A good way to make sure your lines are heading to the right invisible vanishing point is to intersect two points. So if you chose the ground plane line heading left and then drawing the modeling plane. Try creating two 'x's then draw a line through both heading to the left and it should be level.
I really like your videos!! I've always wondered how these kinds of things are drawn, or if it is possible to draw this kind of thing without the help of digital tools... you're just amazing and your videos helped me a lot!!
I will definitely be buying your gumroad tutorial tonight. I am so struggling with perspective. It's like i know all the fundamentals but am having difficulty applying them. Wish me luck
@aliciasam5239 better. I have a better understanding on how to approach organic form and perspective. These technical videos aren't much help. They help to understand how true perspective works but from an artistic standpoint you just need to draw boxes or use guidelines to capture the 3d space and draw and draw a lot to increase your intuition on how things are suppose to look right in perspective. I spent too much time approaching things from a technical perspective but it wasn't for nothing.
@aliciasam5239 they say you have to find your own route. Depends on what level of technicality you want to achieve. I suggest read scott robertson how to draw to learn how contours work in perspective. Dont try to master it just understand it. Then learn how to draw simple forms use simple forms and see how those forms apply to the reference. All in all keep drawing and you'll become more intuitive and make connections as you grow. 2 books I suggest are villpu how to draw manual for organic forms And for perspective, perspective for comic book artist by David chelsea.
@@Gboythunda Thank you so much. I have had this mentality that l need to master perspective which isn’t true. I just want to move on to figures but even understanding takes time
Makhi, I discuss this topic in Perspective part 5 video as well as in my "intro to dynamic sketching" gumroad! There are ways to measure where your 2 vanishing points will be, even if they are not visible on the page
In general, you will need to develop your freehand skills to draw in an expedient and pragmatic fashion. However, stepping back to the basics will help develop your foundation.
my difficulty is doing this traditionally because all the construction lines are overlapping and it really confuses me which line is which, u cant lower their opacity or such unlike on digital.
Great stuff! I'm really starting to fall in love with construction. This method is so much like 3D modeling. I suggest everyone go out and try out some 3d modeling software as well, something like blender is amazingly powerful and completely free!
You need to understand what's wide angle and what's more of a long lens/ foreshortening for this. What he's using is a fairly longer lens so the rate of convergence is less. A wide angle lens is trickier so a longer lens is pretty good for learning the basics.
Want to REALLY get into developing lines...try lofting...mechanical engineering is another pencil treat...my curse to CAD...account being old school...
Do you recommend starting this with pen and paper or diving straight into using software? I only have pen and sketch books so I'm trying this first but start ID school in August so I will try to complete your series and learn a software before starting. Any recommendations?
DuartChannel its all based on Scott Robertson’s book. A lot of people find the book to be really difficult though so it helps explain how to use it and what to focus on. Plus it has some extra demos explained in different ways than Scott would. Think of it like a college perspective class. You would use Scott’s book but you still have an instructor.
Yeah I wonder if I can update the gumroad without like totally deleting it or anything. I found the issue though, it was just a little thing in camtasia, should be good in the future at least
ok it looks like i can do it without changing anything so i'll get the videos reuploaded with the fixed audio, thanks for letting me know. If you bought it just try redownloading it tomorrow and that version should be fixed.
weird.. the gumroad video still only has sound coming from the left speaker (this is after downloading the one that says 'sound coming from one speaker fixed'). not the end of the world, i just turn up the volume a bit to compensate- just thought you'd like to know.
Here` s one question about basic fundamental stuff. How to converge ortographic view square into a side plane of a box. Where to cut it so that appears the same distance as previously drawn orto sqare? Have some perspetive books and the trick with drawing same horizonatl as horizon then splitting that line into five sections seems tedious to do if you plan to make more than one drawing of the same thing. I guess that james and jeremy and the almighty mathias are eyeballing it but what did you do before you could eyeball it (know is about skillz and mileage and yaddy yaddy yadda...) but lets say you want to make the same box in 10 different perspective views on the same page as some mathiaszam studies? (potato)
Thomas Eulogy that Mathias guy is super good I follow him on ig too. He likes cats lifting and drawing apparently. I think we would get along lol. But yeah I just eyeball it usually. I bet Scott Robertson has some perfect construction for it. I just found some of his old gnomon dvds on TH-cam and it made me feel like I’m trash compared to him lol
If I may, then my next question is, on what way did you think when you practice to eyeball it? (Like, this side suppouse to be farther cause this one is closer...I don´t know is my english understandable at this point..maybe I´m to damn analytical about it and drawing lines in general (Im on "week 2" with M.Hampton videos and book, started in November (part for lack of time, fam` n` work)..Followed you from early on on ig (your friend recommended you on his acc, I was like this guy knows stuff and working relentlessly, as a fellow teacher, wish you all the luck with art career! (Was so jelous because how quick you grow. :)
Thomas Eulogy haha Thanks man I think I know what you are talking about. Basically I think if you want to get better at eyeballing or estimating you should both do more constructions and you should draw from life. It’ll just develop over time
Yeah, it is always bout the grind. :) ...thx for answering and I bought your Gumroad, have THE MAN´s book but it is exactly as you said (about the book) in the beginning of the first part, its cool to have someone explaining it to you who went thru it. And James, chipped in for your book too. ;)
jeremy hunter 3:06 How do you determine where they converge if you have no horizon line? Do you just eyeball it? Also what do you do if you have a R or L vp that is practically infinitely away? Will this ever happen? And if so how would the leftward converging lines look? Basically horizontal ?
That 2 year progression was crazy
A good way to make sure your lines are heading to the right invisible vanishing point is to intersect two points. So if you chose the ground plane line heading left and then drawing the modeling plane. Try creating two 'x's then draw a line through both heading to the left and it should be level.
This kinda awkward but can u be more specific
You're the best. Just bought your bundle and I must say it's a really affordable price. Thank you for doing these tutorials.
👏🏻Is good to know the structure of objects. I loved the exercise and reminded me my industrial design class :D
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I really like your videos!!
I've always wondered how these kinds of things are drawn, or if it is possible to draw this kind of thing without the help of digital tools... you're just amazing and your videos helped me a lot!!
Ah, so that's how its done. This makes allot of sense, thanks for sharing this method.
I knew this was the video for me when I saw your first drawing and you added a side noted with "Fucked"... Buddy, this is why I am here.
This is incredible. Thank you so much for the lesson
"...Always think about convergence..."
-Yes, Altman be praised...
Finally vehicle tutorial !!
I will definitely be buying your gumroad tutorial tonight. I am so struggling with perspective. It's like i know all the fundamentals but am having difficulty applying them. Wish me luck
How is it now?
@aliciasam5239 better. I have a better understanding on how to approach organic form and perspective. These technical videos aren't much help. They help to understand how true perspective works but from an artistic standpoint you just need to draw boxes or use guidelines to capture the 3d space and draw and draw a lot to increase your intuition on how things are suppose to look right in perspective. I spent too much time approaching things from a technical perspective but it wasn't for nothing.
@@Gboythunda So do you say l should learn the artistic way then technical? I’m interested in the technical point because l find it fun
@aliciasam5239 they say you have to find your own route. Depends on what level of technicality you want to achieve. I suggest read scott robertson how to draw to learn how contours work in perspective. Dont try to master it just understand it. Then learn how to draw simple forms use simple forms and see how those forms apply to the reference. All in all keep drawing and you'll become more intuitive and make connections as you grow. 2 books I suggest are villpu how to draw manual for organic forms And for perspective, perspective for comic book artist by David chelsea.
@@Gboythunda Thank you so much. I have had this mentality that l need to master perspective which isn’t true. I just want to move on to figures but even understanding takes time
Thanks for going through the trouble to fix the audio. The information is great but it was hard to sit through the whole video before.
what are you using for drawing and what software is being used?
great video!
"Be prepared to fail". I love it
Oh GOD THX!!! THAT WAS AWESOME AND USEFULL!!!
i dont ever knew these techniques thouhg I am gr8 in drawing havent ever learnt it from anyone but knew it well than millions
Don't I need first to make vanishing points? If not, then wouldn't it be mess up?
With enough practice, you will be able to draw a ground plane in perspective with out actually marking the vanishing points.
Moderndayjeremy
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah
Is each modeling plane and the side plane meant to be drawn in perspective as well?
Yes.
*How are you meant to “stay aware of 2 point perspective “ if there are no vanishing points on the paper?*
Makhi, I discuss this topic in Perspective part 5 video as well as in my "intro to dynamic sketching" gumroad! There are ways to measure where your 2 vanishing points will be, even if they are not visible on the page
moderndayjames
Thanks.
Hey James would you still recommend your gumroad tutorials on this? Thanks man, hope you see this and that you're having a great day
sorry out of topic but the background music is so good... is it Progressive? (sounds like Tycho) I wish I had this kind of music while I work.
Already bought it! I searched for a long time before i found somebody explaining how to use Scott Robertson's book. What's ETA on the next lesson?
Ivan Miletic aiming for Thursday :)
Ivan Miletic it’s gonna be focused on tanks and military
Scott Robertson explains step by step how to use his book
If you need someone to explain to you in order to know how to even use a book, isn't that a bit of a criticism towards the book itself? xD
Did you not go through the Scott Robinson videos tutorials that are linked in the book? Scott Robinson explains it thoroughly in many examples
In 'How to draw" There's an early section that talks about using cubes and ellipses to measure in perspective. Is freehand just easier?
In general, you will need to develop your freehand skills to draw in an expedient and pragmatic fashion. However, stepping back to the basics will help develop your foundation.
my difficulty is doing this traditionally because all the construction lines are overlapping and it really confuses me which line is which, u cant lower their opacity or such unlike on digital.
Great stuff! I'm really starting to fall in love with construction. This method is so much like 3D modeling. I suggest everyone go out and try out some 3d modeling software as well, something like blender is amazingly powerful and completely free!
Mr Mountain pssshhh...blender...HAHAHA get on my level kid. Im using zbrush and substance painter mwahahha!!!
thx
it looks like you make the lines parallel instead of of shoing any kind of convergence , should i start by making my lines parallel to eachother?
You need to understand what's wide angle and what's more of a long lens/ foreshortening for this. What he's using is a fairly longer lens so the rate of convergence is less. A wide angle lens is trickier so a longer lens is pretty good for learning the basics.
I've been using the duplication technique all my life, without even thinking bout it ,but I never knew that it is called The Duplication Technique
Want to REALLY get into developing lines...try lofting...mechanical engineering is another pencil treat...my curse to CAD...account being old school...
Nice tutorial, btw what software do you use to sketching?
I think he may just be using photoshop.
You guys reckon it's a bad habit to draw with Shift+pen? or free handing healthier for practicality?
doing this on paper is actual hell.
11:25 these curves look kinda weird
He don't followed the last one correctly. Because the front part is more in perspective than the behind one..
Well presented--learned alot. Gumroad course looks great
should you Tell me witch software you are using in this video?
I think is Corel Painter, but I can be wrong.
Do you recommend starting this with pen and paper or diving straight into using software? I only have pen and sketch books so I'm trying this first but start ID school in August so I will try to complete your series and learn a software before starting. Any recommendations?
purple plane, purple planeeee
Guys the link boxes on the end dont work (at least for me). Could you add link to the Jeremys gumroad to video description? Thanks a lot :)
Jakub Vavřík it’s the first link it says FULL TUTORIAL
DUH... thanks a lot :D
I just fixed the end cards as well, thanks for the comment!
What is the difference between his gumroad and scott robertson's book?
DuartChannel its all based on Scott Robertson’s book. A lot of people find the book to be really difficult though so it helps explain how to use it and what to focus on. Plus it has some extra demos explained in different ways than Scott would. Think of it like a college perspective class. You would use Scott’s book but you still have an instructor.
Song?
Makhi Laveau a lot of the songs are by Lakey Inspired
Amazing amazing amazing
what software is used in this video?
it's just photoshop with a hard round brush
TYSM
Some of your photos of old cars on instagram look oddly familiar. Have you ever been at the Musée Henri Malartre near Lyon?
nah i wish lol I've never been out of the US
When does Part 2 come out?
two weeks!
Guys, why do not you use the Clip Studio?
drawing software doesn't matter, just use what you're comfortable with
FYI, your gumroad videos have the same audio problem (only coming out of the left channel)
Yeah I wonder if I can update the gumroad without like totally deleting it or anything. I found the issue though, it was just a little thing in camtasia, should be good in the future at least
ok it looks like i can do it without changing anything so i'll get the videos reuploaded with the fixed audio, thanks for letting me know. If you bought it just try redownloading it tomorrow and that version should be fixed.
weird.. the gumroad video still only has sound coming from the left speaker (this is after downloading the one that says 'sound coming from one speaker fixed'). not the end of the world, i just turn up the volume a bit to compensate- just thought you'd like to know.
part one is being a real pain lol, the other two are correct now. I'm fixing that one now.
Please post it on google playstore. Cant use credit card or paypal. I can only use goole card.
excellent!
Ah yes, my favorite hobby *PAIN*
I love you !
Bro can you do it in paper cuss I don’t draw on a ipad
cool
Man I really wish my wacom tablet didn't just stop working for no reason at all :(
Drawing a sphere in 2 point perspective is also hard i Guess
oh, how i wish i could brag about how long it took me to draw good perspective but, nah
Modelling plane = cross section. No need to re-brand it.
Plz first finish your marker rendering series.
Quit at 5:30 because of the obnoxious, distracting, pointless background muzak. Why do TH-camrs do this?!?!?!?!
Sh*t gave me a headache 😢
Here` s one question about basic fundamental stuff. How to converge ortographic view square into a side plane of a box. Where to cut it so that appears the same distance as previously drawn orto sqare? Have some perspetive books and the trick with drawing same horizonatl as horizon then splitting that line into five sections seems tedious to do if you plan to make more than one drawing of the same thing. I guess that james and jeremy and the almighty mathias are eyeballing it but what did you do before you could eyeball it (know is about skillz and mileage and yaddy yaddy yadda...) but lets say you want to make the same box in 10 different perspective views on the same page as some mathiaszam studies? (potato)
Thomas Eulogy that Mathias guy is super good I follow him on ig too. He likes cats lifting and drawing apparently. I think we would get along lol. But yeah I just eyeball it usually. I bet Scott Robertson has some perfect construction for it. I just found some of his old gnomon dvds on TH-cam and it made me feel like I’m trash compared to him lol
If I may, then my next question is, on what way did you think when you practice to eyeball it? (Like, this side suppouse to be farther cause this one is closer...I don´t know is my english understandable at this point..maybe I´m to damn analytical about it and drawing lines in general (Im on "week 2" with M.Hampton videos and book, started in November (part for lack of time, fam` n` work)..Followed you from early on on ig (your friend recommended you on his acc, I was like this guy knows stuff and working relentlessly, as a fellow teacher, wish you all the luck with art career! (Was so jelous because how quick you grow. :)
Thomas Eulogy haha Thanks man I think I know what you are talking about. Basically I think if you want to get better at eyeballing or estimating you should both do more constructions and you should draw from life. It’ll just develop over time
Yeah, it is always bout the grind. :) ...thx for answering and I bought your Gumroad, have THE MAN´s book but it is exactly as you said (about the book) in the beginning of the first part, its cool to have someone explaining it to you who went thru it. And James, chipped in for your book too. ;)
jeremy hunter
3:06
How do you determine where they converge if you have no horizon line? Do you just eyeball it?
Also what do you do if you have a R or L vp that is practically infinitely away? Will this ever happen? And if so how would the leftward converging lines look? Basically horizontal ?