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- Episode Companion "The Worst Goodbye"
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Reacting to Sisters Wives Season Seventeen (17) episode 11.
Kody, Meri, Janelle, Christine and Robyn
#SisterWives #Divorce #Christine #KodyBrown
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Here’s why some of us think he’s overreacting: this is months after he learned she’s leaving, and he waited until the other wives were present until he did the whole “knife in the kidneys” thing… he wanted an audience. He wanted to humiliate her. I think Janelle picked up on this. He was pretty calm when it was just him and Christine one on one.
Yes! He wanted Robyn there!
Exactly he did it all because little miss Robin made it such a big deal beforehand
🎯 💯...Agreed !!!
Definition Of A
Hypocrite Is~ Actor !!
A Two Faced (or More !) Person.
Different faces to different people & only He Believes He Is ALLLLLLL Of Them !!
(Esp. the Martyr One)
All I Can Say Is...
W😵💫Wza !!!
Mind Boggling 🤯
& Heartbreaking
To His Loved Ones
I'm sure 💔💔💔
💯 💯
EXACTLY!!
He’s being emotionally abusive by trying to have the other wives gang up on Christine. “Sacrifices I’ve made to love you” is an absolutely cruel thing to say to someone.
That comment made me sick. I wonder what sacrifices did he have to make? She made sacrifices by sharing a husband. He had the best of all worlds.
He did not lose his temperature until Robyn started to emotionally breakdown. That was his trigger, it was a response to Robyn's behavior.
Yeah what sacrifices I'm wondering..
Not if its the truth. It may he brutal but its not abuse.
He didn’t make any sacrifices. It’s laughable
In the early seasons, Christine offered multiple times to watch Robyn’s kids, but Robyn never wanted her to. Instead she would take them to her mom’s and then got a nanny. Christine told Robyn that hurt her but got no response. It’s not like the effort wasn’t put forth it was rejected.
Exactly, I would’ve like to have heard this thrown at Robyn
Then, Robyn mumbled under her breath, 'Are you serious right now?' when Christine dared to bring it up to Kody and the other wives.
A mother can do what she wants with her kids. Why can’t Robyn?
@@andeeq666 She can but then her husband can’t say that Christine never offered.
@@andeeq666 she can she just can’t complain her kids are isolated from the other kids when she chose to keep them apart.
Christine and Kody have had a lot of couples therapy. Kody apparently learned nothing and Christine has become very skillful in expressing herself, regulating her emotions, and grey rocking a narcissist. She really out maneuvered Kody in this break up and kept it classy.
Hardly!
He knows all the “ therapy terms “ and utilizes them frequently🤦🏼♀️
They go low, we go high.
Well said!
The visit seems more like an investigation from Kody's side. Not a social interaction.
Christine tried to help Robyn with her children. She offered multiple times and was really hurt when Robyn decided to hire a nanny instead of asking Christine for help. Robyn was the one who created distance between her children and the other wives.
🎯🎯🎯
Why did Robyn need a Nanny none of the other ladies had one 😡
@@muchancie yes totally. Christine raised her janelle and Mary’s children all without a nanny and she home schooled them as well. Robin got help even before she had Solomon … in fact Christine’s daughter was looking after robin’s children so robin and kody could date … and Christine is not a good sister wife. Christine is that family all the children and janelle love her …
Exactly! Robyn is the most toxic. Grudges, guilt, etc. Her permanent sad puppy dog face drives me crazy. I used to love her! ....
Yep, ROLL THE TAPES!🎯
You’ve missed three points-
Cody cut off intimate relations with Christine, no discussion, he was out of her bed.
Cody has not been spending equitable time between the 4 wives, no matter what excuses Cody uses (e.g., his COVID rules, his askance with the prospect of living in a trailer).
Finally he has said repeatedly over the years-‘you can go. No one is chained here’.
Yes, I agree with you. They missed a lot. I don't think this couple really have watched this family much.
Meri has been out of the rotation for years now and Christine and Janelle have said that when Kody did visit, he would show up in the evening, be on the phone the whole time and then leave first thing in the morning. Now that it is down to Janelle and Robyn, I can guarantee he is not staying with Janelle every other night no matter where she lives.
He only rotates between Janelle and Sobbings. I don't think he spends the night at Janelle’s.
@@sharonmorris4749 he has fought Christine leaving like an abusive maniac. I do t think it’s that simple, never is w/a narc
I found it interesting when they had the awkward good bye party no one seemed to notice that Kody was trying to hug and guilt trip Truely but when Ariel’s tried to hug her good bye he. Shoved Ariel’s out of the way claiming Covid. That was extremely telling.
No it wasn’t! This is 2021, no vaccines for kids yet. They were still wisely social distancing.
Christine was in a cult where women are to “keep sweet” in a submissive role. That she had the strength and good fortune to realize her worth and breakaway was/is remarkable. She is not confrontational but you expect her to take the lead in making her “unwanted” get together a joyous situation. Go back and watch older versions of the show and see that even as a young child, Truely would pull away from Kody and tried to keep a distance from him. Especially the time when she was trying to learn how to ride a bike! 🤦🏻♀️
Omg I remember the bike situation!!
I have the impression those two have not watched all the episodes, kody has been horrendous to Christine, in my book she has been stoic for years and so loving to this angry nasty man. Please go back and watch more before you pass a jugement!!!! He was always so dismissive of her. He never had respect for her , .there is a good raison why we all are so happy for Christine now that she has find happlness.
Alison says she is a long time show fan, which may be why what she (quietly) says turns out more often to be correct than her husband's predictions and assessments.
Kody has completely ignored the impact that HIS decision to court a 4th wife WHILE Christina was pregnant, working & had 5 other children as well as ongoing caretaking of the other kids. He has discounted her deep feelings of hurt at kissing Robyn before their wedding, secretly helping pick out the wedding dress & having to call her husband to tell him she was in labor while he was visiting his girlfriend. It was more Robyn's job to become Christina's sister wife & integrate into the family.
TESTIFY!
Preach.
It cannot be overstated enough how alone Kody made Christine feel when she was about to go into labor. He was completely smitten with Robin, her children & their new "situation." I sort of liked his personality at the time, but remember thinking OMG, how horrible was he when Truly was born?
That part. Robyn should have never agreed to date him while his wife was pregnant. Meri, sought Robyn out to hurt Christine, because she despised her for being fertile.
***It was blatant disrespect. I’m glad Christine decided to no longer accept crumbs from Kody. When has Robyn reached out to Christine… Robyn knows she’s the favorite and enjoys monogamy within a polygamous marriage.
How dare Robyn forget why she left her husband…. No compassion.
Meri is gone. How dare Robyn ask Meri, to hold on with her. Meri isn’t even receiving crumbs. It’s pathetic that Robyn expects these women to accept what she wouldn’t accept in her own very short marriage.
Sister Wives in this context only exist in her mind
Also, if you remember Kody was sneaking around seeing Robyn and kissing her while Truly had gotten extremely sick and he was completely obvious of it. Christine had to rush her to the hospital when she got home it’s was ridiculous and scary!
"He's suffered a narcissist injury." That's the heart of it.
This doesn’t mean he is clinically one. This mean he has some action and tendencies of one.
Narcissist is the most popular label right now.
Kody’s heart isn’t hurt, his pride is!
Kody allowed Robyn's kids to hug Mykelti when she was visiting but didn't allow Robyn's kids to hug Truely goodbye. That was cruel !
She complains about being “voted off the Brown family island”, but every chance she gets she actually separates herself and her children from the rest of the family. She DID make the Covid rules, she decided to not get together for the Holidays. Even back to the beginning she didn’t let her children play with the others because she thought they were too rough. They didn’t treat her special babies like she wanted, so she kept them away. She said she wasn’t up for a reunion, she said she didn’t want her and Kody to get together with the rest of the family until they had “hashed out” their drama. Which isn’t going to happen- they’re never going to agree. She took herself and her kids out of the Secret Santa gift swap. All she does is drive wedges, then complains about not being included.
@thanksbutnothanks978 I don't see people saying this enough. She thought her and her kids should be treated like they are above the others.
And, it didn't take Kody long to start agreeing with her.
Exactly. I had a stepmother like that. She treated her son with such favortism and isolated him from the four of us (even punishing us for things he was always doing) and then wondered why we aren't close. And by the way, he is STILL living with his mother in the basement of the family home and he is 61 years old. @@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis
I know, they pick and choose when to follow their own Covid rules, if they don't like you, stay 6 feet away, if they like you, the rules are tossed out the window.
It wasn’t “Covid” in his back yard when Robyn’s son came running up to makelti and hugged her. But it was too Covid to allow Ari to hug her supposed sister goodbye. It’s control on kody’s end. Pure and simple. Also, your wife’s face watching Robyn speak is literally me. It was like her face said when my brain was thinking lol.
And why in the heck if we’re so “worried about Covid “ why let Mykelti and her husband get close to the kids “at their house?” Hypocrites!!!
Also Kody hugged Truley. Then went back to Robyn and her Kids. So if Truley had anything he transfered it. So let the kids tell truly bye.
An Robin's kids had already been back in school if you remember last week. It's sheer ugliness on Kody's part to prevent siblings from being together.
@@gcargiulo6047 Your right! I missed that & now I’m thinking about Robin holding that baby !
@@lbarmstrong1 your right, good catch !
Gabriel has grown up to be such a honest, empathetic, decent human being despite the male role model he has had. What a great kid ❤️
I feel awful for Gabriel he seems to be struggling so much with the reorganization of his family.
His male role model is his older brother Logan.
@@tracim3080 0⁰(!
Kody is intimidated by his adult children because they are all so much better than him.
Love Garrison and Gabe
The aha moment of Cody saying “THAT! THAT’s why I’m mad at you!” The “aha” reading to me of “yes! I found something to shift and pin blame about!!”
Yup
I'm just amazed that Christine is as focused and strong in her message ... AND calm and clear headed about things.
Don’t be too amazed. She’s marrying someone from the same religion.
The WHOLE COUNTRY KNEW CHRISTINE was unhappy for over a decade...including Kody from counseling with her. His false shock and surprise is ridiculous. Christine doesn't trash talk...she's just been trying to figure out what to do and had to bounce it off someone. Kody is trash talking CHRISTINE to the whole country.
You can't actually take what narcs say seriously..they just do or say ANYTHING to avoid accountability.
Exactly. He says that Christine trash talks. That was not Christine trash talking that was Christine expressing her feelings and emotions.
Absolutely spot on !!
Oh, please! Learn to tell the difference between what might be real versus drama for the cameras. Don’t assume what you see is actually the real story. It’s TV!
Exactly
Kody was not the last to know BUT he was the last to notice. Christine had to club him over the head with moving him out of her bedroom before he noticed.
Good point,I couldn’t agree more
Yes!!! This!! Kody was the last to notice!! At the end of the day Kody doesn't care about Christine's feelings and he hasn't for years. Too bad, so sad that she's in a loveless marriage, while he gets all the love he needs from elsewhere, and his attitude is that Christine just has to deal with it because that's what she signed up for with plural marriage. After years of being told that her feelings don't matter (because she chose plural marriage) she realized plural marriage was not for her. And Kody is all butt hurt that she wouldn't stay and endure her miserable life. It's basically the equivalent of having a cheating spouse who is getting and giving all his love and attention to another, but you are required to stay and watch, for a lifetime!
When Kody married Robyn he directed the majority of his love and attention into their marriage and REQUIRED that all his other wives follow suite and direct their love and attention into Robyn as well. If they spoke up and said they were wives as well and deserved his love and attention as well, then Kody labeled them as being bad sister wives. Christine has been expressing to Kody for YEARS that she needed to be acknowledged as important in his life as well, but he didn't care because he only cared how Robyn was feeling about everything. Kody pushed Christine away and now is upset because instead of just being pushed out to the periphery, she's choosing to leave altogether. He wanted her to stay on the periphery and continue to give love and support to Robyn, his favorite wife.
Yes ~ Kody Was Just
To Quick To Dismiss
EVERYONE ELSES Feelings Way Tooo
Quickly As NOT
Important To Him
(If ANYONE Was Not In Agreement With Him In Any Way) ...
Except For His Or
Robyn's Feelings
It Seems. So Sad When There Is Absolutely No Compassion For Anyone Else But Yourself. HE is Absolutely Why His Family Is Suffering So. I Hope He Can See It Soon, Before He Continues To Break More Hearts.❤️🩹
Christine Shows Much
Compassion, Restraint, & Honesty ~ I think That Says Alot About Her Character 💝
He's pretending for money, he's a gaslighter. Sobin is his wife.
Beautifully apt. The last to notice.
I like the part where sobin tells Christine about Chritines life before she was even there
I can’t stand how she does that. When Christine tells her that she was miserable back in Las Vegas, Robyn goes “That’s a lie! I remember it differently…” Like okay Robyn, go ahead and tell Christine how her relationship is and how she felt about it. Ignorant…
Robyn knows nothing...only what koty told her...not supposed to have happened
Janelle is the jewel in the family crown 💎
Sad thing is Merri doesn't realize that she's no longer a sister wife based on what she said about Christine. Kody doesn't consider himself married to Merri anymore.
I think that merri hasn’t left because she wants her piece of the pie! She has $$ invested
She was out of state hours away and this last minute bye bye was planned a few hours before. She should have left it at I was in Utah. She didn’t want to see Truely? Maybe they stopped on their drive and said hi? It’s on the way potentially.
Plus, she actually divorced him, so yes, Meri you haven't been a sister wife for years.
That is the thing that gets me is how clueless Merri is
I'm not a Meri fan, but I do have some sympathy. She reminds me of an abandoned dog who waits faithfully on the porch, waiting for his owner to come back.
I was hoping when she bought the B&B, that Meri would start a life independent of Kody. She almost made it.
That was painful. I find it odd that now Robin is worried about her kids having a relationship with Truly when for over a year they couldn't be around her because of their ignorant stance on covid. I remember how she told her kids that Christine and her kids "choose" to go visit other family members rather than be in a social distance extravaganza with them for Thanksgiving. In this sister marriage, Robin has always appeared completely disingenuous.
The only time kody was left alone with the kids truly ended up in kidney failure.
That episode is one of the worst episodes ever. I remember poor Ayspen feeling guilty like it was her fault. And Kody saying to Christine on the phone that truly had a touch of the flu. Dude the flu kills people and look truly did almost died. The kids have trauma from all of that. That episode lives rent free in my head all these years later.
Truely noticed the tension between her parents for her whole life subconciously. I think it's logical that she chooses to stay close with her mom because she simply feels safer being with her.
Christine didn't want one house because she didn't want to see functioning marriages when she and Kody were in such a bad place.
nobody wants to live with Meri again, especially Janelle and Christine's children. The desire for separate houses was to protect the children from Meri.
She was also treated as the basement wife when they did live together and she didnt want that again.
💯 exactly what she said
Robin is annoying lol and phony af your wife is picking up on what everyone else is
How do you have a relationship with someone who’s having a functional relationship with the person you were in love with? That doesn’t work
Your wife is right. They are all miserable. They are all happier when they are away from each other.
Absence makes the heart grow fonder? Familiarity breeds contempt?
Man i think Mykelti is remaining close to Robyn to keep getting paid to be on the show - there’s no way I could remain close to Robyn knowing how she treated my mom
Mykelti was a live in nanny for Robyn’s kids when she was 13 yrs old so she did have a relationship with Robyn. As far as I have heard the kids don’t get paid
Perhaps you are wrong about how she was treated!
@@andeeq666 I only know what was witnessed on tv and in my opinion Robyn was awful to Christine- she flat out called Christine a liar- i don’t know how Christine stayed calm in that moment - but who knows - maybe it was all fake and for the cameras
Your wife is so honest…”David we can’t even move furniture together” 🤣🤣🤣 I love your channel
Like all married people ..Kody such an ass .just can't stand him ever ...
Christine IS THE MAMA, their domestic Goddess!!! She is where kids want to be. She is Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc.
Interesting take, my adult kids do the same.
A couple of years ago, me and my husband decided to run away together for Xmas and afterwards my adult kids whined that Xmas wasn’t the same. They didn’t like it. I loved it. No holiday making pressure.
Christine is the mama love ❤
I find it hilarious when he gets up to yell at Christine he has to move so that he could be in view of the camera
I noticed that too
An actor trick is to turn toward the camera (the audience) not toward Christine, the one he is talking to.
In my opinion, the relationship “worked” with Janelle, Christine and Meri because Kody was focused on his calling to plural marriage and wasn’t particularly romantically invested. It was about kids and a heavenly reward. There was a balance. The moms were all of an age, life stage and all had kids similar in age. They had regular common issues, but really Kody treated them largely the same. When he met Robyn, he discovered romantic love. Monogamous love. His preference, his focus naturally was no longer fair. I think this was unexpected. His frame work is polygamy, but his feelings are not. So he champions Robyn and her children. Even going so far as to call Robyn’s kids “ours” and “mine” but refer his children by Janelle and Christine as “their’s”. ( at least in the way the show is edited)
He had romantic love with Meri. Then, they had trouble conceiving and decided to find a plural wife, Janelle. That made things worse. Then, Christine was chosen to help smooth out Meri’s and Janelle’s sister-wife relationship. I don’t think Christine and Kody ever got along well or liked each other much, theirs was simply to have children, not a real marriage relationship. Meri brought Robyn in to have someone on her side. Two against two. Now, Children are grown, no one needs to stay except Robyn who has the two littlest to raise.
Even though the first three wives have left Crappie is still in a loving plural marriage, there is crappie, sobyn and crappie.
❤❤
I love Gabe’s look towards his mom, what a sweet son
I was the second wife out of four from the same group. My husband at the time after 10 years of marriage gave me the option to leave no questions asked or keep trying to work on the relationship. I chose to try. 3 years later when everything finally fell apart anyway, he was mad at me for making the decision to leave. What ever happened to no questions asked? I think he was upset because it was no longer his choice to end the relationship it had become my choice, and he felt out of control. Watching this definitely looks way to familiar.
So happy for you 🎉🎉that you’re done with that relationship! Cody is supposed to be there for all his wives equally and he is not!
@@elmavite1133 In the AUB the men are told that they are in charge of their family. That he is the head and suppose to make the final decision. It is also normal for men to all but abandon their wives that are to old to have children. I think that Kody expected it to stay ok no matter how he treated his wives, because to him the way he treated her was normal that is the example he sees.
I’m glad you were able to do what was best for you. I’m sorry it went poorly though.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm glad you did what was right for you 🖤
The financial abuse is what gets me. Some dumpster dive for food for the family but on the day that father comes home, he gets thanksgiving meal. I know someone that left with 7 children, and then her mother left a couple years later. When you stop bringing spirit babies down to earth, you get put out to pasture. I’m glad you also got out and may life alone be ever superior to life inside. You deserve a good life.
Kody makes me laugh when he says he never saw the "divorce" coming, yet any viewer to the show can remember how often Kody & Christine went to marriage counseling including taking their therapist along with them when they went on vacation! 🤯 Remember the rocks on the beach episode?
How could he not see it coming when the idiot doesn't sleep with Christine anyway?? He treats his first 3 wives as nuns then wonders why Christine cleared off??
Exactly!!!!!!
That episode pissed me off so bad. 🤬😤
He refused to focus on his relationship with Christine.
ditto - He made his affection conditional on her putting the family first and I thought right then that there was no way I would stay. Like why would I stay to be a maid and daycare for everyone's kids if you don't actually LOVE me too. the whole premise is that he is supposed to love each of them and they all learn to overcome the jealousy to raise their family. She's asking for ANY love and he was giving her none then.
Yes I remember that!
Cory wasn't the last to know that Christine was unhappy. They have had so many conversations about their relationship not working, but now Kody is trying to make it seem like it's a huge shock!!! The kids have seen their unhappiness for the last 15 years. Them staying together for so long was also unfair to the children.
Christine stayed for the children and family.
Its the WORST kind of emotional abuse. Telling another person what they think, what their intentions are, what they feel. Its horrible. It makes a person doubt their own thoughts. "Hes telling me I never even tried, I thought I had." It can literally make a person insane. Its gaslighting at its worse.
The reason Janelle is shocked at his anger is because she knew he didn’t care about Christine. He hasn’t put in any effort with her and the kids. So she’s wondering what he’s so upset about.
He is upset of the loss of money he steals from his wives. It is a loss for him. He needs to keep queen Robin and himself in their lifestyle they have become accustom to.
So, explain this. Robins kids can hug and sit with tony and mykelti who live away in another state but they can’t hug truely goodbye? They have to stand 10 feet away and stare at Christine, Janelle, and their kids? It’s completely ridiculous and so sad. If Robin had welcomed Truely into her life during covid, thing might be different today. It’s heartbreaking for truely
Christine and Robyn live on the SAME STREET. THEY RIDE THE SAME BUS. SOLOMON AND TRULY ARE SAME AGE, SAME ĢRADE. YET THE KIDS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO HUG HER BYE.
Not to mention the kids are back to in person school.
I know it was suppose to be a drama and not a comedy act, but the knife in the kidney seen makes me laugh everytime! 🤣 😂 Especially after how in the past he has admitted he didn't even now if he ever loved Christine. The way he has treated Meri is awful, so she must be kind of a slow learner?? I love how he thinks Christine is horrible for giving up on something that's not even there between them anymore, but he gave up on Meri, but that's totalling fine?!? What a narcissistic jerk!
It was funny. It was all for the cameras.
Really, wasn’t funny.
The reason why everyone is surprised at his reaction is because in the beginning of the series from the very first episode Kody has said that all his wives were there because they wanted to be and that if at any time they wanted to leave they were always welcome to. You also have to remember Janelle had left for a year earlier on in her marriage to Kody, the fact that even Janelle was surprised at his reaction tells us what’s going on is something different for Kody.
The reason we feel he emotionally abusive to Christine is because for months, even years he has never come to Christine to confront the rumors he was hearing about her wanting to leave. He put on this huge performance once he got an audience. He withholds affection in order to modify her behavior. He said it quite plainly that he did not want to have a relationship with her because she wasn’t in good relationship with the other wives. His anger isn’t one of love lost but of a bruised ego. Christine is the scapegoat in this dysfunctional family. Her leaving disrupts that for everyone.
With all the new information we are learning this season I can’t blame Christine for having friction with Robin. During that first season Christine was taking care of both her children and Janelles during the day and working nights. She asked Kody for support with the kids at night when she was working but he refused so the responsibility fell to her oldest kids. Then when Kody starts dating Robin Christine’s oldest daughter is sent to provide child care to her 3 kids and Kody sees her every 4th night prior to them even being married. Robin got preferential treatment from the very start and a Christine could even get child care for the children he fathered.
I think saying Christine treated anyone like “dirt” is out of line. He’s just grasping at straws and throwing shit to the wall to see if it sticks
Did you see that smile he gave Robin? Kody was the first to know when he was interested in Robin. Christine didn't know about Robyn when she was very pregnant with Truly. Christine found out they were getting married before Christine and Janelle even met Robin. Kody was very sneaky about his new love interest, Robyn. Rules for thee but not for me. Kody leaving the hospital while Christine is getting ready to have Truly. Making out with Robyn while the baby is crowning after Christine said to hurry because the baby was being born any minute. But no Kody wanted to make out with Robyn. They are both disgusting.
I remember that too, when Christine was literally in labor.
I agree this show makes me sick this is the last time I watch it
Also the fact that when she asked for help from him to put her kids to bed because she had to prooduce an income while pregnant with Truly, after shed taken care of the kids the entire day. Him then claiming that she was asking for too much and then her kid had to be in charge of that. No he never loved her.
I LOVE you know Truely’s emotional gauge when Kody doesn’t!!
You try being married to a narcissist, banging your head against that wall for years - trying to understand what the hell is going on. You finally throw in the towel, start to learn and understand what happened, ONLY to watch your children grow and complain as they begin banging their head against that same wall. A good mother will gently guide their growing kids to begin to understand that parent's mental state, encouraging them to get counseling so they aren't wasting their time expecting a certain type of relationship from someone who isn't capable of any depth or empathy.
Cody wanted truly to cry so he could say to Christine see what you are doing to our daughter.
Kody also HATES for anyone (especially his wives or children) to disagree with him and he always labels it “attacking” or “antagonizing” him. It’s “cooperative” if everyone listens to his way and says “ok!”
More narcissistic traits. A phrase that IS typically overused but cannot be overused with Kody.
Dear Kody, if divorce isn’t something you want, you have to act that way every day of your actual marriage.
He says Janelle is pushing him away, just because she’s supporting Christine. He literally can’t take anyone disagreeing with him or not standing with him when he’s antagonistic toward others. You’re spot on. Meri knows it and that’s why she chose to align with Robyn. She thinks it’ll win Grody’s favor back.
His NARCISSISTIC traits have been exhastrubated by their Mormon cult too. The women are literally told to "Keep Sweet" "The MAN makes all choices" "Women are NOT allowed to disagree with her husband". According to the book of Mormon:
1) The HUSBAND decides the fate of the wife & her kids souls. He can reject them and have them "Destroyed" eviscerated literally or have them ASSIGNED to a New Polygamist family to be that husband's concubine for eternity.
2) Women think the more they suffer in Polygamy the more they are rewarded in Heaven.
3) Kody is the ENTIRE family's Priest. Just imagine DISAGREEING with the person who controls with your eternal fate!
I came to say this! it's his way or the highway, shut up and agree with him or you're against him. That's how much of a power trip he's on
He punishes his wives and children for criticizing him by withdrawing attention.
"The sacrafices I've made to love you." That comment surely cut Christine to the core.
For me, if my husband said that he was never attracted to me, and that he had to make an effort to love me but didn’t want me anymore because of my “behavior”- that would be it. Over, done. No amount of therapy can ever put that genie back in the bottle. The worst thing that you can do to your wife is make her feel unattractive and unwanted or unloved, and he did all that BUT THEN EXPECTED HER TO STAY. How dare you leave, you don’t have my permission!! I want you to stay in your corner and be content in this loveless, sexless marriage. Watch while I make it work with my other wives.
It’s so cruel. Then he had the audacity to be shocked and hurt when she left!!!
These kinds of things are often said during break-ups and divorces, unfortunately.
@@andeeq666 But he was saying it while they were still married. He said it years ago on a show and then again in a book, while they were still together and hadn’t spoken of breaking up. That’s unacceptable.
Does Mary remember she was the first one to try and get out? Remember the CATFISH was reason she didn't leave 🤫
The fact no one could hug each other when they left was heartbreaking. It absolutely did not matter if it was COVID. This was goodbye. Kody had gone to a wedding and a gun show by this point. COVID no longer matters. That was a jerk move.
Meri, just in case you didn't realize, you are no longer a sister wife!!! She needs to get real.
It really proves how cold hearted both kooty and sobyn are. And sobyns 2 ADULT daughters are definitely their mothers daughters
It was shameful he maintained his stupid rules for his family after going to a wedding. His covid rules were about control not about the health of his family.
I love how natural Janelle and Christine are with each other - honesty and friendship build over years of ups and downs. Love seeing the interaction and check-in at the beginning of the show. So refreshing to see this - after so much guarding interactions throughout this season and before. Loving the watch with us, thanks!
It’s completely normal for Christine to have vented her feelings over time. What the heck was she supposed to do. I believe anyone in that situation would have done the same thing.
Not to her children!
I feel like that they might have had more fights if he showed up more. He used the covid excuse as a reason to stay away. And don't forget "The sacrifices I made to love you!" What the hell does that mean?"
They are having a Co-Vid moment yet Ari & Solmon are back in school & Kody travels out of state for weddings with lots of strangers there, without any social distancing. All approved per Kody's logic 🤯
Wow🤡
Robin’s logic. I know a few mothers with that same covid stance.
Completely stupid. Either you are distancing or you are not. Funny how the Cody/Robyn rules only apply when it suits them.
Does anyone remember that the first three wives seemed at peace in los Vegas when Robyn pushed to move to Flagstaff for Robyn’s oldest to go to college? High school kids who were successfully navigating life were yanked from their lives? It’s years later and jannelle doesn’t have a house yet?
Kody doesn’t seem to want to put any effort into relationships other than Robyn and her kids. Very sad
Don't forget Kody took Christine to Flagstaff for a bday or anniversary trip n openly admitted it was just to get her to like it b4 telling her he wanted to move there. It wasn't a nice thing to do just for the two of them. He had ulterior motives the whole time n it was probably Robyn's idea.
Kody doesn't put ANYTHING into these relationships. He isn't even on their birth certificates... but he's on Robyn's children's certificate!!
I love these "watching it with us episodes" and I especially like it now that you've added your wife. Your banter with each other is so cute. Please keep doing them.
Agree!! Love these. It’s a very interesting look into the human condition.
POP PSYCH is about as smart as a box. Just another useless “therapist.” He simply wants to make a few pennies off of judging and criticizing Kody and his family on You Tube. And he calls Kody a narcissist! Ha! He should look in the mirror, he’ll see another narcissist. His wife isn’t too bad with her speak.
I love that you noticed something about your wife and asked her "what" and she said, "I'm holding something back." That was a great example of how to stay connected to your spouse. Gotta get those invisible walls out of the way. Thanks for not cutting it out
Kody didn't allow anyone but himself to hug Truley but earlier in the day everyone was holding Mykelti's baby, and a few weeks earlier he went to a wedding without a mask.
Truly couldn't get away from kooty fast enough. It's so obvious he's never been affectionate with her
@@lynnkalles2055 Yeah, what child doesn't care about her parents getting divorced and doesn't notice that they're separated? He really wasn't around her entire life. He was across the culdisac with Robyn.
@@MoralGovernment Not all the time. You watch more seasons. Kody spent plenty a fair share of time with Christine.
@@andeeq666 Christine had been begging for more time for years. I remember a scene where she agreed to turn her garage into a wrestling gym for Kody and the boys and she begged for more grocery money and more time with him.
Well you know how covid works It doesn't affect people at parties or if they're dancing or if they're sitting down eating etc etc.
I think that shouting at Christine in front of other people is abusive, also, he had just called her a bad sister wife to Robyn. no excuses for him to behave like this. He has known for years that she wanted to leave, it's not like it is a surprise. Janelle is living in cloud cuckoo land, if she thinks the houses will ever be built, Kody will sell the land as he was told it was worth more. Kody neglected Truley when she was a toddler and she nearly died, he tantalized her when she didn't want to ride her bike, and he has hardly bothered with her during Covid, so it is no big loss for her when they move.
Really enjoying this series. Thank you to your wife for joining. It was nice to have her insight as well. 🥰
Omg what he did to Truly was brutal. He put her in a place in front of everyone where no matter what she answered to his questions she would have to pick one parent over the other, if she said she's not happy about leaving she picks her dad. If she is happy about leaving she picks her mom. What a horrible thing to do to a child. And it was pretty telling when he hugged her and he said three times "love you" and she didn't answer back. Tells how distant he has been.
Christine also put her kids in the position of picking one over the other.
@@andeeq666 Oh I missed that episode... Can you tell what happened that time?
Oh YES, he WAS emotionally abusive!! When he said the sacrifices he made to love her, that was horrible!!!
Wasted!!! Omg, the way he clearly made sure to emphasise that last word, my god! HOW is that anything BUT degrading to Christine, and the marriage/relationship they've had?! Wasted? Really, Kody? Your 6 kids with her, her raising the vast majority of your kids, all that was a waste?!
It's not even the fact he's yelling that make it abusive, it's the words he's yelling, I really don't understand that opinion here, that he's not being abusive cuz it's understandable for him to be upset? Like, Christine isn't also upset, but choosing not to yell a bunch of harsh, hurtful things?!
If he knew more of the history of their relationship he'd have to see it that way. If he'd read the book or something
Cody didn’t break and scream until he felt that Christine had disrespected Robin. Poor Merri wasn’t ever thought about.
Meri was mentioned by Kodi when he insulted her by saying Christine was invited to marry him because he couldn’t handle the first two wives.
Meri is a B
Truly did spend the night away from her. There's an episode where they are going to help Christine's mom move and Truly stays at Janelle's house for like 2 days. I think she means that Truly has never been away from her in regards to going with Kody.
GOSH you're so right, it should have been about Truly going off on a new adventure, reassuring her that she always had a place with them to visit etc. And one of you said about cupcakes which I agree with. Heck even Kody said he thought there would be a party (like get pizza or something everyone, at least pretend you're a normal family lol). Every scene of this season just proves to me more and more that Christine made the right decision, even the taking Truly away from her "father." Kody acted like he was a 14 year old brother to Truly in that scene, his demeanor and basic, stupid questions (though a lot of 14 year olds would do even better I'm sure!).
The producers want drama, not parties.
When it comes to the trailer, I think Jenelle did it to call his bluff. She was like, ok...everything is about building on coyote pass so lets fricken do it then...and he didnt. It was so that she could say, hey im here...this is on u now. And to this day, there is still nothing built there.
Such a good point
the fact that Truely never spent a night away from Christine in 11 years tells you what Christine's date nights with Kody were like!
Hahahaha
actually, the one time Christine left Truely in Kody's care, the child literally almost died. She almost died..I bet Truely has PTSD from being with Kody
@@abeal49 omg I didn’t see that episode, what happened?
@@kyraGTV I want to know too!
@@kyraGTV I forget if all the wives went out of town but Kody was left with the children and Truely got sick, maybe the flu, dehydrated, Kody failed to notice she had a fever and wasn't eating or drinking, I think maybe one of the other kids noted her lethargy, and by the time Christine got home the child was in renal failure, near death, actually, and had a protracted hospitalization which Christine had to pay for because they don't have health insurance. That might have been when the viewers found out that these people living in mansions on a cul de sac in Las Vegas didn't have health insurance. The whole thing was shocking
One thing not discussed here that makes it feel right that Christine talked this through with Mykelti is that Mykelti and Tony's relationship is a big part of what made Christine see how messed up her own relationship was. She's said in interviews that seeing how simple their relationship was and how they support each other was a real wake-up call and that she talked to Mykelti about that to process what she was seeing. Mykelti talked about what her marriage was like and Christine saw a lot of hard truths in her marriage through that discussion.
Arielle is the most similar to KODY, very energetic, not able to read others’ emotions easily, very much staying in the moment, but not much forethought. The fact that she can have a pacifier says she’s similar to Aurora with nervousness, and she gets her way.
He always says he never loved Christine yet in his next breath he says he's heartbroken. 🤔 What Kody will miss is Christine's "family money" donations.
Also I agree that parents taking children out of state is an issue in many cases but he barely saw Truley over the last year. Part of the reason Christine said she wanted to leave was so Truley wouldn’t see how much time her father didn’t spend with her vs his other kids. Also Kody almost killed Truley and I don’t think Christine trusts him with her.
Additionally, they weren't actually legally married and the last thing Kody wants to do is get into any situation where there are lawyers, judges, or the state involved in the situation. He may have rights as her father, but those come with responsibilities (read $$$) that he has very little interest in.
He is simply her dad fathering her while married to another, divorcing that wife and marrying a completely different woman. He is paying not attention to her in state. The goodbye where a day before Robyn and Sol and Ari could touch Truely’s sister and niece outside, Robyn breathing into that baby’s mouth but they could not touch her and she could not touch them, just Kody is sick thank goodness she is moving. Janelle and her lot and Christine and her lot touching. But Robyn’s no. And no official word on David is telling. Just mention. The absence makes it a big deal. Were Kody and Robyn and their kids testing weekly so Truely could come over or was she subjected the stick in the nose? Tuscon went back to school august 9th. Ysabel already gone. Some AZ districts even earlier. Clearly Ari and Sol beck to school by now. Terrible people and toxic and clearly treating anyone not in that house or perceived on their side as typhoid Mary. I want him in prison. I feel lied to all these years.
Kody hasn’t recognized Truly his child legally. What was that all about?And NOW he wants some rights.
@@siirikissa5395 exactly that. If he wanted to exert rights and responsibilities, maybe he should be on her birth certificate. Or pay child support.
@@msdaphne and it is said
He isn't on the birthday certificate.
For welfare. For bankruptcy. For accountability.
Also, I’d like know how much time and effort Kody put in to seeing Truly ..
When my husband and I got divorced, we were angry, sad and hurt for a while, but we took equal responsibility and kept it friendly. Now 11 years later, we are still good friends, our kid is happy and I have a good relationship with his new wife. That is how adults act.
Kody does not understand that, all he has is blaming and shaming. All because he feels that it is "demeaning" to be left by the wife he never loved or even liked.
Oh yeah, and I got rid of our "marital" bed for sure, just unnecessary emotional baggage.
I love how at the goodbye he acts like no one can hug because of covid yet the day before he had Mykelti over, touched their baby and Sal and Ari hugged them, plus the kids go to school with other kids all day.
That adds to the custody things too, he hasn't been a part of Truly's life for 2 years. He doesn't have much contact with her when she's right there. Plus they don't want it in the court system, he would have to pay and he has a lot more to lose.
NEVER EVER stop making these videos with your wife! this perspective and banter was interesting and epic. Thank you!!
On an episode kody told Christine she can't move because he wants 50 -50 custody and Christine laughed and said Kody barely spends 1 month out of a year with her lol..I bet Truly loves a great dad live david
I have a bit of a theory about mykelti 😅 I wonder if she keeps those relationships with Robyn and kids close bc of her dad. She knows her mom will always love her no matter what. It’s her dad she has a to earn attention and love from and this is the way is to be “loyal” to him and Robyn.
Kody is cruel. No woman with any self-respect would tolerate him. His reaction is phony. He has spent several episodes saying he didn’t love her, wasn’t attracted to her & didn’t particularly want to have a relationship with her. He said all that to her & she was still begging him to reconsider. She finally takes him at his word, decides to leave & now HE’S broken-hearted? I have yet to see him beg Janelle for a better relationship. In fact, he’s said he needs to re-establish patriarchal dominance, bought his new wife a large, expensive house with Janelle’s money & basically ignores Janelle’s need to have a home of her own. He will miss the other women’s financial contributions; he could care less about the women & the kids. They are a means to an end. Once Robyn becomes his sole responsibility she won’t seem so attractive anymore either. Wait till he tells her she’s got to earn her keep.
Reminder: It’s TV!! Things get overdramatized for viewership.
Kody has been totally dismissive of Christine coming to him to basically BEG for a better relationship for YEARS. Then wanted to act surprised and infuriated that she would leave. That’s why it’s abusive, bc he suddenly wanted to act like he cared in front of his crowd of wives, and he genuinely expected her to just stay while he ignored her, and anything else is an affront to him.
It’s abusive and narcissistic bc his emotions sprung from his loss of control over someone, not out of sadness or desperation or even frustration over a major loss of an actual relationship.
His neighbors are unhappy bc he took two YEARS to install some septic thing that had to be done, and now apparently he has left the only road into the neighborhood a mess. He can’t be counted on to make major decisions without taking TOO LONG, his wives can’t wait on him he’s too busy with Robyn.
This. Seems so obvious to me.
I LOVE this new format! You two remind me of "People 's Couch" and I love seeing reactionary videos with more than just one person (especially great to watch along with y'all) 😁👍🏼
I love your commentary remarks, both of you. You call out Kody's and Robin's BS in an intelligent and truthful manner! So enjoyable.
Could Robyn be so unhinged because for the first time in her marriage to Kody he’s fixated on a relationship that isn’t her relationship? Everyone keeps saying they hope he takes another wife so we can see Robyn in meltdown mode but I think we’re seeing it and it’s over Christine.
I hope he doesn't take any more wives, hasn't he ruined enough people already.!
I feel like part of Robin's constant crying and emotional instability has to do with her obviously untreated thyroid condition. Before I was properly diagnosed in medicated I was an emotional wreck 80% of the time.
Christine was fairly “flat” and unresponsive to Kody and the others. They really can’t hurt her anymore. I think it’s possible that Cody’s rage was him trying to force a response and a connection with Christine.
Thank you for doing this! I always watch this show and have such strong feelings and wonder what a professional would say on it. This is a great idea for videos!
I love your videos! You tell it like it is, it’s honest and open. Cant wait for next weeks!
My frustration with this situation is when Kody said that Christine never tried to be friends with Robyn.I don’t think that is true from what I’ve seen. Also, later, when Robyn in her tell all said that Christine said that she didn’t want to have a relationship with her wasn’t exactly what Christine said - she said that she needed space or time, I can’t remember which one; but, it wasn’t a flat out no!
Sobbin always has to be the victim.
Why would she cultivate friendships with women who she never had a friendship with or fell out of friendship. By the woman who hogged the husband. Kody and Robyn sat there with Robyn’s kids all over one of Christine’s daughter and her grand baby but Christine’s youngest daughter could not be touched by anyone in Robyn’s family just Kody. I’m sure Janelle and her kids. THIS is why thank goodness she is leaving the state for Truely to be around sister and grandparents and aunt and uncles who will hug her. And not have to watch dad being dad to Robyn’s but not her without proving she is negative. Do they weekly take a test? I doubt it. It is rude to scream into a kitchen window. The door won’t give him COVID.
@@kristinesharp6286 yes, thank you. Someone needed to point out just how rude and abrasive it was when he screamed in the kitchen window. If he didn't want to touch the door, a simple ,"we're here", group text would have sufficed . I think he knew it would be jarring to Christine, and did it out of pettiness.
@@kristinesharp6286 Exactly!!! What will Truely think when she watches this episode and sees Sol and Ari hugging all over Mykelti and the baby, but they won't let Truely get close enough?? Truely was TRYING to interact with Sol and Ari by throwing flowers at them, and they kept pushing her back and telling her not to get too close!!! Why could Mykelti get close and actually hang out but Truely couldn't?? How does Robyn not see how her actions are affecting another child?? For Robyn, only her kids and herself matter. Christine was absolutely right in choosing to move Truely away into an environment where people truly care about her and give her love and attention.
You are right, Christine said she needed her space, “for now “. I never interpreted that to mean “no, not ever”. Just Sobyn Robyn playing victims again.
I think saying Christine is to transparent with her kids is harsh. She did everything she could to protect Truly and that backfired. The children who know about everything are basically adults and have seen the disparity between families. She honest and isn’t trying gaslit her kids.
I agree. Kids see everything. They know. We the audience all knew because she told kody many times and he chose to ignore it and treat it like she was playing a game
Oh what a relief to hear a more sensible conversation about this family! Thanks.
They can hold the baby but Kody said he was the only one who could hug Truely at that awful goodbye party?!?!?!
Mykelti was cruel to make her mother do this. Christine didn’t want it and Christine was the one that has been mistreated for over a decade.
I honestly think Mykelti didn't know how bad it was.
@@Chrissy_ci I agree with you but her mom obviously didn’t want to do it and she should have respected that. I don’t think there was any evil intent.
Mykelti was hit with the reality of the disfunction in that moment. It was all over her face.
I didn't see it as cruel, just in that moment she was reverting to the kid sad about the parents' divorce. She wanted reassurance that the family wasn't being blown up. Hopefully she saw the truth a bit more.
now we see how this kind of dysfunction gets passed down from generation to generation. Hope this helps other women to get out of traps like that!
You have to remember when Truly was little she almost died. So I can see her in Vegas not letting Truly sleep away from her. Then they move to Arizona and everyone is spread out and then Kody refused to allow his precious kids with Robyn around any of his other kids so she never got to spend the night away from Christin at that point either. The only other children around her age it Robyn's kids. Also, what he did to Truly at the end of this episode is probably what he does to her every weekend and that is also probably why she never wanted to stay.
Give her a hug and tell her he loves her? That’s a problem?
@@andeeq666 wow, take your rose colored glasses off. He was NOT being loving what so ever.
His not hid.😊😊😊
I love this team analysis approach! Your body language shows such openness & connection. Great model, thank you!💜
Love your wife. And adored watching your interactions with her. How awesome to see a couple communicating in a healthy way juxtaposed on a family that is so broken.
The no hugging goodbye was so hypocritical, Kody and Robyn let their kids hug Mykelti and the baby.
Right?
Exactly what I was thinking & yelling at the Tv! Lol!
Plus at this point, Ari and Sol are back in school in person. Ariella was chasing that other girl around so it didn't sound like any social distancing was happening there.
No hugging from Kody would be an improvement over the discomfort he forced on Truely.
Kody is so damn romantic when he talks about how hard he had to work to love Christine, and how he wasn’t in love with her but he went through the motions of being a husband because it was his duty. Be still my heart
If the love wasn't already dead, that little speech killed any shreds that were left of it.
Ha, ha,...for real
Oh forsure, when he said her leaving was doing him a favor last episode I couldn't comprehend why she was leaving such a loving and compassionate man.
He has parental rights, but if he tried to fight her on leaving, he would also have to start paying child support, which he under no circumstances would want to do
Why not? He paid for all his children’s educations.
Is he on the birth certificate
I love the husband and wife duo reviewing this! Love love ❤️
I think Janelle was surprised by Kody's anger because he didn't love Christine anyway. Why are you so made if you never loved her🤷🏾♀️?
Yes 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Because now he and robyn have to work!
Narcissistic injury. Classic.
@@elmavite1133 literally and figuratively!
He’s mad because HE didn’t make the decision! It’s an injury to his ego, that’s what he’s mad about!
People seem to forget that children are always watching and they pick up on these things. They're not exactly clueless and I'm sure the siblings talk to each other about it, especially Christine and Janelle's kids being so close.
Mycelti is a powerhouse. The fact that she had that talk about what it really means to be a family was amazing
I saw some parallels between Kody/Janelle and my marriage. My husband was in the army. When he was away, I had to make decisions on my own regarding our family. Now he is retired and we are still trying to navigate making decisions together. He gets frustrated when he feels I’m cutting him out. I feel waiting for him is unnecessary because I have always done things this way and I’ve never steered us wrong before. It’s been three years since he’s retired so we have it more or less worked out now, but Kody can’t be angry that he’s put her in a position to be independent while being angry she’s independent.
Marine Corps wife here & I think Janelle was right on. She says Kody is checked out when it comes to her & we can all see it. She's earne more money for the family over the years probably than Kody has.
I'm with you.
Fireman wife, yep, I also married him when he was in the military. Now that he is here every night most of the time. It’s a very hard adjustment.
Strong independent woman, I struggle with this often.
So we sat down and made rules, together. Example max dollar limits on spending , time limits for answers.
It really boils down to communicate skills and making them better. So honey make them better.