So from experience, they aren't "water proof" I had the unfortunate luck of a toilet leaking directly into the dip where the poe ethernet port is and the whole AP filled up with water... So thanks so much for showing me how to take it apart !!
@ryanmann9775 I've installed these outside and if you build a waterproof cover and use dielectric grease it will last years outside with rain and snow but the key is to keep it covered and dry. I have a dozen out in a forest and they still work great until a squirrel eats through an ethernet cable in the trees.🤓😎
@jay kastner when I added it to UniFi the clients connecting were both Wi-Fi 5&6 but this now has me wonder if I made a single SSID just for Wi-Fi 6 then what would my throughput be with a single client? I know my phone outperforms my 2022 MacBook Pro which I was surprised by. Normally Mac's have pretty good WiFi speeds but maybe there's other variables I don't know of yet like the mixed clients.
@@ShinyTechThings Different SSIDs still use the same HF circuits and antennas internally, that's where the firmware & scheduling becomes important ... the different SSID is a software 'hack' in a way but uses the very same hardware so it can eg service a 5 client first, then a 6 client. From what I read is the scheduling in 6 is better but IF you have a 5 client they all have to 'listen' to the less efficient 5 broadcasts
@jay kastner that's interesting...🤔 I'll have to do a little digging and see but to clarify I would remove all SSID's from the Wi-Fi 6 Pro AP and just make a single SSID for my 1 device to test the throughput.
@@ShinyTechThings Yeah I would create a new SSID & passwd only for 6 devices (edit - nothing else should connect!), test, then mix 5&6, test, then have only 5 and test again ... possible the 5 only test runs faster than on older APs because of the quicker SoC inside the new AP
@jay kastner it might take me a few weeks to do this because I also have the 6lr to unbox and crack open and hopefully it doesn't take nearly as long Pro. It probably took over a half hour to pray that thing open it was glued shut. I'm also tempted to just wait until the summer time and stick the access point outside in the sun when it's 120° out and that would warm the whole thing up to loosen the glue but I don't know if the lr6 is also glued like that or not.
I have a doubt , with tp link omada access point do you require the access point to be connected to an omada switch in order to use with the omada controller software?
@sachinsherry8175 from what I've read, they do support a standalone mode where you don't need any type of controller to set them up. Here's a support article that goes into the differences of running it with and without a controller. Does this help? www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/3357/
It's a bit old but.. - any chance you could read the flash dice (MX25U6435F) and share it? I have broken U6-pro, that fails on early boot - and perhaps reprogramming the flash could help
That AP is long gone, however If you check out my Instagram you might lock out with a high res photo of it, but you'll have to go back to when I posted this video for my posts on Instagram. But please let me know if you were able to find it or not and if you're successful at reflashing it.
@@ShinyTechThings by "read" I've meant to read it's 8MB flash content, not to read markings. Reflashing shouldn't be a problem - since I've read it already and it's quite common chip for bioses - but the problem is getting, what to flash on it :)
Actually, I do you probably still have some footage of iperf3 tests but open speed test although not necessarily considered the industry standard of testing but for normal users as it is more visual is more appealing which is why I opted to keep it in the final video over iperf3. Maybe I could run iperf3 vs OpenSpeedTest and seeing how much of a difference there really is if any. What do you think about that? Also, do you have any other requests or suggestions for upcoming videos?
@@ShinyTechThings Thanks for your answer! Your dilemma was the visual appeal of openspeedtest vs the more basic UI of an iperf? I would ask: who's your main intended audience? If it's more techsavvy people, they would perhaps be more interested in cold hard data presented in a terminal over a fancy graph? (at least i would be). One of the benefits of iperf for me is you get actual immediate and nonstop throughput data. So i tend to walk around the AP and see what distance and certain types of obstruction does to the speed. For a request or suggestion of upcoming video's: Unifi wifi 6e AP's that support 6GHz band are arriving, i would love to see a more in depth video of what range and walls do to the 6GHz speeds you get and if it's worth the extra cost of the AP if the signal degrades too much through 1 wall. something like that. Hope this helps :) PS: i love the disassembly stuff as well!
@jb4608s Thanks for the in depth response, I greatly appreciate it. I try to please both non and heavy technical people to try to bridge the gap and educate but I'll probably re-shoot some stuff then for another upcoming video. I do have a Wi-Fi 6 E video out for the U6 Enterprise (part 1 of 2) but yeah I have a *LOT* of footage I'm trying to trim down for the second video covering the fixes and what all I did along the way. Maybe I should just summarize instead of showing re-running of cabling, drilling in slow motion, etc.? When I stand in my kitchen in front of the refrigerator the speed drops significantly on 6GHz however 5GHz is still pretty fast. If I step away from the refrigerator a bit then it gets faster. I think it's the materials in the object that the higher frequencies won't penetrate as well especially metal.
@Obai Shehab I'm unaware of anyone installing the UniFi controller on a mobile phone, but you can enable cloud access on the UniFi controller on the PC and run it as a service and then connect with your phone to the controller using the UniFi Network App.
@IR it's a level where the bubble needs to balance between the lines on it so you know it's level. So if you installed on a piece of wood on a pole that's adjustable you can make sure it level before you tighten up the pole arm that's connected to the wood with the AP underneath it. I'm sure there's other uses as well, but that's just one I can think of.
I swaped from my 5 year old ac pro to this, Huge difference now that AX adapters are more common. Got 200 down off my ax Samsung cell from my mailbox. Window was in the way only. But that tells me my phone fan broadcast ax pretty far! Crisper too and I have 40 ish wireless things in the house no problem
@brycehall7300 totally the ODFMA makes a big difference too.with lots of clients. It's based off LTE on how that works which is why even on a congested tower that your reception is still good. What I've experienced with Wi-Fi 6E on 6GHz is both incredible breaking gigabit over air but as soon as you introduce a wall or two and then it's slower than 5GHz because it's a higher frequency. I'm about finished with the second video on the Wi-Fi 6 Enterprise AP which you might want to check out. I'll hopefully have that out in a couple weeks or less. I'm just trying to find some of the footage I know that I took is missing and most of it is edited now.
@Pedro Brigham When connected to the 2.5GbE PoE injector to my multigig switch it still performs the same as on the 1 gig PoE switch. Is that what you are asking?
@@ShinyTechThings No ask Grandstream to send you their latest WIFI6 AP the GWM7664 which has 2,5GB + 1GB NICs and make the same test with a 2.5GB connection.
@Qwerty Qwerty Those speeds are good, but achievable on most Wi-Fi hardware. It becomes more difficult when you break gigabit speeds. I have a second video coming out for the U6 Enterprise AP that you'll probably want to see.
I'm not too keen on gear that doesn't have screws. Not in 2024. Even if usually you wouldn't need to disassemble an access point, it challenges the right to repair.
@manny_f I agree, however I've installed these outside under a piece of plywood and although they aren't weather rated they've ran for years without issues. If they had screws then they would need a rubber gasket and rubber plugs for the screw holes. Open-Mesh when they were good before Datto used to be decent to open with a screwdriver and they were designed for outdoors but I'll have to find one in my garage and see if I still have one because I remember screws but I don't remember if they were glued at all or I could be misremembering it.
@@ShinyTechThingsTP-Link uses screws, I don't see why Unify can't use screws. It's like buying a house with a room that has a locked door you can't open. Pretty disrespectful actually.
@manny_f I think if they marketed it as a weatherized access point then it would probably be a little less disappointing but you can still take it apart. It just takes a bit of work. Also, after disassembling it i would not install it outside unless I cleaned off all of the glue and then weatherized it myself during reassembly.
@Karel Adriaansz No you can install it with a phone with Bluetooth using the UniFi app. It doesn't do deep packet inspection or anything fancy, just a standalone AP. That's across all their UniFi AP's. What AP or router do you currently run?
@@ShinyTechThings Yesterday, I tried to setup the Unifi 6 Professional. But, it didn't work somehow. I didn't see the AP in the app, it didn't pop up. And yeah, I bought the PoE+ adapter for it, from Ubiquiti. And I saw our other standalone AP's popping up in the app, while mine didn't. AP-HD and AP-Pro. But mine should be called U6-Pro. And I connected to our wifi where I connected the AP to.
@@ShinyTechThings And I just ordered some new network cables, CAT 6a to be precise. Only, the LAN cable which is plugged in in my switch in my room from our KPN router where the internet source is coming from, is a CAT 5e cable.
@Karel Adriaansz CAT5e is fine for up to 5GbE if it's a good quality solid copper cable and not copper clad. But even copper clad can be fine, I would rather use solid copper core as I know it will perform. CAT6 and above when you approach 10 Gigabits of speed it will be hit or miss on the manufacturer and even between cables I've seen one work and another only go up to 5 Gig reliably.
@Karel Adriaansz There's a chance you might need to manually upgrade the firmware from your computer to the AP or you could uninstall and reinstall the app on your phone. Of the Wi-Fi 6 AP's I've only installed the U6-LR in standalone mode and I think I remember updating the firmware but from my phone during the setup process. I would try doing the paperclip reset and see what happens. What all have you tried so far?
So from experience, they aren't "water proof" I had the unfortunate luck of a toilet leaking directly into the dip where the poe ethernet port is and the whole AP filled up with water...
So thanks so much for showing me how to take it apart !!
@ryanmann9775 I've installed these outside and if you build a waterproof cover and use dielectric grease it will last years outside with rain and snow but the key is to keep it covered and dry. I have a dozen out in a forest and they still work great until a squirrel eats through an ethernet cable in the trees.🤓😎
The cuts are getting better and better editing better and better excited for what’s in store for this channel loving the content keep it comin !
@Cj Mann thanks for your support!
Been curious what the inside of these looks like. Great vid!
@ValexNihilist Thanks, I have a few others that I cracked open. I may do the same to the Wi-Fi 7 Pro if my other videos get enough views.
Well done, thank you. Mixed wifi5&6 clients would be interesting to test to see how the better 6 scheduling improves throughput
@jay kastner when I added it to UniFi the clients connecting were both Wi-Fi 5&6 but this now has me wonder if I made a single SSID just for Wi-Fi 6 then what would my throughput be with a single client? I know my phone outperforms my 2022 MacBook Pro which I was surprised by. Normally Mac's have pretty good WiFi speeds but maybe there's other variables I don't know of yet like the mixed clients.
@@ShinyTechThings Different SSIDs still use the same HF circuits and antennas internally, that's where the firmware & scheduling becomes important ... the different SSID is a software 'hack' in a way but uses the very same hardware so it can eg service a 5 client first, then a 6 client. From what I read is the scheduling in 6 is better but IF you have a 5 client they all have to 'listen' to the less efficient 5 broadcasts
@jay kastner that's interesting...🤔 I'll have to do a little digging and see but to clarify I would remove all SSID's from the Wi-Fi 6 Pro AP and just make a single SSID for my 1 device to test the throughput.
@@ShinyTechThings Yeah I would create a new SSID & passwd only for 6 devices (edit - nothing else should connect!), test, then mix 5&6, test, then have only 5 and test again ... possible the 5 only test runs faster than on older APs because of the quicker SoC inside the new AP
@jay kastner it might take me a few weeks to do this because I also have the 6lr to unbox and crack open and hopefully it doesn't take nearly as long Pro. It probably took over a half hour to pray that thing open it was glued shut. I'm also tempted to just wait until the summer time and stick the access point outside in the sun when it's 120° out and that would warm the whole thing up to loosen the glue but I don't know if the lr6 is also glued like that or not.
I have a doubt , with tp link omada access point do you require the access point to be connected to an omada switch in order to use with the omada controller software?
@sachinsherry8175 from what I've read, they do support a standalone mode where you don't need any type of controller to set them up. Here's a support article that goes into the differences of running it with and without a controller. Does this help? www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/3357/
It's a bit old but.. - any chance you could read the flash dice (MX25U6435F) and share it? I have broken U6-pro, that fails on early boot - and perhaps reprogramming the flash could help
That AP is long gone, however If you check out my Instagram you might lock out with a high res photo of it, but you'll have to go back to when I posted this video for my posts on Instagram. But please let me know if you were able to find it or not and if you're successful at reflashing it.
@@ShinyTechThings by "read" I've meant to read it's 8MB flash content, not to read markings. Reflashing shouldn't be a problem - since I've read it already and it's quite common chip for bioses - but the problem is getting, what to flash on it :)
@@AdrianSiemieniak Oh, gotchya. I don;t have that AP anymore otherwise I would help.
Double liked just for the thumbnail
@SPX Labs It was very painful to take apart so feel free to share this video and maybe I'll do the same with the 6LR and the 6 Lite.👍
Great vid, thanks! A tip: you might wanna try out testing with iperf3 to prevent testing the internet instead of testing your AP ;)
Actually, I do you probably still have some footage of iperf3 tests but open speed test although not necessarily considered the industry standard of testing but for normal users as it is more visual is more appealing which is why I opted to keep it in the final video over iperf3. Maybe I could run iperf3 vs OpenSpeedTest and seeing how much of a difference there really is if any. What do you think about that? Also, do you have any other requests or suggestions for upcoming videos?
@@ShinyTechThings Thanks for your answer! Your dilemma was the visual appeal of openspeedtest vs the more basic UI of an iperf? I would ask: who's your main intended audience? If it's more techsavvy people, they would perhaps be more interested in cold hard data presented in a terminal over a fancy graph? (at least i would be). One of the benefits of iperf for me is you get actual immediate and nonstop throughput data. So i tend to walk around the AP and see what distance and certain types of obstruction does to the speed.
For a request or suggestion of upcoming video's: Unifi wifi 6e AP's that support 6GHz band are arriving, i would love to see a more in depth video of what range and walls do to the 6GHz speeds you get and if it's worth the extra cost of the AP if the signal degrades too much through 1 wall. something like that. Hope this helps :) PS: i love the disassembly stuff as well!
@jb4608s Thanks for the in depth response, I greatly appreciate it. I try to please both non and heavy technical people to try to bridge the gap and educate but I'll probably re-shoot some stuff then for another upcoming video. I do have a Wi-Fi 6 E video out for the U6 Enterprise (part 1 of 2) but yeah I have a *LOT* of footage I'm trying to trim down for the second video covering the fixes and what all I did along the way. Maybe I should just summarize instead of showing re-running of cabling, drilling in slow motion, etc.? When I stand in my kitchen in front of the refrigerator the speed drops significantly on 6GHz however 5GHz is still pretty fast. If I step away from the refrigerator a bit then it gets faster. I think it's the materials in the object that the higher frequencies won't penetrate as well especially metal.
That's was awesome!
It was impressive for sure. Way better than the Wi-Fi 6 lite which was a joke IMO.
Nice tear down, to bad it doesn't have 2.5gig POE port.. Maybe next version.
@Jason's Lab When they come out with the enterprise version of the AP it will hopefully have 2.5GbE and WiFi 6E
i have unifi controller on my pc put i want install the controller on my mobile can u tell me whate is the stips please ?
@Obai Shehab I'm unaware of anyone installing the UniFi controller on a mobile phone, but you can enable cloud access on the UniFi controller on the PC and run it as a service and then connect with your phone to the controller using the UniFi Network App.
1:33 What is that supposed to be used for?
@IR it's a level where the bubble needs to balance between the lines on it so you know it's level. So if you installed on a piece of wood on a pole that's adjustable you can make sure it level before you tighten up the pole arm that's connected to the wood with the AP underneath it. I'm sure there's other uses as well, but that's just one I can think of.
I swaped from my 5 year old ac pro to this, Huge difference now that AX adapters are more common. Got 200 down off my ax Samsung cell from my mailbox. Window was in the way only. But that tells me my phone fan broadcast ax pretty far! Crisper too and I have 40 ish wireless things in the house no problem
@brycehall7300 totally the ODFMA makes a big difference too.with lots of clients. It's based off LTE on how that works which is why even on a congested tower that your reception is still good. What I've experienced with Wi-Fi 6E on 6GHz is both incredible breaking gigabit over air but as soon as you introduce a wall or two and then it's slower than 5GHz because it's a higher frequency. I'm about finished with the second video on the Wi-Fi 6 Enterprise AP which you might want to check out. I'll hopefully have that out in a couple weeks or less. I'm just trying to find some of the footage I know that I took is missing and most of it is edited now.
@Shiny Tech Things I will and subscribed I have a cwna so this stuff is great!
@brycehall7300 Nice!👍😎
I have three of the U6 Pro access points. I really like them.
@Frederick Falk Nice! What speeds are you getting and from what devices?
Teste the Grandstream GWN7664 over the 2.5GB network port. thanks.
@Pedro Brigham When connected to the 2.5GbE PoE injector to my multigig switch it still performs the same as on the 1 gig PoE switch. Is that what you are asking?
@@ShinyTechThings No ask Grandstream to send you their latest WIFI6 AP the GWM7664 which has 2,5GB + 1GB NICs and make the same test with a 2.5GB connection.
@@pbrigham I'm not familiar with that brand but I'll reach out to them and see what I can do, thanks for the suggestion!
@@pbrigham I just sent them a email, hopefully they'll send me one.
I'm getting 800-900Mbps on 5ghz wifi 6 network with 80ghz channel width. Pretty sick if you ask me
@Qwerty Qwerty Those speeds are good, but achievable on most Wi-Fi hardware. It becomes more difficult when you break gigabit speeds. I have a second video coming out for the U6 Enterprise AP that you'll probably want to see.
@Shiny Tech Things when comparing it to consumer routers/ap that are usually packaged with ISP plans, it's pretty good
I do not see an IP in the router.
But I see a Wifi D021F9C7B493.
But it is encrypted.
What is the access password?
@Ano Nymos could you please elaborate more? In the UniFi dashboard are you only seeing a MAC address and not an IP?
I'm not too keen on gear that doesn't have screws. Not in 2024. Even if usually you wouldn't need to disassemble an access point, it challenges the right to repair.
@manny_f I agree, however I've installed these outside under a piece of plywood and although they aren't weather rated they've ran for years without issues. If they had screws then they would need a rubber gasket and rubber plugs for the screw holes. Open-Mesh when they were good before Datto used to be decent to open with a screwdriver and they were designed for outdoors but I'll have to find one in my garage and see if I still have one because I remember screws but I don't remember if they were glued at all or I could be misremembering it.
@@ShinyTechThingsTP-Link uses screws, I don't see why Unify can't use screws. It's like buying a house with a room that has a locked door you can't open. Pretty disrespectful actually.
@manny_f I think if they marketed it as a weatherized access point then it would probably be a little less disappointing but you can still take it apart. It just takes a bit of work. Also, after disassembling it i would not install it outside unless I cleaned off all of the glue and then weatherized it myself during reassembly.
Oh, you really need that Unifi OS thing in order to make that access point work? What a scam. Apple 2.0
@Karel Adriaansz No you can install it with a phone with Bluetooth using the UniFi app. It doesn't do deep packet inspection or anything fancy, just a standalone AP. That's across all their UniFi AP's. What AP or router do you currently run?
@@ShinyTechThings Yesterday, I tried to setup the Unifi 6 Professional. But, it didn't work somehow. I didn't see the AP in the app, it didn't pop up. And yeah, I bought the PoE+ adapter for it, from Ubiquiti. And I saw our other standalone AP's popping up in the app, while mine didn't. AP-HD and AP-Pro. But mine should be called U6-Pro. And I connected to our wifi where I connected the AP to.
@@ShinyTechThings And I just ordered some new network cables, CAT 6a to be precise. Only, the LAN cable which is plugged in in my switch in my room from our KPN router where the internet source is coming from, is a CAT 5e cable.
@Karel Adriaansz CAT5e is fine for up to 5GbE if it's a good quality solid copper cable and not copper clad. But even copper clad can be fine, I would rather use solid copper core as I know it will perform. CAT6 and above when you approach 10 Gigabits of speed it will be hit or miss on the manufacturer and even between cables I've seen one work and another only go up to 5 Gig reliably.
@Karel Adriaansz There's a chance you might need to manually upgrade the firmware from your computer to the AP or you could uninstall and reinstall the app on your phone. Of the Wi-Fi 6 AP's I've only installed the U6-LR in standalone mode and I think I remember updating the firmware but from my phone during the setup process. I would try doing the paperclip reset and see what happens. What all have you tried so far?