Just got my first SG. Epiphone SG Modern. I looooove it! Ive always liked a flat fretboard, and the neck on this epi is ...perfect. I cannot imagine the Gibson being that much better. I play for tone and no other reason.
I think you got the 61 SG that is normally 599. model. The truss rod cover does not say les paul. Still a good guitar but the one in this video currently cost 949.00 and it comes with a hard shell case and Burst bucker pick ups. That is the only difference. Your model has pro buckers in it which are similar to Gibson 57 classics which are great for 80's and 90's rock and as far as I'm concerned for most of what you will want to play in the rock category. This guitar in this video has pretty much that one difference. The pick ups and case included in the price. You get what you pay for. The guitar you have is a great guitar and I'm buying one next week. Found a used one with maestro tremolo and case included that was bought separate for 125 bux for 400. Hardly used. The young man bought it to learn to play and it's a bit to much for a learner with the tremolo. So he paid 649 which is cost with tremolo and the case at 125. I scored.
I paid 500 at GC. And yes it is the IBG cuz I pulled the pickups and they are the BBs and the hardshell case. For some reason GC could not sell them at almost 1k.
Same, I picked up one in Olympic White at the store. You go online they list them at $949. I was actually going to get a Epiphone SG Standard @ $499. I didn't quiet like it and then saw the '61 Les Paul on the clearance rack. A steal at $589.
I have one of these, and I love everything about it. Build is flawless and was nicely set up out of the box. It's not the same as a Gibson, of course and Mike pointed out the differences. 100% agree on the frets, awesome. Can't be the same wood coming from China, I don't care that the finish won't rub off soon, I don't really need the nibs, now do I? The tuners/hardware complaint is some deep nitpicking at the Epiphone price point. Give one a hard look, and you won't need your rose-colored glasses. It's beautiful and a wonderful guitar to play, with all the stuff that makes the great sound of Gibson SG, at half the price. Talking about quality issues in a review isn't bashing. Go shopping and you'll see it in-person. That was a problem for me when I wanted a new but traditionally Gibson style build ES-335. I ended up with a superb H-535 after comparing two, and that was a pickup preference.
Great vid Mike I buy guitars to play them If they play and sound good that's all that matters They don't to need to say Gibson/Fender There are so many budget friendly guitars out there Back in the day if it was imported it was "junk" Not anymore You need only to look at the PRS SE line and the Sire brand
Great review as always! I'm a big SG guy. My first guitar was an Epiphone G-400 from 2005 (a 61 RI copy like the one you are reviewing). My only gripe with this new one is that my '05 had a full gloss finish (including the headstock face) and it had a really nice dark cherry stain that looked Gibson-like. I understand the trade-off that Epi made though and I kind of agree...sacrifice the gloss finish and put those labor hours into QC or some other manufacturing step.
I bought one 7 months ago and couldn't have been happier, always wanted a white SG but to get a 61 Les Paul SG Standard is beyond cool, it sounds so great and those pickups are beautiful and versatile, more poop and clarity than the dimarzio pafs in my hybrid strat, ive owned quite a few axes but this is the funnest to play and best bang for your buck, thanks epiphone!!!
I got a true friday example of these! Saw its flamed, bookmatched two piece boston the local guitar store… light as a feather. Couldnt resist!!! Promise you that at least mine are competing with the gib anyday. Have had a gibson sg earlier and this epiphone is way beyond that one when it comes to quality. Only thing ive done isto switch for classic locking tuners (cause Im lazy) not really needed! An amazing red beauty! Buy one✨
Liked and Subscribed all the way from Mexico, good Sir! Down right honest review, really dig it. I've a soft spot for Epiphone as my first electric was an Epi, and now I've got four lying around! (SG G-400 among them). Really glad to see they're killing it, making great guitars, and that more people are enjoying them. Have you tried a Casino? That is one sweet, sweet guitar.
Just bought this guitar as my very first SG. Took one of my favorite guitar straps to the store to test the balance as many SG's are notoriously neck heavy. Plus I've never been a fan of the front guitar strap pin at the base of the neck. Surprisingly...or maybe not, this guitar is very well balanced. Perhaps a little hint of neck dive and very little if any of the feeling of it falling away from the body due to the front strap pin placement. I really like the neck profile and the overall feel and sound of the guitar. I'm just about to change the lousy strings, the fretboard definitely needs conditioning and the action and relief need adjusted too. Also the screws on the tuners needed tightening. I'm in Canadastan and got this on sale for around $350 off retail and considering the fantastic quality of the guitar, the Gibson pickups which sell for around $200 each up here, the quality electronics, decent hardshell and good balance it was a no brainer.
When a guitar is neck heavy you can always combat that by wrapping part of the guitar cable around the bottom of the strap, this is how the pros do it.
@kirkhunter146 pros do that to prevent the jack from pulling out of the guitars output. I fail to see how it would effect the balance of a neck heavy guitar. Using a strap that isn't slick ,on the other hand, is something that pros will do. Some have gone so far as to stick skateboard grip tape to their strap. Personally, I think that's a bit extreme, but it has been done.
I have 2 epiphone LPs and got to play a friend's Gibson LP. There is a reason Gibsons cost more with a caviat. It depends on the year of the Gibson. Epiphones seem to get better, while Gibsons tend to have better years than others.
Great review. I always wanted an SG. I didn't want to spend 2 Grand on one. I saw this with Gibson pickups, electronics, cool hardshell case, and on sale for $799. I bought it. I have too many great guitars already and I'm very picky. I love this guitar. It sounds great, plays great, looks great. It's a super alternative to buying a Gibson with a story all its own.
Hey Grumpy, Well I have to get this guitar because it's the same year I was born, and I don't even play the guitar, I play the Cowbell, Now Get Off My Lawn you kids !!!
Nice one, sir! I have the Epi '61 Custom, which is the next step down from yours. It has the 3-piece neck and Epi Probucker pups. It didn't come with a case, but I bought a nice EpiLite case for it for $89. I think the Custom is @ $649 right now. The Custom is Ebony, so I can't see the heel or the scarf joint anyway, so it doesn't matter to me. I love my SG. Glad you like yours.
You’re a cool dude and I’m going to take your word on this one. Im just a click away from buying a mint one for $500 used with the case also mint. What do you think? For a nice price and certainly alot cheaper than the Gibson I’m thinking it’s a deal? Also, just got the Fender player tele 2 HH and I’m really liking it. The rosewood is back and man I love it. The Sire’s are coming out look sweet too!
That sounds like a great price, just make sure it is the "Inspired By Gibson Custom" model. The best way to be sure is the cavity cover on the back. Also, make sure the truss rod cover says Les Paul. But, I'm sure you probably already know all of that. Thanks for watching the video.
I played one of thse at GC in St Louis while I was supposed to be Les Paul shopping and I kept going back to it. Sounded really good through that Marshall DSL40!
Thank you for making an honest and straightforward review. That guitar will serve you every bit as well as the Gibson. I plan to buy this in White. Thanks again and I just subscribed.
Hey Grumpy, I recently bought a Gibson Sg Special . And I must be around your age, so these eyes of mine ain’t what they used to be. And I never noticed the tone nibs . Ya the secret is in those nibs. Ha, Ha. I like that Sg ur strumming on, I’ve been looking at those myself. Keep on Rockin Man.
Wow I'm really late to this Epi 61 SG review, thanks! Used cherry like yours just showed up at a local store, and I've been wanting an SG with Gibson Burstbuckers (I'd prefer 1,2 but I'll take 2,3). The 61 Gibson SG Standard now have BB1,2 but they're 3x the price of this used one, so this seems like a no brainer.
Hi Mike, Excellent guitars👍Ive had the white version for a while and I prefer it to my Gibson. If you get a chance to try a Epiphone SG Special P-90, Faded Pelham Blue ? Do it’s also a brilliant inspired by Gibson guitar.👍🍺
@@grumpymikeguitar Ah I forgotten you did that video 😳I bought the ebony black standard and a red vibrato 61 also.I had a bit of a SG binge last year after watching Colin the guitaristas deep dive Friday videos. Have you tried the Epiphone white Billie Joe Armstrong LP Junior? It’s a excellent guitar and comes in a black hard case with leopard print lining.The new Gibson version comes in a awesome fluorescent pink chainsaw case 👍🤣😂
I had a Gibson SG Standard, and currently have the Epiphone SG '61 Standard. MUCH prefer the Epiphone. Better frets, better neck. Infinitely better playing guitar than the Gibson I had. I LOATHE tiny frets with binding over the ends.
I have to admit I am torn between an Epiphone SG Standard, the Epiphone 1961 SG (the one with Gibson pickups) and a full blown SG. I just played around with a Gibson SG Standard in the local Guitar Center and I have to admit that one felt special. I compared it to a couple of Epiphone 61 Standards (not the Gibson pickups) and to be honest the main differences were the body carving and the setup. The Gibson was set up very well, the Epis were both high but I could fix that. The Gibson was $1599 though and the Epis were $584. The reason I am tempted to go with the Epi with the Gibson pickups is I have the Epiphone 59 LP and it is a great guitar which also has the same Gibson pickups. The only real benefit I see to the Gibson over that higher end Epi is the resale value should you ever want or need to sell. The Gibson will definitely hold value better.
Yes, the Gibson will retain more of its value. That is just a fact. However, I have to say that I've noticed lately that MIM Fenders, higher end Epiphones, and even Squiers are holding better on the used market that they ever used to. That's not to say that they will ever do as well, or even better than their U.S. made counterparts. And, it's no secret that the quality of the imports have come way up in the last 4 or 5 years. Ultimately, you must decide if resale value and having that Gibson logo on the headstock is important enough to you to justify the higher price. That said, in my humble opinion, you can't go wrong with the Inspired By Gibson Custom 61 LP SG. It is absolutely a fantastic guitar. Even if I someday bought the Gibson model, I'd still probably keep my Epi. I love it that much. Thanks for watching the video and commenting. I really appreciate it.
@@grumpymikeguitar I actually went back to get the Gibson. It was marked $400 off and they gave me another $100 off too. So it was only half the premium you would normally expect to pay. Heard a lot about Gibson quality over the years but this one is great.
Just sent an SG back. Huge back bow. Loosening the truss rod by less than half a turn caused the truss rod nut to protrude out of the guitar to the point you couldn't get the truss rod cover back on. Very high end 😆
@grumpymikeguitar It was the Epiphone Tony Iommi Signature model. Super high action, they must have cranked the truss rod into back bow to hide the cello like action. It should have never left the factory.
Cool review. I only have a Gibson SG, actually a satin natural SG Special, and a Lyle Japanese SG knock-off. I actually picked up the Gibson for $700 brand new right before J.C. moved Gibson's focus into trademark trollery. I was just then looking at my second Gibson, trying to decide betweeen another SG ('60s reissue, pretty much the same as this SG) or a bass; haven't bought anything from the Gibson empire since (although I have guarded hopes for Caesar's leadership.) So those Epi prices look absolutely insane to me even though I love SG style guitars. I'm really trying not to buy Chinese guitars nowadays, although I may well pick up an IYV SG-style (I love Vietnam.) Maybe that Gibson '60s reissue SG. Mo' debinitely not a $1,000 Chinese Epiphone SG (although I do love my Chinese-built Epiphone Wildkat) but I can admit that the Chinese are doing very good work and that SG sounds great. (Ditto with the Indonesians who aren't pointing nukes at me.) That case looks like it's lined with Pepto Bismol lol.
Hi mate , I got one early this year , and I too think its incredible value for money ! just subbed too , sorry I thought I had a sub to your channel already
I’m really trying to think about what to sell to get one of these. Also, I can’t decide between the red or the white one. White is usually a bit flashy for my taste but it looks so good in person on this guitar.
Excellent review and demo! Love your playing, Mike. No nonsense comments about the minimal difference between this and its Gibson counterpart are greatly appreciated! If I didn't already have 2 very nice Epiphone SGs (cherry red and pelham blue) I might go get this one right now, based on your review alone! But I'll grit my teeth and stay away from the "BUY NOW" button…I think…I hope…maybe.
@@grumpymikeguitar Oh, no doubt - I want to, Mike! My wife already thinks that I'm hopelessly addicted to, er, um, procuring guitars. If she sees another one appear, she may have me committed. And you're not helping at all!
Great vid Mike! You know - these used to be $849 not too long ago. I bought one new in December for $750 and now they are $949 new - thats just crazy!!! You can buy a Gibson SG Tribute new for $1299 and pick one up used for $800. Epiphone is playing a dangerous game with their price hikes it seems.
I would add also - I do agree with your assessment of the guitar. I have Gibsons and Epiphones. This Epi is great quality. It looks great, feels great, plays great and sounds great. If I had to buy it again at todays prices (and without a discount), I would pay the $949. Its worth it - without the Gibson comparison - compared to other brands at this price point, it holds up.
Yeah I remember I bought my Gibson sg faded in 2015 for only $400 used at guitar center and my 61 reissue was only $1200 used. Prices are crazy nowadays all across the board. Only Squier and Harley Benton are realistic nowadays with their prices
@@coreycann6751 I just bought a used Gibson LP Studio 60s tribute w/P90s in Cherry Sunburst for $750, cleaned up some small finish issues, replaced the knobs (2 were broken) and replaced the cracked plastic jack plate on it. I have 2 buddies that want it - trying to get me to sell it for $1200. Studios are $1700 new now - prices have gotten out of control and players (like us) are pushing them because we'll pay those prices.
@@racesla I agree, but it still says Gibson on the headstock which makes a difference to most people; quality of sound aside. My Epi has burstbuckers, trapezoid inlays, and neck binding and it will never fetch the same used price as a stripped down SG Tribute...bummer.
These need bass turned up higher than treble to approximate Gibson tone. Great little guitar. Keep away from Harley Benton. Pay the extra bucks. No mods needed. Feels real too. And it weighs 6.5 lb. instead of HB at 9.
@user-cl3re8xi7y Well, I'm wouldn't necessarily say better than a Gibson. I would simply say that in a blind comparison, the vast majority of players would have a very hard time telling which is which. Appearance wise, the Gibsons are definitely better. They use more expensive wood with better woodgrain etc. The other important issue is that the Epi is not going to retain value like the Gibson. All that aside, though, this Epi is definitely bang for the buck.
@FrankBuyers...guitarista-iu3zg can't say that I agree, maybe very close to "as good," but they are not better. I strongly caution you to not fall into the myth that poor Gibson quality is a widespread thing. That is total BS. In the last 40 years, I've found just as many problems with new American made Fenders as I have with Gibsons. I know it's immensely popular to rag on Gibson, but that why you really shouldn't believe everything you read. If they were really as bad as hype merchant's exclaim, Gibson would have gone out of business 30 years ago. Instead, Gibson remains an industry standard and for good reason. They are, as they have always been, really good guitars. My point in this very is merely to highlight the glorious fact that Gibson has chosen to really up the game when it come to the Epiphone line. This is awesome news for folks like myself who yearn for a more affordable guitar of comparable quality.
As I said in the video, the frets on this guitar are fantastic. They were level and well polished right out of the box. Gibson can't claim any point in the fretwork department on this one.
So far, my JJN gold glory and aj Silverburst are of excellent quality. Definitely puch as well as my Gibsons. Especially for the money. Funnily enough, I dislike signature guitars. Goes to show. Lol
Fantastic video! I own one of these and love it. I had a Gibson Les Paul Tribute before it with the 490R/490T pickups, and this sounds better. You’re dead on with the case - it’s good, but the hard case that came with my Gibson SG Special is definitely better. I, myself, like the satin finishes versus the glossy. I just like how they feel in the hand when playing better. I know that’s a personal thing, but, to me, it’s just more comfortable. I LOVE the tuners on it. They’re rock solid on mine. They’re just great.
Pao ferro isnt a cheap wood and it’s not bad that fender use it. It was viewed as an upgrade on rosewood for decades before fender made the switch and shur uses it on v high end guitars. On the fender srv model the price was once justified by the fact it had a ferro board. If anything it’s a good thing they use high end figured ferro on the mim range to replace rosewood bc its not a lesser material. Additionally, im not sure id be comfortable taking any gibson guitar to a gigging scenario bc thats how they get damaged and broken. Rockstars could do it bc theyre rockstars but mostly the gibsons belong in studios to record with. For actually using live id take smthg like this all day long.
All I can say is, when I play it, it feels like I'm playing a Gibson and it sounds like I'm playing a Gibson. And, to your point, the build quality just might be better than some Gibsons. It has certainly diminished my lust for a Gibson 61 LP reissue tremendously.
By definition, yes, however, not all wood is suitable for guitars. Some wood is too heavy. Some wood is too soft. In this case, though, you are correct, the variety of mahogany makes no real difference.
Is it really a two piece body? My understanding was these have a two piece veneer on the top so looking at the top doesn't tell you anything. Looking at the lower edge of the guitar, it will be obvious where the seams are. Also, it sounds like your action is adjusted a little too low. Raising it just a little will give you better sustain.
@@LiteralApe I have only spent 8 or 10 minutes playing one at my local GC. It played and sounded good. I just didn't care for the way they did the veneer. It just didn't look right. I know, that's a purely ecstatic thing, but it's really the only reason I didn't buy one.
I have this guitar in white , and I have the ‘59 Les Paul inspired by Gibson , both are amazing guitars , I’ve had the chance to buy a Gibson or buy these two guitars , I chose these over the Gibson. I’m very satisfied with my choice. But since they are made in China , If I want a Gibson , I’ll just buy a Chibson and put some better internals , still won’t be a true Gibson but I won’t be spending thousands on something I don’t play that much. I’m a drummer but I love guitars. I have them for the people I play with in case they don’t have a guitar or didn’t bring theirs with them. I have four Les Paul’s and one strat and my white SG. I’m not gonna pay for a name , and yeah they do hold value and some increase in value , but I’m okay with what I have , I don’t try to sell my stuff anyway. 👍👍👍✌️✌️✌️
Epiphone has been making some really good guitars. The gap between Gibson and Epiphone has gotten much narrower in the past few years. And, with the Inspired By Gibson Custom guitars, that gap is downright tiny. I would, however, urge you to stay away from the Chibsons. There's no need for that. Thanks for checking out the video! 🎸🤘✌️
Nibs are a hinderance not an advantage when playing though I would agree that they look more aesthetically pleasing. Loads of different woods are called Mahogany manufacturers use locally sourced woods where ever you go in the World. There is no study that I'm aware of that has definitively proven that the wood a solid body guitar is made from has a significant impact on the sound it produces, its really all about the pickups and wiring, caps and pots used that will have the biggest impact along with the players ability which is the most important factor. The number of Gibson's owners I've seen who are half arsed players reflects a shocking waste of money IHMO. Guitarists should spend more time on getting a better teacher or practicing than on expensive Gibsons. Having a good set up is more important than the wood a guitar is made from in terms of playability and the sound it produces. Its better to have a mediocre case than none at all, Gibson Tribute and studio models which are more expensive than the guitar featured dont come with any sort of hard case.
Better than Gibson no one buys into the Gibson bs anymore..for one we All know now that the solid body Les Paul actually began in the Epiphone new York facility with Les Paul.. Gibson had nothing to do with the original concept
To the contrary. I have been a Gibson fan since I was a kid. They really are fantastic guitars. I honestly believe that Gibson doesn't deserve 90% of the bad rap it gets. Have there been QC issues? Sure, but, in reality, I've found just as many, if not more with Fenders. Somewhere along the line, it became fashionable to bash Gibson. Personally, I think it has something to do with the fact that Gibsons cost so much more. However, most folks don't take into account the set necks, binding, inlays, and a few other things, simply cost more to produce. But, I get it, if I'm paying that much, it should be perfect. The real issue here is the fact that import guitars have gotten so much better than they used to be, and they seem to be continually getting better. That's an awesome thing for all of us financially challenged folks and is certainly a reason to celebrate.
@@grumpymikeguitar the Quindoe Epiphone facility is state of the art and completely American owned and operated by Gibson/Epiphone Scott Lewis is the facility manager along with American and Asian luthiers..
@@grumpymikeguitarGibson fatal mistake was trying to sue everyone on copyright infringement and they failed miserably what that did was make a lot of people do research to find out why Gibson wasn't winning and guess what everyone found..they found that Gibson has been full of crap for decades especially there invention claims..
My epiphone riviera was Madie by gibson 1966, does gibson own epiphone by way of norlin.?either way l have a gibson sg standard I bought in 2020. Its flawless inevery way except for the so called case which is a real piece of spit in my face,for 1779! THAT IS WAY TOO MUCH AND NO CASE,,,! I GOT MINE FOR 1600, BUT THEY WERE 325 IN 1966,, BRAND NEW WITH CASE..
Fret Nibs, something Gibson puts over their frets so they don't have to spend time filing and polishing frets. People think there great, but I think it's the cheap way to do frets.
Yah..at the moment I have 3 epis,and 4 Gibsons. Epis are nice,and perfectly fine guitar's, but they are no Gibson. Or so I think anywho. For what that's worth lol.
@@jordanpratt3821 I would encourage you to give this guitar a try. I have a feeling, if you were blindfolded and handed both guitars, you would be unable to tell which was which.
Mine is monhognoy and i have played them all a hogh end epi os beyter rhsn a low end Gibson ..gibson is mass prpduced ypu gotta find those old ones modded
Your attempt at sarcasm isn't lost on me, however, what it tells me is you must have never gigged or traveled with a guitar. Otherwise, you would understand the importance of a sturdy, well built case. The Epiphone case is neither.
Not gonna disagree. There are quite a lot of imports that are as good or even better. Well, that is right up until you take that big depreciation hit when you decide to sell it to get that next guitar. Not saying that it should be that way, but the fact is that USA made guitars hold value far more than their import counterparts. If I bought the Gibson version of this guitar at the same time I got this Epi, I could now sell that Gibson for very close to what I paid. For the Epi, I'm gonna take a 2 or 3 hundred dollar hit, minimum. I have nothing against imports. The vast majority of my guitars are imports. That said, there is a difference between having the real thing as opposed to the knockoff. You may like the knockoff as much or even more than the real (authentic 🤣) guitar, but, down the road, when/if you decide to sell or trade to get that "next step up" guitar, the import is gonna put a big ol frownny face 😩 on your head
This guitar is made in China by Gibson… there is no way Gibson are going to allow its Chinese facility to come anywhere near a Nashville made product. As good as it maybe (especially for the price!) It’s nowhere near a Nashville SG - It never will be. If you want the real deal, save your money. If not, then that’s cool, but in no way shape or form is it as good as a Gibson SG.
Sorry, but I've played a crap ton of Gibson SGs in my day, and that's going back 40+ years. This Epi is just about as close as you can get. BTW, I'm guessing you've never even picked one of these up, sooo...
@@grumpymikeguitar Ok where to start! - The body of the Epiphone isn’t the correct size or shape, the Gibson is thinner and more delicate in detail. Including the neck the Epiphone is made out of at least 6 pieces of ‘mahogany’ and 2 thin veneers from an unknown source and probably not ‘real’ mahogany. The Gibson is made from 3 pieces of sourced ‘real’ mahogany - very different tone woods. The metal items on the Epiphone are cheap ‘pot metal’ and are heavy. The Gibsons are light alloy which is far better for sustain. The Plastics are cheaper than the Gibsons as are all the screws. The frets are not the same on the Epi, much lower grade steel. Of course usually the pick ups are inferior, but obviously not on this particular one you have. The paint and the finishing are just not in the same league, Gibsons are not covered in a layer of plastic. Gibsons hold or increase in value, Epiphones don’t. I like you have been playing for over 40 years, and I own both Gibsons and Epiphones (I just bought an Epi TV Yellow special and it’s great!) In fact it’s the only Epiphone I’ve ever bought that has a neck that comes close to a Gibson. They are great for the money, but they are not Gibsons, really.. not even close. You asked ‘as good as a Gibson?’ The answer is no - no it’s not.
@TheVoosters it would appear that you don't understand the difference between the standard Epiphones and the Inspired By Gibson Custom Epiphones. They are very different and the vast majority of what you have stated here has absolutely nothing to do with this guitar. I highly recommend you actually try one. Better yet, do a blindfolded test. I have a feeling you wouldn't be able to tell which is which.
If you ayed both guitars blindfolded and not allowed to feel up the headstock, I doubt seriously that you could tell which was which. Yes, you may think you could, but thinking something and actually being able to are two completely different things. And besides, I feel 100% confident that you've missed the entire point of the video. The actual point is that Epiphones are becoming guitars that should be taken seriously.
Make money? Who's making money? Not really sure what you're referring to, but on average, I spend hundreds out of my own pocket for each video. I've never asked for or been offered free stuff from any manufacturer or retailer. This is a hobby and I sure as hell ain't making any money. That said, I also spend money on supporting other creators via Super Chats, Super Thanks, and Patreon simply because I enjoy their videos, as well as appreciate the many hours of work it takes to produce that video, and want to support them so they can continue to do what they do. Also, it's been I while since I made this video, but I'm pretty sure I haven't ever asked anyone to do anything other than sub, like, and share the video. However, a while back, I did activate the Super Thanks button on my videos, but I've never once even mentioned it. If someone wants to support my work, I am extremely grateful. As my friend, China Mike (God rest his soul), used to say, "Never requested, but always appreciated." Maybe you can enlighten me on the meaning of your question because I haven't got a clue what you're on about.
Just got my first SG. Epiphone SG Modern. I looooove it! Ive always liked a flat fretboard, and the neck on this epi is ...perfect. I cannot imagine the Gibson being that much better. I play for tone and no other reason.
got mine at $589 on clearance at GC no question love the finish!
Congrats, that's a great deal.
I think you got the 61 SG that is normally 599. model. The truss rod cover does not say les paul. Still a good guitar but the one in this video currently cost 949.00 and it comes with a hard shell case and Burst bucker pick ups. That is the only difference. Your model has pro buckers in it which are similar to Gibson 57 classics which are great for 80's and 90's rock and as far as I'm concerned for most of what you will want to play in the rock category. This guitar in this video has pretty much that one difference. The pick ups and case included in the price. You get what you pay for. The guitar you have is a great guitar and I'm buying one next week. Found a used one with maestro tremolo and case included that was bought separate for 125 bux for 400. Hardly used. The young man bought it to learn to play and it's a bit to much for a learner with the tremolo. So he paid 649 which is cost with tremolo and the case at 125. I scored.
I paid 500 at GC. And yes it is the IBG cuz I pulled the pickups and they are the BBs and the hardshell case. For some reason GC could not sell them at almost 1k.
Congrats, sounds like you got a hell of a deal. 👍
Same, I picked up one in Olympic White at the store. You go online they list them at $949. I was actually going to get a Epiphone SG Standard @ $499. I didn't quiet like it and then saw the '61 Les Paul on the clearance rack. A steal at $589.
I have one of these, and I love everything about it. Build is flawless and was nicely set up out of the box. It's not the same as a Gibson, of course and Mike pointed out the differences. 100% agree on the frets, awesome. Can't be the same wood coming from China, I don't care that the finish won't rub off soon, I don't really need the nibs, now do I? The tuners/hardware complaint is some deep nitpicking at the Epiphone price point. Give one a hard look, and you won't need your rose-colored glasses. It's beautiful and a wonderful guitar to play, with all the stuff that makes the great sound of Gibson SG, at half the price. Talking about quality issues in a review isn't bashing. Go shopping and you'll see it in-person. That was a problem for me when I wanted a new but traditionally Gibson style build ES-335. I ended up with a superb H-535 after comparing two, and that was a pickup preference.
Great vid Mike
I buy guitars to play them
If they play and sound good that's all that matters
They don't to need to say Gibson/Fender
There are so many budget friendly guitars out there
Back in the day if it was imported it was "junk"
Not anymore
You need only to look at the PRS SE line and the Sire brand
Great job as always sir !!
Great review as always! I'm a big SG guy. My first guitar was an Epiphone G-400 from 2005 (a 61 RI copy like the one you are reviewing). My only gripe with this new one is that my '05 had a full gloss finish (including the headstock face) and it had a really nice dark cherry stain that looked Gibson-like. I understand the trade-off that Epi made though and I kind of agree...sacrifice the gloss finish and put those labor hours into QC or some other manufacturing step.
I've a G-400 (2011 if memory serves), that guitar may have my favorite neck carve!
@michael.davides For what it’s worth it’s very easy to polish it up by hand. Cheers.
After seeing this and hearing the tone I've decided to buy one of these. Sounds great, looks great and the price is right.
I bought one 7 months ago and couldn't have been happier, always wanted a white SG but to get a 61 Les Paul SG Standard is beyond cool, it sounds so great and those pickups are beautiful and versatile, more poop and clarity than the dimarzio pafs in my hybrid strat, ive owned quite a few axes but this is the funnest to play and best bang for your buck, thanks epiphone!!!
I got a true friday example of these! Saw its flamed, bookmatched two piece boston the local guitar store… light as a feather. Couldnt resist!!! Promise you that at least mine are competing with the gib anyday. Have had a gibson sg earlier and this epiphone is way beyond that one when it comes to quality. Only thing ive done isto switch for classic locking tuners (cause Im lazy) not really needed!
An amazing red beauty! Buy one✨
i think this epi is fantastic value ,
Liked and Subscribed all the way from Mexico, good Sir! Down right honest review, really dig it. I've a soft spot for Epiphone as my first electric was an Epi, and now I've got four lying around! (SG G-400 among them). Really glad to see they're killing it, making great guitars, and that more people are enjoying them. Have you tried a Casino? That is one sweet, sweet guitar.
Just bought this guitar as my very first SG. Took one of my favorite guitar straps to the store to test the balance as many SG's are notoriously neck heavy. Plus I've never been a fan of the front guitar strap pin at the base of the neck. Surprisingly...or maybe not, this guitar is very well balanced. Perhaps a little hint of neck dive and very little if any of the feeling of it falling away from the body due to the front strap pin placement. I really like the neck profile and the overall feel and sound of the guitar. I'm just about to change the lousy strings, the fretboard definitely needs conditioning and the action and relief need adjusted too. Also the screws on the tuners needed tightening. I'm in Canadastan and got this on sale for around $350 off retail and considering the fantastic quality of the guitar, the Gibson pickups which sell for around $200 each up here, the quality electronics, decent hardshell and good balance it was a no brainer.
Congratulations, my friend, sounds like you got a great deal. I'm really glad you like the guitar. Rock On!!! 🤘
When a guitar is neck heavy you can always combat that by wrapping part of the guitar cable around the bottom of the strap, this is how the pros do it.
@kirkhunter146 pros do that to prevent the jack from pulling out of the guitars output. I fail to see how it would effect the balance of a neck heavy guitar. Using a strap that isn't slick ,on the other hand, is something that pros will do. Some have gone so far as to stick skateboard grip tape to their strap. Personally, I think that's a bit extreme, but it has been done.
I have 2 epiphone LPs and got to play a friend's Gibson LP. There is a reason Gibsons cost more with a caviat. It depends on the year of the Gibson. Epiphones seem to get better, while Gibsons tend to have better years than others.
Heya Mike, great video. I really like mine also, great to see the vid review!
Great review. I always wanted an SG. I didn't want to spend 2 Grand on one. I saw this with Gibson pickups, electronics, cool hardshell case, and on sale for $799. I bought it. I have too many great guitars already and I'm very picky. I love this guitar. It sounds great, plays great, looks great. It's a super alternative to buying a Gibson with a story all its own.
Yup, it's a fantastic guitar.
Hey Grumpy, Well I have to get this guitar because it's the same year I was born, and I don't even play the guitar, I play the Cowbell, Now Get Off My Lawn you kids !!!
Nice one, sir! I have the Epi '61 Custom, which is the next step down from yours. It has the 3-piece neck and Epi Probucker pups. It didn't come with a case, but I bought a nice EpiLite case for it for $89. I think the Custom is @ $649 right now. The Custom is Ebony, so I can't see the heel or the scarf joint anyway, so it doesn't matter to me. I love my SG. Glad you like yours.
You’re a cool dude and I’m going to take your word on this one. Im just a click away from buying a mint one for $500 used with the case also mint. What do you think? For a nice price and certainly alot cheaper than the Gibson I’m thinking it’s a deal? Also, just got the Fender player tele 2 HH and I’m really liking it. The rosewood is back and man I love it. The Sire’s are coming out look sweet too!
That sounds like a great price, just make sure it is the "Inspired By Gibson Custom" model. The best way to be sure is the cavity cover on the back. Also, make sure the truss rod cover says Les Paul.
But, I'm sure you probably already know all of that. Thanks for watching the video.
Nice playing. Dig that opening riff!
I played one of thse at GC in St Louis while I was supposed to be Les Paul shopping and I kept going back to it. Sounded really good through that Marshall DSL40!
Solid vid. Really good demo, thanks!!
Hey,Mike great review I have a 2000 SG g-400 that i made a 61,nothing wrong with Epiphones,Cheers! studio is looking great!
Thank you for making an honest and straightforward review. That guitar will serve you every bit as well as the Gibson. I plan to buy this in White. Thanks again and I just subscribed.
Thanks for the sub. Please let me know what you think of that beautiful white SG once you get it. Peace ✌️
Hey Grumpy, I recently bought a Gibson Sg Special . And I must be around your age, so these eyes of mine ain’t what they used to be. And I never noticed the tone nibs .
Ya the secret is in those nibs. Ha, Ha.
I like that Sg ur strumming on, I’ve been looking at those myself. Keep on Rockin Man.
Great review! It's encouraging Epiphone quality is as good as you described.
Wow I'm really late to this Epi 61 SG review, thanks! Used cherry like yours just showed up at a local store, and I've been wanting an SG with Gibson Burstbuckers (I'd prefer 1,2 but I'll take 2,3). The 61 Gibson SG Standard now have BB1,2 but they're 3x the price of this used one, so this seems like a no brainer.
I really like mine too, plays great and sounds so good! Great review!
Hi Mike,
Excellent guitars👍Ive had the white version for a while and I prefer it to my Gibson.
If you get a chance to try a Epiphone SG Special P-90, Faded Pelham Blue ? Do it’s also a brilliant inspired by Gibson guitar.👍🍺
I have an Epi SG Special P-90. I did a video.
@@grumpymikeguitar Ah I forgotten you did that video 😳I bought the ebony black standard and a red vibrato 61 also.I had a bit of a SG binge last year after watching Colin the guitaristas deep dive Friday videos.
Have you tried the Epiphone white Billie Joe Armstrong LP Junior?
It’s a excellent guitar and comes in a black hard case with leopard print lining.The new Gibson version comes in a awesome fluorescent pink chainsaw case 👍🤣😂
I had a Gibson SG Standard, and currently have the Epiphone SG '61 Standard. MUCH prefer the Epiphone. Better frets, better neck. Infinitely better playing guitar than the Gibson I had. I LOATHE tiny frets with binding over the ends.
I have to admit I am torn between an Epiphone SG Standard, the Epiphone 1961 SG (the one with Gibson pickups) and a full blown SG. I just played around with a Gibson SG Standard in the local Guitar Center and I have to admit that one felt special. I compared it to a couple of Epiphone 61 Standards (not the Gibson pickups) and to be honest the main differences were the body carving and the setup. The Gibson was set up very well, the Epis were both high but I could fix that. The Gibson was $1599 though and the Epis were $584. The reason I am tempted to go with the Epi with the Gibson pickups is I have the Epiphone 59 LP and it is a great guitar which also has the same Gibson pickups. The only real benefit I see to the Gibson over that higher end Epi is the resale value should you ever want or need to sell. The Gibson will definitely hold value better.
Yes, the Gibson will retain more of its value. That is just a fact. However, I have to say that I've noticed lately that MIM Fenders, higher end Epiphones, and even Squiers are holding better on the used market that they ever used to. That's not to say that they will ever do as well, or even better than their U.S. made counterparts. And, it's no secret that the quality of the imports have come way up in the last 4 or 5 years.
Ultimately, you must decide if resale value and having that Gibson logo on the headstock is important enough to you to justify the higher price. That said, in my humble opinion, you can't go wrong with the Inspired By Gibson Custom 61 LP SG. It is absolutely a fantastic guitar. Even if I someday bought the Gibson model, I'd still probably keep my Epi. I love it that much.
Thanks for watching the video and commenting. I really appreciate it.
@@grumpymikeguitar I actually went back to get the Gibson. It was marked $400 off and they gave me another $100 off too. So it was only half the premium you would normally expect to pay. Heard a lot about Gibson quality over the years but this one is great.
@davva360 Awesome!!! Can't pass a deal up like that. CONGRATS! The rest is up to you. Rock the hell out that thing!!!
Best thing that happened was JC curliegh restoring Epiphone back to top professional quality in 2019..what norlin destroyed JC curliegh restored
Just sent an SG back. Huge back bow. Loosening the truss rod by less than half a turn caused the truss rod nut to protrude out of the guitar to the point you couldn't get the truss rod cover back on. Very high end 😆
@booshting3520 Oh no 😬! Which model of SG? Was it an Epi or a Gibson? This is the first time I've ever heard of this issue.
@grumpymikeguitar It was the Epiphone Tony Iommi Signature model. Super high action, they must have cranked the truss rod into back bow to hide the cello like action. It should have never left the factory.
@booshting3520 yup, that one clearly slipped past QC.
Hello Grumpy, My first time here.
I bought this bad boy 2 months ago. I paid $549. Now it's 900.00. I like it better than all my guitars. I doubled my money in 2 months.
Are you sure you bought the Inspired By Gibson Custom version because it has never been priced at $549???
Cool review. I only have a Gibson SG, actually a satin natural SG Special, and a Lyle Japanese SG knock-off. I actually picked up the Gibson for $700 brand new right before J.C. moved Gibson's focus into trademark trollery. I was just then looking at my second Gibson, trying to decide betweeen another SG ('60s reissue, pretty much the same as this SG) or a bass; haven't bought anything from the Gibson empire since (although I have guarded hopes for Caesar's leadership.) So those Epi prices look absolutely insane to me even though I love SG style guitars. I'm really trying not to buy Chinese guitars nowadays, although I may well pick up an IYV SG-style (I love Vietnam.) Maybe that Gibson '60s reissue SG. Mo' debinitely not a $1,000 Chinese Epiphone SG (although I do love my Chinese-built Epiphone Wildkat) but I can admit that the Chinese are doing very good work and that SG sounds great. (Ditto with the Indonesians who aren't pointing nukes at me.) That case looks like it's lined with Pepto Bismol lol.
Pink is my favorite color , just think about for a minute or two .
Wow, that was some BRIGHT pink in the case. Thanks for the honest review, Grumpy Mike. How was the setup when you got it?
The stup was good. I tweeked it just a bit, but overall, I was happy with it right out of the box.
Hi mate , I got one early this year , and I too think its incredible value for money ! just subbed too , sorry I thought I had a sub to your channel already
No worries, thanks for the sub. 👍🤘
ive got one these i really love it
I’m really trying to think about what to sell to get one of these. Also, I can’t decide between the red or the white one. White is usually a bit flashy for my taste but it looks so good in person on this guitar.
All I can say is, go for the one the calls to you the loudest. Either way, I don't think you can go wrong.
SG's are my favorite guitar. I now own 2. A gibson SG Standard in dark cherry. And Epi inspired Gibson in white. Love them both.
Excellent review and demo! Love your playing, Mike. No nonsense comments about the minimal difference between this and its Gibson counterpart are greatly appreciated! If I didn't already have 2 very nice Epiphone SGs (cherry red and pelham blue) I might go get this one right now, based on your review alone! But I'll grit my teeth and stay away from the "BUY NOW" button…I think…I hope…maybe.
Come on, you know you want to do it. 🤣
Thanks for the kind words.
@@grumpymikeguitar Oh, no doubt - I want to, Mike! My wife already thinks that I'm hopelessly addicted to, er, um, procuring guitars. If she sees another one appear, she may have me committed. And you're not helping at all!
Just blame it on me. The wife will understand. 🤣
Great vid Mike! You know - these used to be $849 not too long ago. I bought one new in December for $750 and now they are $949 new - thats just crazy!!! You can buy a Gibson SG Tribute new for $1299 and pick one up used for $800. Epiphone is playing a dangerous game with their price hikes it seems.
I would add also - I do agree with your assessment of the guitar. I have Gibsons and Epiphones. This Epi is great quality. It looks great, feels great, plays great and sounds great. If I had to buy it again at todays prices (and without a discount), I would pay the $949. Its worth it - without the Gibson comparison - compared to other brands at this price point, it holds up.
Yeah I remember I bought my Gibson sg faded in 2015 for only $400 used at guitar center and my 61 reissue was only $1200 used. Prices are crazy nowadays all across the board. Only Squier and Harley Benton are realistic nowadays with their prices
@@coreycann6751 I just bought a used Gibson LP Studio 60s tribute w/P90s in Cherry Sunburst for $750, cleaned up some small finish issues, replaced the knobs (2 were broken) and replaced the cracked plastic jack plate on it. I have 2 buddies that want it - trying to get me to sell it for $1200. Studios are $1700 new now - prices have gotten out of control and players (like us) are pushing them because we'll pay those prices.
Well with the Gibson SG Tribute you're getting so so pickups, not BurstBucker or the high quality electronics that are on the Epiphone.
@@racesla I agree, but it still says Gibson on the headstock which makes a difference to most people; quality of sound aside. My Epi has burstbuckers, trapezoid inlays, and neck binding and it will never fetch the same used price as a stripped down SG Tribute...bummer.
Nice review.I'm having one shipped to me as I write.So your review was music to my ears.Pardon the pun.
Please let me know what you think of it once you had a chance to try it out.
Good video, and like the new setup too!
Great video !!! thinking of buying one, thanks
These need bass turned up higher than treble to approximate Gibson tone. Great little guitar. Keep away from Harley Benton. Pay the extra bucks. No mods needed. Feels real too. And it weighs 6.5 lb. instead of HB at 9.
Not into pink for guitar case liner either . But she can sure sing .
I would never sell my Epiphones for any Gibson
@user-cl3re8xi7y Well, I'm wouldn't necessarily say better than a Gibson. I would simply say that in a blind comparison, the vast majority of players would have a very hard time telling which is which. Appearance wise, the Gibsons are definitely better. They use more expensive wood with better woodgrain etc. The other important issue is that the Epi is not going to retain value like the Gibson. All that aside, though, this Epi is definitely bang for the buck.
@@user-cl3re8xi7y Thanks, I really appreciate that.
@@grumpymikeguitar there better than Gibson
@FrankBuyers...guitarista-iu3zg can't say that I agree, maybe very close to "as good," but they are not better. I strongly caution you to not fall into the myth that poor Gibson quality is a widespread thing. That is total BS. In the last 40 years, I've found just as many problems with new American made Fenders as I have with Gibsons. I know it's immensely popular to rag on Gibson, but that why you really shouldn't believe everything you read. If they were really as bad as hype merchant's exclaim, Gibson would have gone out of business 30 years ago. Instead, Gibson remains an industry standard and for good reason. They are, as they have always been, really good guitars.
My point in this very is merely to highlight the glorious fact that Gibson has chosen to really up the game when it come to the Epiphone line. This is awesome news for folks like myself who yearn for a more affordable guitar of comparable quality.
It's the more superior fret job that separates Gibson from Epiphone. That alone determines the overall tone and feel of a high quality guitar.
As I said in the video, the frets on this guitar are fantastic. They were level and well polished right out of the box. Gibson can't claim any point in the fretwork department on this one.
So far, my JJN gold glory and aj Silverburst are of excellent quality. Definitely puch as well as my Gibsons. Especially for the money.
Funnily enough, I dislike signature guitars. Goes to show. Lol
Correction that would be 6 months ago. I also bought a Epiphone Les Paul classic $500 unfortunately the party is over
Had a epiphone riveara in1965 it was quality then,the guild starfire 2 was a great one too.
Fantastic video! I own one of these and love it. I had a Gibson Les Paul Tribute before it with the 490R/490T pickups, and this sounds better.
You’re dead on with the case - it’s good, but the hard case that came with my Gibson SG Special is definitely better.
I, myself, like the satin finishes versus the glossy. I just like how they feel in the hand when playing better. I know that’s a personal thing, but, to me, it’s just more comfortable.
I LOVE the tuners on it. They’re rock solid on mine. They’re just great.
Subscribed because you are always on KYG
It sounds good!
Thanks Mike
Great video Mike! You have a new subscriber 👍
Thanks for the sub. 🤘
If you had to choose this new Epi 61 SG vs a used Gibson SG Standard 61, which would you recommend? Thanks for the great review
I doubt I could find a used Gibson in good condition for $900, but if I could, I would buy it.
Dug that intro riff Mike!
Good look at a cool guitar
Pao ferro isnt a cheap wood and it’s not bad that fender use it. It was viewed as an upgrade on rosewood for decades before fender made the switch and shur uses it on v high end guitars. On the fender srv model the price was once justified by the fact it had a ferro board. If anything it’s a good thing they use high end figured ferro on the mim range to replace rosewood bc its not a lesser material.
Additionally, im not sure id be comfortable taking any gibson guitar to a gigging scenario bc thats how they get damaged and broken. Rockstars could do it bc theyre rockstars but mostly the gibsons belong in studios to record with. For actually using live id take smthg like this all day long.
No argument with what you say. I just think pao ferro looks like crap.
Just bought an Epiphone SG Standard 61. Disappointed how the frets were not polished.
Great review!
Pretty good guitar playing
I'm sure it's better than a lot of Gibson SGs , not all of them.
All I can say is, when I play it, it feels like I'm playing a Gibson and it sounds like I'm playing a Gibson. And, to your point, the build quality just might be better than some Gibsons. It has certainly diminished my lust for a Gibson 61 LP reissue tremendously.
All the tone comes from the nibs. American nibs.
Thank you and goodnight.
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Sorry, but that pink in the case is just too much! Great demo, Mike!
Apart from looks, wood is wood.
By definition, yes, however, not all wood is suitable for guitars. Some wood is too heavy. Some wood is too soft. In this case, though, you are correct, the variety of mahogany makes no real difference.
Is it really a two piece body? My understanding was these have a two piece veneer on the top so looking at the top doesn't tell you anything. Looking at the lower edge of the guitar, it will be obvious where the seams are. Also, it sounds like your action is adjusted a little too low. Raising it just a little will give you better sustain.
Yes, it is a 2 piece body and no veneer. This is different from the Epi SG Standard. I should have also mentioned that it is a satin finish.
@grumpymikeguitar how would you rate the epi SG standard, with the big pickguard?
@@LiteralApe I have only spent 8 or 10 minutes playing one at my local GC. It played and sounded good. I just didn't care for the way they did the veneer. It just didn't look right.
I know, that's a purely ecstatic thing, but it's really the only reason I didn't buy one.
I have this guitar in white , and I have the ‘59 Les Paul inspired by Gibson , both are amazing guitars , I’ve had the chance to buy a Gibson or buy these two guitars , I chose these over the Gibson. I’m very satisfied with my choice.
But since they are made in China , If I want a Gibson , I’ll just buy a Chibson and put some better internals , still won’t be a true Gibson but I won’t be spending thousands on something I don’t play that much. I’m a drummer but I love guitars. I have them for the people I play with in case they don’t have a guitar or didn’t bring theirs with them. I have four Les Paul’s and one strat and my white SG. I’m not gonna pay for a name , and yeah they do hold value and some increase in value , but I’m okay with what I have , I don’t try to sell my stuff anyway.
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Epiphone has been making some really good guitars. The gap between Gibson and Epiphone has gotten much narrower in the past few years. And, with the Inspired By Gibson Custom guitars, that gap is downright tiny. I would, however, urge you to stay away from the Chibsons. There's no need for that.
Thanks for checking out the video! 🎸🤘✌️
wow that one's nice and rawnchy
Nibs are a hinderance not an advantage when playing though I would agree that they look more aesthetically pleasing. Loads of different woods are called Mahogany manufacturers use locally sourced woods where ever you go in the World. There is no study that I'm aware of that has definitively proven that the wood a solid body guitar is made from has a significant impact on the sound it produces, its really all about the pickups and wiring, caps and pots used that will have the biggest impact along with the players ability which is the most important factor. The number of Gibson's owners I've seen who are half arsed players reflects a shocking waste of money IHMO. Guitarists should spend more time on getting a better teacher or practicing than on expensive Gibsons. Having a good set up is more important than the wood a guitar is made from in terms of playability and the sound it produces. Its better to have a mediocre case than none at all, Gibson Tribute and studio models which are more expensive than the guitar featured dont come with any sort of hard case.
I'd much prefer pau ferro to laurel. it's smoother and easier to play, with great tone. laurel looks rough on the guitars I've seen it on.
Next week Coke vs Pepsi......but without any Coke just the Pepsi
You know there is an Armadillo on your head?
His name is Clyde
Of course it's not....when it's all you can afford, then it doesn't matter. It's all you got so it might as well be the best.
Better than Gibson no one buys into the Gibson bs anymore..for one we All know now that the solid body Les Paul actually began in the Epiphone new York facility with Les Paul.. Gibson had nothing to do with the original concept
To the contrary. I have been a Gibson fan since I was a kid. They really are fantastic guitars. I honestly believe that Gibson doesn't deserve 90% of the bad rap it gets. Have there been QC issues? Sure, but, in reality, I've found just as many, if not more with Fenders.
Somewhere along the line, it became fashionable to bash Gibson. Personally, I think it has something to do with the fact that Gibsons cost so much more. However, most folks don't take into account the set necks, binding, inlays, and a few other things, simply cost more to produce. But, I get it, if I'm paying that much, it should be perfect.
The real issue here is the fact that import guitars have gotten so much better than they used to be, and they seem to be continually getting better. That's an awesome thing for all of us financially challenged folks and is certainly a reason to celebrate.
@@grumpymikeguitar the Quindoe Epiphone facility is state of the art and completely American owned and operated by Gibson/Epiphone Scott Lewis is the facility manager along with American and Asian luthiers..
@@grumpymikeguitarGibson fatal mistake was trying to sue everyone on copyright infringement and they failed miserably what that did was make a lot of people do research to find out why Gibson wasn't winning and guess what everyone found..they found that Gibson has been full of crap for decades especially there invention claims..
My epiphone riviera was Madie by gibson 1966, does gibson own epiphone by way of norlin.?either way l have a gibson sg standard I bought in 2020. Its flawless inevery way except for the so called case which is a real piece of spit in my face,for 1779! THAT IS WAY TOO MUCH AND NO CASE,,,! I GOT MINE FOR 1600, BUT THEY WERE 325 IN 1966,, BRAND NEW WITH CASE..
Yes, Gibson owns Epiphone and, at one point, Norlin owned Gibson. Probably not Gibson's best period of time, but it is part of the history.
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SRV HAD PAU FERRO ON A STRAT. IF IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR STEVIE.
ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ANYONE.
Not for me.
Fret Nibs, something Gibson puts over their frets so they don't have to spend time filing and polishing frets. People think there great, but I think it's the cheap way to do frets.
Do aome research on Sapele mahogany. It's superior African. Tighter grain.. Heavier.
The short answer is NO.
Can I assume you've played both?
Yah..at the moment I have 3 epis,and 4 Gibsons. Epis are nice,and perfectly fine guitar's, but they are no Gibson. Or so I think anywho. For what that's worth lol.
More specifically though I've played the 61 epi, but not the Gibson counterpart. So I am just assuming in that regard.
@@jordanpratt3821 I would encourage you to give this guitar a try. I have a feeling, if you were blindfolded and handed both guitars, you would be unable to tell which was which.
Perhaps
No the tone is in the breaking of the traditional GIBSON HEADSTOCK!
Battle scares are a symbol of lessons learned. 🤘
Mine is monhognoy and i have played them all a hogh end epi os beyter rhsn a low end Gibson ..gibson is mass prpduced ypu gotta find those old ones modded
Only 3 latches my god what a disgrace😂😂😂
Your attempt at sarcasm isn't lost on me, however, what it tells me is you must have never gigged or traveled with a guitar. Otherwise, you would understand the importance of a sturdy, well built case. The Epiphone case is neither.
American made means nothing in relation to QC 😂 most American stuff is no better than any other countries in the world....Yank stuff ain't special tbh
Not gonna disagree. There are quite a lot of imports that are as good or even better. Well, that is right up until you take that big depreciation hit when you decide to sell it to get that next guitar. Not saying that it should be that way, but the fact is that USA made guitars hold value far more than their import counterparts. If I bought the Gibson version of this guitar at the same time I got this Epi, I could now sell that Gibson for very close to what I paid. For the Epi, I'm gonna take a 2 or 3 hundred dollar hit, minimum.
I have nothing against imports. The vast majority of my guitars are imports. That said, there is a difference between having the real thing as opposed to the knockoff. You may like the knockoff as much or even more than the real (authentic 🤣) guitar, but, down the road, when/if you decide to sell or trade to get that "next step up" guitar, the import is gonna put a big ol frownny face 😩 on your head
This guitar is made in China by Gibson… there is no way Gibson are going to allow its Chinese facility to come anywhere near a Nashville made product. As good as it maybe (especially for the price!) It’s nowhere near a Nashville SG - It never will be. If you want the real deal, save your money. If not, then that’s cool, but in no way shape or form is it as good as a Gibson SG.
Sorry, but I've played a crap ton of Gibson SGs in my day, and that's going back 40+ years. This Epi is just about as close as you can get.
BTW, I'm guessing you've never even picked one of these up, sooo...
@@grumpymikeguitar Ok where to start! - The body of the Epiphone isn’t the correct size or shape, the Gibson is thinner and more delicate in detail.
Including the neck the Epiphone is made out of at least 6 pieces of ‘mahogany’ and 2 thin veneers from an unknown source and probably not ‘real’ mahogany. The Gibson is made from 3 pieces of sourced ‘real’ mahogany - very different tone woods.
The metal items on the Epiphone are cheap ‘pot metal’ and are heavy. The Gibsons are light alloy which is far better for sustain. The Plastics are cheaper than the Gibsons as are all the screws. The frets are not the same on the Epi, much lower grade steel. Of course usually the pick ups are inferior, but obviously not on this particular one you have.
The paint and the finishing are just not in the same league, Gibsons are not covered in a layer of plastic. Gibsons hold or increase in value, Epiphones don’t.
I like you have been playing for over 40 years, and I own both Gibsons and Epiphones (I just bought an Epi TV Yellow special and it’s great!) In fact it’s the only Epiphone I’ve ever bought that has a neck that comes close to a Gibson. They are great for the money, but they are not Gibsons, really.. not even close.
You asked ‘as good as a Gibson?’ The answer is no - no it’s not.
@TheVoosters it would appear that you don't understand the difference between the standard Epiphones and the Inspired By Gibson Custom Epiphones. They are very different and the vast majority of what you have stated here has absolutely nothing to do with this guitar. I highly recommend you actually try one. Better yet, do a blindfolded test. I have a feeling you wouldn't be able to tell which is which.
If you ayed both guitars blindfolded and not allowed to feel up the headstock, I doubt seriously that you could tell which was which. Yes, you may think you could, but thinking something and actually being able to are two completely different things.
And besides, I feel 100% confident that you've missed the entire point of the video. The actual point is that Epiphones are becoming guitars that should be taken seriously.
Why would anyone want to help you, make money
Make money? Who's making money? Not really sure what you're referring to, but on average, I spend hundreds out of my own pocket for each video. I've never asked for or been offered free stuff from any manufacturer or retailer. This is a hobby and I sure as hell ain't making any money.
That said, I also spend money on supporting other creators via Super Chats, Super Thanks, and Patreon simply because I enjoy their videos, as well as appreciate the many hours of work it takes to produce that video, and want to support them so they can continue to do what they do.
Also, it's been I while since I made this video, but I'm pretty sure I haven't ever asked anyone to do anything other than sub, like, and share the video. However, a while back, I did activate the Super Thanks button on my videos, but I've never once even mentioned it. If someone wants to support my work, I am extremely grateful. As my friend, China Mike (God rest his soul), used to say, "Never requested, but always appreciated."
Maybe you can enlighten me on the meaning of your question because I haven't got a clue what you're on about.