I love your ability to understand cadence and explain it. A lot of talented musicians don't even understand theory. A lot of theorists can't make music. You are gifted.
@@arianswets8513Music college. But I gotta say, it was mostly my theory and classical professors who had doctorates on their walls and practiced technique, but mid-level overall talent at best. Most of the jazz/modern music teachers had a Master's, if that, but way outclassed the others in terms of talent and ability. Luckily, I did audio engineering and jazz studies so I only had those teachers for a few classes, but I know a lot of people who switched majors because of it. That's not everywhere, for sure, but it's way more common than it should be. Berklee and Jiulliard and them need to figure out a way to not be so goddamn expensive, but if you're a performer and not an engineer or producer or something, those are some of the few places I think you're better off going to school than just investing in getting a really good private teacher for the same amount of time. But yeah, it's an unfortunately common thing in the academic side of music.
@@Gbd331 I'm pretty chill.... I know it isn't complicated but a lot of people can't understand it. I was giving props to a good teacher. Maybe you should chill lol
As someone who's been writing and rapping for about 5 years I don't write the emphasis. I usually end up re-reading every line I write naturally like 80 times so I end up memorizing it before I even rap it so I never have to rehearse. It's not something I go out of my way to do either. When writing it's a good habit to constantly start from the first line and work your way up to what you have so far before you write more because it'll show you the mistakes that you made and help you find what's a natural progression for your flow to turn into for your next line.
As a bass player, I'll tell you. Learn to count time. Buy a metronome and just count and then divide it out. The greats do it without realizing thier doing it. Unfortunately, not ever one just has that skill. It took me a year just to master time, but once I learned it was so much better because I could switch time and still stay in time. I know it sounds crazy but there's videos we're he does it. This might sound like the longest way, but it's the most foolproof way, and it builds on your music theory and puts you head and shoulders above other people who can't.
Real i was thinking the same thing. It’s like polymeteres. it feels so cool to do a triplet fill like that with emphasis in different places (3,4,5) etc.
@@--.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.2508honestly I’m not certain the exact definition of syncopation but yeah i would feel fine calling it that. I just think my brain just understands it better by working out the actual polymetric structure of the bar
@@o.j.79 not only are you not a genius, you're downright slow. If you weren't, you would know that whether the term genius is overused or not has no bearing whatsoever on the question of whether any particular person is a genius.
Sick man! I did an assignment recently analysing MMTBS through the scope of attachment theory. First time ever I was genuinely hyped for an essay lol. I wanna read that thesis too when it's finished
@@muddystick thats actually a 'back'cronym, which was made up after rap was already a word used to refer to the genre, rap just meant to speak with someone before that, iirc
I dare say that you are one of the biggest nerds in hip-hop and I'm loving it. In depth knowledge of the underpinnings, multiple flows, and intricate wordplay. You've got a bright future, my man. I I'm looking forward to seeing how your music continues to evolve and flip the script.
3 - bragging feel 4 - political/moral feel 5 - I don't know how to describe it.. feels like the type of rap which is a humble brag or some kind of specific diss/critique 6 - diss feel
BRUH your channel is next level. As an emcee myself, you have the best analyses I've seen online and it's _because you're an emcee too._ Imma tell folks about you
It’s called a hemiola, where the time signature is the same but the emphasis on the notes makes it sound like triplets/duplets/quintuplets/etc. It’s a very cool trick in classical music, Chopin uses it a lot. Kendrick also uses it in Alright during the second(?) verse
Jazz and rap are closer to each other than people realize! This is something drummers do a lot or even horn players in the their phrasing. Black American music is so important thanks for breaking this down
Cheers to even knowing aesop. It's like pulling teeth finding people who even know who he is let alone not getting him confused with trash ASAP Rocky. I was so mad when that joke came out. I'm always like a-e-s-o-p spelling the shit like the song
As a drummer I’m totally into this stuff, since this is what we like to do: shifting different patterns through all different tuplets 🔥 Great flow, bro!
I’m a percussionist, but this makes perfect sense. It’s essentially polymeter; the accompaniment stays the same while the melody changes time signatures. It’s a very interesting concept.
this is actually so cool cuz like. this is literally what people praise shakespeare for! this is what people mean when they talk about iambic pentameter, except with that lines are always ten syllables long, emphasizing every other beat starting on the second. da DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM. and yes i know i know it’s different, but language evolves in such a cool way and i love how that understanding of beat and flow passes down from person to person even tho we don’t call it that anymore. language is so COOL
Yo man. This was a great display of what emphasis can do. I'm used to doing vocals on hardcore (punk) / metal, and timing and emphasis can make a hell of a difference in power there - emphasizing the band's accents to get a bigger effect out of them, or purposely emphasizing other aspects of the beat & melody instead. I have a lot of respect for rappers, as the responsibility for the tension comes down mostly to the lyricist in question (there are exceptions of course - when producer and rapper are playing off eachother, and literally writing and tweaking both the beat and the lyrics to match eachother. But a lot of times it's a dope beat, and it's up to the vocalist to take it to a next level) I've done similar versions of what you show here on several tracks - it's a good way to make a second verse sound different from the first; to keep it interesting. Also: dope rhymes, man. Cheers from Amsterdam (yes, THAT Amsterdam)
I’m going crazy trying to count syllables listening to that song rn. He keeps going back and forth between 4 and 5 with some emphasis on 6. Idk if I’m interpreting it right but he seems to switch the flow a lot
Great! It’s rare on my feed to see theory based breakdowns of rap, it’s great how a steady stream of 1/8 notes can take such a different form based on the emphasis you place. As a bass player, I think much the same way when trying to make a steady bassline more interesting
All advanced drummers have practiced this for years and I hear it in everything. This is a masterful exhibition to put together relevant lyrics that intentionally displays this rhythmic principle.
I’m a metalcore nerd trying to broaden my tastes, could you point out Busta Rhymes’ “signature move” for those of us not in the know? Do you have any favorite Busta Rhymes songs you’d recommend? Thanks 🙏 😊
@@ViktoryDragonif you want to hear the epitome of Busta, I recommend Break ya Neck or Why Stop Now, but his verse on Scenario by a Tribe Called Quest (the last verse in case you want to just skip to it) is fantastic, but I don't know what he meant by his signature move
This is so good on so many levels. From a technical stand point it's so flawlessly done. A lot of rappers just putting words together. This ain't that.
3 is for a catchy song 4 is for activism 5 is for bragging 6 is like 3 but a little more down to earth (Obviously you can use any of these for any type of song you want, this is just what they sound like to me :)
Broooo this is sooooo dope I'm so glad these videos found me. I've always thought how awesome it would be if rappers deliberately studied the rhythm of different flows, and this just shows that it's even cooler than I thought. Much love!
To keep the rhythm he spead up when progressing from 3 to 4 and 4 to 5, but because 6 is divisible by 3, he reverted back to the speed of 3 syllables but the rhythm pattern was elongated to a less frequent emphasis. This is the difference between a rapper and a rap artist.
As a drummer, that 5 on triplets is a real trip and dope! Add that to the fact that you displaced both the 4 and 5 to start at different points to end cleanly. Lyrics on point too!
3 Migos/ATL
4 & 5 Eminem/Kendrick
6 J.Cole
I kinda saw this too
3 is literally the same flow on middle child
@@davidbass5115 J.Cole does the 6 flow more
Absolutely
Jcole and JID*
I love your ability to understand cadence and explain it. A lot of talented musicians don't even understand theory. A lot of theorists can't make music. You are gifted.
This so perfectly stated my thoughts. Such an effective and entertaining form of teaching.
A theorist that can't make music? Where you find those
@@arianswets8513Music college. But I gotta say, it was mostly my theory and classical professors who had doctorates on their walls and practiced technique, but mid-level overall talent at best. Most of the jazz/modern music teachers had a Master's, if that, but way outclassed the others in terms of talent and ability. Luckily, I did audio engineering and jazz studies so I only had those teachers for a few classes, but I know a lot of people who switched majors because of it.
That's not everywhere, for sure, but it's way more common than it should be. Berklee and Jiulliard and them need to figure out a way to not be so goddamn expensive, but if you're a performer and not an engineer or producer or something, those are some of the few places I think you're better off going to school than just investing in getting a really good private teacher for the same amount of time.
But yeah, it's an unfortunately common thing in the academic side of music.
@@sean-in-wnc feel like you kinda missed the point there m8
@@Gbd331 I'm pretty chill.... I know it isn't complicated but a lot of people can't understand it. I was giving props to a good teacher. Maybe you should chill lol
Brooo. That sounded so cool. I want to understand how you put this down and mark it on paper.
Me too
Put a Muted Drum pattern over your real drum pattern,sync that shit and use it as rap flow pattern
As someone who's been writing and rapping for about 5 years I don't write the emphasis. I usually end up re-reading every line I write naturally like 80 times so I end up memorizing it before I even rap it so I never have to rehearse. It's not something I go out of my way to do either. When writing it's a good habit to constantly start from the first line and work your way up to what you have so far before you write more because it'll show you the mistakes that you made and help you find what's a natural progression for your flow to turn into for your next line.
I just capitalize stressed syllables! This is really useful when starting a bar before the downbeat
As a bass player, I'll tell you. Learn to count time. Buy a metronome and just count and then divide it out. The greats do it without realizing thier doing it. Unfortunately, not ever one just has that skill. It took me a year just to master time, but once I learned it was so much better because I could switch time and still stay in time. I know it sounds crazy but there's videos we're he does it. This might sound like the longest way, but it's the most foolproof way, and it builds on your music theory and puts you head and shoulders above other people who can't.
as a drummer this makes perfect sense
Real i was thinking the same thing. It’s like polymeteres. it feels so cool to do a triplet fill like that with emphasis in different places (3,4,5) etc.
@@levigregorytiama5448i don't know anything about music so I'm probably wrong, but isn't that just syncopation?
Yep voice is just an instrument
@@--.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.2508honestly I’m not certain the exact definition of syncopation but yeah i would feel fine calling it that. I just think my brain just understands it better by working out the actual polymetric structure of the bar
Cool man good work
As a prog metal nerd, that was actually pretty sick lol
I'm not a big hip hop fan, but damn this tickles part of my brain as a metalhead
@@mybandpigvomithas3sales200same dude
Prog metal bro 🫡
@@siriusletavernier889 Progheads unite
Hell yeah prog metal head here
Bro turned the vocal part into something that had a more percussive feel to it, the switch up between those patterns was fire
EXACTLyyy, I'm a music producer and I felt that.
i never realised how difficult being an artist is
a lot of artists dont put this much effort into their songs
@@x_potato4081their ghost writers do
Not every artist does this, this guy just inserts some music theory into his flows it's very unique
Until watching this??
@@ni.nz. not even those tho. And majority of rappers cant even rap this technical
Don't think we didn't notice those lyrics bro. You're a genius.
He put them on screen for a reason
A genius? People throw this word around now days with no clue what it means.
@@o.j.79 sounds like someone's a little upset nobody ever called them a genius, and nobody ever will
@@sfdntk you are correct I am not a genius, I understand the definition of the term. Do you think it is overused?
@@o.j.79 not only are you not a genius, you're downright slow. If you weren't, you would know that whether the term genius is overused or not has no bearing whatsoever on the question of whether any particular person is a genius.
Rap ALWAYS gets really interesting when performed and/or analyzed by actual musicians
This is the kind of material I need for my thesis on K Dot’s raps, god damn
Bro you gotta link the thesis when it’s done that sounds cool
You’re writing a thesis on Kendrick?! I love it… how much is the science/mathematics of the music vs the subject matter itself? Sounds fascinating..
Sick man! I did an assignment recently analysing MMTBS through the scope of attachment theory. First time ever I was genuinely hyped for an essay lol. I wanna read that thesis too when it's finished
my friends writing a paper on eminems mtbmb and the lyrical complextities and story writing, ts boutta go hard
Listen to Dissect (podcast). Cole cuchna has done a thesis on kdots songs.
This is called "Meter," in poetry.
It is rapping too, since rap literally means "rhythm and poetry".
Rap follows the rules of poetic meter just like any lyrical music.
@@muddystick thats actually a 'back'cronym, which was made up after rap was already a word used to refer to the genre, rap just meant to speak with someone before that, iirc
@@muddystick God I hate backronyms. Just look up the etymology for goodness sake.
@@muddysticki really appreciate someone who recognizes this
my mans just introduced odd meter and polyrhythmic integration into the rap game with one youtube short.
Nerd talk
@@w花b -🤓
it’s been there for decades
Dude, if you think this is groundbreaking, listen to any one JID track it’ll blow your mind
people have always been doing this kind of stuff
I dare say that you are one of the biggest nerds in hip-hop and I'm loving it.
In depth knowledge of the underpinnings, multiple flows, and intricate wordplay.
You've got a bright future, my man. I I'm looking forward to seeing how your music continues to evolve and flip the script.
3 sounded like da baby flow.
4 and 5 sounded like Kendrick.
6 sounded like Tobe N. Flow.
From the song "fye fye" 🔥
6 gave me Eminem's
4 sound like jid too
@@joaquimmatabelejr3074nah he got it. That's the Fye Fye flow.
@@sherlockhomieBig Sean too
5 sounded like jid
That was cool as hell man
4 sounds like a kendrick song
This is quite honestly awesome.
The 4 definitely gives me Big Sean clique vibes
There's something unsettling about the 5 syllable emphasis, I can't put my finger on it, but I can feel it
The 1 extra syllable sort of makes it off beat in a way
made my brain itch too
Yeah it sounded off
Mfs when they find out about polymeter
Wale likes using this one when he’s “spitting”
so much stuff just started making sense after hearing this
Kendrick and em. I used to do this pattern a lot when i rapped more, years ago now. Being a drummer helped
Nah I love this, this level of anylisis is awesome
3 - bragging feel
4 - political/moral feel
5 - I don't know how to describe it.. feels like the type of rap which is a humble brag or some kind of specific diss/critique
6 - diss feel
I think that might have to do with the text…
Wild, i feel the same, wonder if that comes from associations with rappers lyrics or if its more innate in the structue?!
You’re literally just describing the lyrics
BRUH your channel is next level. As an emcee myself, you have the best analyses I've seen online and it's _because you're an emcee too._ Imma tell folks about you
some kendrick type shit i love it. ur videos are amazing thank you so much
The 4-syllable cycle in triplets is sick as fuck, such a bouncy groove. The 5 is also really cool too.
It’s called a hemiola, where the time signature is the same but the emphasis on the notes makes it sound like triplets/duplets/quintuplets/etc. It’s a very cool trick in classical music, Chopin uses it a lot. Kendrick also uses it in Alright during the second(?) verse
Go home, you are drunk.
Jazz and rap are closer to each other than people realize! This is something drummers do a lot or even horn players in the their phrasing. Black American music is so important thanks for breaking this down
wtf are you talking about bro
yussir
@nickDOTbloc did you not watch the video? What are you confused by?
My jazz teachers would have slapped the shit out of me if all I ever played was triplets like modern rappers do...
3 and 4 syllables reminds me of certain Aesop Rock songs
Cheers to even knowing aesop. It's like pulling teeth finding people who even know who he is let alone not getting him confused with trash ASAP Rocky. I was so mad when that joke came out. I'm always like a-e-s-o-p spelling the shit like the song
@@TitanScreamboth aesop and rocky r cool dont call rocky trash
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb opinions bro. I'm allowed to have them and express them. You like him cool. He holds no candle to aesop.
@@TitanScream sure homie just say u dont like him no need to call him trash
@@TitanScreamRocky is better lil bro 😂
Bro wtf. That flow is like the rap version of a Bob Ross painting.
Odd numbers have a shorter more direct feel where even are more conversational
Liking this from the intro just for how inventive this concept is. You’re a scientist sir
Man, this sssshhhh go hard.
As a drummer I’m totally into this stuff, since this is what we like to do: shifting different patterns through all different tuplets 🔥
Great flow, bro!
Flows are too 🔥🔥! Gave me NF vibes ✍🏽
The 4:3 goes hard
That first one was j Cole on middle child 😂😂
Hahaaaaa I knew I heard that cadence before thank you 🤣
I’m a percussionist, but this makes perfect sense. It’s essentially polymeter; the accompaniment stays the same while the melody changes time signatures. It’s a very interesting concept.
Kendrickkk he does that shit on dna its absolutely amazing, not as easy as it looks
Respect
Dang as a drummer, hip hop and metal head, this right here is actually so damn clever
this is actually so cool cuz like. this is literally what people praise shakespeare for! this is what people mean when they talk about iambic pentameter, except with that lines are always ten syllables long, emphasizing every other beat starting on the second. da DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM.
and yes i know i know it’s different, but language evolves in such a cool way and i love how that understanding of beat and flow passes down from person to person even tho we don’t call it that anymore. language is so COOL
Yo man. This was a great display of what emphasis can do.
I'm used to doing vocals on hardcore (punk) / metal, and timing and emphasis can make a hell of a difference in power there - emphasizing the band's accents to get a bigger effect out of them, or purposely emphasizing other aspects of the beat & melody instead.
I have a lot of respect for rappers, as the responsibility for the tension comes down mostly to the lyricist in question (there are exceptions of course - when producer and rapper are playing off eachother, and literally writing and tweaking both the beat and the lyrics to match eachother.
But a lot of times it's a dope beat, and it's up to the vocalist to take it to a next level)
I've done similar versions of what you show here on several tracks - it's a good way to make a second verse sound different from the first; to keep it interesting.
Also: dope rhymes, man.
Cheers from Amsterdam (yes, THAT Amsterdam)
4 was definitely the flow to DNA.
yeah true thats what I was thinking
I’m going crazy trying to count syllables listening to that song rn. He keeps going back and forth between 4 and 5 with some emphasis on 6. Idk if I’m interpreting it right but he seems to switch the flow a lot
It’s like he’ll emphasize the fourth syllable, then the fifth, then the sixth, but it changes up across the song
Great! It’s rare on my feed to see theory based breakdowns of rap, it’s great how a steady stream of 1/8 notes can take such a different form based on the emphasis you place. As a bass player, I think much the same way when trying to make a steady bassline more interesting
That Hopkins bar was a bar bar lol
So sick dude you make genuinely entertaining and knowledgeable vids thank you big man
All advanced drummers have practiced this for years and I hear it in everything. This is a masterful exhibition to put together relevant lyrics that intentionally displays this rhythmic principle.
3 and 6 are the most common I'd say. I think they largely sound the best too. Could be different depending on the lyrics/beat though
6 vibes very well with that beat
I honestly think it would be sick to have a song that goes through all these rhythms, more than using just one
Well they're triplets. 😂
better than the majority of mainstream rappers
Bro you doing this Effortlessly🔥🔥🔥.
You got this down to a science and thats the shid i think ks the dopest. Crazy how Take Off used to do this too. Probably why i liked him the most.
Last one is every UK rappers style
Frfr
Dude your voice could read me a bed time story and rap on a murder rap beat at the same time.
Basically a Polymeter, really common in electronic music.
Def makes a difference in the feel. Thanks fr breaking down the science
Effing amazing, spesh everything 4/5 syllable.
Man this was nice it may not be a lengthy vid but bro i know you’ve worked hard as hell to understand music.
6 that freddie gibbs
I love how you show how rap is based in musical concepts.
Cmon didn't anyone peep the Busta rhymes type flow
I’m a metalcore nerd trying to broaden my tastes, could you point out Busta Rhymes’ “signature move” for those of us not in the know? Do you have any favorite Busta Rhymes songs you’d recommend? Thanks 🙏 😊
@@ViktoryDragonif you want to hear the epitome of Busta, I recommend Break ya Neck or Why Stop Now, but his verse on Scenario by a Tribe Called Quest (the last verse in case you want to just skip to it) is fantastic, but I don't know what he meant by his signature move
There’s a reason the great Rakim cites John Coltrane as his inspiration for his flow! This is awesome 👏
3 da baby
4 some Kendrick
5 no one comes to mind
6 killer Mike
5 kinda reminded me of Busta Rhymes when hes not rapping fast
5 to me was instantly eminem if you use your imagination to picture what it would sound like
4 & 5 is def Eminem & and kenny also but he was influenced by Em. Cole uses those kinda flows too, a lot is good example.
That's insane. You just made listening to some of my favorite artists more fun. Thanks.
on the 4th sounds like every JID song lol
On god
This is so good on so many levels. From a technical stand point it's so flawlessly done. A lot of rappers just putting words together. This ain't that.
3 is for a catchy song
4 is for activism
5 is for bragging
6 is like 3 but a little more down to earth
(Obviously you can use any of these for any type of song you want, this is just what they sound like to me :)
Activism? How is 4 activism? I’m curious
@@StoutProper story telling is a better word. To tell something important basically
That was the most interesting thing I've seen all week! Thanks for the breakdown
Joyner Lucas all over the 3x, and I smell Kendrick on the 5x & 6x
Got JID on the 4x
Your breakdowns are amazing. The Lyrical professor...
6 sounds like Joyner Lucas
Bro educating me in so many different ways
Ain’t got a bar to their name like a hyphen
Sweet video! I'm pretty sure NF uses all of these flows in his music!
3 was migos 4 5 6 was eminem
Eminem 🔥
Bro even without the rap your voice is heavenly
4&5 are hard for me to follow - i wonder if it would be easier if had more verses in a row with 4&5 or if the beat was different?
Broooo this is sooooo dope I'm so glad these videos found me. I've always thought how awesome it would be if rappers deliberately studied the rhythm of different flows, and this just shows that it's even cooler than I thought. Much love!
3 J Cole 4 Kendrick
Hey I admire you doing this G for the young mc’s to understand some helpful matters for the music
Dude, that shit was amazing. I don’t care if you’re trying to prove a point, you should just wrap like that and everyone would love it.
“IM HOPKINS, SIR ANTHONY” 🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
6 sound like hopkins
To keep the rhythm he spead up when progressing from 3 to 4 and 4 to 5, but because 6 is divisible by 3, he reverted back to the speed of 3 syllables but the rhythm pattern was elongated to a less frequent emphasis.
This is the difference between a rapper and a rap artist.
4 sounded like m&m 2 me. Could just be me though. Also where did your im guessing south african or new zealand accent go when you started rappin.
Eminem going from good to shit over his career
6 reminded me of x
He ended 2 bars in a row with “yuh” and you think it sounded like X lol
As a musician, I'm so grateful for this
Oh wow, now I gotta watch woke up again by XG with this in mind!
This is really cool keep going!!!❤
Tech N9ne level shit
As a drummer, that 5 on triplets is a real trip and dope! Add that to the fact that you displaced both the 4 and 5 to start at different points to end cleanly. Lyrics on point too!
3 Let me tell you something
4 hold up, let me think
5 alright, here goes
6 let me explain you something
Great way to put it fr
Its crazy how once you start rapping you do this unconciously
Thought this was a Key and Peele sketch at first
First i wanna say. That shit was smooth. Second. Please drop the instrumental for the rest of us 😂😂 please.
6>>>
insane breakdown of the low key polyrhythms that exist in the dominant triplet flow of rap today
love that shit
Wow! This is soooo good!!
You are not only a great artist but what an amazing teacher
Some of that felt like Midwest Rap, mainly going from 3 to 4 syllables. Maybe I've listened to too much Tech N9ne.