If you do: #showtooltip /stopattack /equip [target=Devilsaur Eye] Blackhand's Breadth /equip [target=Blackhand's Breadth] Devilsaur Eye /cast [combat] Feign Death /petstay [@pettarget, harm] /petpassive [@pettarget, harm] It switches them around. Just one macro to switch back and forth :)
as far as that goes, that's exactly what my settings do. Only point I wanted to make was that the ItemRack is no longer supported, so I'm concerned it'll break at some point.
Bless you mate, I will do my best to help you any way I can. Be sure to join the discord. there's lots of great and useful tips there for you bro! Happy Hunting!
I switched the macro to this and works way better for me when i spam it. #showtooltip Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas /petfollow /petpassive /stopattack /cast [combat] Feign Death /equip [target=Devilsaur Eye] Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas
Hello Zera, i wasnt on your side with your comment about the shrouded mists. But here you do a very good job! I have seen many hunters not understanding the strength on-use Trinkets and infight swaps and therefore dont even use the devilssaur. Good Video!
B W well you’d actually be surprised if you joined the discord my friend. The comparison between Baron and Mists is far more closer than you might expect. Even with Kings and others. I have Mists now myself. So I personally believe Mists is better. :D
Have you considered doing trinket swaps with summon trinkets instead? They have much higher potential in fights where they’ll live. My chicken has done 2.4k+ on Nef, and my Timbermaw Ancestor does similar damage but at range. And unlike buff trinkets, you can swap them as soon as they’re activated.
/script print(GetItemCooldown(19991)) /script print(GetTime()) 19991 is the devilsaur eye itemid 18473 is the Royal Seal itemid The numbers you get from GetItemCooldown is timestamp, full cooldown duration and the last number is 1 if the item is ready or on cooldown, 0 if the item is used, but the cooldown didn't start yet. I suggest subtracting the cooldown timestamp from GetTime timestamp and do something if its longer than 90 seconds since it was used, here is an example. local cdstamp, cd, enable == GetItemCooldown(19991); local t = GetTime(); if ((t - cdstamp) > 90) then EquipItemByName(19991, 13) end This is for swapping to Devilsaur after its been used and swapped out, I tried to make it also be able to swap to Royal Seal and I tried fiddling with a way to prevent it from swapping to Royal Seal while Devilsaur Fury was active, but i got disconnected and lost all of my test macros, even though i saved them and had them dragged to my actionbar... :/ For that purpose i had something like this /run for i=1,40 do local B=UnitBuff("player",i); if B == "Devilsaur Fury" then local buffy = 1 end end; if buffy == 1 then print("buff is active") else print("buff is not active") end These macros as you probably know are limited in how many characters it can contain, you can get around this by using RunScript(GetMacroBody("Name of macro")) just be sure that the macrobody you import, don't contani /script or /run, they need to purely contain code I might give it another shot in a few days, but let me know if you have questions and i'll do my best to answer them.
Hey Zera, great video. To throw a wrench even more in the mix, can you break down the numbers on the Charm of the Beasts plus Devilsaur eye? I know you said they go on cd if you pop the other, but if you actually pop the charm first, it puts devilsaur eye on only a 10 sec cd. So an opening could be aimed, multi, charm, aimed, multi, devilsaur eye, aimed, multi... fd, swap both trinkets. yes, losing 2% crit for your opener sucks, but it may test as more damage. Mind evil geniusing the math? Thanks!
Hi Zera, Thanks for this video. I try to swap the trinkets but after swap the buff from DevilsaurEye gone. So in this point i should to wait until the buff finish then swap. p.s. Could you please, explane a little bit better for the addon or make another video, for me the addon doesn't work. Cheers
@@SaltyZera, first thanks for the excellente video and your precious help to the wow classic hunter community. Really appreciate it man! The "target" condition of the equip line doesn't do anything. If u have another trinket in upper slot diferent from Devilsaur Eye (for example Blackhand's Breadth) it will switch to Royal Seal anyways. From what i read in forums the only argument u can supply to a equip conditional is the slot number. Using "/equip Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas" will suffice to switch the upper slot. To change the bottom slot is just like u said, use equipslot number "/equipslot 14 Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas" in the macro. The itemrack auto swap has been failing me in raids fights and i can't find an explanation (in pvp didnt noticed any failure) so next raid i will disable itemrack auto queue and only use the FD trinket swap macro. Cheers
Great video, but I am slightly confused. I installed the addon, but when I tried it last night in BWL it did not auto swap. I notice that you have all the boxes in the config tab unchecked. Mine are all checked by default; so should I uncheck everything as you show in the video? Thanks in advance for your reply, and the excellent videos.
Honestly, I use it on the second Aimed Shot. So my rotation will look like this: Auto -> Aimed -> Auto -> Multi -> Auto -> Open Slot -> Auto -> Pop Devilsaur Eye + Rapid Fire + Aimed Shot -> etc.
no, never said that lol. I said they were a great option. BSH x2 with +15 Agi are third on the BiS list. Please be sure to join the Discord. All the information you need is listed there :)
Nobody should ever choose a quest reward because of it's usefulness in a future expansion. if that's something you wanna do, i would recommend leveling a second Hunter in prep for TBC.
I can’t choose beteween the devilsaur eye or devilsaur tooth. I guess that down the line the devilsaur tooth must be great for bm hunter and usefull through all upcoming expansions. Wouldn’t the devilsaur be irrelevant by the next expansion ?
Aurska aye. But you’re assuming our characters are going to carry over. If you’re that worried about it. I would simply level another toon specifically for TBC.
Aurska anytime mate. And the tooth is BiS for TBC. It’s certainly a fair question. And if you’re not too worried about doing your top damage then you can do without the eye honestly. The Charm will soon be released in ZG and it out performs the Eye. So that decision is ultimately up to you.
Hello! ty for the vid, im a new hunter and trying to do this swap trinket but i cant do it in combat even with the macro, any tip or maybe im doing anything wrong.
Pierce Peche all I can say is that you might want to see if you have some sort of debuff on you or your pet when you perform the macro. I’ve had incredible success with the macro. Also double check and see if the macro is correctly written. Double check with the one in our discord. Link is in the video description.
The first day I installed item rack and set it up, the system worked great! The next day, item rack would not queue anything. Do I have to click something to make it work before every boss fight?
honestly mate, I don't know why but in raids it doesn't seem to work very well. I have given up on the addon and moved onto my macro it works wonderfully and I highly recommend it for you to use! :D
Is anyone having issues with the macro sometimes not working while in a boss fight? I can't tell what is going on and why sometimes this trinket swap macro wont work. Ive tried experimenting with when to "smash" the macro (hit it as quickly and repeatedly as I can) such as only hitting it after my auto shot projectile has landed on the boss, after a boss does a large aoe that may put me back in combat as soon as I feign, ive tried different ranges on the boss when I hit the macro, etc. I cant seem to figure out any pattern on why this macro will or will not work. Am I missing something? Its becoming pretty detrimental to my dps to sit on a used devilsaur eye for 30 seconds before I can feign again to the point where some bosses im not even putting a devilsaur eye on. Btw id say this happens about 1 out of 4 times I attempt the swap macro and haven't noticed it happening more or less on any specific encounter.
@@Stewy612 The issue with the macro is order of operation. It tries to swap trinkets before FD'ing, and if you are in combat, won't. Thus why he tells people to spam it. If you swap the /equip and /cast line it'll work better. May still require spamming though, since combat status isn't always dropped immediately. I hope this helps.
christopher woods be size it ally you to simply swap trinkets out of combat if you desire to. Otherwise when in combat you’ll feign death and then swap it while FD’d
@@SaltyZera I don't get it. How can you swap trinket when you are in combat? Shouldn't the FD be before the trinket swap otherwise it won't work? If you tested it already and it works, my suspicions are that the trinket swap has a delay and is actually done concurrently (so after in this case) with the following action which is FD.
Hey man! Great video! Is it possible to switch two trinkets with FD macro? Switching both Zandalarians hero medallion and Devilsaur eye for two trinkets? I have not got it to work..
It is possible for sure; however, I wouldn't be using those two together, because they share a CD. Better off sticking with Devilsaur Eye since it does higher damage than the Medallion. Although, once you get the Beast Charm trinket, you can use it over Devilsaur Eye. Either way, you won't need double DPS Trinket swaps until AQ40. Come swing by the stream and we'll discuss this further mate, I would love to help you with your macro!
I have full T1 and full T2. My raid allows me to put up the 8 piece debuff. This week I got ZHM and renataki’s. Do you think I should start an encounter in T1 + ZHM + Renataki’s, then after their use, FD and switch into T2 + BB + Seal?
You can't do this during most boss fights as you'll be in combat for a delayed amount of die or in combat permanently. You'd lose out on too much dmg by not attacking even for a second. Good for pvp tho
Colton Cross this is not actually the case. There’s plenty of time for you to FD during combat whilst you have an open slot in your rotation. Especially once you have Ashjre’thul. That’s over 3 seconds to FD and swap trinkets and roll right back into Auto Shot without fail. It’ll take practice. But totally worth it and works completely fine.
Wow! That's awesome, you're incredible! Love you guys so much! Hope you truly enjoyed! Sorry for my voice being a bit rickity, fighting off some early Spring Cold.
Yikes that sucks! Hope you feel better. Been meaning to stop by the stream sometime soon ! I still haven’t gotten around to doing the quest, I need to for sure
@@roifrias3321 It's not a weak aura, it's an add on or macro. I do have a Weak Aura for the timer, of which I will gladly put up in the weak aura section of the discord. feel free to get it there.
If you do:
#showtooltip
/stopattack
/equip [target=Devilsaur Eye] Blackhand's Breadth
/equip [target=Blackhand's Breadth] Devilsaur Eye
/cast [combat] Feign Death
/petstay [@pettarget, harm]
/petpassive [@pettarget, harm]
It switches them around. Just one macro to switch back and forth :)
do you have one to do it with 2 trinkets? or do i need two sperate buttons
@@1980mehdi was wondering the same as trying to squeeze in the other trinket slot takes the macro over the 255 character limit
U can set itemrack to swap devilsaur back when its 30 sec left of its cooldown, to optimize the uptime.
as far as that goes, that's exactly what my settings do. Only point I wanted to make was that the ItemRack is no longer supported, so I'm concerned it'll break at some point.
Ah ok, didnt understand that but all good then 👍 yes, going to keep ur macro as an backup. Ty for a great video!
@@davidskoglund7416 of course mate! happy hunting!
just got my jom gabbar! ty for the video Zera, very helpful.
As a new hunter player these videos are a godsend!! Keep it up my man !
Bless you mate, I will do my best to help you any way I can. Be sure to join the discord. there's lots of great and useful tips there for you bro! Happy Hunting!
I switched the macro to this and works way better for me when i spam it.
#showtooltip Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas
/petfollow
/petpassive
/stopattack
/cast [combat] Feign Death
/equip [target=Devilsaur Eye] Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas
Hello Zera, i wasnt on your side with your comment about the shrouded mists. But here you do a very good job! I have seen many hunters not understanding the strength on-use Trinkets and infight swaps and therefore dont even use the devilssaur. Good Video!
B W well you’d actually be surprised if you joined the discord my friend. The comparison between Baron and Mists is far more closer than you might expect. Even with Kings and others. I have Mists now myself. So I personally believe Mists is better. :D
Dude this trinket plus zerker buff and bwl crossbow i just hit a 3,2k aimshot on a mage omg
yea it's no joke, I can't wait to get my hands on Ashjre'thul! Haha
There’s a beach with like 6-7 wave trasher spawns NE of the cliffs
Have you considered doing trinket swaps with summon trinkets instead? They have much higher potential in fights where they’ll live. My chicken has done 2.4k+ on Nef, and my Timbermaw Ancestor does similar damage but at range. And unlike buff trinkets, you can swap them as soon as they’re activated.
FourStringsMoarStrings well I’m not exalted with Timbermaw. But I’m definitely an engineer. I’ll have to try that mate. Thank you!
It is actually possible to do a check if the trinket is on cooldown with a macro. I'll share it tomorrow
this would be very handy, thanks!
/script print(GetItemCooldown(19991))
/script print(GetTime())
19991 is the devilsaur eye itemid
18473 is the Royal Seal itemid
The numbers you get from GetItemCooldown is timestamp, full cooldown duration and the last number is 1 if the item is ready or on cooldown, 0 if the item is used, but the cooldown didn't start yet.
I suggest subtracting the cooldown timestamp from GetTime timestamp and do something if its longer than 90 seconds since it was used, here is an example.
local cdstamp, cd, enable == GetItemCooldown(19991); local t = GetTime(); if ((t - cdstamp) > 90) then EquipItemByName(19991, 13) end
This is for swapping to Devilsaur after its been used and swapped out, I tried to make it also be able to swap to Royal Seal and I tried fiddling with a way to prevent it from swapping to Royal Seal while Devilsaur Fury was active, but i got disconnected and lost all of my test macros, even though i saved them and had them dragged to my actionbar... :/
For that purpose i had something like this
/run for i=1,40 do local B=UnitBuff("player",i); if B == "Devilsaur Fury" then local buffy = 1 end end; if buffy == 1 then print("buff is active") else print("buff is not active") end
These macros as you probably know are limited in how many characters it can contain, you can get around this by using RunScript(GetMacroBody("Name of macro")) just be sure that the macrobody you import, don't contani /script or /run, they need to purely contain code
I might give it another shot in a few days, but let me know if you have questions and i'll do my best to answer them.
Good stuff. Helpful as always
Thankful for your support mate, Happy Hunting!
Finally ive found an classic hunter channel! Thanks alot
You’re completely welcome!! Feel free to join the discord for a ton of extremely useful information!
I remember it was said in vanilla using rapid fire with eye was a dps loss compared to using one after the others buff is over.
i can't believe any of us were any good back then lol
SW trainer in the dwarves district, maybe there’s some lore implication since it’s right next to the tram too. I always wondered about this.
Dwarf district in Stormwind is its own country. Why there's 3 trainers.
ROFLMAO, no knocking us Dwarves mate! :D
Hey Zera, great video. To throw a wrench even more in the mix, can you break down the numbers on the Charm of the Beasts plus Devilsaur eye? I know you said they go on cd if you pop the other, but if you actually pop the charm first, it puts devilsaur eye on only a 10 sec cd. So an opening could be aimed, multi, charm, aimed, multi, devilsaur eye, aimed, multi... fd, swap both trinkets. yes, losing 2% crit for your opener sucks, but it may test as more damage. Mind evil geniusing the math? Thanks!
Join the discord people, a lot of useful info there!
Could u set this up for both Devilsaur + Royal seal, and Renataki + Blackhand's breath using ItemRack?
Hi Zera,
Thanks for this video.
I try to swap the trinkets but after swap the buff from DevilsaurEye gone. So in this point i should to wait until the buff finish then swap.
p.s. Could you please, explane a little bit better for the addon or make another video, for me the addon doesn't work.
Cheers
Any chance of getting the info for the bartender or WA one button setup?
is htere a way to change the trinket swap MACRO to change the bottom slots? instead of the first top ones?
sure, you can do it by utilizing the exact name of the trinket in the macro or by simply using slot 14. Either way will work.
Zera ahh ok thank you. I’ll check out your vid soon on the devilsaur and beast swap for that macro. Very eager to try it out :D
@@SaltyZera, first thanks for the excellente video and your precious help to the wow classic hunter community. Really appreciate it man! The "target" condition of the equip line doesn't do anything. If u have another trinket in upper slot diferent from Devilsaur Eye (for example Blackhand's Breadth) it will switch to Royal Seal anyways. From what i read in forums the only argument u can supply to a equip conditional is the slot number. Using "/equip Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas" will suffice to switch the upper slot. To change the bottom slot is just like u said, use equipslot number "/equipslot 14 Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas" in the macro. The itemrack auto swap has been failing me in raids fights and i can't find an explanation (in pvp didnt noticed any failure) so next raid i will disable itemrack auto queue and only use the FD trinket swap macro. Cheers
how can i feign death and trinket swap 2 trinkets at once? for dm book trinket and blackhands breath
Thx for the video man
Of course mate! I'm so blessed to do it. Really hope it helps. Happy Hunting mate!
Great video, but I am slightly confused. I installed the addon, but when I tried it last night in BWL it did not auto swap. I notice that you have all the boxes in the config tab unchecked. Mine are all checked by default; so should I uncheck everything as you show in the video? Thanks in advance for your reply, and the excellent videos.
Any advice on not taking threat when starting with devilsaur eye/rapid fire? How long are you waiting before dpsing?
Honestly, I use it on the second Aimed Shot. So my rotation will look like this: Auto -> Aimed -> Auto -> Multi -> Auto -> Open Slot -> Auto -> Pop Devilsaur Eye + Rapid Fire + Aimed Shot -> etc.
Dude there is so much steps in this quest druid didn't have that much
Couldn't you just use TrinketMenu app for trinket swap? Que up and when FD it swaps automatically
LaRueOBR556 you might be able to do this. But I don’t like relying on add ons. I’ve got back to using my macro for this and it works wonders.
im trying to make it work on TrinketMenu but doesnt want to swap in when ready... not suree what im doing wrong .. has a similar menu to ItemRack
great video....but why you have those bone slicing hatchets though?
I thought assassination blade with +15 agi enchants was BiS?
;P
no, never said that lol. I said they were a great option. BSH x2 with +15 Agi are third on the BiS list. Please be sure to join the Discord. All the information you need is listed there :)
How about tooth tho? eye will get replace in AQ. but tooth will be use until tbc?
Nobody should ever choose a quest reward because of it's usefulness in a future expansion. if that's something you wanna do, i would recommend leveling a second Hunter in prep for TBC.
Are you having issues with the trinket swap macro? I have to click it 3 - 4 x and its not working 100% of the time. Very annoying.
nice video!
I can’t choose beteween the devilsaur eye or devilsaur tooth. I guess that down the line the devilsaur tooth must be great for bm hunter and usefull through all upcoming expansions. Wouldn’t the devilsaur be irrelevant by the next expansion ?
Aurska aye. But you’re assuming our characters are going to carry over. If you’re that worried about it. I would simply level another toon specifically for TBC.
Zera thanks for the reply
Aurska anytime mate. And the tooth is BiS for TBC. It’s certainly a fair question. And if you’re not too worried about doing your top damage then you can do without the eye honestly. The Charm will soon be released in ZG and it out performs the Eye. So that decision is ultimately up to you.
How can I swap both treinket at once?
the reason for the 2%hit on the trinket is when u switch with the DFT you still be hit capped
Nice observation dude
Can this macro be expanded with the new AQ trinket in combo with devilsaur eye?
yes, it's already been updated in the Discord. Feel free to join and check it out in the #macro channel.
discord.gg/ZSfpa2Z
@@SaltyZera TY
liked and subbed. great video
thanks mate! Happy Hunting!
Hello! ty for the vid, im a new hunter and trying to do this swap trinket but i cant do it in combat even with the macro, any tip or maybe im doing anything wrong.
Pierce Peche all I can say is that you might want to see if you have some sort of debuff on you or your pet when you perform the macro. I’ve had incredible success with the macro. Also double check and see if the macro is correctly written. Double check with the one in our discord. Link is in the video description.
The first day I installed item rack and set it up, the system worked great! The next day, item rack would not queue anything. Do I have to click something to make it work before every boss fight?
honestly mate, I don't know why but in raids it doesn't seem to work very well. I have given up on the addon and moved onto my macro it works wonderfully and I highly recommend it for you to use! :D
@@SaltyZera Does the macro work mid-fight while you're in combat?
Rob Berto yep. Just have to spam it.
Is the trinket BiS with the 2% crit trinket?
Well, some people argue that it's BiS with BB, but I would say that it's ultimately up to you. I'm definitely not going to lose out on that 2% crit.
Is anyone having issues with the macro sometimes not working while in a boss fight? I can't tell what is going on and why sometimes this trinket swap macro wont work. Ive tried experimenting with when to "smash" the macro (hit it as quickly and repeatedly as I can) such as only hitting it after my auto shot projectile has landed on the boss, after a boss does a large aoe that may put me back in combat as soon as I feign, ive tried different ranges on the boss when I hit the macro, etc. I cant seem to figure out any pattern on why this macro will or will not work. Am I missing something? Its becoming pretty detrimental to my dps to sit on a used devilsaur eye for 30 seconds before I can feign again to the point where some bosses im not even putting a devilsaur eye on. Btw id say this happens about 1 out of 4 times I attempt the swap macro and haven't noticed it happening more or less on any specific encounter.
Same. Had to use another guide
Itemrack or macro? Or both of them? It is still broken? Does not work for me.... Btw I love your vids!!!
does this macro still work? tried it out in AQ20 tonight and it gives an error of must be out of combat? just copy and pasted what was above
Stewy612 there’s an updated version of this macro in the discord. Link to which is in the description.
nevermind, i realized if in combat click macro again to make swap...hope that might help others
@@Stewy612 The issue with the macro is order of operation. It tries to swap trinkets before FD'ing, and if you are in combat, won't. Thus why he tells people to spam it. If you swap the /equip and /cast line it'll work better. May still require spamming though, since combat status isn't always dropped immediately. I hope this helps.
has anyone tested whether this is worth using?
Shaun Satter the addon has since been discovered to be worthless. However the macro is amazing. It works like a charm.
Wait if you are swapping trinkets why is the macro having you swap before the feign death?
christopher woods be size it ally you to simply swap trinkets out of combat if you desire to. Otherwise when in combat you’ll feign death and then swap it while FD’d
@@SaltyZera I don't get it. How can you swap trinket when you are in combat? Shouldn't the FD be before the trinket swap otherwise it won't work?
If you tested it already and it works, my suspicions are that the trinket swap has a delay and is actually done concurrently (so after in this case) with the following action which is FD.
Hey man! Great video! Is it possible to switch two trinkets with FD macro? Switching both Zandalarians hero medallion and Devilsaur eye for two trinkets? I have not got it to work..
It is possible for sure; however, I wouldn't be using those two together, because they share a CD. Better off sticking with Devilsaur Eye since it does higher damage than the Medallion. Although, once you get the Beast Charm trinket, you can use it over Devilsaur Eye. Either way, you won't need double DPS Trinket swaps until AQ40. Come swing by the stream and we'll discuss this further mate, I would love to help you with your macro!
morphaz is eaaaasily kitable solo, just need the walls in the eatern portion of the corridor he pats
yea, we just did that on stream for one of my other Hunters in the guild. She has full 8/8 T2 and I helped her snag up the Eye.
I have full T1 and full T2. My raid allows me to put up the 8 piece debuff. This week I got ZHM and renataki’s. Do you think I should start an encounter in T1 + ZHM + Renataki’s, then after their use, FD and switch into T2 + BB + Seal?
What a flex
You can't do this during most boss fights as you'll be in combat for a delayed amount of die or in combat permanently. You'd lose out on too much dmg by not attacking even for a second. Good for pvp tho
Colton Cross this is not actually the case. There’s plenty of time for you to FD during combat whilst you have an open slot in your rotation. Especially once you have Ashjre’thul. That’s over 3 seconds to FD and swap trinkets and roll right back into Auto Shot without fail. It’ll take practice. But totally worth it and works completely fine.
Could you put the macro in the comments please?
I could do that, but it's also in the Discord. I invite you to join, there's a ton of useful information there. Happy Hunting mate!
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Wow! That's awesome, you're incredible! Love you guys so much! Hope you truly enjoyed! Sorry for my voice being a bit rickity, fighting off some early Spring Cold.
Yikes that sucks! Hope you feel better. Been meaning to stop by the stream sometime soon ! I still haven’t gotten around to doing the quest, I need to for sure
@@zaior3684 aye exactly!
@@SaltyZera where is the WA
@@roifrias3321 It's not a weak aura, it's an add on or macro. I do have a Weak Aura for the timer, of which I will gladly put up in the weak aura section of the discord. feel free to get it there.
Quintych
The 2% hit is your excuse to try and steal dft lol
indeed! :) haha