I was thinking the ...exact opposite ;) can't wait for this sound to go back out of fashion! Then again, I'm not one to follow trends, so it's all the same with me really ;) (But I play Paiste, what did you expect?!)
This is what I am hoping to happen for Zildjian. I almost bought Meinl for dry sound quality. So now I can keep my Zildjian K dark set up and add these new ones. Thanks Zildjian.
I have a set of the first series...just a little heavier and touch more to a traditional cymbal sound than these. To me it makes them a bit more versatile, but they still retain that wonderful dry quality! :)
@@J4B7 this! The old 21" Special Dry Ride sounds actually much more versatile than the newer one. Check out Vinnie Colaiuta’s videos from 2003 for reference.
I just want to clarify for some that Zildjian had a dry line out loonng ago. Zildjian’s first “dry line” just absolutely does not compare to this newer line from 2017(?) These are incredible and I prefer them over almost all other dry cymbal lines . Istanbul signature line is nice. Meinl extra dry lines are nice . But these Zildjians, man...... It is good to have different tastes, though . So we are not all robot musicians :) Let me say it one more time. If you are considering these . Pull the trigger. These are incredible . Absolutely incredible. I am not even a zildjian guy .
I have the first set and I love them, but I guess that would depend on application and user taste? Mine were used more for mainstream jazz...if your application was for something heavier or Rock then I could definitely see the attraction with the new series. The old ones to me were a little more versatile, but as you say it's nice to have enough choices to find our own sounds! :)
Nice to see Zildjian expanding their vocabulary, but if you want dry, complex tones, I'd definitely recommend Istanbul Agop's Turk and Signature series or Meinl Extra Dry series over these.
I'm not familiar with the price differences tbh, but I'd happily pay more for cymbals that are genuinely hand made by craftsmen. You don't get that with Zildjian.
YES!!! ive been waiting for this for som long!! Olmost went to Meinl Extra Dry, but looks like Zildjian finally has modernized their sound. Sounds better too.
Zildjian came out with this line in 2003-2004. I wanna say they were first to do this but I could be wrong. so Meinl just followed suit with Zildjian with the dry cymbals
I would absolutely love just to be able to go through Zildjian Full Line up, and just be able to pick around, and try different combinations on a set up, let alone own them. Man! Just to play some of them, especially certain ones, and certain combinations, I would just basically feel so honored to even be able to play on such of these works of art. I gotta hand it to Zildjian on everything I've had the honor of playing. Well, idk about the titanium full honest disclosure, but hey, I digress. Some oldersuff especially I've played on, absolutely masterful sound. Truly earth shaking. All that said, I'd absolutely love to hear how some of these dry crispies sound matched up in different ways with some bright shimmery Z Custom Mastersoumds, and OLD DRY A's.
I'd absolutely love to hear how some of these dry crispies sound matched up in different ways with some bright shimmery Z Custom Mastersoumds, and OLD DRY A's.
Just imagine the Stack you could make! Or rather Stacks! Like, when I go to the pancake house, I'm ordering a full stack, but hey if you're feeling generous, full stacks all around! 🥁
Outside of the Big and Ugly series, I’m surprised Sabian hasn’t introduced a dry line. My set up is primarily Zildjian K’s (one A Custom and one EFX mixed in) with 3 of them being these Special Dry’s and they’re by far my favorite. The 19” crash is the perfect crash in my opinion. Meinl and Istanbul also have beautiful dry cymbals.
I couldn't wait to try these out. when I got the chance I found them to be more Chinese sounding, and actually a bit abrasive too, imo. Zildjian almost had it right when they came out with the "rarities" in 2014, but they were so inconsistent. you really had to dig to find a set that sounded good together.
My 24“ K light ride crackt after 10 years of playing 😢 now i search for an other ride and i love the sound of the specal dry stuff… can you recomend the 23“ specal dry for rock funk hiphop? or are ther other bether options? i like to crash the ride and love some lighter rides sry for my bad englisch 😅
Larnell gives a description and follows up with "if that's what you need..." that is a constructive review. I've noticed a number of folks who don't like or need cymbals with short/extremely short sustain/ decay cymbals or don't like trashy type sounds, though make comments " like sound like crap", or emotional type responses. Nice to see some type of discussion going on here that doesn't add to the joke, "what do you call a drummer with half a brain',...."talented".
Its sound trashy but I’m still in love with the look of Meinl extra dry cymbals. They look like they come out of my great grand grandpa’s vault. So I’m using Meinl extra dry cymbals and Zildjian 24” cymbals vault cus Meinl vault looks ridiculous.
drummer14 yeah Meinl has their extra dry line down pact. Tho I have been wanting Meinl to release a extra dry trash crash for a while now ever since first hearing Matt Garstkas extra dry stack.
The extra dry line is great don't get me wrong. I don't personally love trashy and dry. Yes there are so many great cymbals by them (I really do love that stack too. I just like the musicality and sound of a large chunk of meinl. I love all the new sabians that came out
Am i the only one that really cant get down with these dead as fuck sounding cymbals? sure Meinl do em too, but they are only slightly less... dead. I dunno. Dry is nice,but these sound like they are in a drought. Larnell is tough as though.
I honestly believe its because instagram drummers play them and they sound good recorded with crap mics. They have very little overtones and stuff so they record easily, which makes them popular. But yeah, when you hear them in real life they're a bit...lacking
Larnell is such a musical drummer that i always enjoy watching him play..
4:02 "If that is what you need, this is what you need."
Wise man indeed.
I don't know how many times I have come back to this video. It doesn't get old !
dry cymbals finally getting the love they deserve
dry cymbals were the rage about 10 years ago or so, everyone was playing those custom/special darks and they came out with the left side ride. . . .
Now they’re all the rage!
I was thinking the ...exact opposite ;) can't wait for this sound to go back out of fashion! Then again, I'm not one to follow trends, so it's all the same with me really ;)
(But I play Paiste, what did you expect?!)
@@daniel.lopresti i dunno anything about fashion, but the dryer the cymbal is, the happier my ears are.
This is what I am hoping to happen for Zildjian. I almost bought Meinl for dry sound quality. So now I can keep my Zildjian K dark set up and add these new ones. Thanks Zildjian.
My God... Everything in this video sounds good. The tuning of the drums. The cymbals. The post-production work. Etc. Excellent video.
I was just lookin for a review/sound clip on these cymbals and gotta say, I couldn't have asked for a better guide. Larnell is top class
Just to clear this up: This is Zildjian’s second dry series. They were the first of the big 4 to do it.
First time they did it was only Big 3.
I have a set of the first series...just a little heavier and touch more to a traditional cymbal sound than these. To me it makes them a bit more versatile, but they still retain that wonderful dry quality! :)
@@J4B7 this! The old 21" Special Dry Ride sounds actually much more versatile than the newer one. Check out Vinnie Colaiuta’s videos from 2003 for reference.
@@marcoleone393 right i remember the old special drys. they rang abit more but just dry enough. these sound horrible imo
I love hearing smart brothers explain their craft.
I just want to clarify for some that Zildjian had a dry line out loonng ago. Zildjian’s first “dry line” just absolutely does not compare to this newer line from 2017(?) These are incredible and I prefer them over almost all other dry cymbal lines . Istanbul signature line is nice. Meinl extra dry lines are nice . But these Zildjians, man...... It is good to have different tastes, though . So we are not all robot musicians :)
Let me say it one more time. If you are considering these . Pull the trigger. These are incredible . Absolutely incredible. I am not even a zildjian guy .
I have the first set and I love them, but I guess that would depend on application and user taste? Mine were used more for mainstream jazz...if your application was for something heavier or Rock then I could definitely see the attraction with the new series. The old ones to me were a little more versatile, but as you say it's nice to have enough choices to find our own sounds! :)
"If that is what you need - then this is what you need" - hah, brilliant
These are the 1st Zildjian Cymbals that actually sound good. Zildjian did a good job with this line. Dry is what is in right now.
Manda please... Just dont
Nice to see Zildjian expanding their vocabulary, but if you want dry, complex tones, I'd definitely recommend Istanbul Agop's Turk and Signature series or Meinl Extra Dry series over these.
David Mcmenemy i like these more than those other joints..i honestly never heard nothing like these
Poltak Arif instanbuls and Meinls are significantly more expensive than Zildjian though.at least in Canada.
I'm not familiar with the price differences tbh, but I'd happily pay more for cymbals that are genuinely hand made by craftsmen. You don't get that with Zildjian.
lol do you really think these cymbals are not hand made
David Mcmenemy nothing good comes out of Meinl
the hats sound really good
YES!!! ive been waiting for this for som long!! Olmost went to Meinl Extra Dry, but looks like Zildjian finally has modernized their sound. Sounds better too.
Zildjian came out with this line in 2003-2004. I wanna say they were first to do this but I could be wrong. so Meinl just followed suit with Zildjian with the dry cymbals
Best drumming ive heard in a while.
larnell is my man !!
Larnell is too legit!
Zildjian is going Meinl on us
true
Ignorant statement
Zillions came up with this series back in 2003. It’s probably the opposite way.
I own some K Custom Hybrid cymbals and I'm very happy with them - however, I think Meinl has my vote when it comes to thin, dry cymbals.
It seems like Zildjian has copied the Meinl Extra Dry line a little bit, which are very popular at the moment.
Zildjian had an old version of this line way before Meinl.
Dan See True, they used to offer the whole programm from hats to crashes. Also the Special Dry Ride had its place in their programm the whole time.
Flo Herrle its exactly what they did. The other problem is they always discontinued the good Cymbals. Because of this I switch to Meinl
Flo Herrle The Meinls sound more trashy than Zildjians dry line. you still get a good defined crash, just dry.
It's the other way around. The Zildjian rige e.g. has been around for years.
The best play the best!
Sound amazing, especially the crashes.
Zildjian - these are awesome!
David Curtis
I would absolutely love just to be able to go through Zildjian Full Line up, and just be able to pick around, and try different combinations on a set up, let alone own them. Man! Just to play some of them, especially certain ones, and certain combinations, I would just basically feel so honored to even be able to play on such of these works of art. I gotta hand it to Zildjian on everything I've had the honor of playing. Well, idk about the titanium full honest disclosure, but hey, I digress. Some oldersuff especially I've played on, absolutely masterful sound. Truly earth shaking. All that said, I'd absolutely love to hear how some of these dry crispies sound matched up in different ways with some bright shimmery Z Custom Mastersoumds, and OLD DRY A's.
I'd absolutely love to hear how some of these dry crispies sound matched up in different ways with some bright shimmery Z Custom Mastersoumds, and OLD DRY A's.
Just imagine the Stack you could make!
Or rather Stacks! Like, when I go to the pancake house, I'm ordering a full stack, but hey if you're feeling generous, full stacks all around! 🥁
Love this line
Outside of the Big and Ugly series, I’m surprised Sabian hasn’t introduced a dry line. My set up is primarily Zildjian K’s (one A Custom and one EFX mixed in) with 3 of them being these Special Dry’s and they’re by far my favorite.
The 19” crash is the perfect crash in my opinion. Meinl and Istanbul also have beautiful dry cymbals.
Wish there was an alternate video where we could just listen to his performance without any of the commentary.
@4:50 holy momma Sh*t ...love that effect
beautiful.
Great presentation.
why they sound so majestic 😣😢😢
Justin Alexander meinl dry still seem better too me
I couldn't wait to try these out. when I got the chance I found them to be more Chinese sounding, and actually a bit abrasive too, imo. Zildjian almost had it right when they came out with the "rarities" in 2014, but they were so inconsistent. you really had to dig to find a set that sounded good together.
I got the 16" and the 18" crash
*Those cymbals are JUST MAGIC*
Yes please.
so I have both meinl and special k it is a big experiment and wow
Yesss Larnell
My 24“ K light ride crackt after 10 years of playing 😢 now i search for an other ride and i love the sound of the specal dry stuff… can you recomend the 23“ specal dry for rock funk hiphop? or are ther other bether options? i like to crash the ride and love some lighter rides
sry for my bad englisch 😅
Someone put tons of starch and ironed them hats! Crisp AF!
Just Amazing
Though the cymbals are nice. I'm really curious about that snare on the right. Pretty interesting.
So new for 2017 we get Zildjian's Meinl, and Meinl's Paiste with the Pure Alloy... I wonder what we will get next
hi hats are the stars here.
he got jealous of sput's mienls
yeah totally! Meinl is the brand of dry cymbals being só popular today
mienl
Larnell's line with Zildjian!
Sabian we a new thin dry line to compete!
Do these crashes cut loud enough for live rock?
What's for the bottom hat?
Man they sound beautiful!! What heads are those on the set??
Larnell gives a description and follows up with "if that's what you need..." that is a constructive review. I've noticed a number of folks who don't like or need cymbals with short/extremely short sustain/ decay cymbals or don't like trashy type sounds, though make comments " like sound like crap", or emotional type responses. Nice to see some type of discussion going on here that doesn't add to the joke, "what do you call a drummer with half a brain',...."talented".
are these any different from the "k custom special dry" series they had a few years back?
THAT FADE IN AT 4:50
Its sound trashy but I’m still in love with the look of Meinl extra dry cymbals. They look like they come out of my great grand grandpa’s vault.
So I’m using Meinl extra dry cymbals and Zildjian 24” cymbals vault cus Meinl vault looks ridiculous.
To me the order of dry cymbal sound goes Sabian, Meinl, then Zildjian
Andrew Weiner meinl at first, i would say!
drummer14 yeah Meinl has their extra dry line down pact. Tho I have been wanting Meinl to release a extra dry trash crash for a while now ever since first hearing Matt Garstkas extra dry stack.
The extra dry line is great don't get me wrong. I don't personally love trashy and dry. Yes there are so many great cymbals by them (I really do love that stack too. I just like the musicality and sound of a large chunk of meinl. I love all the new sabians that came out
Andrew Weiner Sabi-who?
@@andyp90210 Sabian the one with RADIA line
I still think that the meinl extra dry dual cymbals sound dryer.
holy shit its goin DOWNN
Time to catch up with Meinl
Is larnell doing the "salt bae" in the thumbnail?
Callum Moodley 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m just seeing this lollll
See, meinl has 5000 different dry cymbal lines... Zildjian only needs one line, which crushes them all...
These things sound like a sandpaper on a stand.
Zildjian's Meinl?
Ride and crashes sound nice, but that hi hat... something went wrong;)))
4:49 I came
Am i the only one that really cant get down with these dead as fuck sounding cymbals? sure Meinl do em too, but they are only slightly less... dead. I dunno. Dry is nice,but these sound like they are in a drought.
Larnell is tough as though.
I honestly believe its because instagram drummers play them and they sound good recorded with crap mics. They have very little overtones and stuff so they record easily, which makes them popular. But yeah, when you hear them in real life they're a bit...lacking
Todd Cantley true. I didn't consider the overtones whilst recording.
That 21 is boneriffic.
He sounds like tosin abasi
Love Larnell, but the cymbals..not so much. I’m sure they sound different in person, but they resonate like a pizza pan on here.
Zildjian kinda copied meinls extra dry series
he's better than Bob Knuth
These are drier than the Sahara lmao.
Shut up and play! :D
Honestly, I only enjoyed the ride... hated the hihats!
those cymbals almost as ashy as him
not a big fan of these , stick with the k custom or regular K , these border on crappy meinl cymbals
Don't Like the sound of it it's Like kitchen wear
Less talking, more playing