I bought this truck the year it came out. It still runs exactly the same. Over 100,000 miles. I have hauled, towed, and use it like a truck should be used. I've done nothing but gas, tires, brakes, and oil. I thought about buying a new one. But when I really thought it over, I just decided to splurge on a new stereo system and custom speakers. She's got another 14 years in her... easy
Dude keep the truck. The extra gas being used is probably lubricating the valves, unlike most newer car that do direct injection. Nothing wrong with SOME thirsty cars as the gas can help lubricate the top end internals that the oil can't always reach
@@792bnz well the other great part is that truck has been paid for a long time so anything it needs it will get. That's one thing I do like about my Lexus RCF it is both port and fuel injected.
@@DebianDog I owned a 2017 5.7 Crewmax 4x4 brand new. A V8 Titan scrapped my truck in a hit and run. I tried catching up to get the license plate and my Tundra was too slow. That's on top on considering it is the highest gas guzzler in it's class.
@@DebianDog I paid around 48k if I remember correctly for my 2017 Tundra. I sold it to a Honda dealership for $35,000 Check in early 2019. Surprisingly they didn't do a walk around. They didn't see the damage until after I had the check. It wasn't big damage but a single noticeable deep scrape on the passenger side quarter bedside panel.
No shifter that folds, no full digital dashboard, no gigantic touchscreen. No gimmicks that can break. Just a solid truck with time-proven components. I traded a 2017 F-150 for a 2020 Tundra Limited. It has all the tech I need and I know I won’t get recall notices every other month for stupid stuff.
I've had 2 Ford F150's the 3.5 eco boost and the 5.4 V8 and a Ram 1500 with the Hemi. Since i've driven each of these three trucks for well over 400,000 miles I would take the Toyota or Nissan everytime. Both Ford and Ram had mechanical issues at 120,000 miles and significant amount of money at the dealers to get fixed. I've seen these Tundra's with 400-500 thousand kilometers at the dealerships. The gas mileage is the same on ALL of them, i've never got better than 15-17 MPG in any of them.
Interesting to hear your experiences with the EcoBoost. I was wondering how they would hold up after some serious mileage and you concerned my suspicions. The Nissan and Toyota might be ancient now but I think in terms of reliability the naturally aspirated old tech holds up better under hard use. Have a good day and thanks for sharing.
Everyone’s experience is different since no two vehicles ever seem to be the same, even if they rolled off the assembly line right after each other. My 2008 Tundra 5.7L that I bought new got 13 city and 13 highway. My 2019 Ford 3.5 eco, also new, gets 16 city and 20 highway. The Tundra was a money pit, some covered under warranty but a lot of repairs not. Water pumps should last longer than 40000 miles. Defective design or manufacture rear wheel bearings should last longer than 50000 miles and be covered under warranty, they were $1200. Defective catalytic converters and starter, yep also before 100000 miles. I spent thousands getting that Toyota to 106000 miles before getting rid of it. Like I said everyone’s experience is different. I will be totally honest too and say I purchased one hell of a bumper to bumper warranty on the F150, it has three times the technology to break over the Toyota. I think 10 years out of any vehicle is pushing it these days with all the cost cutting by manufacturers. Well that’s my two cents, I know you didn’t ask for it, lol.
So magically you've driven all of them 400,000 miles each...but you'll stick to Nissan(has al kind if reliability issues) and Toyota that's just old. Putting 1.2 million miles on trucks and then not only pick 2 trucks that are uncomfortable, but one is unreliable. Lol .
@@bigdan4698like your platinum still? Looking to buy either a 1794 or platinum ‘21. Both look like great trucks, just really comes down to preference imo. I need to haul two littles and a camper think this fits the bill perfectly.
That "dinosaur" will still last longer than most of it's new and redesigned competitors haha. Technology and design change over every 2-3 years. Quality lasts decades.
@@nickr3441 Well what they're saying is let's say ford invests 2 billion in developing the new f-150, it probably spent more but still. It takes a while to get a return on your investment. With how insanely popular the fseries is, it probably only takes ford a year or so. But that's what they mean, you need to make back that money you spent on development expenses before you can really profit from an investment.
Where do you people come up with this stuff? The Tundra has the highest build cost of ALL half tons, due to the extreme component quality, that's how they achieve million miles trucks
My 2015 Tundra Truck TRD Pro still runs like new, towing my 30 footer camping trailer every summer, hauling my 2 ATV's non stop. I don't mind about the gas mileage b'coz I bought my truck for a purpose. It's a solid and very reliable truck you can't find these days! I'm glad that I bought a Toyota Tundra Truck TRD Pro!
@@paladin3116 probably for the warranty and resale value. oh, and the new car smell lol. But seriously though, i agree with your comment. The engines in these trucks are immortal anyways, so it is a better value to buy an older tundra as long as there is not too much rust.
@@asdfghjqwertyu1858 you can literally buy these used with low miles for 40% less and its the same exact thing. i dont think the smell is worth saving 20k lol
The newer interior is so bland looking, I like the 2007-2013 interior way more. That interior is still nice, the Design of the 2007 - present Tundra all together has aged tremendously well.
So it's gonna use a twin turbocharged 3.5 v6, sounds a little familiar to those interested in f-150s ;) it's also rumored that this will be a hybrid like the power boost f150. Where things get interesting is people in the know are saying the new Tundra will be a turbocharged v6 only, no more v8s, or NA models. Not sure if I believe that but it would be interesting if that's the case.
that gen still looks better than the current gen. US News World Report dissed it for looking like a whale, but I thought it looked much better than the f150 and Silverado of that year.
I have a 2008 - bought the truck in 2013 with 25k on the dash. It now has 96k and runs strong. Excellent truck, I live in Massachusetts where snow falls and summers are humid. Replaced water pump and timing chain, air valves , aftermarket wheels and general grabber mud tires, dvd stereo. Remember..2008-2012 were some of the million mile tundras. 5.7 liter V8 is solid
@Officialhiddentest....only issue with this model was air pump failure. This air pump will make stop accelerating beyond 50mph. Truck is fine , it’s in limp mode until the air pump can be replaced. Otherwise it’s a tank
Well, I just bought one of these yesterday, slightly used with 12k miles and 10's of thousands less than a comparable new truck, its black with the same interior color. A vast improvement over my 2017 Ram 1500 that I traded for it. I will be driving this truck long after the competitors trucks are worn out with those ridiculously complex V6 turbo motors that while powerful, have to work a lot harder to accomplish the task. As for all the tech, that's just more stuff that can break... and cost a fortune to repair. Sometimes simpler is better and I have had nothing but admiring compliments from people who have seen it so far. I think Toyota has made a mistake going to the twin turbo V6 as well. You just can't replace the V-8 sound and smoothness.
@@bngr_bngr i think there is a lower trim model where it has a gasoline engine a hybrid and a battery pack in the back seat i think its a prius trim level, if youre complaing about gas mileage this is a working truck my guy not a daily it can be if you can afford the gas its pretty obvious if you can afford this truck you can afford the gas
@@andreaswanepoel2136 Not saying it is per sé bad. But I think at least on the interior part, they could do better. But I also understand that there is a group of people that appreciates the simplicity. For reliability and if you keep your truck for 15 years etc.etc. (typical Toyota arguments) nothing is as good as this. But to everyone else there are much more appealing, better driving, more technologically advanced options, especially for this cash. If reliability is your only reason to buy a car, just get a second had Toyota with 30000-60000 miles, save some cash, since you don't care about the new stuff anyway. You have no reason to shell out so much money for a "new" product that doesn't feel new at all in my opinion.
I have a 2019 Tacoma that I absolutely love because its "outdated." Real gauges, manual leather seats, no huge screen, hydraulic steering, and a manual transmission.
Sexy truck. To me that perfect. My Camry is the most outdated sedan ever. But the car is reliable. Everything still works like new. No mechanical or electrical or technology issues. Reliability and durability matters to me. My car has plastic everywhere but that'll be last for decades. I'm an old school type of guy anyways. To me this version of the tundra is perfect. I'm not a fan of luxury so this truck would be great for me.
best way to put this. don't you hate when you just got the new Iphone and not even a week later they release a new one and your just stuck there looking at your now outdated phone. well you don't have to worry about that with the Tundra.
You can know who is really into trucks by the way the review (complaining) is done, This guy should stick to reviewing something else. I need a simple reliable truck with some creature comforts that are easy and affordable to maintain. This engine is simple and super reliable.
King of Old School 5 Best Tundra features, that it should keep for next generation: 1. 5.7 V8: Just needs a new transmission, The engine is the bright spot. A good base engine. 2. Power rear window: Taken from the 4Runner. No downsides to having this class-exclusive feature 3. Size: The truck is the right size, so you don't need to re-invent the wheel 4. TRD Pro Bits: The upgraded grille, the cat-back exhaust, and the riveted flares all pop 5. Prices: The most expensive Tundra sells for under $50k, after negotiation/discount
I was going to buy a new 2023 Tundra with the untested V6 turbo, BUT I decided to buy a 2021 Limited TRD Off Road with 11,000 miles on it. Nothing like proven reliability for $45,000 than untested with thin plastic insides to make you change your mind quickly!!
These were built to last and be handed down to your kids unlike the modern "domestics" that are basically disposable fleet vehicles. Shares many of its parts with the Land Cruiser.
I know a ton of people with 10, 15, 20 plus year old ford's that are still running man. Don't generalize, there are some good domestic brands like Ford, some bad like Fca, some good Japanese brands like Toyota, and some bad Japanese brands like Nissan.
My buddys 2016 with over 100k miles gives him less trouble than my other friend with an 18 Silverado at 70k. Not everyone wants the Ram S class of trucks.
If Toyota give focus on trucks like they did with SUV’s. The market share of the domestic will surely drop - trucks is the only segment that domestic automakers are leading.
I don’t see anything wrong with the inside or outside of the truck. The info screen is big enough and everything else looks high quality. The new US trucks are over the top in terms of price and features
For all intents and purposes, these vehicles are not meant for daily driving - unless you like burning cash. I’m fine the fuel economy is poor, at least it’s a reliable truck.
Toyota is able to basically give these away on lease because they have invested so little in development. The fact they still sell so many of these and the 4Runner shows Toyota has zero commitment to a sustainable future.
@@frumpd63 it doesn't get 10 mpg, maybe if you drive like a madman, but i know guys who have these and get right on par with the ecoboost ford. I'm sure it is safe enough.
@MAGA JD Power is a poor assessment of reliability. If you told me Nissan wasn't reliable I'd believe you, but Toyota? Clearly most people disagree with you assessment as Toyota just surpassed VW as the biggest carmaker.
@MAGA everyone has recalls, but Toyota and Honda tend to fix them. Most people who buy Toyota’s keep buying them, that says a lot. You won’t be able to convince me that buying a Silverado or Ram is a better choice.
I own a 2018 Tundra Platinum. The 2020/2021 design looks the same with exception to the smart key and apply CarPlay etc. but in the end, Tundras will last longer than a F-150 or Ram. I can’t wait until Toyota unveils a new design for the Toyota Tundra.
Good! No direct injection. For all the proposed fuel savings it's not worth it. Just port injection, no wonder the Tundra engine lasts forever, clean valves, no carbon buildup, less problematic.
People whom are interested in this truck, similarity to the 4Runner and Taco, know what they are getting in to. At least I hope so haha. It’s common knowledge that they won’t have all the latest tech and luxury features as the other brands, but that’s the charm of these bad boys. Man I love the TRD trims🤤
When something does its job, is rugged, reliable and maintainable, why does it need to be "updated"? The reviewer has a body that hasn't changed design in +15,000 years. Does it need bigger feet, longer legs, a new color skin, a window in its skull, or a "technology update"? IMO, it may need a better-trained brain.
The Tundra and Sequoia though their competitors are flashier and have more features, I'd still be more comfortable putting my money on the Toyotas because I know they'll last way past my last payment. The cosmetic updates are just right and the Nightshade option is really cool. Love the normally aspirated V8, coming from a Ford Excursion V10, 13-17mpg is great gas mileage LOL!
I personally think it looks way different than the 10 years ago. I just bought a 21 tundra crewmax and I came from 3 chevys. I hated how the body style change so much and so quickly. If you bought a new Chevy in 5 years it's a old look. The main thing I would change is the chrome on the truck. Chrome is for my grandfather's generation. It's the best truck I ever owned. Three (3) things they should do. 1. Make a dually/ diesel version. 2. Come with 2" to 4" lift. 3. Front wheel wells able to clear 35" tires
Right now with limited production prices are up, especially on used. I was offered $1000 more than I paid in March 2020 to trade in. I got 1 year of driving free in a new truck and put it toward a 2021 TRD Pro.
This is a real man's truck. Sorry it doesn't have any of the fancy tech that all the new offerings have, but all that is just more expensive stuff that can tear up and will eventually need replacement. I think you were unnecessarily judgemental on this truck. No true truck person drives a $70k+ truck. This is a timeless truck with proven reliability, great base engine power, and excellent functionality. Stop judging this truck for being too old. Of course its old, but not everyone wants the tech of a Tesla in their truck.
It's always about RELIABILITY. I have a Toyota Tundra 2002, 157,000 miles plus, and still going STRONG. I would not purchase an American Car or Truck. It's about QUALITY and RELIABILITY, I don't need all the Bell and Whistles that Ford and Dodge has to after. If it's in the Service Center more than on the Road it's of no use to me. It's all about RELIABILITY, RELIABILITY, AND MORE RELIABILITY. The Tundra Best Truck on the Market.
Personally I really like chrome. If I was going to buy a full size truck that's pretty close to the spec I would get. It's really not that big of a deal that it's old. I think the only thing they really need to do is throw the LC500h engine into it and call it a day.
They don't sell as much because they last forever. That's why real ones love them, like to keep vehicles 10 years plus. Some people don't care about new tech with all the bells and whistles.
LEDs do that depending on the frame rate of the video. Where I work replace fluorescent lights with LEDs and all slow motion videos now look like that.
Honestly I think everything the tundra does is adequate and well enough. Let the big 3 try to outdo each other with their interiors and tailgate tech. Although I do agree that the tundra gas mileage is horrible, toyota has just been chilling for the past 7-8 years now and refined everything to the point where its pretty much profit lol same with the Titan but at least nissan actually gives a damn about trying to make their products better considering where they're at right now
As a General Contractor for 27 years, I think I have spent the majority of my life in a pickup truck. I consider myself an authority on every aspect of using trucks. Let's be brutally honest, the majority of truck owners are contractors who use their truck as a means of making getting to and from the job, not going to Costco on the weekends to pick up a new case of toilet paper (Covid joke). They go to Home Depot, lumber yards, hauling dirt, going to the dump. Even the insides of their trucks although may look clean, they have a layer of dust and dirt. Power tools, left over lunches, construction debris are all over. Rear shells with lumber racks are common place. There isn't something on the truck that hasn't been broken by a 2x4 thrown into it. Its a mode of transportation and a means of making money. Whenever I watch a review of trucks, such as Redline Reviews, you test the highest trim level. That's wonderful, however, the majority of truck owners will buy the cheapest and/or mid-grade level as a means of maximizing profit for their JOB. We don't have the LUXURY (let alone the financial "means") of buying a maxed out "pretty" truck. I am always disappointed to hear a review saying that you should get this level of trim, because its the most comfortable and "technologically" best buy. NO it isn't. Contractors have a hard and demanding job and really want something reliable and will hold up from all the abuse we put it through. At the end of the day, while its nice to have the latest and best toys in your vehicle, its just a mode of transportation that gets you to and from work. We use trucks like our hammer. It doesn't necessarily have to be the highest trim level, just as long as it works every time you need it. Just something "good enough", and I don't have to work for my truck. My truck should work for ME to make a living.
My Camry is really good on gas but at the same time it's not really good on gas it just depends on how it's driven. My is Camry says 21 MPG in the City and 31 MPG on the highway and the most I've ever gotten on the highway was 52 MPG on the highway and the lease was 26 MPG on the highway. The least I've gotten in the city was 15 MPG in the city in 29 MPG in the city. So I think it just depends on how the driver drives their vehicles. I'm not going to lie though I'm a heavy foot so my small little car is not fuel efficient and it's supposed to be. Only on long trips my Camry does good on gas. But short trips it's just as bad as the Tundra
@@mustasheolll2020 , seriously, I never cared how fancy or not my 4RUNNER key fob is. It’s a truck. Besides, stupid thing is in silicone holster anyway.
@@Stakan79 Does it really cost more to make one that looks like junk? Maybe Toyota is just keeping with the policy to sell a decades old truck unchanged.
So I own a 2018 Tundra Crew MAX Limited 4x2. Just turned 40k miles it is the same exterior color as your video version but grey leather. Doors and accents are grey/black. Clean looking. Cons: 1- yes fuel economy is horrible but I did not buy it for fuel economy. I bought it for reliability. If you really maintain this truck it will last 20 years+. 2-JBL sound system I will have to admit is absolutely embarrassingly horribly BAD....I could go on and on about how Toyota/JBL jacked this up. My expedition XL will blow this away any day. My plan is just to have a aftermarket system installed. Did I mention how bad Toyota and JBL screwed this up 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️. 3-Factory tires. Just horrible. I just changed to Michelin. It drives like a totally different truck. Totally different. If you buy a new Tundra immediately change to the Michelin brand of tire. Now I use mine as a on road highway truck not a 4x4. My Michelin tires are the 275/55/20 Defender LTX M/S. This is in my opinion the best riding tire in the market 💪💪. I have this also on my personal Expedition XL, my company Fleet of Suburbans and F150’s. They give each of them a exceptional ride quality and they last in excess of 60-70k miles if you treat them properly. So a great value for the cost. 4-collision system has been replaced 3x but it works properly now. I think I got one of the first systems in the first trucks put out. Toyota fixed it eventually. Purchased my 2018 model in November 2017. 5-navigation- OUTDATED to say the least for this price point truck. Pros 1-it holds it value better than Ford, Chevy,dodge. Reliability is 100%. 2-Interior space is HUGE. 3-I still get people telling me how beautiful it is. I don’t think it’s outdated. The Porsche 911 has had the same basic design since the beginning. If it’s not broke don’t fix it. Small changes over a long period. I own a automation company in the automotive industry and we work in most of the major automotive companies. We see the changes and what they cost. We are spoiled as customers to have to have so much change so often. It does not make sense. This is the reason why automobiles have become so expensive but it’s just not needed. This truck looks good, rides good with the proper tires. Fix a few things I mentioned above and you have a even better truck. Spend a few $ and make it your own and keep it up and drive it 500k. If you really “OCD” maintain it like I do you can get 1m miles out of it if you want. Take care of it. Don’t just waste money and keep buying new to keep up with everyone else. 4-adding some sort of hybrid system will help in fuel mileage. Maybe look at gearing and a 8 speed transmission. 5-The engine is perfect. Who cares about 0-60 it’s not a race car 🤣🙈. It’s a daily driver truck for Gods sake. It does what it was designed to do and does it very well. It was not designed to go to the track or race the guy in the Ford Raptor beside him at the stop light. 😂🤦🏼♂️ 6-Suspension. I will say that with the factory tires the suspension has a very firm feeling but change the tires to the ones above and it totally changes the ride of this truck drastically. The tires make the difference. 7-headlights/fog lights are great. 8-Interior to me is perfectly fine and is very comfortable. It simply works. I am not buying a Bentley. Note: if you’re worried about putting gas in this truck DO NOT buy it. You can’t afford it. You know what your buying. We also don’t care about heated steering wheels. We don’t care about the larger display. It’s fine. Top down display is not necessary. Just learn how to drive. What a concept. Again keep it simple. Don’t make them turn this into a $70-80k truck. Mine with the sunroof and 100k full warranty was $56k. That is still high but much less than the competitors. Overall I would buy this truck again. The value “for it” is greater than the cons. Remember your also buying reliability. The more crap it has.... the more that will break. Eventually. KISS = keep it simple stupid.
You complained about everything in this truck. Most people like me want a nice reliable truck like this one. This one will outlast every vehicle youre comparing it to. Just give an honest review without telling people what you prefer.
I’m glad I didn’t bother wasting my time at the Toyota Dealer last year when it was time to get rid of my 2008 Tundra. Crappy brakes, horrible ride, and thin paint weren’t worth saving a few bucks to stay with Toyota. While Ford and Chevy cost more, you get what you pay for. For those who swear Toyota’s are bullet proof, my Tundra had a water pump before 40000 miles and the rear bearing issue not covered by Toyota. I spent thousands on repairs to get that truck to 106000 miles. Bye bye Toyota.
They are bulletproof, but not everyone has the same experience from cars, I have 2 cars, a 06 Expedition, those are known for cam phaser issues and the spark plug breaking off into the head issue, I haven't had any issues, just regular maintenance, I have just bought a 09 S63 AMG, that are known for headbolt issues with earlier 6.2 and so far, I haven't had any issues... Even the most reliable cars can have issues.
If you’re buying a pickup truck or large suv I really doubt fuel economy is of high priority Just like if you buy a luxury car I doubt the cost of something breaking is an issue since you coughed up so much money for that luxury car
Lol well I'm talking about hd pickup. I own a Chevy hd and would swap in a minute . Not a medium size freighter. I've driven hinos in the past, they were interesting compared to freightliners and internationals .
There's not much you can do with a truck exterior and still call it a truck (cybertruck) Toyota is doing fine...just lower the price by 7 -10k sales would be through the roof
I bought this truck the year it came out. It still runs exactly the same. Over 100,000 miles. I have hauled, towed, and use it like a truck should be used. I've done nothing but gas, tires, brakes, and oil. I thought about buying a new one. But when I really thought it over, I just decided to splurge on a new stereo system and custom speakers. She's got another 14 years in her... easy
Dude keep the truck. The extra gas being used is probably lubricating the valves, unlike most newer car that do direct injection. Nothing wrong with SOME thirsty cars as the gas can help lubricate the top end internals that the oil can't always reach
@@792bnz well the other great part is that truck has been paid for a long time so anything it needs it will get. That's one thing I do like about my Lexus RCF it is both port and fuel injected.
@@DebianDog I owned a 2017 5.7 Crewmax 4x4 brand new. A V8 Titan scrapped my truck in a hit and run. I tried catching up to get the license plate and my Tundra was too slow. That's on top on considering it is the highest gas guzzler in it's class.
@@DebianDog I paid around 48k if I remember correctly for my 2017 Tundra. I sold it to a Honda dealership for $35,000 Check in early 2019. Surprisingly they didn't do a walk around. They didn't see the damage until after I had the check. It wasn't big damage but a single noticeable deep scrape on the passenger side quarter bedside panel.
Nice truck, Nice Brand, hope it will soon hit the Philippine shore
No shifter that folds, no full digital dashboard, no gigantic touchscreen. No gimmicks that can break. Just a solid truck with time-proven components. I traded a 2017 F-150 for a 2020 Tundra Limited. It has all the tech I need and I know I won’t get recall notices every other month for stupid stuff.
I've had 2 Ford F150's the 3.5 eco boost and the 5.4 V8 and a Ram 1500 with the Hemi. Since i've driven each of these three trucks for well over 400,000 miles I would take the Toyota or Nissan everytime. Both Ford and Ram had mechanical issues at 120,000 miles and significant amount of money at the dealers to get fixed. I've seen these Tundra's with 400-500 thousand kilometers at the dealerships. The gas mileage is the same on ALL of them, i've never got better than 15-17 MPG in any of them.
Interesting to hear your experiences with the EcoBoost. I was wondering how they would hold up after some serious mileage and you concerned my suspicions. The Nissan and Toyota might be ancient now but I think in terms of reliability the naturally aspirated old tech holds up better under hard use. Have a good day and thanks for sharing.
Everyone’s experience is different since no two vehicles ever seem to be the same, even if they rolled off the assembly line right after each other. My 2008 Tundra 5.7L that I bought new got 13 city and 13 highway. My 2019 Ford 3.5 eco, also new, gets 16 city and 20 highway. The Tundra was a money pit, some covered under warranty but a lot of repairs not. Water pumps should last longer than 40000 miles. Defective design or manufacture rear wheel bearings should last longer than 50000 miles and be covered under warranty, they were $1200. Defective catalytic converters and starter, yep also before 100000 miles. I spent thousands getting that Toyota to 106000 miles before getting rid of it. Like I said everyone’s experience is different. I will be totally honest too and say I purchased one hell of a bumper to bumper warranty on the F150, it has three times the technology to break over the Toyota. I think 10 years out of any vehicle is pushing it these days with all the cost cutting by manufacturers.
Well that’s my two cents, I know you didn’t ask for it, lol.
So magically you've driven all of them 400,000 miles each...but you'll stick to Nissan(has al kind if reliability issues) and Toyota that's just old. Putting 1.2 million miles on trucks and then not only pick 2 trucks that are uncomfortable, but one is unreliable. Lol .
That's impressive you made it to 120k without serious issues in a ford, I have owned around 350 fords and the failure rate is almost criminal
Ford ? Who still buy a ford ?
The older I get, the more I like "old"...
I LOVE my simple, reliable 2020 Tundra. That equates to "comfort" on several levels to me.
You’re not alone. Looking for a 2021 myself. Luxury to me is not worrying if the vehicle will last or not. Reliability is impossible to find nowadays
Jay Leno said in a recent video “ The last years of old tech are better than the first years of new tech”.
Bought a 21 platinum over testing 23's sure glad I did.
@@bigdan4698like your platinum still? Looking to buy either a 1794 or platinum ‘21. Both look like great trucks, just really comes down to preference imo. I need to haul two littles and a camper think this fits the bill perfectly.
There isn't a single kink that hasn't been ironed out in 14 years. This is as close to the bulletproof as you'll ever get.
Leaky cam towers is something they still haven’t fixed, but by and large you’re correct. They’re very solid trucks.
Should be really reliable as they've had 14 years to work out all the bugs.
Smart buyers who keep their stuff always get the last year of a generation for this reason.
Never had any ' bugs'
2007 Tundra with over a million miles. Never had any bugs to begin with. Reliability from day one.
They removed Transmission coolers which was mistake in my opinion
@@thomasnguyen5639 Tundras never had any bugs I've had two and they are flawless.
That "dinosaur" will still last longer than most of it's new and redesigned competitors haha. Technology and design change over every 2-3 years. Quality lasts decades.
Agreed, Quality always lasts
Meanwhile on the "competition", breaking down with AFM related issues after 100k miles 😂😂
Cam issues, etc
Well said.
even though they dont sell many, each sale is pure profit since the R&D and tooling have long been paid for
True
Lmao. Every auto maker r and d is paid for. They're all worth billions on dollars
@@nickr3441 Well what they're saying is let's say ford invests 2 billion in developing the new f-150, it probably spent more but still. It takes a while to get a return on your investment. With how insanely popular the fseries is, it probably only takes ford a year or so. But that's what they mean, you need to make back that money you spent on development expenses before you can really profit from an investment.
That’s is an interesting perspective. It makes sense to delay revamping such a functional truck.
Where do you people come up with this stuff? The Tundra has the highest build cost of ALL half tons, due to the extreme component quality, that's how they achieve million miles trucks
My 2015 Tundra Truck TRD Pro still runs like new, towing my 30 footer camping trailer every summer, hauling my 2 ATV's non stop. I don't mind about the gas mileage b'coz I bought my truck for a purpose. It's a solid and very reliable truck you can't find these days! I'm glad that I bought a Toyota Tundra Truck TRD Pro!
Outdated but also is very reliable.
Yesss we all know that.... but why buy this new?
@@paladin3116 probably for the warranty and resale value. oh, and the new car smell lol.
But seriously though, i agree with your comment. The engines in these trucks are immortal anyways, so it is a better value to buy an older tundra as long as there is not too much rust.
@@asdfghjqwertyu1858 you can literally buy these used with low miles for 40% less and its the same exact thing. i dont think the smell is worth saving 20k lol
@@paladin3116 ok but for others it is
@@srt4788 nice explanation
Never really understood why the Sequoia didn't receive this Tundra's interior. That would have done a lot to make it more modern
Exactly!
The newer interior is so bland looking, I like the 2007-2013 interior way more. That interior is still nice, the Design of the 2007 - present Tundra all together has aged tremendously well.
I can’t wait for their redesigned in 2022
Ya I doubt that
@@adilsagadiyev5090 yea it’s all over the internet it’s due for a redesign in 2022
So it's gonna use a twin turbocharged 3.5 v6, sounds a little familiar to those interested in f-150s ;) it's also rumored that this will be a hybrid like the power boost f150. Where things get interesting is people in the know are saying the new Tundra will be a turbocharged v6 only, no more v8s, or NA models. Not sure if I believe that but it would be interesting if that's the case.
@@toy4tao Yeah, Toyota's are reliable, but they're hideous.
@@KB-bh9hp yea it may be like a Ford except it’s actually reliable
My dad’s 2008 Tundra still looks modern 😂
that gen still looks better than the current gen. US News World Report dissed it for looking like a whale, but I thought it looked much better than the f150 and Silverado of that year.
It does. That design has aged really well.
I have a 2008 - bought the truck in 2013 with 25k on the dash. It now has 96k and runs strong. Excellent truck, I live in Massachusetts where snow falls and summers are humid.
Replaced water pump and timing chain, air valves , aftermarket wheels and general grabber mud tires, dvd stereo.
Remember..2008-2012 were some of the million mile tundras. 5.7 liter V8 is solid
@@SD80 My dad's 2008 Tundra only has 36k miles 😅. Only used for family road trips lol
@Officialhiddentest....only issue with this model was air pump failure. This air pump will make stop accelerating beyond 50mph. Truck is fine , it’s in limp mode until the air pump can be replaced. Otherwise it’s a tank
The TRD PRO Tundra still looks great!
You can beat the dead horse on this for another 15 years man but guess what? Its still gonna be working in the next 15 years lmao.
Well, I just bought one of these yesterday, slightly used with 12k miles and 10's of thousands less than a comparable new truck, its black with the same interior color. A vast improvement over my 2017 Ram 1500 that I traded for it. I will be driving this truck long after the competitors trucks are worn out with those ridiculously complex V6 turbo motors that while powerful, have to work a lot harder to accomplish the task. As for all the tech, that's just more stuff that can break... and cost a fortune to repair. Sometimes simpler is better and I have had nothing but admiring compliments from people who have seen it so far. I think Toyota has made a mistake going to the twin turbo V6 as well. You just can't replace the V-8 sound and smoothness.
nice "2021" model. might as well be the 2010 model at this point.
Its simple that’s why people love it and it’s reliable
Crappy gas mileage
@@bngr_bngr i think there is a lower trim model where it has a gasoline engine a hybrid and a battery pack in the back seat i think its a prius trim level, if youre complaing about gas mileage this is a working truck my guy not a daily it can be if you can afford the gas its pretty obvious if you can afford this truck you can afford the gas
@@andreaswanepoel2136 Not saying it is per sé bad. But I think at least on the interior part, they could do better. But I also understand that there is a group of people that appreciates the simplicity. For reliability and if you keep your truck for 15 years etc.etc. (typical Toyota arguments) nothing is as good as this. But to everyone else there are much more appealing, better driving, more technologically advanced options, especially for this cash. If reliability is your only reason to buy a car, just get a second had Toyota with 30000-60000 miles, save some cash, since you don't care about the new stuff anyway. You have no reason to shell out so much money for a "new" product that doesn't feel new at all in my opinion.
Eres Wey the Ford F150 gets better gas mileage.
I have a 2019 Tacoma that I absolutely love because its "outdated." Real gauges, manual leather seats, no huge screen, hydraulic steering, and a manual transmission.
Sexy truck. To me that perfect. My Camry is the most outdated sedan ever. But the car is reliable. Everything still works like new. No mechanical or electrical or technology issues. Reliability and durability matters to me. My car has plastic everywhere but that'll be last for decades. I'm an old school type of guy anyways. To me this version of the tundra is perfect. I'm not a fan of luxury so this truck would be great for me.
best way to put this. don't you hate when you just got the new Iphone and not even a week later they release a new one and your just stuck there looking at your now outdated phone. well you don't have to worry about that with the Tundra.
You can know who is really into trucks by the way the review (complaining) is done, This guy should stick to reviewing something else.
I need a simple reliable truck with some creature comforts that are easy and affordable to maintain.
This engine is simple and super reliable.
King of Old School
5 Best Tundra features, that it should keep for next generation:
1. 5.7 V8: Just needs a new transmission, The engine is the bright spot. A good base engine.
2. Power rear window: Taken from the 4Runner. No downsides to having this class-exclusive feature
3. Size: The truck is the right size, so you don't need to re-invent the wheel
4. TRD Pro Bits: The upgraded grille, the cat-back exhaust, and the riveted flares all pop
5. Prices: The most expensive Tundra sells for under $50k, after negotiation/discount
The TRD cat-back exhaust sounds nice at first but it gets pretty old after just a few minutes.
I was going to buy a new 2023 Tundra with the untested V6 turbo, BUT I decided to buy a 2021 Limited TRD Off Road with 11,000 miles on it. Nothing like proven reliability for $45,000 than untested with thin plastic insides to make you change your mind quickly!!
These were built to last and be handed down to your kids unlike the modern "domestics" that are basically disposable fleet vehicles.
Shares many of its parts with the Land Cruiser.
I know a ton of people with 10, 15, 20 plus year old ford's that are still running man. Don't generalize, there are some good domestic brands like Ford, some bad like Fca, some good Japanese brands like Toyota, and some bad Japanese brands like Nissan.
@@KB-bh9hp these old Fords are reliable. Good luck with these modern turbo Ford trucks
@@leonchen89 I know quite a few people with ecoboost f-150s and they're all running great.
@@KB-bh9hp no doubt those will go the distance the difference in my experience is the yotas will get there with the least amount of repairs
Why change something that isn't broken?! Yes it's old but it will last a lifetime.
@Anna Carson It looks and feels wayy older than 2021, that’s the problem.
As long as the engine and transmission is reliable that’s all that matters.
These will make sweet used trucks in a couple years.
wont be cheap with yota rsv
@@tinhinnh true. But cheaper than the 2022 and with a V8
My buddys 2016 with over 100k miles gives him less trouble than my other friend with an 18 Silverado at 70k. Not everyone wants the Ram S class of trucks.
Toyota knows their market for sure
If Toyota give focus on trucks like they did with SUV’s. The market share of the domestic will surely drop - trucks is the only segment that domestic automakers are leading.
I don’t see anything wrong with the inside or outside of the truck. The info screen is big enough and everything else looks high quality. The new US trucks are over the top in terms of price and features
Longevity is the name of the game... 500k miles easy. Love these trucks and SUV reviews. Something different from just sports cars all the time.
I absolutely love this truck. Build to last unlike new crap
New vehicles statistically and factually speaking are generally more reliable.
Reliability is the only thing Toyota has going for it
And we could say the same thing about some germans car just having shit to break lol.
I agree with you but if that's the #1 thing you care about then this is the truck for you.
This truck is awsum and you know its going to run forever
Much prefer the chrome vs. black out. Love the chrome!
Glad someone else does! Everyone seems to hate it. I like contrast. These people have the same color rims as the tires!
@@arachnofan73 Contrast adds visual interest in my view.
The perennial “catching-up” truck.
I would buy a Toyota over domestic trucks for 2 reasons.....RELIABILITY AND RESALE!
Didn't they just become the worlds top selling car manufacture?
AWESOME. Toyota Tundra 1 badass truck on planet Earth.
The new Tundra is coming out this year.
He probably filmed this is mid December.
For all intents and purposes, these vehicles are not meant for daily driving - unless you like burning cash. I’m fine the fuel economy is poor, at least it’s a reliable truck.
Toyota is able to basically give these away on lease because they have invested so little in development. The fact they still sell so many of these and the 4Runner shows Toyota has zero commitment to a sustainable future.
Ahhh I will tell you what is sustainable, a truck that that lasts 500k, and there is no other half ton that can say that.
@@andrewmeehan6151 500k miles at 10 mpg with terrible safety ratings to boot. Nope.
@@frumpd63 it doesn't get 10 mpg, maybe if you drive like a madman, but i know guys who have these and get right on par with the ecoboost ford. I'm sure it is safe enough.
@MAGA JD Power is a poor assessment of reliability. If you told me Nissan wasn't reliable I'd believe you, but Toyota?
Clearly most people disagree with you assessment as Toyota just surpassed VW as the biggest carmaker.
@MAGA everyone has recalls, but Toyota and Honda tend to fix them. Most people who buy Toyota’s keep buying them, that says a lot. You won’t be able to convince me that buying a Silverado or Ram is a better choice.
I own a 2018 Tundra Platinum. The 2020/2021 design looks the same with exception to the smart key and apply CarPlay etc. but in the end, Tundras will last longer than a F-150 or Ram. I can’t wait until Toyota unveils a new design for the Toyota Tundra.
Good! No direct injection. For all the proposed fuel savings it's not worth it. Just port injection, no wonder the Tundra engine lasts forever, clean valves, no carbon buildup, less problematic.
Buy a F150 for tech, Trail Boss Silverado for off road, Ram 1500 for interior and a Tundra for a reliable truck that just works.
100000% accurate
People whom are interested in this truck, similarity to the 4Runner and Taco, know what they are getting in to. At least I hope so haha. It’s common knowledge that they won’t have all the latest tech and luxury features as the other brands, but that’s the charm of these bad boys. Man I love the TRD trims🤤
Gas is cheap compared to a massive repair bill.
tried and true is what I was looking for when I got mine.
I want to listen that the competitors offer the reliability of the Tundra. But they just can't.
@coffeeinthemorning 300K miles without a problem in power train, versus a big screen, give a break, who wants that?
When something does its job, is rugged, reliable and maintainable, why does it need to be "updated"? The reviewer has a body that hasn't changed design in +15,000 years. Does it need bigger feet, longer legs, a new color skin, a window in its skull, or a "technology update"?
IMO, it may need a better-trained brain.
The 4:30 rear differential gears are what contribute greatly to the lower fuel economy.
I would not spend my money on this old truck, i would rather buy nissan titan or f150
Dude is super critical of this truck but I would take this old reliable dinosaur over any of the options out today!
Does this have 4 wheel drive? I dont see the 4WD shifter anywhere.
Love those glasses! May I ask what brand? Keep putting out great content love your videos.
The Tundra and Sequoia though their competitors are flashier and have more features, I'd still be more comfortable putting my money on the Toyotas because I know they'll last way past my last payment. The cosmetic updates are just right and the Nightshade option is really cool. Love the normally aspirated V8, coming from a Ford Excursion V10, 13-17mpg is great gas mileage LOL!
That is the same key fob from my wife's 2014 RAV4!
Nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned. It works and since it's push button start anyways the key fob will barely get used.
Dated maybe but still better than the big three...
I told you do all you videos in 1080p 60 or 4k 60
I personally think it looks way different than the 10 years ago. I just bought a 21 tundra crewmax and I came from 3 chevys. I hated how the body style change so much and so quickly. If you bought a new Chevy in 5 years it's a old look.
The main thing I would change is the chrome on the truck. Chrome is for my grandfather's generation.
It's the best truck I ever owned. Three (3) things they should do.
1. Make a dually/ diesel version.
2. Come with 2" to 4" lift.
3. Front wheel wells able to clear 35" tires
Also..... chevy fuel economy:
They lie..... I was only getting 11mpg so don't believe the hype.
So what’s the great discount on that Dino ?
Zero, they don't care because someone will be along shortly to buy it!
@@klasseact6663 IDK, I have been offered $6off a highline Tundra before
@@BrogeKilrain end of year?
@@klasseact6663 No, but that 13mpg is the killer
Right now with limited production prices are up, especially on used. I was offered $1000 more than I paid in March 2020 to trade in. I got 1 year of driving free in a new truck and put it toward a 2021 TRD Pro.
This is a real man's truck. Sorry it doesn't have any of the fancy tech that all the new offerings have, but all that is just more expensive stuff that can tear up and will eventually need replacement. I think you were unnecessarily judgemental on this truck. No true truck person drives a $70k+ truck. This is a timeless truck with proven reliability, great base engine power, and excellent functionality. Stop judging this truck for being too old. Of course its old, but not everyone wants the tech of a Tesla in their truck.
R and R folks! The domestics don't compare when it comes to reliability and resale. Toyota all day long...
This truck 1794 edition at $55,000 msrp is equivalent to the Ford 150 Lariat at $70,000 msrp.
Curious how are you wearing a T-shirt in February in DC? Are you still in the DMV area?
It's always about RELIABILITY. I have a Toyota Tundra 2002, 157,000 miles plus, and still going STRONG. I would not purchase an American Car or Truck. It's about QUALITY and RELIABILITY, I don't need all the Bell and Whistles that Ford and Dodge has to after. If it's in the Service Center more than on the Road it's of no use to me. It's all about RELIABILITY, RELIABILITY, AND MORE RELIABILITY. The Tundra Best Truck on the Market.
Personally I really like chrome. If I was going to buy a full size truck that's pretty close to the spec I would get. It's really not that big of a deal that it's old. I think the only thing they really need to do is throw the LC500h engine into it and call it a day.
Please put that motor in the Taco Pro
They don't sell as much because they last forever. That's why real ones love them, like to keep vehicles 10 years plus. Some people don't care about new tech with all the bells and whistles.
You say dated. I say powerful, rugged and reliable.
Just wondering why the screen kept flashing like it was about to go out since we own a 2020 tundra platinum and it has the same screen
LEDs do that depending on the frame rate of the video. Where I work replace fluorescent lights with LEDs and all slow motion videos now look like that.
Honestly I think everything the tundra does is adequate and well enough. Let the big 3 try to outdo each other with their interiors and tailgate tech. Although I do agree that the tundra gas mileage is horrible, toyota has just been chilling for the past 7-8 years now and refined everything to the point where its pretty much profit lol same with the Titan but at least nissan actually gives a damn about trying to make their products better considering where they're at right now
As a General Contractor for 27 years, I think I have spent the majority of my life in a pickup truck. I consider myself an authority on every aspect of using trucks. Let's be brutally honest, the majority of truck owners are contractors who use their truck as a means of making getting to and from the job, not going to Costco on the weekends to pick up a new case of toilet paper (Covid joke). They go to Home Depot, lumber yards, hauling dirt, going to the dump. Even the insides of their trucks although may look clean, they have a layer of dust and dirt. Power tools, left over lunches, construction debris are all over. Rear shells with lumber racks are common place. There isn't something on the truck that hasn't been broken by a 2x4 thrown into it. Its a mode of transportation and a means of making money.
Whenever I watch a review of trucks, such as Redline Reviews, you test the highest trim level. That's wonderful, however, the majority of truck owners will buy the cheapest and/or mid-grade level as a means of maximizing profit for their JOB. We don't have the LUXURY (let alone the financial "means") of buying a maxed out "pretty" truck. I am always disappointed to hear a review saying that you should get this level of trim, because its the most comfortable and "technologically" best buy. NO it isn't. Contractors have a hard and demanding job and really want something reliable and will hold up from all the abuse we put it through. At the end of the day, while its nice to have the latest and best toys in your vehicle, its just a mode of transportation that gets you to and from work. We use trucks like our hammer. It doesn't necessarily have to be the highest trim level, just as long as it works every time you need it. Just something "good enough", and I don't have to work for my truck. My truck should work for ME to make a living.
Good thing gas prices are stuck in 2010 too
No that truck is sweet
My Camry is really good on gas but at the same time it's not really good on gas it just depends on how it's driven. My is Camry says 21 MPG in the City and 31 MPG on the highway and the most I've ever gotten on the highway was 52 MPG on the highway and the lease was 26 MPG on the highway. The least I've gotten in the city was 15 MPG in the city in 29 MPG in the city. So I think it just depends on how the driver drives their vehicles. I'm not going to lie though I'm a heavy foot so my small little car is not fuel efficient and it's supposed to be. Only on long trips my Camry does good on gas. But short trips it's just as bad as the Tundra
Perhaps the cheapest looking key fob ever. Looks like a $2 replacement from China.
That key fob screams late 2000s
Who gives a crap about key fob? It’s a truck.
@@Stakan79 Yeah, Exactly. IT’S A TRUCK. Don’t discriminate against trucks man.
@@mustasheolll2020 , seriously, I never cared how fancy or not my 4RUNNER key fob is. It’s a truck. Besides, stupid thing is in silicone holster anyway.
@@Stakan79 Does it really cost more to make one that looks like junk? Maybe Toyota is just keeping with the policy to sell a decades old truck unchanged.
2022 model should be revealed by at least the end of the year. I hope you review it right of way.
Take a shot every time he says competitor
Can’t wait for the next generation tundra
@@arrogen2831 agreed
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
So I own a 2018 Tundra Crew MAX Limited 4x2. Just turned 40k miles it is the same exterior color as your video version but grey leather. Doors and accents are grey/black. Clean looking.
Cons:
1- yes fuel economy is horrible but I did not buy it for fuel economy. I bought it for reliability. If you really maintain this truck it will last 20 years+.
2-JBL sound system I will have to admit is absolutely embarrassingly horribly BAD....I could go on and on about how Toyota/JBL jacked this up. My expedition XL will blow this away any day. My plan is just to have a aftermarket system installed. Did I mention how bad Toyota and JBL screwed this up 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️.
3-Factory tires. Just horrible. I just changed to Michelin. It drives like a totally different truck. Totally different. If you buy a new Tundra immediately change to the Michelin brand of tire. Now I use mine as a on road highway truck not a 4x4. My Michelin tires are the 275/55/20 Defender LTX M/S. This is in my opinion the best riding tire in the market 💪💪. I have this also on my personal Expedition XL, my company Fleet of Suburbans and F150’s. They give each of them a exceptional ride quality and they last in excess of 60-70k miles if you treat them properly. So a great value for the cost.
4-collision system has been replaced 3x but it works properly now. I think I got one of the first systems in the first trucks put out. Toyota fixed it eventually. Purchased my 2018 model in November 2017.
5-navigation- OUTDATED to say the least for this price point truck.
Pros
1-it holds it value better than Ford, Chevy,dodge. Reliability is 100%.
2-Interior space is HUGE.
3-I still get people telling me how beautiful it is. I don’t think it’s outdated. The Porsche 911 has had the same basic design since the beginning. If it’s not broke don’t fix it. Small changes over a long period. I own a automation company in the automotive industry and we work in most of the major automotive companies. We see the changes and what they cost. We are spoiled as customers to have to have so much change so often. It does not make sense. This is the reason why automobiles have become so expensive but it’s just not needed. This truck looks good, rides good with the proper tires. Fix a few things I mentioned above and you have a even better truck. Spend a few $ and make it your own and keep it up and drive it 500k. If you really “OCD” maintain it like I do you can get 1m miles out of it if you want. Take care of it. Don’t just waste money and keep buying new to keep up with everyone else.
4-adding some sort of hybrid system will help in fuel mileage. Maybe look at gearing and a 8 speed transmission.
5-The engine is perfect. Who cares about 0-60 it’s not a race car 🤣🙈. It’s a daily driver truck for Gods sake. It does what it was designed to do and does it very well. It was not designed to go to the track or race the guy in the Ford Raptor beside him at the stop light. 😂🤦🏼♂️
6-Suspension. I will say that with the factory tires the suspension has a very firm feeling but change the tires to the ones above and it totally changes the ride of this truck drastically. The tires make the difference.
7-headlights/fog lights are great.
8-Interior to me is perfectly fine and is very comfortable. It simply works. I am not buying a Bentley.
Note: if you’re worried about putting gas in this truck DO NOT buy it. You can’t afford it. You know what your buying. We also don’t care about heated steering wheels. We don’t care about the larger display. It’s fine. Top down display is not necessary. Just learn how to drive. What a concept. Again keep it simple. Don’t make them turn this into a $70-80k truck. Mine with the sunroof and 100k full warranty was $56k. That is still high but much less than the competitors.
Overall I would buy this truck again. The value “for it” is greater than the cons. Remember your also buying reliability. The more crap it has.... the more that will break. Eventually. KISS = keep it simple stupid.
You complained about everything in this truck. Most people like me want a nice reliable truck like this one. This one will outlast every vehicle youre comparing it to. Just give an honest review without telling people what you prefer.
This truck is wow 🤩 the redesign will be great I hope
Please review the 2022 Tundra Hybrid when it comes out. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Fast truck and God brakes
Is that wood fake? I feel like thats real burl
I would like to buy that jacket.
Make it a hybrid with at least 5,000 tow,capacity. MPG should be 25.
Sad how such a great truck cannot offer the creature comforts and safety that consumers need.
What do you drive and what creature comforts do you need that you use regularly?
Toyota...what if I told you that you could update a vehicle without changing the reliable powertrain...
They're using a 3.5 turbocharged v6 for the next gen apparently, so basically identical to ecoboost motors.
Oh my gosh, the interior of this truck looks like it’s 15 years old.
I’m glad I didn’t bother wasting my time at the Toyota Dealer last year when it was time to get rid of my 2008 Tundra. Crappy brakes, horrible ride, and thin paint weren’t worth saving a few bucks to stay with Toyota. While Ford and Chevy cost more, you get what you pay for. For those who swear Toyota’s are bullet proof, my Tundra had a water pump before 40000 miles and the rear bearing issue not covered by Toyota. I spent thousands on repairs to get that truck to 106000 miles. Bye bye Toyota.
They are bulletproof, but not everyone has the same experience from cars, I have 2 cars, a 06 Expedition, those are known for cam phaser issues and the spark plug breaking off into the head issue, I haven't had any issues, just regular maintenance, I have just bought a 09 S63 AMG, that are known for headbolt issues with earlier 6.2 and so far, I haven't had any issues... Even the most reliable cars can have issues.
If you’re buying a pickup truck or large suv I really doubt fuel economy is of high priority
Just like if you buy a luxury car I doubt the cost of something breaking is an issue since you coughed up so much money for that luxury car
Like people can mention the Ram all they want but my God the stories about the reliability of those new gen ramps , no thanks
They need to get into the heavy duty market! I'll buy one in a minute
Lol well I'm talking about hd pickup. I own a Chevy hd and would swap in a minute . Not a medium size freighter. I've driven hinos in the past, they were interesting compared to freightliners and internationals .
Ready for all the Toyota fan boys saying it’s reliable therefore better than every truck in the world. I am ready come at me
There's not much you can do with a truck exterior and still call it a truck (cybertruck)
Toyota is doing fine...just lower the price by 7 -10k sales would be through the roof
Don’t buy it. While not a bad truck, it ain’t worth the new price tag