Misconceptions: No metal in the Americas (Pt.2) (Sub. Español)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ธ.ค. 2018
- Metallic weaponry, iron cold-forging, bronze money, and many other developments using metals took place in the Americas over the past centuries, yet many of them remain in the darkness... but hopelly not for long
To learn more:
Andean bronze maces
scielo.conicyt.cl/scielo.php?... (in Spanish)
On metalworking among Arctic peoples:
www.penn.museum/sites/expedit...
Iron ore mining in the ancient Andes
www.purdue.edu/uns/x/2008a/08...
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I'm glad that you mention the iron working of the Inuit Tribes, Totem Nations and others of the North because it is rarely brought up by the media and academia.
Rarely brought up indeed, as many other native technologies from the New World :(
Once again, this is great. As an european, I never had to question these assumptions.
Glad you enjoyed the video :)
Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, very few people actually tries to know the ancient American cultures, and therefore only limit themselves to repeat misconceptions and perpetuate stereotypes, and I want to change that, and you know; it makes me so happy to be able to do something to achieve that! :D
I admit that I believed the "no metalworking" meme, and that I should've done research instead of believing lies. Thank you so much for teaching me something new, and I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Glad you enjoyed the video. And of course you'll have more videos, I still have a lot to talk about!
Damn you're just slaying me with your knowledge. All I got from internet research was the use of bronze axes against the Aztecs and Inca types of maces.
Holy crap. it's amazing that the Americas traded metallic weapons as currency. To my knowledge, the only other place in the world that also did this was China which used to use bronze knife money, and before that metallic spades.
Research on thse topics is difficult indeed; there's a lot of misinformation and myths that appear immediately you try to search these topics on the Internet. Fortunately I found some actual sites devoted to archaeological journals and that made this video possible :)
and yeah, there's a lot of things about the ancient Americas that are virtually ignored by mainstream media because they don't sell as well as the whole "Ancient Aliens" or "Forbidden Archaeology" bullshit :(
Hope I can make my contribution to dispell those myth as help people realize just how fascinating the pre-Columbian Americas really were :)
Glad you enjoyed the video. Hope you keep enjoying my content!
I found this subject fascinating. However, I'd also love to see a look into a field of technology where Americans were, arguably, far ahead. I'm specifically thinking of agronomy and the superior food crops they had developed which were unknown in Europe. Periodic famines in Europe didn't end until after the introduction of the "Irish" potato, and today much of Africa is sustained by maize. And yet, explorers took back to Europe only a tiny sample of the diverse cultivars that were in use.
It breath of fresh air that their are people talking about Native American and African history since it always ignored.
And that's something we love to do!
Exelente documental amigo! Muchas Gracias por indagar nuestra historia
Gracias por el elogio. Saludos desde Mexico
I just found your channel and watched both parts, I never knew this was a misconception, anyone that's been in a Native museum in the Americas would know. I'm interested in the relationship with Jade which was much more precious than gold in most of the Americas.
Many people still believe that the Americas lacked any metalworks, yet as you said, that couldn't be more false, and as for jade, that's a quite tricky subject as jade wasn't a thing in most of the Americas, so generalizing about its value all over the continent is something I wouldn't do
i love you man. doing the americas justice.
And I still have have a lot to cover! :D
Really interesting! Thanks!
Thanks so much for posting this; I love the whole series. On this subject in particular I have been very frustrated finding English-language sources; especially with regard to metallurgy in Ecuador and the trade links between that area and the Tarascans.
Glad you enjoyed the video
I've rarely looked into English-language sources, as I went straight for Spanish-language ones; although even those are not as abundant as one could wish, but to be fair, that has a lot to do woth the limited amount of evidence archaeologists and historians have to work with.
PD: By the way, "Tarascan" is a slur. The correct name is "Purepecha".
@@AztlanHistorian It always bothered me how often academic sources used that word, it makes me feel very weird to read or cite them. I never really understood its origin tho, it seems to be from the word taraskue. Is that just in reference to the Spanish forcing indigenous women to be their wives, making indigenous men their "fathers-in-law"? Or is there another reason that you know of?
Just wanted to say i love your vids man!
Hope you keep enjoying my work!
(deep breath) ahhhhh a breath of fresh knowledge
Indigenous Americans are so metal 😎🤘
There are huge iron deposits in North America. Much of it on top of the ground, easily picked up. Hard to imagine nobody used it at all.
Ironworks are something cultures develop if they have a need for it, and well, the Americas didn't create that need for their inhabitants.
Also non-meteoric iron is way harder to refine and work than gold or copper, and not everyone had the need to develop the technologies necessary to work it. So there's nothing unbelievable about native Americans ignoring iron as a resource; if anything the Eurasian shift towards iron is pretty enigmatic.
First for once :) very good video as usual
The GhostHero aw man you lucky I'm in school
Your too slow ;)
Is there a record of war tactic and martial art in Mesoamerican and the Andes. It would be very interesting topic.
There are some records, at least according to some articles I've read on ritual combat in Mesoamerica and the Andes. And yeah, they'd be one really interesting topic :)
@@AztlanHistorian I hope there is mesoamerican martial art revival like in europe. Like when they revive Ulama.
so it seems the problem was that a lack of horses meant that goods and ideas took much longer to proliferate and didn't go as far, so while one culture would have metalworking, it wouldn't rapidly spread into all the rest like in eurasia. horses make long distances and heavy cargo MUCH easier.
Question is that how much influence did Polynesians, East Asians(Chinese), And West Africans(Malians) have on certain Amerindian tribes prior to Columbus? Also The Vikings ran mostly into Eskimos rather then Amerindians in Greenland and Vikings settled in Greenland first while the climate weather and Eskimos drove them out
As far as archaeological evidence goes; None, zilch, ninguna, nenhuma.
Neither Polynesians, East Asians nor West Africans are proven to have reached the Americas before Columbus, so there's no reason to suppose they had any influence in the New World before the Columbian contact.
Don't Eskimos count as Amerindians? I thought Greenland is generally thought to be part of North America, geographically.
@@AztlanHistorian might want modify your statement, at least concerning whether the polynesians made contact with native Americans. There has been pretty convincing evidence that a contact event did happen in coastal Colombia 1,000-800 years ago.
@@ANTSEMUT1 You may want to share your sources and I hope the "evidence" isn't pottery-based, as the history of debunked authors claiming Polynesian or even Asian contact based on pottery is long.
Also, there was contact between Amerindians and Polynesians... in Polynesia, as proven by a recent DNA study in French Polynesia, but so far we don't have concrete evidence for such a contact in the Americas.
So, until I check that supposed evidence, I don't have any reason to change my statement. Greetings!
@@lordkratos6093No Eskimos And Aleuts are closer related to East Asians and some level Central Asians then they are to Amerindians yeah.
Awesome video I knew that Native Americans had metal weapons not just Europeans and Asians
And I'm working to make sure even more people also know that! :)
Man I thought I was first