Why he is the King of midlane
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This kind of content is amazing! Please do more on other positions as well 🙏🏻
Yes, pos 4 or 5 this would be sick
0:09 Handsome Squidward vs 0:15 Giga Chad
Lol
A cool play you skipped over at 19:48 after void dies and storm goes to get the rune, Wisp agros the wave so dire creeps go under tower and die before void respawns.
nice find!
Content is amazing so please do more of this. More on pos 2 wouldn’t mind either.
But man…. That mic, geez!
if dota was a more popular game my man Banana would have the $ for a professional streamer mic.
If you try to look for dota content you will see there are like 3 known youtubers, meanwhile in LoL there are tons and tons.
bzzz
Love this type of content.
It can be hard to think about mid matchups after a loss even when I watch my own replays, especially if they aren't common in the high mmr scene. These types of videos showing how pros approach the lane and how matchups play out is super helpful
rewatch your lanes from the enemy mid perspective and look for moments when they realized they were out of position and backed up and you didn't punish, and times obvious to them you were out of position and punished you
@@swordmeow3041I like the idea of watching specifcally from their POV, makes a lot of sense, thanks.
S-tier video. S-tier analysis. I like how it's speaking in specifics but very applicable to general matchups.
Laptop mic moment
Dude the audio
Why he is the King of midlane"Why Sumail's Aggressive Midlane Dominance Sets Him Apart from Quinn"
1:18: 🎮 Sumail demonstrates how to overcome a disadvantageous matchup in the mid lane.
6:07: 🔑 Sumail gains an advantage over Quinn in the midlane by denying creeps and harassing him effectively.
7:44: 📝 Sumail prioritizes denying creeps and harassing Quinn in the mid lane matchup
.12:03: 🔑 Sumail demonstrates aggressive positioning and denies to secure a CS lead against Quinn.
16:40: :fire: Sumail makes a clever move to deny Quinn a rune and disrupt the lane equilibrium.
19:45: 📝 Sumail dominates mid lane, but Quinn makes a comeback with a coordinated move
23:47: 🔥 X discusses the aggressive playstyle of two midlaners, Sumail and Quinn.Recap
punching the wave at lvl 1 as ranged vs melee is good for the reasons BSJ said, no double wave etc, but its also a lot about the meta surrounding bottle and rushing it before the 2 minute mark for water runes. if you can make your opponent miss that timing and either cede both to you or just lose the two bottle charges the rune would give them, it can honestly auto-win some matchups, like this one because once ember is out of mana he is a pretty easy kill for QOP, either that or he conserves his mana but then loses out on more and more CS which snowballs the lane in radiant's favor. since water runes melee mids are super awkward to play if your CS is less than perfect.
15:44 id like to add that sumail does not ward highgroudn so quin cant draw aggro like here where he would like to, the way to play for quin is to go close to range creep that's giving vision and then draw aggro too btw
In both games, boboka comes right before the 4 min rune to secure an advantage for sumail. Amazing synergy between them always
You had me on "In the wise words of Jenkins - There is always game Two." I lol'd right there.
I like this idea for vids BSJ. I want to see how pro tier pos 5 player's decisions and movements help their team win the game from a macro perspective please...
Yes, do more!! I miss this type of content, as im not super new but still i dont know why some pro players are so hailed, so this close up look is very helpful and cool to watch
Seems BSJ used the wrong mic lol.
Great video thanks BSJ. Walking through the thought process and reasoning for it is very useful
1 thing I wish there was in dota is a 1v1 league or a 2v2 for lanes. where individual skill matters way more. obviously sum was wining with the rat boy but the gank cemented the lane. I wish ive seen how this lane goes without the gank. a 1v1 pro league or even a 1v1 pub match making would be really cool.
So the conclusion - basic stuff like denies, last hits, efficient trading and such are irrelevant in the face of ganking support, so your main objective is being impervious to ganks and setting up your opponent for a gank.
Inform your support when you can kill your opponent with little help from them. Do it beforehand. Not in the moment.
Yes! Definitely looking forward to more analysis video from you BSJ! Can't stress how much I have learned Dota from watching them. Especially this kind of specific content where we get to know what are the decision made by pros.
Yo BSJ, there sounds like there's a mic issue. There's stattic and clipping in your audio. Pls fix it!
I like the content. Your mic seems to be making some background sound and it makes the vid a bit harder to watch.
At 3:17 he indeed canceled the 1 bottle charge with sleights
it seems like at each tier of dota rank there are certain things that you can capitalize and punish. at the high levels coming down to literally single creep kills
The conclusion is doing 30 different fancy moves puts you a few denies ahead; a better support gives you over 1k gold lead and more mana/hp through fills than you could possibly save by playing better
Well, one situation is in your control, being a better player. the other is not so much, having a better player as a teammate. As a 2k MMR player, I almost never see a support rotating mid in my bracket, even after they die and they could have refilled bottles.
@@BenSilver10 but i see support rotating at rune times in cursader bracket
@@BenSilver10 Nobody's claiming otherwise, but making a video titled "how sumail crushed mid" and spending 10 mins talking about microplays while spending only 15 seconds on the actual reason he crushed mid (the bat gank) boy does that feel silly.
I believe, that at 19:30 he knew that he was already dead, that's why he took cs
Boboka won the lane 2 times xD
Quinn fucking destroyed sumaiil brat there, there is one or at least two heroes from sumail's team coming to mid all the time, GOAT QUINN.
off topic but Sumail now looks like a gigachad compared to Quinn who still looks like a teen girl.
Very nice Video rly enjoyed it and gets you deeper thoughts about how to win matchups and grow my own game would enjoy more of that for every role think sutch a breakdown can really make a different
That arrow dodge was cool... If lich wasnt there I think it would be different
6:07 "The big difference here is that sumail has 5 denies". The big difference there is bat securing the second rune for sumail :)). In my experience with qop vs ember, qop is stronger the first 3-4 levels, but then ember starts to take over the lane after. The fact that sumail had a couple extra denies at level 4 was expected, but the fact that bat came to secure the rune right as ember was about to hit that power swing really sealed the deal. Bat was the real mvp there.
Oh shut up
8:24 I didn't get that well , more creeps for who ? if you have more creeps you go or is it if they (enemy midlaner) have more creeps you go
There’s some weird static on your microphone audio
I've been hearing that Miracle has come back from his break and has been just as good as he was before. Wouldn't mind a break down of his game play. :)
Yeah, we need miracle. His invoker play vs sumail snapfire was so dope. Do it please 🙏🙏🙏
first game suma1l def got the edge cause of his team, i mean 5 denies is ok but really in 2-3 waves they can be even if boboka doesn't rotate, there's no gaurantee he keeps snowballing. Boboka first secured a kill on quinn then they secure the 6 minute rune and another kill for sumail, finally they secure yet another kill on quinn at 8 miunutes when he's already behind, so i really think its an exageration to say the difference in the lane is the 5 denies sumail has over quinn xD . Second game wasn't as drastic in terms of help but again hand boboka not came in quinn would probably start coming back in the lane and not die.
Great content per usual. But I think your compressor/noise cancelation could use some tweaking, it's a little noisy everytime you speak. compared to yesterdays video (how to support like an immortal) which was perfect.
He's at Dream League's panel, so this video is prolly made from hotel room. Usually the mic is good.
would be interesting to see this type of video about topson
Enjoy the content sir, but please do something about the audio quality - background static/interference is rough.
Love this content, would be great to see more of it.
I thought my speaker was broken lol.
Fantastic video. Would love more pos 2 content
bsj do some more, these are very informative and they do help us
This the most amazing things I have learnt ever.. never thought of it in such detailed manner ❤
I didn't know Dota was this deep.
Loved this BSJ! Ty buddy!
Just an out of topic question: Does Arcana progress go up when winning pro games?
Hi, can u make a tutorial for Micro hero plz
RIP mic quality ICANT
They kill the creeps mid fast to get to lvl 2 faster. Well that why I do it back then. Lvl 2 vs a lvl 1 that's a hell of an advantage.
Sumail is somewhat out of his prime but he still manage to dominate his lanes in most of the game.
Please do an analysis for Pos 4 and pos 5 games too.
Because he have king of pos 4 ganking at 4 minute mark?
sumail mid is scary!
More of this, please... It's really great
Can you do carry analysis like this as well?
Really good vid man, will watch if U make more 👍
3:00 or he is just waiting to see if ember takes root spell.
Good stuff. Would love more videos like this
very good video but i had to stop in the middle of it because your microphone/voice settings dude dont you hear this yourself?
Audio is a little scuffed my man!
Bsj finally making midlane content again. Thanks alot!
Audio quality in this video is pretty awful, what happened to your mic?
King > Quinn
To be honest, I think you're overselling the first game a lot. Yes, QOP build a slight lead for herself which is expected in my opinion. But what made the difference is the 4 rotations she got by min 7 compared to just 1 for Quinn (who even fed a kill).
I appreciate the talk about the mechanics, but neither midlaner played significally better than the other. Sumail just had a ton more ressources put into his lane.
I think Quin had those two sleight-of-fist securing creep because he thinks his sleight-of-fist is lv1 and its CD is not short.
This is not BSJ its SgtSizzles
just some feedback, the zing-ing sound feedback is lowering the quality of ur content, good idea to rectify it
"Difference in this lane came largely down to denies" - what? Are we watching a different replay? The difference in this lane largely came down to bat ganking ember and giving qop double rune? I don't think 5 denies did anything compared to that.
The King vs The Quinn...
Great content, super insightful
bring back the old intro, it’s a classic
aged well
audio quality man
Given Quinn is quiet Chad, getting that creep at 19:45 could have been his best play. He did not know if IO stayed mid or not. He took what seemed like a beneficial trade/fight until IO from the bot side came back. His options were then, to run straight back to the fountain losing 4 creeps that were there + the next wave, or get that one last hit, die, and come back with full resources for the next wave.
The audio is a little fucked?
sumail vs miracle next please
Watched NTS vs Sumail. Why sumail is the king of midlane?
Thank you BSJ, thank you so much!
Comment on the same games but the other roles from teammates and how they were performing
Waiting for miracle videos thanks
can you do a pos 4 analysis
King vs Queen* 😂
King of midlane got shitted by Miracle yesterday ! 😂
My 2k brain only sees boboka as the x factor😂
Twice
liked for the tongue at the end
Whats a king to a god? Should honestly do Mgod review
?? Mgod lost first game and his lane disgustingly. Like sumail just destroyed him in the lane. Second game sumail lost the game cos snap mid to late game compared a vs is no match. In lane it was pretty even with a slight cs edge on sumail. Sumail is definitely the better laner.
Mic issues
i just loike listening to this man talk
great content!
when pros miss last hit they do it "intentionally"
Pseudo-deny master race! It’s the final frontier of last hitting against good players. Now, nobody wins. But at least I’m getting 100% xp.
queen vs quinn
bro you are cohosting dreamleague and u upload a video?
yeah his a king until some chubby king slayer from SEA region defeat him in 1 vs 1 remember????
Good stuff!
Solid content
Video is borderline unwatchable with headphones because of the buzz in the audio.
make video with bubby
The level is so freaking high