All my games have been 40+ minutes on average since the update. Don't know if it's because people are playing cautiously or I'm just in a bracket where people can't end games
Great content as always BSJ, thanks dude! Lets talk 🌲 TREANT 🌲 The Facet "Sapling" that modified Leech Seed has made Treant feel EXCEPTIONALLY powerful. I loved the hero before, I'm OBSESSED now. Previously, we could only Leech Seed on enemies, meaning we could only really perform a significant heal when our opponents were fighting something. Now I can do a drive-by on the move heal by dropping that tree down next to my team, and I'm regularly healing 20-30k in my ranked pub games (Treant spammer here). It effectively increases the range on Leech Seed by a significant amount, and allows us to blindfire it into Fog of War where we KNOW they are, and then you can track the seedlings as they follow the heros, thus granting us info on exactly where they are AND where they are going for the duration of the seedlings chase. But wait, there's more! Leech Seed goes from a single target spell, to an AOE. At max level, with the bonus Leech Seed damage/heal, before resistance is calculated... Leech Seed translates to a 1100 life point differential between US and a single enemy hero. But... What if theres multiple heros, and Leech Seed is draining all of them, and healing our team? If we have an ally and theres two enemy heros (common laning dynamic), this translates to a massive life point differential at very early stages of the game, on a short cool down spell. I just need mana on Treant to stay alive in lane, I've cut down on Tangos dramatically, start with Windlace and even a Magic Stick and I just rush Ring of Basilius. And finally, Sapling makes Leech Seed into a much much stronger lane pushing tool because it drains all the creeps not just one - Leech Seed + Natures Grasp is sufficient to clear an entire wave, and heal our wave to full. I've won a lot of apparently unwinnable games by going full TreantRatDota, using Leech Seed + Grasp as a pushing tool to both heal my wave and clear the enemy wave. Kaya into Meteor Hammer is a very natural progression, as Kaya already feels exceptioanlly good on Treant. Oh and don't get me started on outplays and jukes with Leech Seed planting a TREE that blocks line of sight and pathing 😂 My current build as a P5 is usually the following: START - Windlace (250) - Magic Stick (200) - Obs + Sentry (50) - Tango (90) EARLY - Ring of Basi - Wand or Boots - Arcane Boots MID - Blink - get Shard from Tormentor at 20min - Kaya or Vlads Anywhoo, I think that Primeaval Power is undeniably strong and free, as Treant is deceptively vey aggressive in lane, BUT I think Sapling is on a whole different level and adds an enormous amount of value and utility and power to Treant that he didnt have before. While Primeaval Power falls off later (we don't do a ton of sustained punching later in the game, mainly just Blink + Guide roots) Sapling starts good and only gets better. My winrate with Treant in Ranked is over 70%. May you bark stay stiff and your wood hard. (Steps off Soapbox) 🌲 🌲 🌲
Honestly your starting build is bad. You shouldn't go for a windlace since it really isnt that great for the cost of 250 gold. Also why magic stick? Stick is an extremely situational item and should only be bought lvl 1 against heroes that are gonna spam spells. If you watch some support guides the recommended starting items are 6 tangos and 2 sentries.
@@m15t3rdud3 offlane build is a tricky one. It needs some Dota knowledge. But the point is: you're a tanky strength melee hero with now big and heavy punches, couple of slows, and good ult. So you need to get some early armor with wraith bands, then solve the problem of 280 starting ms with either phase boots or tranquil into kinda fast bearings. Then you need some form of mana sustain. Vlads for you and team? Good. Echo sabre with future harpoon to be extra punchy? Why not. Shard is good but constant invis can mess your autoattacks a bit. Then you're a pos 3 hero, you want utility. Look at enemy draft and your draft and try to patch obvious holes. Extra control against enemy carry? Eul, halberd, much later in the game hex. Need some save? Lotus orb. Desperate for initiation? Well, I think you can get yourself a blink. Your armor needs patching? Shiva or Cuirass should help. Maybe you're a madman with cuirass and need extra hard control? Basher into abyssal. Spell damage bothers you or team? Shroud or pipe then. Game is long and slow? Aghs will prepare the match for future. So your item build is very flexible and should be used to patch obvious holes and enhance momentary strengths. You can even build Radiance if your lane was easy and full of gold for you. Orchid and atos can be useful. And for talents - go damage ones. Buff your vine and seed with damage, on lane max vine and seed, LA will heal towers later. It's not a noob friendly pick I think, it requires some brain power and game sense.
The first game I played in the new patch I played bristle as a pos 4. If you start with nasal goo you can pretty much just run at people the whole game with warpath. I went orb of venom and then got arcanes and vessel, then just bought tanks aura items like vlads and pipe to buff up the team. Obviously you lack disable as a support but you still have the bristle effect of running people down and soaking up spells. You can still make shard/aghs too to scale damage if you need to.
The Legion Commander second facet also works in reverse: if you lose the duel it gives the enemy team that helped take you down bonus damage. So much risk for a hero who's ult gets countered pretty easy.
4:30 I'll have to test it in demo mode to see the exact requirements but I've definitely had 600ms outside of ulti in a couple of my centaur games and I only had one heart. +75% STR from shard stacks plus SnY can probably get you there with only one heart.
My experience with Earthshaker is that Slugger is more about farming, even as a support, it allows you to get blink at 13 min easily. I find the Tectonic is hard because it rarely has much effect on your game.
I find it weird that he says tectonic is free sh*t but slugger isnt. IMO slugger is way more free sh*t than what tectonic is. A core ES benefits so much of slugger during both laning stage and when farming neutrals.
I'd love it if we get to the point where a facet allows characters to be for 2 roles. Like some characters can go from Support to Carry. Or more subtle like nuker to initiator or something.
Hey the axe one is interesting. The facet that gives you extra armour when alone isn't going to help much if you can't get your enemy low enough to ult. However, the attack speed increase could be the difference between getting the kill vs not getting the kill and risking retaliation. Thoughts?
Both of ET's facets are BUSTED! I'm having a freaking blast right now! My only issue is early game purges since it removes the astral spirit buff and Phoenix before I have aghs.
BSJ Kinda forgot one thing about WK: Bone Guad reincarnation now summons an extra skeleton. So instead of 1/2/3 its 2/3/4 which is a major buff. On lvl 6 thats double the amount of skeletons which is huge. If you are playing against supports that in general are slow and squishy you absolutely melt them with those extra skeletons spawned from your ult. I feel like those extra skeletons are worth taking in to account when comparing the facets.
Hey BSJ, you should check out a post I made on the DOTA2 subreddit about Earth Spirit's Stepping Stones facet yesterday. I feel it's potentially borderline broken as it allows you to do AM level splitpushing and distance covering, with Urn + Kaya. With Kaya Sange you can Roll, Smash and Pull off CD meaning you can roll from lane to lane blasting creepwaves while being 10 seconds away from other lanes in case of a teamfight incoming or erupting. You get farmed super fast this way while having insane levels of map pressure, without even showing on the creepwave. On level 20 you instaclear the wave with only bouldersmash. You can still kick opponents back when rolling into them, you just need to move an inch back and then do it, it's completely reliable. Also you have infinite magnetize with godlike chasing potential, if afraid of dying just roll through the trees and keep magnetize up while Kicking and Pulling. With Octarine it gets ridiculous.
I also play ES a lot, well I gave it a try, I can see you have to let go of the idea of saving up ur stones and just use them often. But I do miss the situation where I can just roll up to someone, use a stone for that, then use another stone to silence. The stone you get after rolling seems not easy to use. I'll go back to the old style, more fun for me at least.
@@Arietje The whole idea is to rush aghanims, initiate with a roll in, ult, and remnant yourself/kick yourself out before staying max distance while infinitely reapplying your ult. If the enemy can't purge it (or you hit lvl 25) they either have to kill you, or get away before you refresh it - which you can do infinitely.
@@Wallcraft_Official Well maybe strategically not bad (not sure to be honest), but quite simply I don't like it, I feel limited. I want to steven seagal people around aside from group fights. If you want to go in a group and ult uninterupted, you could get bkb. And sometimes you can startle the main hero that will stop you the most by rolling onto him, ult & silence everyone. Also the infinite ult seems alright but I don't feel its that big of a deal, if you saved up a lot of stones you can get it going a long time already, they don't stack as far as I know so you should pause inbetween anyway. Usually the fight is over faster than I run out of stones for the ult. During such a fight a lot of movement and stuff is going on. But I guess there are different scenarios.
i disagree on treant. being able to plant a tree and heal a core is way better than 5dmg per level. you dont need a enemy hero/creep to heal, that's big.
Yeah sapling is pretty great. It's a reliable AoE heal for your allies anywhere. It's amazing for pushing since you damage enemy creeps and heal your creeps. You can also combo it with your Q to have an "on demand" tree for better placement. 5 damage per level is great. But the sheer utility sapling provides to treant is pretty great too
@@parkerlong2658 depending on your carrypick. if you have a late scaling carry, you need the heal in lane and your carry will snowball faster. if you have a mid orientated like jugger, you will help him like a bulldozer in mid, but if you fail, you simply gone.
yeah it has a lot of practical uses as well. Its really good for jungling or wave clearing. Also in lanning phase you can position it in a way that doesn't mess up creep equalibrium. And in team fights you can more easily drop it in a position that heals everyone especially when things spread out. It also counts as a tree so you can plop it down and use your Q for the bonus damage. All of this is way more useful than a little bit of extra damage in the early game. I've done probably 25 games with both facets and very rarely has that extra damage ever translated into a kill that you wouldn't have already got with the other facet. And once you leave lanning phase it loses a lot of it's value since in team fights you might get 1 or 2 auto attacks off on someone if you're lucky. Being able to keep your team alive or having a wave clearing tool to help with stalling just feels so much nicer
Its so very obvious that a lot of facets were made just so they are there, and many "innates" are the same abilities the heros always had but separated from the ability slots... valve never changes.
The 2nd facet of Spirit breaker isnt meme. When defending high ground you can literally hook people inside by ulting and the charging them, if you have force staff it's even more absurd.
Underlord with his portal minions has become my favorite 4. It's a better version of NP. TP right on an enemy, traps them with ur aghs, retrap them with your abil, minions come out and you can go right back to where u came after.
Sand king so popular pick now in divine below bracket. New E can instantly clear creep wave, 5 sec cd only. Max E then max W rush agha then ggez. Right facet for sure. Permanent W without having to worry walking out of W.
Went tide krill hunter and got giants ring one game, everyone, even enemy team, took a moment to pause and watch the sheer beefness as i popped bkb in the last teamfight at lvl 30
Learning curve on a mid Ogre should allow you to dominate the lane with ease. You can simply spam a 180 damage dot for 90 mana on lvl 2 and laugh at the enemy mid.
Lifestealer Unfeattered is kinda funny to me as it looks so similar to Rage. Players who are used to fight against LS are usually saving their disables while Rage is active, and will only throws them until rage is about to finish, so it kinda fcks with people muscle memory as they're so used to play around Rage. They might be reluctant to cast disables during Unfeattered, so it can technically becomes Rage 2.0 against some players. The only issue is that this facet is absolutely terrible against slows and spammable DoTs, and AoE area denial spells.
i wonder why treant gets an auto attack facet when his shard still disables his auto attacks constantly. imagine if riki or PA had their auto attacks disabled :D
Imo myxologist is way better on support alch in pubs. Throwing stuns and berserker potions is the only thing supp alch does in teamfight, so by picking that facet the hero instantly gets a lot more useful in fights. In addition feeding bottle to a random person you don't know and propably might never play together with again is a bad idea. You never know if your mid isn't some guy that just queued all queue for roles and got mid by accident. I'd save bottle buying only for pre-mades and maybe very high mmr games.
Flayer's hook Ive tested it. It deals 100 dmg more than normal hook, after the PATCH buff it deals 180more damge (250max)) with aether lens at max range. Totally not worth it
The should change Alch's facet to give Greed bonus gold on denies instead of the +250 gold to start. It would change how he is played and be a big benefit to people good at CS and denying
They need to change monkey’s facets i mean cmon no cd on tree dance while at 100% hp? Thats good only if u re support because most of the time u ll not be full hp as a core even support. They should change it to be like he s an actual ranged hero( i know he has better range than ta but ta can buy dragon lance for that and mk can increase his range by having the tier 1 item only so its pointless later on) The real monkey can enlarge his staff as much as he wants too so that would be a good change since the hero is pretty weak and he can barely stack his jingu without lockdown while other heroes get op facets( LC RIDICULOUS SHIELD )
Gleaming hammer for Dawn is a bait, not only does it not work without a point in your ult, aka laning stage its useless, but its numbers are horrid for sustain at the cost of dmg because calling the hammer back just deals more dmg. And the radius is awful. Bait facet, I wouldn't ever take it. If Its numbers were boosted and it worked without having ult, then maybe.
psa DO NOT pick bristleback until a new patch buffs him, he literally has a sub 40% winrate. they gutted this hero hard and just isnt his meta, 100% throw pick
I like the idea of facets but in reality there’s a “right” and “wrong” choice for 95% of heroes. Hopefully they get balanced so there’s actually a choice to make
Ogre Magi learning curve made me immortal rank support from ancient rank. Very aggressive snowball starting lvl 2.... dont mind your team pinging your skills not learned at lvl 1... your carry or offlane will get all the space they wanted all their lives😂😂😂
Currently, I do 😂. Faster games mean you will be free of toxic teammates faster. You will almost always get to late game, tier 5 neutrals, etc, which is always fun. And just the pace of the game is more fun in general. Playing solo queue, I don't see why you'd prefer regular x turbo. Just the possibility of being stuck with toxic people por 60+ minutes is terrifying haha
For farming crownfall tokens I prefer it since the games are quick and having less ideal team composition isn't as heavily punished because everyone can kind of play as a core with the extra gold you're getting
CK 2nd facet should be okay vs PA most of the time. Around 66% if the odds are even. Might even be worth considering for PA. Not really useful in any other matchup.
But you can delete a PA with the 1st facet though. Played a coupla games where I was deleting farmed PAs using an army of strong illusions and bloodthorn. Like BSJ said, strong illusions are just broken in general.
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can't lie, IMO this is the best change to DotA 2, feels so fresh and fast paced.
It leaves a lot of room for changes
Talents changed a shitload before they settled so it garenteed the next few updates will shake things up.
Some of them are really boring but i love them otherwise
now they need to move roshan out of the corner of the map, and maybe nerf fortify/buybacks a bit more, and the game will be perfect
All my games have been 40+ minutes on average since the update. Don't know if it's because people are playing cautiously or I'm just in a bracket where people can't end games
@@mephistoss238 maybe both xD
Bro, you're an angel for bookmarking all the different heroes on the time bar.
They keep adding things to DOTA. I stopped playing since they expanded the Map but still watch some pro games. Miss playing it a lot!!!
the game became much more fun since the map expansion
The facets brought so much variety. I enjoy the games a lot.
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Great content as always BSJ, thanks dude!
Lets talk 🌲 TREANT 🌲
The Facet "Sapling" that modified Leech Seed has made Treant feel EXCEPTIONALLY powerful. I loved the hero before, I'm OBSESSED now. Previously, we could only Leech Seed on enemies, meaning we could only really perform a significant heal when our opponents were fighting something. Now I can do a drive-by on the move heal by dropping that tree down next to my team, and I'm regularly healing 20-30k in my ranked pub games (Treant spammer here). It effectively increases the range on Leech Seed by a significant amount, and allows us to blindfire it into Fog of War where we KNOW they are, and then you can track the seedlings as they follow the heros, thus granting us info on exactly where they are AND where they are going for the duration of the seedlings chase. But wait, there's more!
Leech Seed goes from a single target spell, to an AOE. At max level, with the bonus Leech Seed damage/heal, before resistance is calculated... Leech Seed translates to a 1100 life point differential between US and a single enemy hero. But... What if theres multiple heros, and Leech Seed is draining all of them, and healing our team? If we have an ally and theres two enemy heros (common laning dynamic), this translates to a massive life point differential at very early stages of the game, on a short cool down spell. I just need mana on Treant to stay alive in lane, I've cut down on Tangos dramatically, start with Windlace and even a Magic Stick and I just rush Ring of Basilius.
And finally, Sapling makes Leech Seed into a much much stronger lane pushing tool because it drains all the creeps not just one - Leech Seed + Natures Grasp is sufficient to clear an entire wave, and heal our wave to full. I've won a lot of apparently unwinnable games by going full TreantRatDota, using Leech Seed + Grasp as a pushing tool to both heal my wave and clear the enemy wave. Kaya into Meteor Hammer is a very natural progression, as Kaya already feels exceptioanlly good on Treant.
Oh and don't get me started on outplays and jukes with Leech Seed planting a TREE that blocks line of sight and pathing 😂
My current build as a P5 is usually the following:
START
- Windlace (250)
- Magic Stick (200)
- Obs + Sentry (50)
- Tango (90)
EARLY
- Ring of Basi
- Wand or Boots
- Arcane Boots
MID
- Blink
- get Shard from Tormentor at 20min
- Kaya or Vlads
Anywhoo, I think that Primeaval Power is undeniably strong and free, as Treant is deceptively vey aggressive in lane, BUT I think Sapling is on a whole different level and adds an enormous amount of value and utility and power to Treant that he didnt have before. While Primeaval Power falls off later (we don't do a ton of sustained punching later in the game, mainly just Blink + Guide roots) Sapling starts good and only gets better.
My winrate with Treant in Ranked is over 70%.
May you bark stay stiff and your wood hard.
(Steps off Soapbox)
🌲 🌲 🌲
Thanks for the recommendation. Tree is my favorite hero too but I've been trying other stuff since the patch. Definitely gonna get back to him
As pos 3 treant who beats the shit out of my enemies I pick primeval power now. It's so much of damage and pos 3 treant is underrated as heck.
@@Chasodey What's the offlane build? Love me a good Dota build rabbit hole
Honestly your starting build is bad. You shouldn't go for a windlace since it really isnt that great for the cost of 250 gold. Also why magic stick? Stick is an extremely situational item and should only be bought lvl 1 against heroes that are gonna spam spells. If you watch some support guides the recommended starting items are 6 tangos and 2 sentries.
@@m15t3rdud3 offlane build is a tricky one. It needs some Dota knowledge. But the point is: you're a tanky strength melee hero with now big and heavy punches, couple of slows, and good ult. So you need to get some early armor with wraith bands, then solve the problem of 280 starting ms with either phase boots or tranquil into kinda fast bearings. Then you need some form of mana sustain. Vlads for you and team? Good. Echo sabre with future harpoon to be extra punchy? Why not. Shard is good but constant invis can mess your autoattacks a bit. Then you're a pos 3 hero, you want utility. Look at enemy draft and your draft and try to patch obvious holes. Extra control against enemy carry? Eul, halberd, much later in the game hex. Need some save? Lotus orb. Desperate for initiation? Well, I think you can get yourself a blink. Your armor needs patching? Shiva or Cuirass should help. Maybe you're a madman with cuirass and need extra hard control? Basher into abyssal. Spell damage bothers you or team? Shroud or pipe then. Game is long and slow? Aghs will prepare the match for future. So your item build is very flexible and should be used to patch obvious holes and enhance momentary strengths. You can even build Radiance if your lane was easy and full of gold for you. Orchid and atos can be useful. And for talents - go damage ones. Buff your vine and seed with damage, on lane max vine and seed, LA will heal towers later. It's not a noob friendly pick I think, it requires some brain power and game sense.
The first game I played in the new patch I played bristle as a pos 4. If you start with nasal goo you can pretty much just run at people the whole game with warpath. I went orb of venom and then got arcanes and vessel, then just bought tanks aura items like vlads and pipe to buff up the team. Obviously you lack disable as a support but you still have the bristle effect of running people down and soaking up spells. You can still make shard/aghs too to scale damage if you need to.
People are sleeping on ES slugger facet. It works with creep kills. On a core ES, it's an auto won lane.
The Legion Commander second facet also works in reverse: if you lose the duel it gives the enemy team that helped take you down bonus damage. So much risk for a hero who's ult gets countered pretty easy.
AXE callout is also more about lane creeps hittin u faster so u spin more - i highly recommend to check it out bc its better then it sounds
they need to do more stuff like this that breaths new life and mechanics into old heroes to keep the game feeling fresh
4:30 I'll have to test it in demo mode to see the exact requirements but I've definitely had 600ms outside of ulti in a couple of my centaur games and I only had one heart. +75% STR from shard stacks plus SnY can probably get you there with only one heart.
You missed Timbersaw, they made him a strength hero :)
My experience with Earthshaker is that Slugger is more about farming, even as a support, it allows you to get blink at 13 min easily. I find the Tectonic is hard because it rarely has much effect on your game.
I find it weird that he says tectonic is free sh*t but slugger isnt. IMO slugger is way more free sh*t than what tectonic is. A core ES benefits so much of slugger during both laning stage and when farming neutrals.
I'd love it if we get to the point where a facet allows characters to be for 2 roles. Like some characters can go from Support to Carry. Or more subtle like nuker to initiator or something.
Hey the axe one is interesting. The facet that gives you extra armour when alone isn't going to help much if you can't get your enemy low enough to ult.
However, the attack speed increase could be the difference between getting the kill vs not getting the kill and risking retaliation.
Thoughts?
for sure
100% agreed with BSJ, leg day is one of the best-named facets, ironic on a hero who slithers.
Awesome video as always keep delivering my boy, I watch all the videos, this new Dota patch its like hot coffee in the morning
I think bristleback situation is actually the oposite, atack speed instead of damage is a nerf to right click
Learning curve on ogre is great. You hit your ult at lvl 5 and it works well with midas. Getting all of Ogres talents 1 lvl sooner is great as well.
Both of ET's facets are BUSTED! I'm having a freaking blast right now! My only issue is early game purges since it removes the astral spirit buff and Phoenix before I have aghs.
Chaos Knight is an irony. Ironic that you have to choose the more reliable, less chaotic facet.
BSJ Kinda forgot one thing about WK: Bone Guad reincarnation now summons an extra skeleton. So instead of 1/2/3 its 2/3/4 which is a major buff. On lvl 6 thats double the amount of skeletons which is huge. If you are playing against supports that in general are slow and squishy you absolutely melt them with those extra skeletons spawned from your ult. I feel like those extra skeletons are worth taking in to account when comparing the facets.
Flayers hook is good because it gives you some bonus for doing extended hooks by blinking after hook
Hey BSJ, you should check out a post I made on the DOTA2 subreddit about Earth Spirit's Stepping Stones facet yesterday. I feel it's potentially borderline broken as it allows you to do AM level splitpushing and distance covering, with Urn + Kaya.
With Kaya Sange you can Roll, Smash and Pull off CD meaning you can roll from lane to lane blasting creepwaves while being 10 seconds away from other lanes in case of a teamfight incoming or erupting.
You get farmed super fast this way while having insane levels of map pressure, without even showing on the creepwave. On level 20 you instaclear the wave with only bouldersmash.
You can still kick opponents back when rolling into them, you just need to move an inch back and then do it, it's completely reliable. Also you have infinite magnetize with godlike chasing potential, if afraid of dying just roll through the trees and keep magnetize up while Kicking and Pulling. With Octarine it gets ridiculous.
I also play ES a lot, well I gave it a try, I can see you have to let go of the idea of saving up ur stones and just use them often. But I do miss the situation where I can just roll up to someone, use a stone for that, then use another stone to silence. The stone you get after rolling seems not easy to use. I'll go back to the old style, more fun for me at least.
@@Arietje The whole idea is to rush aghanims, initiate with a roll in, ult, and remnant yourself/kick yourself out before staying max distance while infinitely reapplying your ult. If the enemy can't purge it (or you hit lvl 25) they either have to kill you, or get away before you refresh it - which you can do infinitely.
@@Wallcraft_Official Well maybe strategically not bad (not sure to be honest), but quite simply I don't like it, I feel limited. I want to steven seagal people around aside from group fights. If you want to go in a group and ult uninterupted, you could get bkb. And sometimes you can startle the main hero that will stop you the most by rolling onto him, ult & silence everyone. Also the infinite ult seems alright but I don't feel its that big of a deal, if you saved up a lot of stones you can get it going a long time already, they don't stack as far as I know so you should pause inbetween anyway. Usually the fight is over faster than I run out of stones for the ult. During such a fight a lot of movement and stuff is going on. But I guess there are different scenarios.
@@Arietje What you can do is Boulder Smash the created Stone towards the target you want to silence after roll. It's not instant but it works.
Why isn't pos1 Pitlord in high MMR? It works well in heralds: farms like Sven or Tiny and can join any fight like Spectre.
Not really an Elder Titan player, but Deconstruction was really powerful in the game that I tried it out!
i disagree on treant. being able to plant a tree and heal a core is way better than 5dmg per level. you dont need a enemy hero/creep to heal, that's big.
I do think your undervaluing the DMG because it means treeant fucking nukes around level 6 to 10
However both are valuable
Yeah sapling is pretty great. It's a reliable AoE heal for your allies anywhere. It's amazing for pushing since you damage enemy creeps and heal your creeps. You can also combo it with your Q to have an "on demand" tree for better placement.
5 damage per level is great. But the sheer utility sapling provides to treant is pretty great too
@@parkerlong2658 depending on your carrypick. if you have a late scaling carry, you need the heal in lane and your carry will snowball faster. if you have a mid orientated like jugger, you will help him like a bulldozer in mid, but if you fail, you simply gone.
if you have agile lane partner / open fights instead of clumped ones, the tree facet lose value quickly since both teams rarely stand in the same spot
yeah it has a lot of practical uses as well. Its really good for jungling or wave clearing. Also in lanning phase you can position it in a way that doesn't mess up creep equalibrium. And in team fights you can more easily drop it in a position that heals everyone especially when things spread out. It also counts as a tree so you can plop it down and use your Q for the bonus damage. All of this is way more useful than a little bit of extra damage in the early game.
I've done probably 25 games with both facets and very rarely has that extra damage ever translated into a kill that you wouldn't have already got with the other facet. And once you leave lanning phase it loses a lot of it's value since in team fights you might get 1 or 2 auto attacks off on someone if you're lucky. Being able to keep your team alive or having a wave clearing tool to help with stalling just feels so much nicer
Its so very obvious that a lot of facets were made just so they are there, and many "innates" are the same abilities the heros always had but separated from the ability slots... valve never changes.
the underlord cleabe has potential tho, it can cleave across the screen almost. add crit to that suddenly you have a forcefield of damage
The 2nd facet of Spirit breaker isnt meme. When defending high ground you can literally hook people inside by ulting and the charging them, if you have force staff it's even more absurd.
Is it just me or is BSJ getting more handsome with every patch? I mean look at that coupe!
Underlord with his portal minions has become my favorite 4. It's a better version of NP. TP right on an enemy, traps them with ur aghs, retrap them with your abil, minions come out and you can go right back to where u came after.
Timbersaw feels neglected.
Sand king so popular pick now in divine below bracket. New E can instantly clear creep wave, 5 sec cd only. Max E then max W rush agha then ggez. Right facet for sure. Permanent W without having to worry walking out of W.
THANK YOU BSJ YOU ARE THE BEST.... WHEN WILL YOU PLAY RELIC ARENA WITH SUNSFAN AND ME?
Is Abaddon not a Strength hero anymore?
BSJ IS A SWIFTIE?? LOVE IT!!!
When you're Giga-Tidehunter you go Manta and cover the whole screen with mean green. It's almost a taunt.
Went tide krill hunter and got giants ring one game, everyone, even enemy team, took a moment to pause and watch the sheer beefness as i popped bkb in the last teamfight at lvl 30
Litterally dwarfs rosh
Learning curve on a mid Ogre should allow you to dominate the lane with ease. You can simply spam a 180 damage dot for 90 mana on lvl 2 and laugh at the enemy mid.
Spirit wolves lycan is insane 6500 hp 400dmg it's just insane and how flexible you can build because he's universal
Thanks for vid BSJ!
Love you back BSJ
You forgot timbersaw, he is a strength hero again
Nice vid! Also unless it was a bug dawn second facet only activate when you are lvl 6, and it could be so good if it was lvl 1 and she was support
Lifestealer Unfeattered is kinda funny to me as it looks so similar to Rage. Players who are used to fight against LS are usually saving their disables while Rage is active, and will only throws them until rage is about to finish, so it kinda fcks with people muscle memory as they're so used to play around Rage.
They might be reluctant to cast disables during Unfeattered, so it can technically becomes Rage 2.0 against some players.
The only issue is that this facet is absolutely terrible against slows and spammable DoTs, and AoE area denial spells.
this video actully slaps at double speed
I prefer the first Dawn facet, I was shocked how often I had my ult ready with it
i wonder why treant gets an auto attack facet when his shard still disables his auto attacks constantly. imagine if riki or PA had their auto attacks disabled :D
Eagerly awaiting to hear his thoughts on Abaddon, because the cooldown facet is so freaking broken. I literally can't press my buttons fast enough lol
best video idea for the game yet
Waiting for the facet series!
we need more facets videos BSJ..ASAP 😁
Hoodwinks second facet makes her laning stage wayyyy stronger
Do you have anything on batrider
Why skipped all the support hero??😢
Imo myxologist is way better on support alch in pubs. Throwing stuns and berserker potions is the only thing supp alch does in teamfight, so by picking that facet the hero instantly gets a lot more useful in fights. In addition feeding bottle to a random person you don't know and propably might never play together with again is a bad idea. You never know if your mid isn't some guy that just queued all queue for roles and got mid by accident. I'd save bottle buying only for pre-mades and maybe very high mmr games.
“Karma is a cat!” I looove it!
BSJ is a swiftie, respect
Flayer's hook Ive tested it. It deals 100 dmg more than normal hook, after the PATCH buff it deals 180more damge (250max)) with aether lens at max range. Totally not worth it
they should let it deal damage as a percentage of the hooked max hp
The should change Alch's facet to give Greed bonus gold on denies instead of the +250 gold to start. It would change how he is played and be a big benefit to people good at CS and denying
I thought that IO was also a strength hero
IO facets are names pf team fortress 2 medic mediguns. It's a reference to how valve is spitting in the face of the TF2 community.
Where's Timbersaw? isnt he a strength hero now
0:49 A nice archive, until half the facets get major changes in the next few patches 😂
This is the content we want
They need to change monkey’s facets i mean cmon no cd on tree dance while at 100% hp? Thats good only if u re support because most of the time u ll not be full hp as a core even support. They should change it to be like he s an actual ranged hero( i know he has better range than ta but ta can buy dragon lance for that and mk can increase his range by having the tier 1 item only so its pointless later on) The real monkey can enlarge his staff as much as he wants too so that would be a good change since the hero is pretty weak and he can barely stack his jingu without lockdown while other heroes get op facets( LC RIDICULOUS SHIELD )
Gleaming hammer for Dawn is a bait, not only does it not work without a point in your ult, aka laning stage its useless, but its numbers are horrid for sustain at the cost of dmg because calling the hammer back just deals more dmg. And the radius is awful. Bait facet, I wouldn't ever take it. If Its numbers were boosted and it worked without having ult, then maybe.
I tried to listen but I was entranced by the wave of the hair
It's good for now but maybe consider changing the title to include the attributes when you finish all of them :)
awesome as always. Thanks bro
Thank you for this!
psa DO NOT pick bristleback until a new patch buffs him, he literally has a sub 40% winrate. they gutted this hero hard and just isnt his meta, 100% throw pick
I like the idea of facets but in reality there’s a “right” and “wrong” choice for 95% of heroes. Hopefully they get balanced so there’s actually a choice to make
BB Snot Rocket is disgusting if you have no easy way to dispel or have slow resistance + they have two ranged cores.
All strength heroes he said.
Timbersaw: am i a joke to you?
And Before you call me herald, dear commenters, read the patch.
When do you select facets?
Pick screen
Ogre Magi learning curve made me immortal rank support from ancient rank. Very aggressive snowball starting lvl 2.... dont mind your team pinging your skills not learned at lvl 1... your carry or offlane will get all the space they wanted all their lives😂😂😂
Kotl with relocate becomes rofl total map cleaner
Thought my dude was doing them alphabetically. Ok dude keep it up!
pick the most colorful one
Ah yes starting with the best stat!
Nice Video!
Is it just me or is BSJ looking more and more handsome?
BSJ picked the BicepSJ facet
Earth Shaker stugger... Kunka???
I expected to see strength hero BSJ in this video
what happened to BSJ's hair
THX BSJ
Day 1 of patch I pick slardar and Im like "Ahh shit dazzle as pos5" - Oh nice, unslowable.
Good luck refreshing that poison lmao.
Love you man ❤
Poor timbersaw got left out :(
Who does prefer Turbo mode?
Currently, I do 😂. Faster games mean you will be free of toxic teammates faster. You will almost always get to late game, tier 5 neutrals, etc, which is always fun. And just the pace of the game is more fun in general. Playing solo queue, I don't see why you'd prefer regular x turbo. Just the possibility of being stuck with toxic people por 60+ minutes is terrifying haha
For farming crownfall tokens I prefer it since the games are quick and having less ideal team composition isn't as heavily punished because everyone can kind of play as a core with the extra gold you're getting
Thank you for the vid promocode!
I don't care what you say, Earthshaker Slugger is far too much fun to pass..
Thank you
"We love free shit" - BSJ
Witch doctor???
yes im doing the seed money giving the mid free bottle and its always mid diff , unless your mid is brainless
CK 2nd facet should be okay vs PA most of the time. Around 66% if the odds are even. Might even be worth considering for PA. Not really useful in any other matchup.
But you can delete a PA with the 1st facet though. Played a coupla games where I was deleting farmed PAs using an army of strong illusions and bloodthorn.
Like BSJ said, strong illusions are just broken in general.