I store quite a bit of frozen food. The chest freezer I bought new (what a concept!) has a bunch of pizzas and about 90 pounds of bagged ice in it right now. It's as full as it can be (7 cubic feet). It never hurts to keep extra food around, especially nonperishable stuff.
Nice find! These freezers were a staple of my childhood - just about every home and business had at least one. The thing with the neon lamps is interesting. My guess is the minuscule amount of high frequency noise, propelled either through the power lines or through the air, is enough to create the needed extra ionization to light the lamp.
Good find! A bit of contact paper will hide that rusty top ;) As for the neon lamp thing, it's not electrical noise. Try shining a flashlight on the lamp in the dark and it will light up. Photons from any outside source add just enough energy to kick the lamp into conduction. Oddly enough, the light generated by the neon lamp isn't enough to keep it going once the outside source is removed.
I noticed a similar rather irritating neon issue many years back while staying in a hotel in Colorado. When I switched the lights off, the room would randomly flicker an ambler glow, which got annoying as I was trying to sleep. Yet, when I switched the lights on and had a look around, I couldn't find the source of anything flickering. While looking around standing up and turning on/off my flashlight, I quickly found the culprit - A neon lamp on the wall-attached hair dryer. With the flashlight lit, the neon lamp lit continuously. When I turned off the flashlight, it random made a bright amber flash. I've never seen a neon lamp do that here in Ireland, probably due to the higher 230v mains voltage here.
If one can deal with rust caused by super-thin modern finishes, it's possible to acquire perfectly decent (and not terribly old) appliances for cheap or free. We had a similar freezer and neatly glued a piece of FRP on the top...problem solved. Even caulked the edges all pretty-like lol.
I care little for the "Curb Side Find" of a Freezer, it's more interesting to me how you make it sound so enchanting. As always great job! On the other hand my wife may want one of these someday.
It is truly the thrill of the hunt, for those of us not interested in killing an animal and preparing it appropriately. I'd also make the *bold* statement that an old freezer and a video about such is better than 95% of what's on TV.
Indeed the 'thrill of the hunt' and the joy of the catch, when you realize you just picked up a microwave that costs 200 UK pounds rather than 50.... and all that's wrong is that the control fuse has blown :D
great find Bill we used to have one the same hear in Australia we got rid of it years ago but was great for more than 20 yrs was still going when we traded it for a smaller fridge but you know was always good frozen stuff was great and if the power went of long time was still good and frozen inside still
Seems repairclinic has a new gasket for the freezer for just under $88 and a new door key for around $5. so, in the future, assuming you feel the necessity to spend money on it, the option is there. at that point of time of replacement you could then un-ding the handle, too. but, sweet find! I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit jealous.
Oh, and Almond will never go out of fashion, my Hotpoint WM53A washing machine is an Almond & Brown colour which oddly matches the kitchen nicely... :P
Can you do a video on sandblasting and repainting the Kenmore freezer? I would love to see a before/after restoration video. Speaking of restoration, I still don't get as to why some people still throw away perfectly good working old appliances when it could have been refurbished.
I don't have a sandblaster, so I won't be doing that. If anything, I'll clean up as much of the rust as I can. Then I'll get some "paint over rust" stuff, lay that down as a first coat and follow it up with appliance enamel.
Sealed systems are fine if not STORED on their side, and yes, let them sit. I have seen a fridge blow after being tilted,. but that's because someone plugged it in before it was settled. It went off quite spectacularly. What happened was the thermal cutout failed to work right, so the jammed or plugged compressor got so hot... it burned out its wiring and shorted to ground.
William, I too cannot resist a good curbside bargain. In fact, I have scars to prove how determined I am to retrieve deeply embedded treasures from those big box store dumpsters.
Looks like once in a while you can still find good stuff in the curve yet. Outside little on the rough side but the most important the inside is clean and works.
I agree with you about putting fridges and freezers on their side, done it many times as you have and never had a problem. The most thorough way to clean fridges etc. after scrubbing out the crud a solution of Hydrogen Peroxide kills off the remaining organics, bleach doesn't work as there is such a weak solution of Sodium Hypochlorite that you are in effect "feeding "the organic stuff rather than killing it off. As for freezer smells..... I might be able to beat you on the unpleasant smell competition, Years ago I did a lot of Urbex (Before it was called that) and came across an abandoned warehouse, found an open window, slipped in and opened an inner door into the main storage area to be hit by a wall of unbelievable stank, like death. The place was full of disused commercial production butchery machinery and slaughterhouse accoutrements, Not nice at all, amazing mould over everything as well. Cheers Bill. J.
You can go to sears repair center or order a key if need be and also get a new seal for the lid and if it has them the pins to hold the gasket in place with that you have a new fully functional freezer. We have one in the garage I knew it would be used for a work bench from time to time so I cut a piece of plywood to fit the top and siliconed the plywood to the top, worked great and the wife had no complaints as long as I cleaned off my stuff before she wanted to open the freezer.
I don't have this freezer any longer. I took it to my HVAC/R classes as a demonstration of another self contained refrigeration system, since it had a very nice illustration of the system layout on the back panel. They don't have a lot of that equipment around. I offered it to the program, but they didn't want it. Ultimately, I donated it to the Salvation Army. It showed up on their sales floor and was gone in about a week.
Let me know what you come up with, though there will certainly be duplicates. Around here, those were very popular, probably because they were cheap. Despite this, they've held up well. I've never seen one with a bad picture. With there being some things that a CRT does better, I've kept them around.
In my video of my Classic's computer bench, I have currently 6 Retro Rig's wired up to one Gorgeous 20" Dell Trinitron! I can't tell you what I admire most. The 6 Rig setup, or staring into that Monster of a CRT. One of those computers is from the video you shot telling us of that special deal. I bought 3. :)
Im very supprised that the compressor/cooling side actually works :-) But that compressor sounds very happy to me :-D. As we didnt see your face, it must be black&blue where mum slapped you for bringing more potential junk home he he :-D.
At first I was thinking "what's he thinking taking that garbage?" But after I seen inside I understand why you did. It looks like the seal is coming off a bit on the back of the lid, other than that it's pretty good!
Ye olde fluorescent lamp ballasts used to actually have Ne2 indicators in them used to start the lamps. This is what often caused the ticking sound while they started up.
The indicator light is neon and as they age they lose some of their ability to light. The overhead lights provide just enough additional energy for the neon to fire. Try lighting the indicator with a bright flashlight.
notyoung exactly, I've got several neon light switches in my house that do this, ANY light source shining on them is enough to get them to light up again, flashlight, cell phone screen, sunlight from window, etc
Probably a lot said this already but yeah, as neon lamps get older, they can be affected by a few things. Usually light, temperature, or humidity, but sometimes the flickering isn't affected by any outside stimuli, it's weird. I've never seen electrical line noise be a factor though. Nice find, and I hope the rust cleans up semi-easily.
It's my understanding that the neon lamps fail not only from contamination caused by depletion of electrode material, but also potentially from gas leakage due to imperfect sealing. What surprises me is that light can be a sufficient stimulus to make a tired neon lamp work again, at least for a while. Others have indicated such to be the case, and offered the suggestion to try pointing a flashlight at the neon indicator lamp to get it going again. Still, I don't think it's completely ridiculous to think that electrical line noise and distortion of the waveform (or harmonics) could, with some help, get a reticent neon lamp to work again. I say this because I've noticed neon lamps that came into working order (or closer to) when another light was on, despite that light not being "seen" by the neon lamp. The same with highly inductive loads like motors or even switchmode power supplies.
uxwbill Oh, noise definitely could be. I'm no electrician; these are just based on my observations from the power strips I own and have seen. Plus my home probably doesn't have a whole lot of line noise. I'll leave that up to someone more knowledgeable than me to confirm.
the 198 prefix to the model number does indicate that this is a Whirlpool built unit. If you have the serial number along with the full model number you can find out its date of manufacture here: www.appliance411.com/service/date-code.php
tallboyyyy at 9:33 he shows off the Model and serial number plate; I plugged the numbers into that website you mentioned, and it spat out a manufacturing date of September of 1982.
I gather that it was produced in 1981. Sears always had the first 2 digits in the Model after the "3-set" (116, 198, 110) stand for the year, be it letters or numbers.
I was thinking it was made in 1983 or earlier, due to the older design of the Sears logo. Looks like someone already pinpointed it by the serial number being made in September 1982, which ironically is when my parents got married.
Given that the condenser is warm, there may be a restriction in the system preventing the proper flow of refrigerant. Unfortunately, these generally are not worth repairing, especially a model as old as this one. Anything involving service to the coils is almost impossible, given the blown in foam insulation and extensive disassembly that would be required.
Well my Model # 11098 is of similar vintage and has one of the same problems as yours - the gasket has come loose from the back side of the lid! How should I go about repairing that damage?
The only real fix is replacing the gasket. You might be able to glue or clip/clamp it in place somehow, though such fixes are only likely to be temporary.
Not at all. Around these parts, it's basically considered that someone has surrendered their rights to a piece of property when they discard it. Sometimes I'll ask as a courtesy if anyone happens to be around, but I've never been hassled even when I picked stuff up right in front of the people who tossed it. To the best of my recollection, I've never been told that I couldn't take something from someone's trash. Nobody was around when I picked up this freezer, and the house nearby was completely empty. Someone had left some lights on.
+uxwbill that's something I never understood, why do some people get mad for taking their garbage? It's obvious they didn't want it, what's the problem with letting someone else take it away for free? I understand security with taxes and other forms, but those are supposed to be shredded anyways.
OK, it was reminding me of a story I read a few years back (on Consumerist, I think); about a guy in NY who got fined somewhere around $2,000 for grabbing an AC unit off the curb (despite having permission from the person who put it there). There was apparently "garbage police" watching it & he ran afoul of some law because he transported it in a motorized vehicle (!!!). Ultimately, he fought the city in court & they threw out the case.
I've heard of such laws existing in larger cities and more populated areas. Which is just another reason why I'd never want to live in such a place (beyond its never being truly quiet or dark at night). Clearly some lawmaker didn't have enough to do, or had a vested interest in making sure nobody could recycle anything in the best way possible (by reusing it). For years my father would pick up appliances and electronics while doing his day job (his employer didn't care). Later, we'd repair them, usually right there on the driveway and ultimately sell them. Some didn't even need any repair. Perhaps the best of all was the fully loaded avocado green Maytag washing machine that my mother swore up and down he'd never sell because nobody wanted an appliance in that color any more. No sooner than we'd repaired it and were doing a load of laundry on the driveway, two guys pulled up in a van and bought the machine right in front of my mother's disbelieving eyes. I tell this story not only because I find it highly amusing, but to underscore the fact that for years, my father and I had our pick of everything that people threw away. And in the higher income neighborhoods, that was nice some stuff. It'd sit and nobody would touch it until the trash collection came along. When the economy fell apart in 2009 or so, suddenly the metal scrappers emerged in full force, driving old pickup trucks up and down the street in the early hours of the morning to get metal from whatever they could find in people's trash.
i have a imperial true test freezer from probably the 80's and it still works but the light quit working before i got it and it didnt burn out either. idk what went wrong
are u sure that the switch for the lights isnt connected to the freezer. also if you look at the amber light are straight on you might see it lit. It worked for me.
I always love watching these videos, I have a similar situation where if I bring home roadside treasures to tinker with, I'll likely be spoken to vehemently about it. I can't explain it, but there is something both fascinating and oddly heartwarming about seeing supposedly "junk" appliances come to life. thanks for showing the freezer uxwbill, and I'm really curious about the neon situation there because I have an old computer power switch array. It's one that used to sit under a monitor and has individual power switches for Master, Computer, Monitor, Print, and Aux 1 and 2. Master, Computer, monitor, and aux 2 light up fine, but printer and aux 1 are faint, and I'm starting to wonder if either they aren't fully dead yet, or if the lights in the switches are being kept alive by the good ones on either side of them. Gave me something to look into.
Sometimes I can't win no matter what I do. :-) Back in the winter I spotted a Whirlpool washing machine set out on the curb. I was really going to pick it up and repair it -- something I hadn't done in almost two decades! The drain pumps on these things are often plastic bodied and with it being below freezing, I felt that the odds of its having cracked were just too great. When I told my father of this, his exact words were "you really let your skimmer leak". In other words, I *should* have picked it up! He and I used to do a pretty good business of picking up washers, dryers and even the odd stove to repair and sell. Cheezy though it may sound, there's something really satisfying to me about taking something that's either hopelessly dead or left for dead and seeing it come back to life. I'm not sure this is either of justifiable or logical, but one upon a time these things were brand new and sitting in a showroom for sale somewhere. People *cared* about them at some point. They *mattered* to someone. And when everyone else has forgotten, I'm the guy who comes along to remember and care once again. There are times I wish these things could tell stories. (I'm sure that sounds really stupid to some people.) Time gets even with all neon lamps, either through the gas charge leaking down/becoming contaminated or electrode wear within the lamp. Some are more susceptible than others. Only 46 years after it was made did the "surface units" NE2 lamp in my 1971 Hotpoint stove finally become weak, and I suspect it may have simply slipped away from the plastic lens through which it would shine. All the others (for the ovens) still work as new. Like LEDs, neon lamps need a series limiting resistor and I suspect some manufacturers just drove them too hard, leading to an accelerated demise.
It's sad that the R12 compressor on that thing is so quiet compared to the R600a-gassed Husky branded fridge I have in my bedroom (for cold drinks and occasional sandwiches!), as it sounds like it's got a diesel generator in there at times, but, that's what happens when you let china build things, they just don't get it right... :\ I know it's not the R600a gas at fault (as much as I distrust Isobutane for it's propensity to leak, catch fire and burn down London tower blocks) as the Bosch fridge I salvaged last year (& gave to the uncle as a swap for the Husky) is nice and quiet...
Average Joe no denying that, I was referring to the claimed initial cause of the fire, what happened afterwards was an avoidable tragedy that was caused by penny-pinching turds...
The compressor in my mother's Whirlpool refrigerator is much the same way. Sometimes it starts and runs alarmingly loudly for a few seconds. Other times it's fine. Near as I can tell, only small refrigerators and freezers seem to be going the route of using isobutane for refrigerant. Dehumidifiers and room air conditioners now seem to be using R-410a exclusively. Perhaps the combination of isobutane and a fan moving air around the room is a very bad mix should something go wrong? I walked past a row of small refrigerators for sale in a Wal-Mart store and I could *smell* the isobutane.
Generally, no. The condenser coil is usually built into the case assembly and you can't get at it. There has likely been a refrigerant leak, a restriction in the system or the compressor is no longer pumping/running. When these fail, it's usually a throwaway situation. *Caution* : a newer model freezer or refrigerator may be using a *flammable* refrigerant, such as butane or propane. Although there is very little refrigerant in the system, it could still start a fire if it gets out and is ignited somehow.
I'm thinking this is an early 1980s model...the Sears logo is that used from the 60s into the early 1980s before they changed again was on a sticker under the lid.
Dear uxwbill, very interesting video I do however have a air conditioning question for you. I recently purchased a new 12,000 BTU window air conditioner and it does not have A drain for the water to escape The condenser fan does hit the water throwing it everywhere do I need to be concerned with this? Thank you very much!
No, because that is how most window air conditioners are designed. Slinging the water around helps to cool the compressor, fan motor and most importantly, the condenser (outside) coil. Some units have an "overflow" hole and some don't.
Have you noticed when sgarting up one yhese fins that they get very hot to the touch until the reach freezing inside i got a hajd me down that was fully dethawed and sat for wile plugeed it in compresors on i hear ut ticking inside getting frosty but the outside is very hot to touch i used a thermometer on it and it was around 98 degrees
Uxwbill: thank you for your video! I have an old chest freezer myself. It was a used model and very old when I bought it from a guy who was selling it out of his garage. It has served me very, very well for The better part of 10 years.This winter, I got Covid, and still have it, so I was not able to defrost my freezer. There is lots of frost, and the food has been frozen. Until two days ago. I noticed that the frozen foods were not rockhard. Today, some of the meat is actually thawed out completely. I am astonished that there could be so much frost in a freezer, yet the food inside thawed out. The freezer is still making all the right sounds. There doesn’t appear to be any obstruction keeping it from closing. Any suggestions? I’d sure appreciate any ideas that you have. There’s just no way I can go out and shop for another, And I really don’t want to lose the winter food supply in it.
Excessive frost can start to act as a form of insulation, keeping the cold from getting to where it needs to be. It can also make the thermostat operate incorrectly. Stuff that's thawed out completely needs to be prepared immediately or discarded. It's not worth taking the chance. If it's still partially frozen or at least cold (below 35F or so), refreezing is probably OK, but the taste and texture may not be as good. It's time to make defrosting the freezer a priority. You'll need some coolers or someone who's got extra freezer space and would let you borrow it for a while. Boiling water in a pan can be used with great care to speed the defrosting process. Just be careful not to damage anything by melting it. Never use a sharp object to remove frost, or it's new freezer time at that point. Sealed refrigeration systems are very reliable. Leaks are rare but they can happen. Controls can also fail. Repairs to the actual sealed parts of the refrigeration are almost always not worth it, and may not be possible depending upon where the problem is located.
uxwbill: Tysvk 4 this; I have already moved all of the meat products that were still at least partially frozen, and heartbreakingly threw out one roast. I hope to finish up the process tomorrow. Tomorrow will be a day of making huge quantities of jam and preserves. :-)
i left my freezer unplugged two weeks with meat inside and it was a stinking mess and full of water. i decided to replugged it let freeze and clean it up. lesson learned😥
Neon lights start to flicker due to aging but Black lights/ultra violet lights makes a flickering neon light work like new as you put the ultra violet light super close to the neon light. I posted a video of the effects that a ultra violet light has with a flickering neon light a few days ago. th-cam.com/video/WS_Fl7D68Do/w-d-xo.html
Nope. Around here you pay for private trash collection service or you go without. I've found that some people actually do go without, when I've come around to clean out their property.
It's common for small and rural towns to not have garbage collection, I'm from Muncie, Indiana where they have a very nice garbage collection service where you get big Toters you wheel out to the street but I bought a house in Hartford City which is the next county north and while they do have city garbage collection they have a bag limit and you have to go to the city hall and pay and they give you a sticker for each additional bag or for disposal of a large item like a TV and anything you put out has to be able to be lifter by hand since they still do manual collection.
from appliance411 when I entered the model and serial "According to the serial number this product may have been manufactured in St. Paul, MN, September of 1972 or 1982 or 2012."
Nah, judging from the look of the Kenmore logo and the information cards on the inside-top of the chest, it's not from 2012. It's hard to place on the stylistic decisions made concerning appliances because it looks to have a few design choices common in the 70s and 80s, but overall I peg it as an 80's freezer. It just has that kind of look about it you know?
I know that must be the truth (Benz related) I owned an 82' 300 E, and currently own a 92' 400 E... They are the TARDIS of the real world. "Bigger on the inside". Anyway let's learn about freezer door seals, thanks.😁
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what a find. These freezes are good for grocery shopping overflow.
I store quite a bit of frozen food. The chest freezer I bought new (what a concept!) has a bunch of pizzas and about 90 pounds of bagged ice in it right now. It's as full as it can be (7 cubic feet).
It never hurts to keep extra food around, especially nonperishable stuff.
Nice find! These freezers were a staple of my childhood - just about every home and business had at least one.
The thing with the neon lamps is interesting. My guess is the minuscule amount of high frequency noise, propelled either through the power lines or through the air, is enough to create the needed extra ionization to light the lamp.
Good find! A bit of contact paper will hide that rusty top ;)
As for the neon lamp thing, it's not electrical noise. Try shining a flashlight on the lamp in the dark and it will light up. Photons from any outside source add just enough energy to kick the lamp into conduction. Oddly enough, the light generated by the neon lamp isn't enough to keep it going once the outside source is removed.
I noticed a similar rather irritating neon issue many years back while staying in a hotel in Colorado. When I switched the lights off, the room would randomly flicker an ambler glow, which got annoying as I was trying to sleep. Yet, when I switched the lights on and had a look around, I couldn't find the source of anything flickering. While looking around standing up and turning on/off my flashlight, I quickly found the culprit - A neon lamp on the wall-attached hair dryer. With the flashlight lit, the neon lamp lit continuously. When I turned off the flashlight, it random made a bright amber flash. I've never seen a neon lamp do that here in Ireland, probably due to the higher 230v mains voltage here.
If one can deal with rust caused by super-thin modern finishes, it's possible to acquire perfectly decent (and not terribly old) appliances for cheap or free. We had a similar freezer and neatly glued a piece of FRP on the top...problem solved. Even caulked the edges all pretty-like lol.
I care little for the "Curb Side Find" of a Freezer, it's more interesting to me how you make it sound so enchanting. As always great job! On the other hand my wife may want one of these someday.
It is truly the thrill of the hunt, for those of us not interested in killing an animal and preparing it appropriately.
I'd also make the *bold* statement that an old freezer and a video about such is better than 95% of what's on TV.
And that's why I am watching!
Indeed the 'thrill of the hunt' and the joy of the catch, when you realize you just picked up a microwave that costs 200 UK pounds rather than 50.... and all that's wrong is that the control fuse has blown :D
great find Bill we used to have one the same hear in Australia we got rid of it years ago but was great for more than 20 yrs was still going when we traded it for a smaller fridge but you know was always good frozen stuff was great and if the power went of long time was still good and frozen inside still
Very nice find.! Great 👍🏻 video.!
A very thorough and enjoyable video! You have a great, natural narrating style!
Seems repairclinic has a new gasket for the freezer for just under $88 and a new door key for around $5. so, in the future, assuming you feel the necessity to spend money on it, the option is there. at that point of time of replacement you could then un-ding the handle, too. but, sweet find! I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit jealous.
$90 for a piece of rubber gasket????????
What the heck
Oh, and Almond will never go out of fashion, my Hotpoint WM53A washing machine is an Almond & Brown colour which oddly matches the kitchen nicely... :P
Can you do a video on sandblasting and repainting the Kenmore freezer? I would love to see a before/after restoration video. Speaking of restoration, I still don't get as to why some people still throw away perfectly good working old appliances when it could have been refurbished.
I don't have a sandblaster, so I won't be doing that. If anything, I'll clean up as much of the rust as I can. Then I'll get some "paint over rust" stuff, lay that down as a first coat and follow it up with appliance enamel.
hmmm, 12x12 self stick floor tiles might work ok
Sealed systems are fine if not STORED on their side, and yes, let them sit. I have seen a fridge blow after being tilted,. but that's because someone plugged it in before it was settled. It went off quite spectacularly. What happened was the thermal cutout failed to work right, so the jammed or plugged compressor got so hot... it burned out its wiring and shorted to ground.
William, I too cannot resist a good curbside bargain. In fact, I have scars to prove how determined I am to retrieve deeply embedded treasures from those big box store dumpsters.
Looks like once in a while you can still find good stuff in the curve yet. Outside little on the rough side but the most important the inside is clean and works.
I agree with you about putting fridges and freezers on their side, done it many times as you have and never had a problem.
The most thorough way to clean fridges etc. after scrubbing out the crud a solution of Hydrogen Peroxide kills off the remaining organics, bleach doesn't work as there is such a weak solution of Sodium Hypochlorite that you are in effect "feeding "the organic stuff rather than killing it off.
As for freezer smells.....
I might be able to beat you on the unpleasant smell competition,
Years ago I did a lot of Urbex (Before it was called that) and came across an abandoned warehouse, found an open window, slipped in and opened an inner door into the main storage area to be hit by a wall of unbelievable stank, like death.
The place was full of disused commercial production butchery machinery and slaughterhouse accoutrements,
Not nice at all, amazing mould over everything as well.
Cheers Bill.
J.
Not sure what your other stuff is like as of yet, but man I really love your jib lol happy to learn more from you!
You can go to sears repair center or order a key if need be and also get a new seal for the lid and if it has them the pins to hold the gasket in place with that you have a new fully functional freezer. We have one in the garage I knew it would be used for a work bench from time to time so I cut a piece of plywood to fit the top and siliconed the plywood to the top, worked great and the wife had no complaints as long as I cleaned off my stuff before she wanted to open the freezer.
I don't have this freezer any longer. I took it to my HVAC/R classes as a demonstration of another self contained refrigeration system, since it had a very nice illustration of the system layout on the back panel. They don't have a lot of that equipment around. I offered it to the program, but they didn't want it. Ultimately, I donated it to the Salvation Army. It showed up on their sales floor and was gone in about a week.
I have this very same Kenmore model 12098 freezer. It still works but does accumulate frost on the inside.
I think someone should go through all of Bill's videos and count how many of those Dell CRT monitors we've seen
Let me know what you come up with, though there will certainly be duplicates. Around here, those were very popular, probably because they were cheap. Despite this, they've held up well. I've never seen one with a bad picture. With there being some things that a CRT does better, I've kept them around.
In my video of my Classic's computer bench, I have currently 6 Retro Rig's wired up to one Gorgeous 20" Dell Trinitron! I can't tell you what I admire most. The 6 Rig setup, or staring into that Monster of a CRT. One of those computers is from the video you shot telling us of that special deal. I bought 3. :)
Im very supprised that the compressor/cooling side actually works :-)
But that compressor sounds very happy to me :-D.
As we didnt see your face, it must be black&blue where mum slapped you for bringing more potential junk home he he :-D.
At first I was thinking "what's he thinking taking that garbage?" But after I seen inside I understand why you did. It looks like the seal is coming off a bit on the back of the lid, other than that it's pretty good!
Ye olde fluorescent lamp ballasts used to actually have Ne2 indicators in them used to start the lamps. This is what often caused the ticking sound while they started up.
The indicator light is neon and as they age they lose some of their ability to light. The overhead lights provide just enough additional energy for the neon to fire. Try lighting the indicator with a bright flashlight.
notyoung exactly, I've got several neon light switches in my house that do this, ANY light source shining on them is enough to get them to light up again, flashlight, cell phone screen, sunlight from window, etc
Probably a lot said this already but yeah, as neon lamps get older, they can be affected by a few things. Usually light, temperature, or humidity, but sometimes the flickering isn't affected by any outside stimuli, it's weird. I've never seen electrical line noise be a factor though.
Nice find, and I hope the rust cleans up semi-easily.
It's my understanding that the neon lamps fail not only from contamination caused by depletion of electrode material, but also potentially from gas leakage due to imperfect sealing.
What surprises me is that light can be a sufficient stimulus to make a tired neon lamp work again, at least for a while. Others have indicated such to be the case, and offered the suggestion to try pointing a flashlight at the neon indicator lamp to get it going again.
Still, I don't think it's completely ridiculous to think that electrical line noise and distortion of the waveform (or harmonics) could, with some help, get a reticent neon lamp to work again. I say this because I've noticed neon lamps that came into working order (or closer to) when another light was on, despite that light not being "seen" by the neon lamp. The same with highly inductive loads like motors or even switchmode power supplies.
uxwbill Oh, noise definitely could be. I'm no electrician; these are just based on my observations from the power strips I own and have seen. Plus my home probably doesn't have a whole lot of line noise. I'll leave that up to someone more knowledgeable than me to confirm.
the 198 prefix to the model number does indicate that this is a Whirlpool built unit. If you have the serial number along with the full model number you can find out its date of manufacture here: www.appliance411.com/service/date-code.php
tallboyyyy at 9:33 he shows off the Model and serial number plate; I plugged the numbers into that website you mentioned, and it spat out a manufacturing date of September of 1982.
digitalrailroader Yes, he also mentioned that in the description but I was coffee deprived and didn't notice it before I commented.
tallboyyyy just read the description myself; and I too was commenting on a lack of wakefulness and coffee.
Now that I think about I realize I've never smelled rancid ice cream before.
My neon lights in my power strips do the opposite. They come on when the lights are off and turn off when the lights are on.
I gather that it was produced in 1981. Sears always had the first 2 digits in the Model after the "3-set" (116, 198, 110) stand for the year, be it letters or numbers.
i once had a washing machine in the back of my polo
it fit nicely with room to spare
Back when sears stood behind everything they sold, not anymore......
...and that's why they are tanking today.
They don't even make tools anymore! they buy them from china.bummer :-(
Sears never made their own tools. Craftsman brand hand tools are still made here in the US, although the brand is no longer owned by Sears.
I was thinking it was made in 1983 or earlier, due to the older design of the Sears logo. Looks like someone already pinpointed it by the serial number being made in September 1982, which ironically is when my parents got married.
Man, I own one of these now after purchasing a home. If only it would work! Condenser warm to the touch but never cools!
Given that the condenser is warm, there may be a restriction in the system preventing the proper flow of refrigerant. Unfortunately, these generally are not worth repairing, especially a model as old as this one. Anything involving service to the coils is almost impossible, given the blown in foam insulation and extensive disassembly that would be required.
Well my Model # 11098 is of similar vintage and has one of the same problems as yours - the gasket has come loose from the back side of the lid! How should I go about repairing that damage?
The only real fix is replacing the gasket. You might be able to glue or clip/clamp it in place somehow, though such fixes are only likely to be temporary.
Do the authorities give you flack for picking things up off the curb?
Not at all. Around these parts, it's basically considered that someone has surrendered their rights to a piece of property when they discard it. Sometimes I'll ask as a courtesy if anyone happens to be around, but I've never been hassled even when I picked stuff up right in front of the people who tossed it. To the best of my recollection, I've never been told that I couldn't take something from someone's trash.
Nobody was around when I picked up this freezer, and the house nearby was completely empty. Someone had left some lights on.
+uxwbill that's something I never understood, why do some people get mad for taking their garbage?
It's obvious they didn't want it, what's the problem with letting someone else take it away for free?
I understand security with taxes and other forms, but those are supposed to be shredded anyways.
OK, it was reminding me of a story I read a few years back (on Consumerist, I think); about a guy in NY who got fined somewhere around $2,000 for grabbing an AC unit off the curb (despite having permission from the person who put it there). There was apparently "garbage police" watching it & he ran afoul of some law because he transported it in a motorized vehicle (!!!). Ultimately, he fought the city in court & they threw out the case.
I've heard of such laws existing in larger cities and more populated areas. Which is just another reason why I'd never want to live in such a place (beyond its never being truly quiet or dark at night). Clearly some lawmaker didn't have enough to do, or had a vested interest in making sure nobody could recycle anything in the best way possible (by reusing it).
For years my father would pick up appliances and electronics while doing his day job (his employer didn't care). Later, we'd repair them, usually right there on the driveway and ultimately sell them. Some didn't even need any repair. Perhaps the best of all was the fully loaded avocado green Maytag washing machine that my mother swore up and down he'd never sell because nobody wanted an appliance in that color any more. No sooner than we'd repaired it and were doing a load of laundry on the driveway, two guys pulled up in a van and bought the machine right in front of my mother's disbelieving eyes.
I tell this story not only because I find it highly amusing, but to underscore the fact that for years, my father and I had our pick of everything that people threw away. And in the higher income neighborhoods, that was nice some stuff. It'd sit and nobody would touch it until the trash collection came along. When the economy fell apart in 2009 or so, suddenly the metal scrappers emerged in full force, driving old pickup trucks up and down the street in the early hours of the morning to get metal from whatever they could find in people's trash.
Nice find! That's really strange on the lamp.
I've had good luck with roll on, one part, appliance paint. I think it was rustoleum branded.
i have a imperial true test freezer from probably the 80's and it still works but the light quit working before i got it and it didnt burn out either. idk what went wrong
are u sure that the switch for the lights isnt connected to the freezer. also if you look at the amber light are straight on you might see it lit. It worked for me.
The neon lamp is a pilot light. It is supposed to be on any time the freezer is connected to power. It has a wide viewing angle.
I always love watching these videos, I have a similar situation where if I bring home roadside treasures to tinker with, I'll likely be spoken to vehemently about it. I can't explain it, but there is something both fascinating and oddly heartwarming about seeing supposedly "junk" appliances come to life. thanks for showing the freezer uxwbill, and I'm really curious about the neon situation there because I have an old computer power switch array. It's one that used to sit under a monitor and has individual power switches for Master, Computer, Monitor, Print, and Aux 1 and 2. Master, Computer, monitor, and aux 2 light up fine, but printer and aux 1 are faint, and I'm starting to wonder if either they aren't fully dead yet, or if the lights in the switches are being kept alive by the good ones on either side of them. Gave me something to look into.
Sometimes I can't win no matter what I do. :-) Back in the winter I spotted a Whirlpool washing machine set out on the curb. I was really going to pick it up and repair it -- something I hadn't done in almost two decades! The drain pumps on these things are often plastic bodied and with it being below freezing, I felt that the odds of its having cracked were just too great.
When I told my father of this, his exact words were "you really let your skimmer leak". In other words, I *should* have picked it up!
He and I used to do a pretty good business of picking up washers, dryers and even the odd stove to repair and sell.
Cheezy though it may sound, there's something really satisfying to me about taking something that's either hopelessly dead or left for dead and seeing it come back to life. I'm not sure this is either of justifiable or logical, but one upon a time these things were brand new and sitting in a showroom for sale somewhere. People *cared* about them at some point. They *mattered* to someone. And when everyone else has forgotten, I'm the guy who comes along to remember and care once again. There are times I wish these things could tell stories.
(I'm sure that sounds really stupid to some people.)
Time gets even with all neon lamps, either through the gas charge leaking down/becoming contaminated or electrode wear within the lamp. Some are more susceptible than others. Only 46 years after it was made did the "surface units" NE2 lamp in my 1971 Hotpoint stove finally become weak, and I suspect it may have simply slipped away from the plastic lens through which it would shine. All the others (for the ovens) still work as new. Like LEDs, neon lamps need a series limiting resistor and I suspect some manufacturers just drove them too hard, leading to an accelerated demise.
It's sad that the R12 compressor on that thing is so quiet compared to the R600a-gassed Husky branded fridge I have in my bedroom (for cold drinks and occasional sandwiches!), as it sounds like it's got a diesel generator in there at times, but, that's what happens when you let china build things, they just don't get it right... :\
I know it's not the R600a gas at fault (as much as I distrust Isobutane for it's propensity to leak, catch fire and burn down London tower blocks) as the Bosch fridge I salvaged last year (& gave to the uncle as a swap for the Husky) is nice and quiet...
Grenfell block was the result of incompetence, denial and profiteering.
I doubt whether my statement can be argued with,
J.
Average Joe no denying that, I was referring to the claimed initial cause of the fire, what happened afterwards was an avoidable tragedy that was caused by penny-pinching turds...
Greedy shysters might be a better accolade?, And no, im not a nazi!
Average Joe there's plenty of names given to them, but putting effort into namecalling doesn't get them behind bars any faster...
The compressor in my mother's Whirlpool refrigerator is much the same way. Sometimes it starts and runs alarmingly loudly for a few seconds. Other times it's fine.
Near as I can tell, only small refrigerators and freezers seem to be going the route of using isobutane for refrigerant. Dehumidifiers and room air conditioners now seem to be using R-410a exclusively. Perhaps the combination of isobutane and a fan moving air around the room is a very bad mix should something go wrong?
I walked past a row of small refrigerators for sale in a Wal-Mart store and I could *smell* the isobutane.
Why not did you try putting that thing in the back of the wagon?
I wasn't driving the wagon at the time and I'm not going to put something that's stinky, rusty and dirty in there!
A day not learning something is a day you wasted
I have a newer 7 cubic ft chest freezer.
It quit freezing. Is it possible to get to the condenser coils to clean them?
Generally, no. The condenser coil is usually built into the case assembly and you can't get at it. There has likely been a refrigerant leak, a restriction in the system or the compressor is no longer pumping/running. When these fail, it's usually a throwaway situation.
*Caution* : a newer model freezer or refrigerator may be using a *flammable* refrigerant, such as butane or propane. Although there is very little refrigerant in the system, it could still start a fire if it gets out and is ignited somehow.
I'm thinking this is an early 1980s model...the Sears logo is that used from the 60s into the early 1980s before they changed again was on a sticker under the lid.
That's a new one. uxwbill saying groovy lol.
John Smith haha
Love the almond joke XD
The authorities=family?... yep, called it
Uxwbill what kind computer is that on desk ??
Dear uxwbill, very interesting video I do however have a air conditioning question for you. I recently purchased a new 12,000 BTU window air conditioner and it does not have A drain for the water to escape The condenser fan does hit the water throwing it everywhere do I need to be concerned with this? Thank you very much!
No, because that is how most window air conditioners are designed. Slinging the water around helps to cool the compressor, fan motor and most importantly, the condenser (outside) coil. Some units have an "overflow" hole and some don't.
the66volks ok
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Have you noticed when sgarting up one yhese fins that they get very hot to the touch until the reach freezing inside i got a hajd me down that was fully dethawed and sat for wile plugeed it in compresors on i hear ut ticking inside getting frosty but the outside is very hot to touch i used a thermometer on it and it was around 98 degrees
That's because a refrigeration system is a heat exchange device -- they move heat from one area to another.
Uxwbill: thank you for your video!
I have an old chest freezer myself. It was a used model and very old when I bought it from a guy who was selling it out of his garage. It has served me very, very well for The better part of 10 years.This winter, I got Covid, and still have it, so I was not able to defrost my freezer. There is lots of frost, and the food has been frozen. Until two days ago. I noticed that the frozen foods were not rockhard. Today, some of the meat is actually thawed out completely. I am astonished that there could be so much frost in a freezer, yet the food inside thawed out. The freezer is still making all the right sounds. There doesn’t appear to be any obstruction keeping it from closing. Any suggestions? I’d sure appreciate any ideas that you have. There’s just no way I can go out and shop for another, And I really don’t want to lose the winter food supply in it.
Excessive frost can start to act as a form of insulation, keeping the cold from getting to where it needs to be. It can also make the thermostat operate incorrectly.
Stuff that's thawed out completely needs to be prepared immediately or discarded. It's not worth taking the chance. If it's still partially frozen or at least cold (below 35F or so), refreezing is probably OK, but the taste and texture may not be as good. It's time to make defrosting the freezer a priority. You'll need some coolers or someone who's got extra freezer space and would let you borrow it for a while. Boiling water in a pan can be used with great care to speed the defrosting process. Just be careful not to damage anything by melting it. Never use a sharp object to remove frost, or it's new freezer time at that point.
Sealed refrigeration systems are very reliable. Leaks are rare but they can happen. Controls can also fail. Repairs to the actual sealed parts of the refrigeration are almost always not worth it, and may not be possible depending upon where the problem is located.
uxwbill: Tysvk 4 this; I have already moved all of the meat products that were still at least partially frozen, and heartbreakingly threw out one roast. I hope to finish up the process tomorrow. Tomorrow will be a day of making huge quantities of jam and preserves. :-)
Nice score!
So I just got a deep freezer from a friend. Smells like rotten fish and such. How do u clean yours at the car wash without damaging it?
I just turned the wand on it with soap. If you're worried about damaging something, use the lowest pressure and maybe skip the soap.
@@uxwbill Ok. Thanks. I appreciate it. 😊
Jiggly Bumflesh: How did your deep freeze clean up?
I put a 1961 Harley Davidson FLH Duo Glide into the trunk of a ford granada! (I had to remove the trunk lid and shove it into the backseat)
I had one of those and it broke without me knowing for 4 weeks with a turkey ham and many other stuff
i left my freezer unplugged two weeks with meat inside and it was a stinking mess and full of water. i decided to replugged it let freeze and clean it up. lesson learned😥
Neon lights start to flicker due to aging but Black lights/ultra violet lights makes a flickering neon light work like new as you put the ultra violet light super close to the neon light.
I posted a video of the effects that a ultra violet light has with a flickering neon light a few days ago.
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well maybe next time you purchase a truck you'll listen to me and get a Ford LOL
Or maybe he'll do what he wants with his money.
Yep
Do you all sell chest freeze door what the price please
No.
what year Merc? I had a 78 Merc Grand Marquis :)
2009, one of the last of the real cars.
uxwbill I wholeheartedly agree :)
some paint and you can easily get 50-100 for it.
theres no town garbage collection????
Nope. Around here you pay for private trash collection service or you go without. I've found that some people actually do go without, when I've come around to clean out their property.
Same thing here. living in western NC, you have to go take your trash to county-provided dumpsters.
It's common for small and rural towns to not have garbage collection, I'm from Muncie, Indiana where they have a very nice garbage collection service where you get big Toters you wheel out to the street but I bought a house in Hartford City which is the next county north and while they do have city garbage collection they have a bag limit and you have to go to the city hall and pay and they give you a sticker for each additional bag or for disposal of a large item like a TV and anything you put out has to be able to be lifter by hand since they still do manual collection.
Too bad I didn't take a picture of the treadmill in the back of my Toyota corolla.
I'd listen to a band called Rancid Icecream if it existed.
If you play an instrument, this could be your big break. :-P
You should do a funky color. Though, I understand if you just use what you happen to have.
Have Hoarders been called to do an intervention yet?
I'm more concerned about who's going to stage an intervention for your manners.
LOL
Dude a body was in that freezer.
Nope.
from appliance411 when I entered the model and serial "According to the serial number this product may have been manufactured in St. Paul, MN, September of 1972 or 1982 or 2012."
Jasons1487 my money is on 2012
The use of R-12 refrigerant was phased out in the 1990s. So no, it wasn't made in 2012.
Nah, judging from the look of the Kenmore logo and the information cards on the inside-top of the chest, it's not from 2012. It's hard to place on the stylistic decisions made concerning appliances because it looks to have a few design choices common in the 70s and 80s, but overall I peg it as an 80's freezer. It just has that kind of look about it you know?
4:28 body parts maybe? :P
Damn man.. Your garage looks as bad as mine... LOL
I put one in the trunk of a 93 Benz 300 haha. But I'm a fix it.
I know that must be the truth (Benz related) I owned an 82' 300 E, and currently own a 92' 400 E... They are the TARDIS of the real world. "Bigger on the inside". Anyway let's learn about freezer door seals, thanks.😁
why do a whole video on this lol.
Why watch it if you weren't interested?
@@uxwbill totally randomly showed up i mighta youtubed "a/c cooler" or something lol
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First like first comment XD