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Until there is 3rd party controller that can do Eucon, I'll keep it within Avid's ecosystem. Pro Tools integration with Eucon is another level and HUI has so many limitations. On the other hand Console 1 plugin is a workflow that is not for everyone, including me. But this is really cool. What we need to do is try and push avid to open Eucon protocol to the market!
Definitely the most complete review, especially for ProTools users. This could be the best replacement for the good old Artist Mix and it costs less than a used S1.
What the majority of these paid reviews won’t tell you: 1. The console won’t follow track selection outside of the selected bank. For example, if the bank is set to tracks 1-8 and you select any track beyond that, the console Will NOT follow. 2. While Pro Tools and many other DAWs has 10 sends, this console can only control the first 6. 3. It supports a maximum of 99 tracks.
What people like youdon't understand: this was not a paid review. Two, what you're describing is a limitation of HUI protocol, not the controller. Piece of advice stop assuming, you're not good at it. Carry on.
@@mixbustv 5:20 You said, “Does it follow track selection? Absolutely yes.” Well, sorry, I didn’t realize you paid to get the prototype console. Don’t get me wrong, I like your channel and appreciate what you’re doing for the community, but some important information should be clearer. Many consumers, including myself, would buy it expecting that feature, only to be surprised when it doesn’t follow the tracks throughout the entire session. Does it have assigning buttons and play/stop/record functionality?
Let me write it again: YES IT DOES and if you weren't blind you could have seen it. And if you knew anything, you'd also know the HUI limitations which have nothing to do with the controller itself, hence, you writing "what they don't tell you" it's completely useless because HUI has been around forever and everyone knows. And guess what? Yes I have access to things before gen pop, cry about it.
Oh, wow, you’re really out here doing the Lord’s work, enlightening us poor fools who clearly can’t keep up with your brilliance. The way you casually throw around your early access, as if anyone’s actually impressed, is truly inspiring. And thank you for explaining HUI limitations, because obviously, without your guidance, we’d all be stumbling in the dark. Must be tough being this extraordinary. Hope your back’s okay from carrying all that ego around. By the way, are you wearing those Eve Audio speakers like a fashion statement headphones, or is your room so tiny they just seem that close? Or maybe you’re mixing so advanced you’ve outsourced it to the neighbors? Just dying to understand your genius. 😅
I was so stoked about it until I realized it doesn't have pan encoders for each track. I gotta pan quickly and would like to pan two pairs of tracks left and right super fast. with this controller you'd have to select each track and do a pan one at a time. DAMN Softube... so close! I'm going to stick with my SSL UF8 for now.
I don’t believe this was covered in the video, but I just got my unit today (I signed up on Softube’s site for the early notification and sale). I can confirm that there is a “Pan” button on the left side of the unit that converts the faders into pan controllers for each displayed track. If there are specific tracks you want to pan, favorite them with the “Favorites” button, then press “Shift” and “Favorites” at the same time. Then press “Pan”… and Voila.
Pretty neat. Looks like a good controller, an actual alternative to the Avid stuff. I'll certainly be checking out the documentation of the unit. My current controller Faderport 16 was quite easy to support in CSI for Reaper. This ought to be interesting. Thanks for the overview.
Thanks for the video! With all respect, it doesn't make sense to me. I love and got the Console 1 channel MK III but instead for the Console 1 fader MK III i use the SSL UF-1. The best of both worlds in my humble opinion.
yea i couldn’t wait for that so i got the MKIII CONSOLE AND 2 MKIII FADERS and the PRESONUS FADER PORT V2 for my TRANSPORT everything arrived yesterday so EARLY XMAS FOR ME ❤🎉😅
@@klownaround5464 got my set about a month ago and it’s great .I’m strongly contemplating getting the presonus faderport 2 but im waiting to see if @softube will make a transport controller 😂
This is so freaking gamechanging! Maybe they come with package deal of console one and the fader who knows. I dont own any of them but that might change. Seems like they was inspired by wes audio which is dope!
Thank you for your insightful review. You said this is the best out there. The question I have is, how can it be the best with no transport controls , jog wheel and only one pan control unless you use the faders themselves. The SSL UF8 has transport controls, small jog wheel and separate pan controls on each channel. I will admit this Mark III integrates much better with Softube's plug in controller however.
I don't care for the transport control. It's never faster than hitting the spacebar. And I've never used the job wheel in my entire career I think. I would take the play stop if they where there but I rather see full names and have better integration than extra knobs and a taller profile
Ok so transport would have been good, or can we at least programme some into the mk3, simple stop / play / record. That said it’s super dope although losing track data twice so far, any idea how to create a master, do I just create a send and use that? I moned there was no off button, I stand corrected ( ok so it sleeps itself ) I am liking this a lot.
yea i couldn’t wait for that so i got the MKIII CONSOLE AND 2 MKIII FADERS and the PRESONUS FADER PORT V2 for my TRANSPORT everything arrived yesterday so EARLY XMAS FOR ME ❤🎉😅
They have deep integration with Reaper already and have for years now. I think they support FL Studio, too, but I don't use that DAW, so I can't speak to it.
Do you not find that if you have multiple plugins on your master fader any fader automation written is way late? It’s an issue I’ve had with every controller I’ve had which has mad them all pretty much unusable, and I’ve had quite a few.
@@mixbustv It's actually a years old known issue with pro tools if you're nesting audio through busses. Glad to hear you don't experience it. Drives me nuts!
Well I'm biased of course, Fader all day, but for me it's a full system with C1. But besides that, I would prefer Fader anyway, low profile and it looks sick, plus the haptic feedback
Interesting,,, Is the HUI protocol still limited to 128 steps......? Been a while,.. I guess I loved the Eucon protocol to get around the limitations of HUI, Im guessing the HUI protocol has moved forward? Looks great through,,, Does the handshake between this and Console 1 bypass the limitation?
@@mixbustv Ah..Thanks. HUI protocol sux. Just like SSL use their own drivers.. eucon and other control surfaces... It can be beyond midi the original implementation... I guess though.. Its the fault of avid.... not allowing better protocols... Unless you by their own surfaces... Damn.. I hate Avid as a company...
@@mixbustv thanks for your fast assessment, I contacted the amazing Softube support and they helped me out. It is a case that the developers are aware of and will be addressed in an update. Trying to go to the On-Screen Display and turn off DAW control and turn it back on did the trick! Together with restarting OSD and Pro Tools.
@mixbustv to open a folder track. For example, if you have a Routing Folder track on the first fader, is there a soft key on the console that you can map to open the folder. Actually, to simplify, can you assign a keyboard shortcut to a button on a console?
yea i couldn’t wait for that so i got the MKIII CONSOLE AND 2 MKIII FADERS and the PRESONUS FADER PORT V2 for my TRANSPORT everything arrived yesterday so EARLY XMAS FOR ME ❤🎉😅
Looks nice but why only one pan knob ? … :-( tweaking faders and pan knobs in the same time for two tracks (or jumping quickly from one to another …) is something usual, isn’t it ?
No pan knobs have to push a button and use the fader to do so. No real screen info kinda makes me sad. I look at the avid s1 and the amount of control it has seems to be the better option. I could be wrong. But I like access to more controls especially pan knobs.
😄 no you don't. There is a pan knob AND if you want you can use the fader ALSO. And what do you mean no screen info? It has more info than any other 3rd party fader unit. S1 is discontinued
@@mixbustv remember on the artist control. The individual pan knobs would’ve loved that. The info on the s1 in combination with the iPad is great. Really like that functionality and having a meter bridge on the screens is nice. Thank you for correcting me on the pan. The previous video I had watched they only showed you having to push a button then use your fader as the pan control and I was like whaaat? I spoke a little too soon before finishing your video. Maybe you know something I don’t, but Avid S1 isn’t discontinued. It’s still in production. Unless you got the heads up from avid they are discontinuing it soon? This unit from softube is nice no doubt. I just wish there was a little different of a layout.
Most functions are available on SSL 360 a long time ago. Fader has to many shift + functions. I want knob by function...so ssl is the way to go or to stay.
I love what you do and your expertise on some of the products I own based on your recommendation. I have to say though that to say this is the best controller, particularly for Pro Tool, is wrong and misleading. As you know, every professional studio in the world like yours, uses Pro Tools. I have the Channel Mkiii and love it, but the fader, as limited by hui, is pretty useless with Pro Tools. To say that it is so cool that the faders move faders in PT, or the pan knobs, mute, sole etc. and flip for sends works is silly because every hui unit does this. I'm not sure who Softube think this unit is aimed at. Nothing comes remotely close to Eucon, so after testing the Fader mkiii and returning it, I'll stick with my S3. Bring on the mkIV with transport (and Eucon if Avid ever open that access).
@@mixbustv Thanks for the quick response, but the whole point with Pro Tools is that Eucon really is the only way to go for professional work, and that should be said. Why spend $1k on a unit that is this limited? Let;s not get folks to spend their money and find out it was a mistake. And this is coming from someone who swears by Softube. The S3 will open every plug-in on the market with the full visuals on top of everything else it does. Yes Eucon is a closed system geared to the professional world and used by everyone in the business. Love your work David and I assume you have heard it all before.
EUCON can control a type of channel. Audio, MDI, VCA, etc. As long as it has a fader, it can control it. Can the Softube Fader? This s a severe limitation with any controller that relies on an audio plugin to be inserted. They won't work on MIDI, VCA, or any type of channels that doesn't pass audio. The SSL-360-Link system is a good example of this. Another important thing that you (and every other reviewer of fader control surfaces) constantly neglects to mention is: Does it follow the visibility settings of the channels in the DAW. This has been a feature of EUCON, for a long long time. It took Stenberg about 6 years of nagging (from me and others) to finally implement this important part of EUCON, but they finally did. I always hide channels in the Cubase MixConsole, that I don't need to see at the moment. Having all of these (could amount to hundreds) clogging up the controller, quickly becomes unmanageable! Perhaps you could check how the Softube handles this. Does it follow the visibility setting in the DAW? These two things: Controlling (and following) any channel type, and following the visibility setting in Cubase, are the reasons that I still rely on my aging Avid Artist Mix controller. I should replace it, but I simply haven't found anything to replace it with! I'm not prepared to sacrifice these vital abilities!
I dont understand why we're using HUI in a $1k control surface in 2024 and not Eucon protocol over ethernet? The latter has far far better integration with PT and Cubendo. Is the Eucon license really that expensive? Same with SSL controllers...they need tinkering under the hood to make the older midi compatible protocols useable with 2024 software, and that tinkering has proved to be far from popular or indeed consistent with folks who've just parted with a considerable investment that's just shy of a fully integrated Avid controller with Eucon. Also, with no dedicated Cubendo compatibility mode...that's a bit of an oversight. Having said all that, Softube really does set a high bar, I just wonder about their design choices. I'm sure they have their reasons.
@AxeRocker88 I don't know why they didn't put it on this one. They dropped the ball. Put a transport and a jog wheel on it, and it would've been perfect. Now I still have to grab my mouse🤦♂️😪. Look at the SSL, Behringer, Presonus, Icon, & Avid controllers. They all have a Transport and a jog wheel on them. After years of creating this Softube Fader, why did they decide not to put a transport on it🤔?
Some of us don’t want to use the Console 1 but just the fader. Why did they get rid of the Transport buttons? I wanted the Play/Stop on the fader so bad! 🥲
This comes with 10 faders. Idk why anyone would want to buy a uf1 type device just for transport control. I think Softube made a mistake by not adding transport to this. You’ll still need a mouse or keyboard… smh
@@mixbustv Yeah I thought you had transport functions on the C1 MKIII hence why I said some of us would simply want to use the Fader and would like to have the transport features on there too (thinking the C1 had them). I think it’s very necessary if they really want us to not use the mouse as they’re marketing this. I can control Play and I believe Stop on the MKII fader.
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i'd imagine it'll drop in price by 1/3rd in 6 months like the other Mk3 unit
Gives me time to save the remaining 2/3... Suits me 😂
Actually they gave us the discount in a voucher for the Fader 1 :)
@@ArguZ72how? I didn't get any
Until there is 3rd party controller that can do Eucon, I'll keep it within Avid's ecosystem. Pro Tools integration with Eucon is another level and HUI has so many limitations. On the other hand Console 1 plugin is a workflow that is not for everyone, including me. But this is really cool. What we need to do is try and push avid to open Eucon protocol to the market!
I CANNOT wait for it to drop!!!! Hurry up Softube!
Definitely the most complete review, especially for ProTools users. This could be the best replacement for the good old Artist Mix and it costs less than a used S1.
What the majority of these paid reviews won’t tell you:
1. The console won’t follow track selection outside of the selected bank. For example, if the bank is set to tracks 1-8 and you select any track beyond that, the console Will NOT follow.
2. While Pro Tools and many other DAWs has 10 sends, this console can only control the first 6.
3. It supports a maximum of 99 tracks.
What people like youdon't understand: this was not a paid review. Two, what you're describing is a limitation of HUI protocol, not the controller. Piece of advice stop assuming, you're not good at it. Carry on.
@@mixbustv 5:20 You said, “Does it follow track selection? Absolutely yes.”
Well, sorry, I didn’t realize you paid to get the prototype console.
Don’t get me wrong, I like your channel and appreciate what you’re doing for the community, but some important information should be clearer. Many consumers, including myself, would buy it expecting that feature, only to be surprised when it doesn’t follow the tracks throughout the entire session.
Does it have assigning buttons and play/stop/record functionality?
Let me write it again: YES IT DOES and if you weren't blind you could have seen it. And if you knew anything, you'd also know the HUI limitations which have nothing to do with the controller itself, hence, you writing "what they don't tell you" it's completely useless because HUI has been around forever and everyone knows. And guess what? Yes I have access to things before gen pop, cry about it.
Oh, wow, you’re really out here doing the Lord’s work, enlightening us poor fools who clearly can’t keep up with your brilliance. The way you casually throw around your early access, as if anyone’s actually impressed, is truly inspiring. And thank you for explaining HUI limitations, because obviously, without your guidance, we’d all be stumbling in the dark. Must be tough being this extraordinary. Hope your back’s okay from carrying all that ego around. By the way, are you wearing those Eve Audio speakers like a fashion statement headphones, or is your room so tiny they just seem that close? Or maybe you’re mixing so advanced you’ve outsourced it to the neighbors? Just dying to understand your genius. 😅
This is great! And as always best review on TH-cam!
I was waiting for you to review this, definitely a big upgrade!
Your reviews are the best! This really makes me want to get both
I was so stoked about it until I realized it doesn't have pan encoders for each track. I gotta pan quickly and would like to pan two pairs of tracks left and right super fast. with this controller you'd have to select each track and do a pan one at a time. DAMN Softube... so close! I'm going to stick with my SSL UF8 for now.
Yeah I understand, planning super fast is a big priority, I can't imagine mixing and not being able to pan super fast 😄
Yes what an oversight! Oh well.
I don’t believe this was covered in the video, but I just got my unit today (I signed up on Softube’s site for the early notification and sale). I can confirm that there is a “Pan” button on the left side of the unit that converts the faders into pan controllers for each displayed track. If there are specific tracks you want to pan, favorite them with the “Favorites” button, then press “Shift” and “Favorites” at the same time. Then press “Pan”… and Voila.
Pretty neat. Looks like a good controller, an actual alternative to the Avid stuff. I'll certainly be checking out the documentation of the unit. My current controller Faderport 16 was quite easy to support in CSI for Reaper. This ought to be interesting. Thanks for the overview.
They need to release this already ... Geez! Thanks for the morning drool! Like many ... I can't wait to pair it up ...
Wow, I love the looks and it seems to really work well with PT
Finally 😂
Will be getting both in due course.
Such a good pair and the vesa mounting will help me with how I wish to set it up
Wow, sold! Such great piece
Looks great! Softube integration works the best for me.
No transport?
Thanks for the video! With all respect, it doesn't make sense to me. I love and got the Console 1 channel MK III but instead for the Console 1 fader MK III i use the SSL UF-1. The best of both worlds in my humble opinion.
Uf-1 is a transport, not sure how you'd even compare it with Fader
Now you really made ma want to get one, dang!
YES please!!!‼️💯👍🏿👍🏿
Let go!!!
I want the set 😩
It looks so cool man.
Is there transport functionality?
yea i couldn’t wait for that so i got the MKIII CONSOLE AND 2 MKIII FADERS and the PRESONUS FADER PORT V2 for my TRANSPORT everything arrived yesterday so EARLY XMAS FOR ME ❤🎉😅
@@klownaround5464 got my set about a month ago and it’s great .I’m strongly contemplating getting the presonus faderport 2 but im waiting to see if @softube will make a transport controller 😂
This is so freaking gamechanging! Maybe they come with package deal of console one and the fader who knows. I dont own any of them but that might change. Seems like they was inspired by wes audio which is dope!
Instant buy - already have the console 1 mk 3
Thank you for your insightful review. You said this is the best out there. The question I have is, how can it be the best with no transport controls , jog wheel and only one pan control unless you use the faders themselves.
The SSL UF8 has transport controls, small jog wheel and separate pan controls on each channel.
I will admit this Mark III integrates much better with Softube's plug in controller however.
I don't care for the transport control. It's never faster than hitting the spacebar. And I've never used the job wheel in my entire career I think. I would take the play stop if they where there but I rather see full names and have better integration than extra knobs and a taller profile
Ok so transport would have been good, or can we at least programme some into the mk3, simple stop / play / record. That said it’s super dope although losing track data twice so far, any idea how to create a master, do I just create a send and use that? I moned there was no off button, I stand corrected ( ok so it sleeps itself ) I am liking this a lot.
Lol you do realize it turns on and off on its own right?
@@mixbustv I never thought of that till I actually let it go to sleep 💤
yea i couldn’t wait for that so i got the MKIII CONSOLE AND 2 MKIII FADERS and the PRESONUS FADER PORT V2 for my TRANSPORT everything arrived yesterday so EARLY XMAS FOR ME ❤🎉😅
@ transport fixed, old iPad and elgatto is perfect for key commands, they give 6 for free of loads for peanuts.
Awesome!
You think they will ever support reaper/fl studio? Also looks like the deadzone on precise movements is fairly large (easy to overshoot)
They have deep integration with Reaper already and have for years now.
I think they support FL Studio, too, but I don't use that DAW, so I can't speak to it.
Do you not find that if you have multiple plugins on your master fader any fader automation written is way late? It’s an issue I’ve had with every controller I’ve had which has mad them all pretty much unusable, and I’ve had quite a few.
No, you're probably exceeding delay compensation
@@mixbustv It's actually a years old known issue with pro tools if you're nesting audio through busses. Glad to hear you don't experience it. Drives me nuts!
@@Glasside Latest Verizon? That's indeed weird. I also only have analog and no plugins on 2bus so might be why I never noticed
UF8 or Fader mk III ?
Well I'm biased of course, Fader all day, but for me it's a full system with C1. But besides that, I would prefer Fader anyway, low profile and it looks sick, plus the haptic feedback
Does the motorized fader works bidirectional? Means when you change volume with the mouse, does the fader move as well?
Of course
@@mixbustv Thx for Info
Looks good, how does it work with pro tools routing folders? Can you expand the folder with tracks inside across the faders?
It'll follow everything you do on the PT mixer
@@mixbustv within selected bank or any channel ?
HUI will always be within the bank
Interesting,,, Is the HUI protocol still limited to 128 steps......? Been a while,.. I guess I loved the Eucon protocol to get around the limitations of HUI, Im guessing the HUI protocol has moved forward?
Looks great through,,, Does the handshake between this and Console 1 bypass the limitation?
You can't "move forward" a protocol, just like MIDI. You can change protocol not change A protocol
@@mixbustv Ah..Thanks. HUI protocol sux. Just like SSL use their own drivers.. eucon and other control surfaces... It can be beyond midi the original implementation...
I guess though.. Its the fault of avid.... not allowing better protocols... Unless you by their own surfaces...
Damn.. I hate Avid as a company...
Thanks for the great Review, as always
You didn't update the software
@@mixbustv thanks for your fast assessment, I contacted the amazing Softube support and they helped me out.
It is a case that the developers are aware of and will be addressed in an update.
Trying to go to the On-Screen Display and turn off DAW control and turn it back on did the trick! Together with restarting OSD and Pro Tools.
Great video as always !!! So if you are in integration with Pro Tools, you only can use 8 out the 10 faders ?
All HUI can use 8 at the time
The Unit seems amazing .. I use Reaper though
Can it spill fader track?
I'm not sure what you mean with "spill"
@mixbustv to open a folder track. For example, if you have a Routing Folder track on the first fader, is there a soft key on the console that you can map to open the folder.
Actually, to simplify, can you assign a keyboard shortcut to a button on a console?
Wow amazing!
No transport controls pretty much negates my desire to buy it
yea i couldn’t wait for that so i got the MKIII CONSOLE AND 2 MKIII FADERS and the PRESONUS FADER PORT V2 for my TRANSPORT everything arrived yesterday so EARLY XMAS FOR ME ❤🎉😅
Looks nice but why only one pan knob ? … :-( tweaking faders and pan knobs in the same time for two tracks (or jumping quickly from one to another …) is something usual, isn’t it ?
And it’s a pity because I loved the format and the look. Beautiful piece of gear.
You can use the faders to control pan
I don't think I've ever touched pans after doing gain stagin if not for automation
@@mixbustv I agree, just a matter of personal worfklow.
@@Rhuggins yes, I’ve seen, but it’s one or another.
No pan knobs have to push a button and use the fader to do so. No real screen info kinda makes me sad. I look at the avid s1 and the amount of control it has seems to be the better option.
I could be wrong. But I like access to more controls especially pan knobs.
😄 no you don't. There is a pan knob AND if you want you can use the fader ALSO. And what do you mean no screen info? It has more info than any other 3rd party fader unit. S1 is discontinued
@@mixbustv remember on the artist control. The individual pan knobs would’ve loved that. The info on the s1 in combination with the iPad is great. Really like that functionality and having a meter bridge on the screens is nice.
Thank you for correcting me on the pan. The previous video I had watched they only showed you having to push a button then use your fader as the pan control and I was like whaaat?
I spoke a little too soon before finishing your video.
Maybe you know something I don’t, but Avid S1 isn’t discontinued.
It’s still in production. Unless you got the heads up from avid they are discontinuing it soon?
This unit from softube is nice no doubt. I just wish there was a little different of a layout.
Most functions are available on SSL 360 a long time ago. Fader has to many shift + functions. I want knob by function...so ssl is the way to go or to stay.
I rather have double functions than a clusterfuk, and this has better integration, lower profile too
Looks kool how does this compare with ssl uf1 uf8
I like this better, better integration too
Hui is such an old protocol, be good to see how it performs with Logic..
I love what you do and your expertise on some of the products I own based on your recommendation. I have to say though that to say this is the best controller, particularly for Pro Tool, is wrong and misleading. As you know, every professional studio in the world like yours, uses Pro Tools. I have the Channel Mkiii and love it, but the fader, as limited by hui, is pretty useless with Pro Tools. To say that it is so cool that the faders move faders in PT, or the pan knobs, mute, sole etc. and flip for sends works is silly because every hui unit does this. I'm not sure who Softube think this unit is aimed at. Nothing comes remotely close to Eucon, so after testing the Fader mkiii and returning it, I'll stick with my S3. Bring on the mkIV with transport (and Eucon if Avid ever open that access).
But that's the whole point. Eucon it's a different thing and it IS closed and will never be opened
@@mixbustv Thanks for the quick response, but the whole point with Pro Tools is that Eucon really is the only way to go for professional work, and that should be said. Why spend $1k on a unit that is this limited? Let;s not get folks to spend their money and find out it was a mistake. And this is coming from someone who swears by Softube. The S3 will open every plug-in on the market with the full visuals on top of everything else it does. Yes Eucon is a closed system geared to the professional world and used by everyone in the business. Love your work David and I assume you have heard it all before.
This was made for cuebase the integration is on another level. Seems pro tools wasn’t the priority. Interesting. They need to put an off button. 🙈
Not correct. Pro Tools integration limitations depending on Avid, not Softube
EUCON can control a type of channel. Audio, MDI, VCA, etc. As long as it has a fader, it can control it. Can the Softube Fader? This s a severe limitation with any controller that relies on an audio plugin to be inserted. They won't work on MIDI, VCA, or any type of channels that doesn't pass audio. The SSL-360-Link system is a good example of this.
Another important thing that you (and every other reviewer of fader control surfaces) constantly neglects to mention is: Does it follow the visibility settings of the channels in the DAW. This has been a feature of EUCON, for a long long time. It took Stenberg about 6 years of nagging (from me and others) to finally implement this important part of EUCON, but they finally did. I always hide channels in the Cubase MixConsole, that I don't need to see at the moment. Having all of these (could amount to hundreds) clogging up the controller, quickly becomes unmanageable!
Perhaps you could check how the Softube handles this. Does it follow the visibility setting in the DAW?
These two things: Controlling (and following) any channel type, and following the visibility setting in Cubase, are the reasons that I still rely on my aging Avid Artist Mix controller. I should replace it, but I simply haven't found anything to replace it with! I'm not prepared to sacrifice these vital abilities!
You don't need the C1 plugin to use the faders
For me SSL UF8 BEST
only this has better integration
Should I wait for mkiv?
I'll stick with mu UF8
I prefer my old C1 and F1. I don’t know why .. maybe because of less Electronic 😅
I dont understand why we're using HUI in a $1k control surface in 2024 and not Eucon protocol over ethernet? The latter has far far better integration with PT and Cubendo. Is the Eucon license really that expensive? Same with SSL controllers...they need tinkering under the hood to make the older midi compatible protocols useable with 2024 software, and that tinkering has proved to be far from popular or indeed consistent with folks who've just parted with a considerable investment that's just shy of a fully integrated Avid controller with Eucon.
Also, with no dedicated Cubendo compatibility mode...that's a bit of an oversight. Having said all that, Softube really does set a high bar, I just wonder about their design choices. I'm sure they have their reasons.
For starters it is probably because this is a complete system, C1 is the main unit and the two need to communicate
@@mixbustv That makes sense. It has to work within their own ecosystem.
I wish they had a TRANSPORT on it so I wouldn't have to touch the mouse. Why not put the Play, Stop, Rewind, Forward, & Go Back button on there😢?
For sure you have a computer keyboard beneath it? It can control all the transport functions.
I'm betting they have another controller coming for those features.
@AxeRocker88 I don't know why they didn't put it on this one. They dropped the ball. Put a transport and a jog wheel on it, and it would've been perfect. Now I still have to grab my mouse🤦♂️😪. Look at the SSL, Behringer, Presonus, Icon, & Avid controllers. They all have a Transport and a jog wheel on them.
After years of creating this Softube Fader, why did they decide not to put a transport on it🤔?
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A controller fully integrates with Pro Tools that isn't an Avid controller? Whaaa!
It doesn't "fully" integrate. It's constrained by the HUI protocol, but it seems to have some 'hacks' to do some HUI things better than others.
I love the look, much better than the SSL imho
SSL definitely looks better.
Maybe you can show this to the hater dude that Console 1 also has UAD integration 😂
Who are they kidding with the price?
I seem to be the only person who doesn't like the updated versions of softube
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I've just ordered it because Fader mk1 is my daily driver for mixing but no transport buttons from mk1 is a very strange move which I really dislike.
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NOBODY IS SHOWING HOW TO CONNECT THIS TO AN INTERFACE OR THE CONNECTIONS OVERALL!!!
😂 because you don't connect it to an interface. It's a usb cable lol
protools ppl think nothing everything evolves around them. ppl have literally moved on
Must be why there's a PRO TOOLS mode lol
@@mixbustv just saying most of us new Gen are moving to studio one for mix/master value for money
Those units are not
Matching colors 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Are you sure you wanna facepalm? Have you thought instead that is the different position, cameras and lighting? Lol 😂 dude..
$1000. Pass.
Too cheap?
@@mixbustv The Console 1 Fader Mk III? For what it does it is not worth it for me.
Overpriced
😂 it's like going into a Lamborghini dealer to say "it's too expensive". This is quite cheap actually.
Some of us don’t want to use the Console 1 but just the fader. Why did they get rid of the Transport buttons? I wanted the Play/Stop on the fader so bad! 🥲
You can use the fader without C1, not sure why you think you can't. I agree on the play/stop I'd like to have that too
I’m actually guessing the probably will come up with another unit that are with transport. Like SSL UF1
This comes with 10 faders. Idk why anyone would want to buy a uf1 type device just for transport control. I think Softube made a mistake by not adding transport to this. You’ll still need a mouse or keyboard… smh
@@mixbustv Yeah I thought you had transport functions on the C1 MKIII hence why I said some of us would simply want to use the Fader and would like to have the transport features on there too (thinking the C1 had them). I think it’s very necessary if they really want us to not use the mouse as they’re marketing this. I can control Play and I believe Stop on the MKII fader.
@@V12_smoke 100% agree! I don’t know why neta testers haven’t mentioned this. 😕