I agree. I know the other composers did their best, and maybe I just need to listen to their music more, but I feel that, with an occasional exception, none of the music from the later movies is as memorable or distinctive as when Williams did the scoring. It's almost as though, as the movies got darker, less whimsical, and less colorful, so did the music.
@MaxtothePower actually harry did have a theme. You can hear it in this video at 17:22. I don't know if that's what you referred to as the "family theme" but it is most definitely Harry's theme.
What makes his musical tapestry so fierce and forboding is how it interludes in a variety of ways, There's the "He Who Must Not Be Named Theme" that is the bouncier figure played on low horns @16:00 (it shows up when he is only spoken of) The "Voldemort's Evil Deeds" which is a dark fanfare with horns trombones playing @16:12 (This one shows up less but is used more as a punctuating mark or climax for darker scenes) The Full "Voldemort Theme" @16:34 is the all-encompassing theme of the villain The "Sorcerer's Stone" theme 16:50 while less related to the villain personally does in fact work as a counterpoint, played along with the Voldemort theme John Williams is a genius and such a storyteller of music
I have always said that the different composers and directors was the biggest mistake in the film series. I think that if john willimas and Colombus had done all, the overall result had been better.
Regarding Columbus I'm not so sure. The first two movies set the tone but, specially with The Chamber of Secrets, it suffers fron certain "blandness". Not that David Yates was any better, mind you. In fact he was probably worse.
There's a bit of a merging of two themes here. There's Voldemort's Theme And then there's what I would call the Sorcerer's Stone Theme, since it always played when they see or talk about it or Nicholas Flamel in the first one. It's that 3-note chord progression designed to be mysterious and dramatic. It's used side by side with Voldemort's Theme when he confronts him by the Mirror of Erised. Additionally, it's used in the 2nd one when they open the entrance to the Chamber of Secrets. So it's easy to see why the two would be lumped together.
I’d say the Sorcerer’s Stone theme was recontextualized in Chamber of Secrets as an “Immortality Theme” which is closely related to Voldemort. On a first viewing, hearing the Sorcerer’s Stone leitmotif in the sequel could be brushed off as just a reuse of themes, but when Tom Riddle is revealed to be Voldemort, and associated with the theme, I think it’s appropriate to see it as a broader thematic piece than just relating it to the Stone. Who knows what Williams could have done down the line. Perhaps the Stone theme could evolve into the Horcrux theme.
Yes thats correct. Voldemorts Theme consists of two parts, one can be heard at 5:49 and the other one at 6:12. The Philosopher's Stone (or Sorcerer's Stone) motif (also called Three-Note-Motif) got reused in HP2. Because John Williams was totally busy at that time, he contacted William Ross to help him with the score and adapt the HP1 score to the second film as instructed, so that Williams could focus on composing the new themes introduced such as the Chamber of Secrets theme, dobby, spiders, lockhart or most famously Fawkes the Phoenix. I would describe the sorcerers stone motif in the second film more of a general motif for "intrigues" and mystery. (currently writing my bachelor thesis about the continuity in the film music so I'm currently kind of in a rabbit hole, lol) :P
THANK YOU for arranging this! Voldemort's theme in the first two HP films is so underrated and I hardly ever see it get any love. While I do also enjoy Patrick Doyle's theme, nothing beats the dread that comes from listening to John Williams' "The Face of Voldemort."
It seems Universal was aware of that as well, because The Escape from Gringotts attraction incorporated Williams' Voldemort theme, which was cool because Ralph Fiennes got to reprise his role there.
To this day, I will never understand why they didn't use Voldemort's theme song by John Williams. This is like not using Darth Vader's imperial march theme. Like, were other composers afraid of a lawsuit?
At least Universal seemed to understand how iconic Williams' Harry Potter music was. All of their Wizarding World theme park attractions chose to use tracks from the first 3 movies, including Voldemort's theme in Escape from Gringotts.
Before typing this video up, I realized that I couldn't remember the villain themes for Harry Potter. I usually love villain themes from fantasy movies, so I always found this weird
Ce thème colle des frissons. Je pense que c'est mon préféré. Il a réussi a lui seul à donner du charme au personnage de Voldemort. Un charme qui s'est un peu perdu à partir de la coupe de feu.
Out of all the Harry Potter themes, this one is by far what I loved most. There are a few other themes that liked like: no argument about Hedwig’s Theme because that’s the one that started it all. But I liked Yule ball waltz theme by Patrick Doyle in the Goblet of Fire, Nicholas Hooper’s irrational Umbridge theme in Order of the Phoenix, Hagrid’s medieval theme in Prisoner of Azkaban, as well as A Window to the Past. I didn’t like how other composers created new themes for Voldemort because none of them matches to Williams’ menacing and ruthless approach that describes his character. I liked this theme more than any other theme, and I agree with some of the comments that this 3-note motif closely resembles the 3-note motif in Darth Sideous’ theme in Star Wars. That’s quite a comparison between the both villains in two different franchises.
At the time between Harry potter and star wars John Williams chose star wars, but I do wonder what kind of tracks the potter movies after prisoner of azkaban would have if John Williams chose Harry potter instead
"-You're the weak one, and you'll never know love or friendship.- Those words made the dark heart of Voldemort break. Many years ago, when he was a boy, he loved and was loved, like Harry loved and was loved by his friends. With those words, horrible and beautiful memories got back in his mind. Scent of cookies, cloves, sea, the sound of wind and waves. A castle on the sea. A boy who resembled him, dead in his arms. The only person the cruel and heartless Voldemort ever opened his heart and and the only person whom he had shed his tears. The only person he saw as a friend, a brother, not as a minion. The only person who really shared his ideas, not for fear but because he really believed those." (the incipit of a story I have in mind, with young Tom Riddle as the main character, describing a little period of light in his life; but both him and his "friend", an OC I created, although main characters, are not on the good side; they're both evil, but not so much; a darker shade of grey, let's say...)
Where exactly was this theme at 8:23 from? The kinda jazzy Voldermort theme. I know it was never in the movies, just wondering if it was a bonus track on an extended OST or something
The problem with the music in this saga has been the same problem as with the directors. Or more specifically one director, the one that would go on to direct most of the movies: David Yates. For the Order of Phoenix and Half Blood Prince he brought a guy called Nicholas Hopper. His soundtracks aren't bad, obviously, but they are also not particularly memorable. Patrick Doyle and Alexandre Desplat on the other hand did a very good job. Doyle specially created several extraordinary themes.
I have been looking for this for a while, how did you put this together? Is all of this from the official soundtracks or is some of it from unofficial sources? I love the heightened version of the theme when the memory of Tom Riddle is dissolving and could not find it on the official soundtrack. Thank you for making this!
You're right, there's an undeniable similarity. Elmer Bernstein seems to be credited with it, I took a look and both he and John Williams (the composer of Voldemort's themes) are associated with the Royal Philharmonic. I looked at Bernstein's Wikipedia page and John Williams is among the names mentioned among "those who consider Bernstein a legacy on their careers...". Whatever that means. So there's a definite connection between the two and it seems clear the piece you mentioned influenced Williams.
Certinho? Espero que esteja tudo certinho. Excelente noite para nós. Obrigado. Pesquisei por "Canção música Voldemort" e felizmente achei aqui. Canção ou música é excelente. A canção ou música tem um poder superior. Para cima e para frente nesta guerra poderosa. O Inferno existe. Os donos do Universo são satanistas malvados maçons e Iluminati. Estou no RJ e em outros lugares. Eu acredito sim no Universo espiritual. Tive que ver para crer. Eu sou testemunha e minha mãe também. É difícil crer mas existe sim de verdade na realidade. É excelente paranormal e lenda urbana. Ajudo você curtindo a rede social e visitando o endereço eletrônico na página. Já comprei produto para ajudar. Abraço. Tiau.
Everyone involved in those first two films really understood the assignment.
"There is no good and evil. There is only power and those too weak to seek it."
balderdash I say!
4:26 should have played when Voldemort got resurrected in goblet of fire, in my opinion
7:10 should be perfect
@@sugdolomar absolutely
@@sugdolomar for sure
@@sugdolomar YES! Exactly
Where can i find it this particuarly
7:12 that track never failed to give me chills as a child.
it still gives me them now
I have nothing but respect for Patrick Doyle and Alexandre Desplat. But i wish they kept this as Voldemort's theme. Is so perfect!
Yea they dropped the ball on this one..
Holy... Could you imagine Ralph Fiennes emerging from that cauldron set to 7:12?? I'd have shat myself as a kid.
Seriously wish more of John Williams' soundtrack made it into the other movies besides just Hedwig's Theme.
I think everyone just straight up forgot Harry even had a theme. People only remember Hedwig's Theme
@@Marcelo_DBZ_Music Which one is Harrys theme? This one? th-cam.com/video/yB-c85V8Zsg/w-d-xo.html
I agree. I know the other composers did their best, and maybe I just need to listen to their music more, but I feel that, with an occasional exception, none of the music from the later movies is as memorable or distinctive as when Williams did the scoring. It's almost as though, as the movies got darker, less whimsical, and less colorful, so did the music.
@@TheAbbeyoftheEveryman Harry didn't have a theme of his own. The theme most people associate with Harry is the family theme (Leaving Hogwarts)
@MaxtothePower actually harry did have a theme. You can hear it in this video at 17:22. I don't know if that's what you referred to as the "family theme" but it is most definitely Harry's theme.
What makes his musical tapestry so fierce and forboding is how it interludes in a variety of ways,
There's the "He Who Must Not Be Named Theme" that is the bouncier figure played on low horns @16:00 (it shows up when he is only spoken of)
The "Voldemort's Evil Deeds" which is a dark fanfare with horns trombones playing @16:12 (This one shows up less but is used more as a punctuating mark or climax for darker scenes)
The Full "Voldemort Theme" @16:34 is the all-encompassing theme of the villain
The "Sorcerer's Stone" theme 16:50 while less related to the villain personally does in fact work as a counterpoint, played along with the Voldemort theme
John Williams is a genius and such a storyteller of music
I wish this theme hadn't been lost after the second movie...
17:49 sounds great. Truly the best part of this masterpiece
Williams always crushes villains themes
16:11 Harry Potter we meet again
thats the one they should have kept through out the series. you can feel the threat voldemort is and that he has a connect with harry
Now This is Voldemort's theme
For me the only, true Voldemort Theme.
I have always said that the different composers and directors was the biggest mistake in the film series. I think that if john willimas and Colombus had done all, the overall result had been better.
Regarding Columbus I'm not so sure. The first two movies set the tone but, specially with The Chamber of Secrets, it suffers fron certain "blandness".
Not that David Yates was any better, mind you. In fact he was probably worse.
There's a bit of a merging of two themes here.
There's Voldemort's Theme
And then there's what I would call the Sorcerer's Stone Theme, since it always played when they see or talk about it or Nicholas Flamel in the first one. It's that 3-note chord progression designed to be mysterious and dramatic.
It's used side by side with Voldemort's Theme when he confronts him by the Mirror of Erised. Additionally, it's used in the 2nd one when they open the entrance to the Chamber of Secrets. So it's easy to see why the two would be lumped together.
I’d say the Sorcerer’s Stone theme was recontextualized in Chamber of Secrets as an “Immortality Theme” which is closely related to Voldemort.
On a first viewing, hearing the Sorcerer’s Stone leitmotif in the sequel could be brushed off as just a reuse of themes, but when Tom Riddle is revealed to be Voldemort, and associated with the theme, I think it’s appropriate to see it as a broader thematic piece than just relating it to the Stone.
Who knows what Williams could have done down the line.
Perhaps the Stone theme could evolve into the Horcrux theme.
Yes thats correct. Voldemorts Theme consists of two parts, one can be heard at 5:49 and the other one at 6:12. The Philosopher's Stone (or Sorcerer's Stone) motif (also called Three-Note-Motif) got reused in HP2. Because John Williams was totally busy at that time, he contacted William Ross to help him with the score and adapt the HP1 score to the second film as instructed, so that Williams could focus on composing the new themes introduced such as the Chamber of Secrets theme, dobby, spiders, lockhart or most famously Fawkes the Phoenix.
I would describe the sorcerers stone motif in the second film more of a general motif for "intrigues" and mystery.
(currently writing my bachelor thesis about the continuity in the film music so I'm currently kind of in a rabbit hole, lol) :P
THANK YOU for arranging this! Voldemort's theme in the first two HP films is so underrated and I hardly ever see it get any love. While I do also enjoy Patrick Doyle's theme, nothing beats the dread that comes from listening to John Williams' "The Face of Voldemort."
You're welcome!!!
John Williams is a amazing composer!!!
It seems Universal was aware of that as well, because The Escape from Gringotts attraction incorporated Williams' Voldemort theme, which was cool because Ralph Fiennes got to reprise his role there.
@@TheItachiIshtar YES and that is such a cool part of that ride!!!
To this day, I will never understand why they didn't use Voldemort's theme song by John Williams. This is like not using Darth Vader's imperial march theme. Like, were other composers afraid of a lawsuit?
At least Universal seemed to understand how iconic Williams' Harry Potter music was. All of their Wizarding World theme park attractions chose to use tracks from the first 3 movies, including Voldemort's theme in Escape from Gringotts.
@@TheItachiIshtar I'm glad they utilized those themes more.
This is pure gold
14:42
T-O-M
M-A-R-V-O-L-O
R-I-D-D-L-E
I AM LORD VOLDEMORT
@@Escara1 You?
@@stevenreid2223
No, i'm the low cost cousin.😁
@@Escara1 Rom Tiddle?
@@stevenreid2223
Noone other less.
I even decided to create a horcrux...but in the end i killed a salmon and create a Hosomaki.🍣
7:11 should have played when Voldemort got resurrected.
I agreed!!!
14:58 would’ve been really great too!
Before typing this video up, I realized that I couldn't remember the villain themes for Harry Potter. I usually love villain themes from fantasy movies, so I always found this weird
Lucius Malfoy in Chamber of Secrets had the same musical theme as Count Dooku / the Confederacy of Independent Systems in Star Wars Episode II
"...when its brother *gave you that scar*."
"And who owned that wand?"
"We do not speak his name."
That motif is pure power.
Ce thème colle des frissons. Je pense que c'est mon préféré. Il a réussi a lui seul à donner du charme au personnage de Voldemort. Un charme qui s'est un peu perdu à partir de la coupe de feu.
Out of all the Harry Potter themes, this one is by far what I loved most. There are a few other themes that liked like: no argument about Hedwig’s Theme because that’s the one that started it all. But I liked Yule ball waltz theme by Patrick Doyle in the Goblet of Fire, Nicholas Hooper’s irrational Umbridge theme in Order of the Phoenix, Hagrid’s medieval theme in Prisoner of Azkaban, as well as A Window to the Past. I didn’t like how other composers created new themes for Voldemort because none of them matches to Williams’ menacing and ruthless approach that describes his character. I liked this theme more than any other theme, and I agree with some of the comments that this 3-note motif closely resembles the 3-note motif in Darth Sideous’ theme in Star Wars. That’s quite a comparison between the both villains in two different franchises.
Why is this so terrifying....
A root tone, the minor third, then the major seventh. Over and over and over
The fact that they didn't keep this theme for the rest of the movies is just pure blasphemy, imo.
Bits of this theme kinda sound like Emperor Palpatine as he tries to kill Luke in the throne room
I think it's because both use the devil's interval.
At the time between Harry potter and star wars John Williams chose star wars, but I do wonder what kind of tracks the potter movies after prisoner of azkaban would have if John Williams chose Harry potter instead
Adava kedvara ,crusio, mind games, petrificus totalus, confringo, Expelliarmus, Pictrusmpra deadly spells 😈
4:05-5:11
"-You're the weak one, and you'll never know love or friendship.-
Those words made the dark heart of Voldemort break.
Many years ago, when he was a boy, he loved and was loved, like Harry loved and was loved by his friends.
With those words, horrible and beautiful memories got back in his mind. Scent of cookies, cloves, sea, the sound of wind and waves. A castle on the sea. A boy who resembled him, dead in his arms. The only person the cruel and heartless Voldemort ever opened his heart and and the only person whom he had shed his tears. The only person he saw as a friend, a brother, not as a minion. The only person who really shared his ideas, not for fear but because he really believed those."
(the incipit of a story I have in mind, with young Tom Riddle as the main character, describing a little period of light in his life; but both him and his "friend", an OC I created, although main characters, are not on the good side; they're both evil, but not so much; a darker shade of grey, let's say...)
He was also conceived with a love potion
And when that happens the child isn’t able to feel or experience love.
Wtf is that? There is no one for Voldemort.
@@Pattmore not even if... the "friend" is a descendant of merpeople?
Very Nostalgic
It Reminded me of Darth Sidious’s theme
The replacement bully
Where exactly was this theme at 8:23 from? The kinda jazzy Voldermort theme. I know it was never in the movies, just wondering if it was a bonus track on an extended OST or something
th-cam.com/video/KJv-EMFxB0I/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Syomix
It‘s either from the 1st or 2nd movie
6:12 Home alone??
The problem with the music in this saga has been the same problem as with the directors. Or more specifically one director, the one that would go on to direct most of the movies: David Yates.
For the Order of Phoenix and Half Blood Prince he brought a guy called Nicholas Hopper. His soundtracks aren't bad, obviously, but they are also not particularly memorable.
Patrick Doyle and Alexandre Desplat on the other hand did a very good job. Doyle specially created several extraordinary themes.
AVADA KEDAVRA!!!!
What is that bassoon part???!? So good
th-cam.com/video/KJv-EMFxB0I/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Syomix
omg I love this
When John Williams left, the movies became trash.
His music is always playing in my head when I read the books though.
I think there is also a bit of "forbidden forest" one.
Hagirdddddddd!!!!!!!!!!
The good and thé evil doesn t existe there only power and people to weak to seek it
I have been looking for this for a while, how did you put this together? Is all of this from the official soundtracks or is some of it from unofficial sources? I love the heightened version of the theme when the memory of Tom Riddle is dissolving and could not find it on the official soundtrack. Thank you for making this!
3:44
Est ce que quelqu'un aurait aussi remarqué que ça a carrément l'air d'être la musique qu'on retrouve dans Métal Hurlant le film de 1981 ?
I've never seen it, I'm going to watch and report back.
You're right, there's an undeniable similarity. Elmer Bernstein seems to be credited with it, I took a look and both he and John Williams (the composer of Voldemort's themes) are associated with the Royal Philharmonic.
I looked at Bernstein's Wikipedia page and John Williams is among the names mentioned among "those who consider Bernstein a legacy on their careers...". Whatever that means.
So there's a definite connection between the two and it seems clear the piece you mentioned influenced Williams.
EU TENHO ELE.
He was right
14:42
Buen , canal ,💞
To voldemort
16:11
Est-ce que Voldemort est plus fou qu'Ekrizdis?
Certinho? Espero que esteja tudo certinho. Excelente noite para nós.
Certinho? Espero que esteja tudo certinho. Excelente noite para nós. Obrigado. Pesquisei por "Canção música Voldemort" e felizmente achei aqui. Canção ou música é excelente. A canção ou música tem um poder superior. Para cima e para frente nesta guerra poderosa. O Inferno existe. Os donos do Universo são satanistas malvados maçons e Iluminati. Estou no RJ e em outros lugares. Eu acredito sim no Universo espiritual. Tive que ver para crer. Eu sou testemunha e minha mãe também. É difícil crer mas existe sim de verdade na realidade. É excelente paranormal e lenda urbana. Ajudo você curtindo a rede social e visitando o endereço eletrônico na página. Já comprei produto para ajudar. Abraço. Tiau.
Holy shit I was right he on god stole this from blade
Which track?
@@kitgusto2390 idk the one playing here:
th-cam.com/video/OuG6mvMT_1c/w-d-xo.html