Colin Montgomerie & Bernhard Langer Clash Over Style of Play | 2016 Senior PGA Championship
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- Colin Montgomerie and Bernhard Langer have a long history of competing against each other in professional golf. However, their respective styles of play don't necessarily match, as noted by NBC.
Be READY when it's your turn to play, simple!
“Deliberate” - just call it slow lol; put him on the clock
I would have thought deliberate to mean when it's his turn he's ready and gets things done, but apparently it means he farts around way to much.
Langer is so slow when he runs his hair blows forward
And since you are not respecting the rule, you are cheating while playing slow
Langer is a cheater. It s fordidden to take more than 40s to play a shot
That’s pretty good, Chuck :-)
An absurd statement, "you know what to expect when playing with Bernhard." So that means it doesn't totally suck to have to wait an absurd amount of time between every shot?
No, it still sucks but to sigh every 6 seconds and mope around making yourself more upset doesn't change the situation one bit.
@@chucknorris5141 I believe they played several days with each other. That crap gets old after about three holes let alone days.
Gary Koke is a loser
@@gdobservation Yep. One of my best friends is a slow player. I cringe when he takes full practice swings twice before hitting his real shot. He also talks when its his turn to hit.
Exactly. My best friend is a slow player. I love him. But when we go on our 4 round boys only golf trip every year, I know what to expect but still want to stick my 7 iron in his face after 2 holes on the first round
I always found Monte's emotional frankness refreshing. Wish he'd won one of those majors
I didn't care much for him years ago but he has grown on me. Phil takes the most shit for the 2006 U.S. Open, and he should, but Monty definitely folded too. Middle of the fairway and makes a double on the last hole.
@@SocialAssasin that really was brutal
I’m a competitive golfer and I can tell you for a fact that if you get paired w someone who’s slow as shit, it will def affect your game.
And that's why they do it lol
I had 2 friends & colleagues one who was very slow in conducting an exhaustive survey on every green. The other brough a little stool and a book out with him!
Only if you haven't trained your mind.
@@It__From__Bit doesn’t matter if you’ve trained your mind or not. They surveyed top pGA tour pros and slow play amongst other golfers was their number one complaint.
Even if you have trained your mind, slow play will take you out of your flow state
@@swisstrader It's because only a tiny fraction of people in the "west" even understand the concept of training you mind. Probably the best example I've seen of a golfer with a trained mind it Patrick Cantlay. He says he goes into a kind of zone at the beginning of each round and doesn't come out of it until the end of the round. I don't know if this is something he has trained himself to do via meditation or he naturally has this kind of "tune-out switch" in his mind that allows him to block everything out but the task at hand.
Remember his round with Bryson Dechambeau? He didn't care in the slightest that Bryson "snapped" at him because he was walking during Bryson's shot., although it seemed to get most everyone else all riled up. And they weren't even the ones being "yelled" at. And Bryson is a notoriously slow player. But if you watched Patrick on the greens while Bryson was taking a long time to line up each putt during the whole round, you could tell that it didn't disrupt his "zone" in the slighted. He just stood there in a kind of meditative state, patiently waiting until it was his turn to putt. Now that's a trained mind, which is a massive advantage in a sport like golf. Having a trained mind allows the player to remain focused on their task without letting ANYTHING on the outside disrupt that focus. Cheers.
It's hard to argue with Langer's success but come on dude ,hit the shot
Langer and Bryson should play a round and find out who loses patience first! That would be awesome to see. PGA please make this happen
Bryson. Roid rage would kick in
Why not make it a foursome? Add Faldo and J.B. Holmes.
Come on Bernhard pick up the pace 😂
I can feel Monty's pain from here...
Not as painful as when he bottled winning majors at proper level & not seniors.
He's got some Parcells in that attitude lol
Saw Langer at Wentworth years ago and it was painful. He is not concerned about the effect he has on others and that's selfish.
Agree, very selfish.
Golf is a selfish game. You're out there to win on your own apart from maybe the ryder cup or presidents cup. Monty would be telling him to take all the time in the world if it was the ryder cup sure. Monty has always been selfish aswel sure and I've heard stories about him ignoring fans
oh please. you saw ONLY one round for the GOAT Senior Player.
A bet a swift kick to the balls would give Langer a new perspective on the matter.
Bob Thur g.o.a.t? You cannot be serious!
I've heard they are instituting a shot clock in a Euro event. That would be a great idea for all tournaments! My club tournaments they have a 2:10 rule for front 9 (unless you are within 10 minutes of group in front) over that +2 strokes. Over 4:30 for 18 total, + 2 more. That changed the pace of play 180 degrees for us.
"CLASH?????" - Nothin like click bait!
A few years back Monty's playing partner pulled out of a tournament so he went out first alone and completed the round in around 90 mins. No wonder this grates on him so much.
I've heard that in Scotland if you are out on the course for more than 3 1/2 hours they come and escort you off.
@@Yoohoo2949 That's not true at all lol
Give him a break. His parents met while working at the DMV.
Im with you Monte, nothing worse than a super slow player, especially at that level.
Langer doesnt cheat? Doesnt he anchor his putter? Monty should just putt out every hole and walk off to the next tee. If the fairway is clear just tee off and dont wait for Langer.
No. I think if he did the authorities would be onto him. There is a gap between the top of the putter handle and his chest; you just can't see it.
Ah but then that would be disrespectful😋😂😂
@JusticeAA No, it wouldn't. That rule only exists in match play. He can play his ball any time he chooses.
"Very Deliberate". SLOW Jim, say it. SLOW.
Jim? It's Dan Hicks, not Jim Nantz :D
It took Spieth over 25 minutes to play 1 hole when he won the Open Championship. The officials refuse to penalize the players so they end up penalizing the fans.
@dnnyshdy He wasn't just getting a ruling. He was angling where to drop for several minutes and freezing out his playing partner who was very much in it still.
@dnnyshdy He's always looking for a ruling and debating officials. And whining and yelling at his ball. Was a fan but the entitled attitude and slow angling on so many rulings was too much. The world turns, it's no big deal.
In 2024 at 67 he still hits it great
As was mentioned on commentary, they'd already been paired up plenty of times on the senior circuit, then there's the two decades they played together on the European Tour, you'd think Monty would be familiar enough with Bernhard by now.
I can sympathize with Colin even though I like Bernhard. Slow play is a big problem at all levels of golf.
Monty, when you amass the kind of record Bernhard has, then you can complain, until then, pay attention and learn.
eagle boy You know what I like about looking at a golf videos comment section.
It would be that everyone has a universal respect
for either the golfers themselves or the individuals who are commenting, its kind of like the game of golf itself, most have level of maturity and respect that you don't typically see in a lot of the other comment sections,
So while you may not care for Berhards pace of play, to "Not give a shit about what he has won" shows a level of immaturity and a mindset that in my opinion doesn't belong in the game of golf.
widndn I disagree with your comment, 1) he has an entitlement to any opinion and 2) slow play has caused numerous non professionals to quit a game they enjoy
@@_1ben good - fewer players = faster rounds and cheaper ttimes. You wanna stay at home with the mrs, be my guest.
I'm with you Monty, slow players can ruin a round of golf.
Golf has two distinct types of players, cautious ones and dynamic ones. You can't change a cautious player, they will think and stress over a shot more than a dynamic player. My comment was 80% aimed at club players, would be nice to see more haste at tour level though.
KingSadim ... a halfway agree. But, definitely some freedom to make sure every shot is the best. Don't forget, Langer is one of the best in the world, even in his younger days.... Montgomery has always been known for his speedier tempo. But there ARE other players who take forever, and still screw up the shot. For me being a weekend warrior, if I don't have the shot in my head in 30 seconds, I never will... so I just enjoy the errant shot. And I always try gentlemanly actions on the course, so if my group is slower, then we stop and let others play thru. But then, in suck so bad... gentlemanly is all I've got.
True,but when the same players go around in a social round with friends in 3 and a half hours and shoot 65 it makes you wonder why they take so long in a competitive environment.
Michael Reynolds n
They do every day
That was brutal.....Monty went off on the guy! Incredible to see indeed!!!
You know what to expect but it doesn't help you cope with the waiting. And waiting.
Monty is the perfect example of a grumpy old fart
I thought he was quite restrained. Langer is killing the game softly... and slowly. You'd think he knows how to play by now. I'd have wrapped his 7 iron around his neck by the end.
@@wodenoftheangles3339 everyone has a plan, until they get a few chiclets knocked out.
Slow play is destroying the game. Don't care what he's won. He's a horrible example.
And since you are not respecting the rule, you are cheating while playing slow
@David with you 100%, my friend. What’s the rush, to get home to be nagged by the Mrs?
Lucky for us we were in front of a 10 ball in Thailand yesterday !!!!!
Monty would go crazy on a muni.
Our daily men’s game, usually 12-20 players, plays in 3-1/2 hours every day and if you are habitually slow you are relegated to the last group. There’s no reason a round of golf should take more than 4 hours and pros should have a shot clock with maybe an exception/timeout for 2-3 shots per round.
slow golf ruins golf. go home and cook a half a hog and dilly dally
How many 10’s of thousands are you playing for, and if so do you have room for another?
They had built a new golf course north of town and the course decided in order to speed up play they placed round school room clocks at every tee box that were at 15 minute intervals. set at your tee time. This would make it a 4 1/2 hour round. So every time you were at a tee box it should be the same tee time. Well it was all good for a few weeks until the slow players or vandals smashed those clocks or threw them in the ponds.
Goodness, we mustn’t have a fellow cross his arms for goodness sake...
We can't have a man like that at Bushwood
I was at Wentworth PGA years ago, play was backing up on the 9th after Westwood played 2 provisionals hooking 3 times to the railway line. Darren Clark chilled out on the tee lighting up a cigar and Monty was making his feelings clear about the slow play ahead so Clarke wound him up by moving so the breeze was blowing the smoke right across Monty's face. Crowd was laughing but Monty just sulked as usual
Monty always comes across like an impatient old crabby fart. Never seems to smile. Its just his personality. His impatience probably cost him a couple majors in his career cause he doesn't have many or any for that matter, I believe. Obviously Langer is slow, I get that but that's his style.
Except that never happened, both Montgomerie and Clarke said as much
It's real simple, if you fall behind the group in front of u by a hole official should put you on the clock if you don't catch up or fall further behind it's a penalty to the slow player
I love it.
Langer is an analytical golfer, almost never shows emotion on the course. Nicklaus was like that in his early years. He could actually stand over a putt for 45 seconds before drawing the putter back. Very cerebral player, absolutely never rushed any shot his entire career, even in a practice round, amazing. I remember Johnny Miller being amazed playing with Jack in a practice round before the 1966 US Open at Olympic that his pre shot routine. was the same as it was in competition.
What Jack did do though was to walk fast between shots which helped cut down, to some degree, his overall time between shots. But when he got settled in over a shot his mind was able to block out everything. His level of concentration was greater than anyone who ever played the game, before or since, according to Arnold Palmer.
Slow play is just another form of cheating in golf.
No reason why there cannot be a time rule for shots, especially putts. Ready golf; people who don't know what it is should find out, and do it.
Monty will have to wait. Langer has two Masters wins. Monty has never won on the PGA Tour.
What’s that got to do with anything?
What is the time limit on a shot? Golf is generally slow anyways, I imagine it's quite a lot of time.
Monty could do situps while he waits !!!
repete09able, looks like he eats biscuits instead!
That tub of lard couldn't do a sit up
They should be on a timer, like a shot clock. 5 minutes maximum per shot once they've reached where their ball lies.
more of this
Need to make it an issue for the player to start fixing it...right? Sergio and Kevin Na are two ppl who got heckled so much for playing slow and waggles, etc they actually fixed it. Bryson...I'm not sure but haven't seen as many complaints about him lately.
Really love Langer as a player and a person, but yeah...this would get old. I've been in plenty of competition with guys who do it, and it just drives you nuts if you let it.
...and there’s the rub.
Anytime you want to check Langers resume, go ahead
40 seconds clock on EVERY shot ... they are trialing this at the Austrian open this year...hopefully it becomes mandatorty on european and pga tours soon.
Who has the most majors?? I'll do what he does thanks.
Keopka and DJ play fast. They've done OK. No excuse for slow play.
U gotta luv Monty
You know what to expect when you play with Langer? It's not like Monty called up Langer and asked him to play. He wouldn't. They were paired together.
Why wasn't Langer put on the clock? I never liked the rule of putting the group on the clock because one guy can slow down a group with three fast players. When a slow player in a group is being watched, he will noticeably pick up the pace. When a fast player is being observed, and during a moment of indecision (ie the wind changes). The faster player will be hit with a slow play penalty. This happen to Morgan Pressel, when she was in a match play tournament against Munoz.
dttruman players should be forced to check in and check out of a hole on the tour, in the same way we clock in and out of work.
The results should be used to develop a sensible adjustment to the rules
Despite being taller and 100lbs heavier than Langer, Monty can’t even come close to Langer’s record.
Monty was still the better golfer, majors are overrated, Monty was unlucky
@@icowar Not even close on any level. Langer has six more European tour victories plus a PGA event which Monty never won. Langer was a world number 1. Langer is the greatest senior golfer in history. Monty has ten top tens in majors. Langer has 19. Langer has 37 top 25s in majors. Monty has 21. Langer didn't just win two majors. He contended more often in majors as well as the Players Championship.
gotta love monty
Seriously, a player should be warned and then assessed penalty strokes for playing that slow....
Show me a Marshal or tour director that has the balls to Fine these slow perps.
I don't like slow players either but obviously for Langer works. Compare their accomplishments
For 'very deliberate' read 'very slow'
They are friends do
Monty was always a cranky old bollix. And Bernard has Jesus Christ on his bag.
Lol... I recall Langer quoting scripture after one of his wins years ago.
Can we play while we are young?
Somebody doesn't like Monty to pair them off everyday..
Bernhard's been kicking Colin's ass for 30 years.
Except Langer is a tedious slow coach, I'd rather watch paint dry
One day I witnessed a group at my local course, that all 4 of them were slow and deliberate on the greens. Never saw anything like it, before, or since then. Literally 10-20 minutes on each green, plum bobbing, looking from all angles multiple times, marking, remarking.....they all acted on each putt like it was a putt to win the Masters. It took them like 4 hours for 9 holes.
They had all just read a book on golf.
Our group of four were waiting ton the 1st tee to hit our tee shots and it literally took 20 minutes after our tee time was called. I called the pro on my phone to complain, he comes out on our approach shots and we stood there for a good 15 more minutes. She said, just tee off on 10 and I'll have a talk with them.
Was once in between a fast group and a slow group and it was one of the funniest things I’ve seen on a golf course, albeit not conducive to a relaxing round. We let the fast group play through while we were waiting for the group ahead AGAIN and the fast group hit their drives straight into them. One of the slow guys shouted at them and one of the guys in the fast group shouted “GET THE F$&@ OF THE FAIRWAY!!!” and there was an altercation. Terrible behaviour all round but very funny nonetheless.
Every golf game has a rhythm of it's own, you have to find the rhythm and fit in. Monte in this case needs to slow his play down, take his time and enjoy his round. I like Monte, and hate slow play, but getting upset about it will not help his game.
I believe we are slow when we just don't see the shot. Slow brain processing of the outcome... then after all that, we still don't know until we HIT THE SHOT, ALREADY....😳🙄...😁
montgomery is a goof............
I'm not sure I could cope playing Langer for four rounds.
Just hit the damn thing 😂😂
Colin should've turned up holding a 4 feet wide clock
In the world of golf, Langer is a badass. Monty can complain all he wants but he's nowhere near the legacy of Bernhard Langer.
Yeah they might be aware of each other’s idiosyncrasies and exhibit some tolerance for one another but why does the PGA tour put them together are they the only two playing
And Montgomery is known for being an angry man...
Monty shouldn't complain. The play was slow enough that he could have consumed a couple more meals between putts.
Funny the majority of the people that are accused of slow play lead the fields in all aspects of scoring. For example in this case, Langer lead the field in greens hit and strokes gained putting. Colin...53rd greens hit....71st strokes gained putting. People only complain about slow play when they are playing bad and a group member is playing good. It's an ego thing.
I’m with you Monty. Please penalize slow play.
I'd be eating egg salad sandwiches and pickles at the golf cart.
Mrs Doubtfire.
Fairplay to bernard langer for keeping his composure while monty is sulking like a 5 year
Langer would not last 5 minutes on a golf course with a course Marshall,they would be telling him
To speed up or let the groups behind through ,I believe he knows it frustrates other professionals
And he uses it to his advantage
Breathe Monty...just breathe!
"Maybe if you were a bit more deliberate Monty you would have won a major."
Slow play is a curse. Pga tour are finally addressing it
Competitive golf needs a shot clock and weekend golf need a hurling club 😁.
Monty a bit of a clown to be fair!
no round of golf should take more than 3 hours
I bet Bernhard knew exactly that Monty was steaming, and dragged it out some more.😂🤣🤣
Why do they pair them together?
For the entertainment value?
Monty is disappointed his career doesn't come close to Langer's.
He does it because he knows Monty goes nuts, and it affects Monty's game.....it's called beating your opponent with psychology.
Bernie probably saw this video and then decided to really drag it out lol
...make practice putt swings illegal like swings in a bunker
but swings in a bunker aren't illegal...only hitting the sand while taking swings is illegal...soooooo....
Not a bad idea
Slow play sucks no matter the player..... BUT, Monty has always been a bit of a c_ _ _ , too. So, I call it square.
Monty with Zero majors and Langer? Game over
I stop Watching Langer because I fall asleep with his endless routine . A pity because a nice guy I heard.
match Langer with J B Holmes..they would still be out there when the night mowers start up
@Benito Bueno Throw in DeChamdouche and the 3 of them wouldn’t finish before the next round started.
I hate slow play if you can't get on with it then move out the way
maybe colin should start taking a little longer over his shots, where was he in 2016 masters langer was still competitive with a chance to win!!!! check out monty's topped shot lol
It's funny how accurate the final words of this video are, but the PGA or Senior PGA won't take any action against Langer. The European Tour is cracking down on the slow players, why can't they do it here!
Hugely irritating. They used to play together in the fourballs in the Ryder Cup. Bernard's anaesthetic speed of play was probably a weapon bsck then. "Call it a half, Bernard, it's getting dark and we still have the afternoon fourballs to play..."
I blame the PGA. It is unfair to playing partners and those playing behind them and yet the PGA does NOTHING. And they wonder why participation is down??
Gary Koch commenting that Monty should know what to expect when playing with Langer. It's as if it's Monty's fault and he should just learn to deal with it, rather than expect Langer to pick up the pace. I HATE slow play, both watching and playing.