Type in 'onboard Schumacher 1993' on TH-cam, and there's short videos with ford telemetry. It shows just how quick this benetton was, but also just how accurate this game is!!! The Canada video also shows schumacher pressing a button to activate his 'DRS' suspension for increased speed. Great video GP laps, great 2hrs of content, thank you .
That was fun to watch and brought back some fond memories. I would love to see you recreate Senna's final GP win in Adelaide, if you don't stream an entire '93 season.
Just brilliant content every single time. It’s been years since Jimmy mentioned you in a random stream and I tuned in but I’m so glad I did. Everyone rightly loves Jimmy and Super GT, but for the older gentleman your stuff is brilliant - I won’t miss yours, Daniel Morads, or Dave Cams content - Keep it coming mate and thank you. 🙏🏼
By now, GPLaps has become my favourite sim racing channel on TH-cam. Please just continue what you do. I would also like to see a little more online racing here.
This was Mika Hakkinen's first race with McLaren -- which he ends up binning it on the straight. Berger with a bizarre pit exit crash almost taking out Wendlinger -- blamed on his automatic suspension. That's what I rem about Estoril '93.
Yes! 71 laps is the proper way to race. And talking about full races, time is near we'll have Le Mans in AMS2 with multiclass races. Two or three hours long races will be a blast for sure.
You should do a full 93 season in the second McLaren. Beat Senna in the same car. Be the American talent that Ron Dennis was looking for in Michael Andretti.
Sadly missed the livestream, but that looked a blast. Excellent content as ever. Maybe one of Richie Axelson's relatives was an F1 driver in the 90s....
I remember this race quite well...i was there in my early seventeen years old! I also watched live in 86 and 96. In 93 Alesi took thd lead in Villeneuve style with Ayrton behind. I'm sure the Brazilian would win the race if it wasn't for the engine trouble. Great entertainment. BTW, Cascais is a town nearby...
If they can fix the amount of corner cutting and for no reason going off track and bringing tonnes of mud on to the track the ai do each race, along with ai actively blocking / covering off the inside line and apex it would be near perfect. Race kyalami modern and Suzuka, it’s so irritating that after three Laps with 30 ai cars, they turn those circuits in to RX tracks and ruins the whole experience. I wish we could turn mud on track off.
Search Big Zeddie on youtube, he's got a terrific collection of vintage f1 races. Sometimes full races, sometimes just longer highlights. Well worth following.
2 awesome ways: #1 is TH-cam season reviews, they got some in 50fps "HD"! But, the coverage of each race can be quite short and skips over lots of things, even big details or background knowledge. (These season reviews basically do race recaps, or summaries and don't go too deep). #2 The actual F1 app, its 10 bucks a month, but 100% worth it to binge watch all the seasons in a month(actually there is so much content it would take a few months to watch it all). The F1 app has literally every season from 1970-2023. Including the "in reviews" (Murray Walker or others review the races/season in hindsight with all the backstory) and also the "highlights" videos showing all the highlights of the race (and these video's seem to be made right after the race instead of at the seasons end "in review" if that makes sense). And then the F1 app also has the full race broadcasts too. So I recommend the F1 app, and maybe some TH-cam documentarys or season reviews for certain seasons, because only some of the TH-cam video ones go in as much detail as the official F1 stuff.
It was to do with costs. I am sure Ferrari would have easily got active suspension sorted as they had the money. It was the lower teams that’s just couldn’t compete. Ferrari haven’t won a Championship since 2007 so that argument is void
@@ELUSIVEJIM The current power units were supposed to be four cylinder hybrid Ferrari is the one that demanded they were V6... Ferrari has also had veto power that no other team has ever had... So not void
The costs of running an F1 team were spiralling + the financial crashes of the mid 90s + CART was increasing in popularity significantly + most people dont like it when the car plays a bigger role than driver in F1
@@R9naldo definitely agree it's never just one thing... Actually agreeing doesn't matter those are all facts to buy point remember Ferrari was testing a cart car at the time also probably just a bluff but still a good one!
Great race, thank's for choosing Estoril, not an usual choice of track to show. 93 was the las time with this fantastic layout, after all the deaths of 94 the FIA emforced a lot of security changes and just killed this track. Still always a pleasure to watch and another fantastic win. Congrats from Portugal!
It was called the Drag Reduction System back then, too. So in reality the modern DRS is more accurately called a HAADRS. (Homologated Active Aerodynamic Drag Reduction System).
i did belgium spa 2020 in a williams @100\high and the dirty air was awful. Also u can tweak tc and gearbox. up auto and down manual is ok. Full auto is bad because about downshifts .
Hey, great video. I wonder what type of wheel you are using, I did read in the info that you using Fanatec stuff, but when I looked at Fanatecs website, I could not find any wheel that looks like yours. What model name does your wheel have?
What wheel are you using? I'm having a difficult time trying to find a smaller diameter round wheel that fits the Podium hub that doesn't break the bank.
I did some 50 minutes + 1lap races yesterday mandatory pit stop for tyres and fuel. I noticed the AI are not affected by how much fuel they carry, they set the same lap times over and over. Where as the player with a full tank you lose seconds per lap at Daytona in the DPI. I’ve had to turn fuel useage OFF for the playing field to be level.
Great video ! May i ask you if you know how to simulate a real historical starting grid in ams2 (in case you don´t want to make the qualification). I tried , but i probably missed something (or it is a very bad point for ams2 as an historical simracing platform)
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Turned a few laps last night and just snuck into the 15s. DRS with the suspension only netted me an extra 4kph down the front straight, every little helps I guess!
Finally caught up with this, utterly fun to follow and look forward trying some AMS2 again myself after really diving into a season of iRacing. I'll no doubt be trying some of the COPA classic stuff as racing those old bangers has always been such fun in AMS2
Regarding the layout, it's pretty much the same now, the only major change is on the Sector 3, where there is now a chicane before the last big right corner. Currently, that layout is still used on some press events, since it is easier on the car brakes
He does the DRS explanation here: 8:38 and basically the 90s DRS was different, it did not move the rear wing, but instead adjusted the suspension and raised or lowered the car to reduce drag and make them go much much faster on the straights. I forgot about it sinfe its been awhile, but I vividly remeber watching videos & learning about these early 90s F1 cars just flying down the straight with crazy sparks because of their DRS systems. So I recommend watching some youtube videos of the real cars using the DRS in real life, it was pretty cool. You could literally see the cars suspension adjusting as they went to fly down the straight.
Thats like, the easiest time to oversteer a F1 car, of basically any year in any sim. I almost exclusively drive F1 cars on Asseto Corsa, Rfactor 2, AMS 1 & 2 and use a direct drive wheel - and I've personally found that most the F1 cars from the 90s onward (and honestly, all eras of F1 to varying degrees) can be "slid" or use the pedal to rotate the car on those slow medium speed corners. If you try to do anything like that at highspeed though: then youll either catch it very quickly or crash it very quickly. I really don't think it is that unrealistic, he is using a Benetton, and this track Estoril has the perfect type of elevations and banking on the track combined with the type of turns that can cause you to to easily spin or lose traction if your not careful. Thats why this track is so fun. I spent tons of hours ripping around Asseto Corsa with the 1991 cars on this Estoril track (1988 version) and thats just how this track is, the elevation changes, banking, and turns themselves basically make it so you feel like you can/want to slide the cars around a bit and use the throttle to rotate around the corners more than normal. And the banking + elevation changes in combination with the turns allow you to do things with the car you normally could not do as easily. Also you have to remeber these cars have driving aids, like traction control - and guess what cars are notorious for slides and controlled oversteer? The 2001-2008 cars, schumacher era. Just watch videos from back then, the grooved tires + traction control enabled the drivers to kind of "power slide" the cars around certain parts of corners when normally it would be do risky to do.
@@nicklibby3784traction control was literally created to help stop power sliding amongst the other obvious traction related..lmao because when you are sliding you don’t have traction ya know 😂
@@RonniePeterson Reiza haven't driven any either. There is next to no data for these cars (CL, CD alone. Suspensions? None.) we basically have to use critical thinking to assume how they should feel. AMS2 does a pretty good job. Its just that the tyres in AMS2 are too 'flexy' and not 'static' enough
Was this shifting method with auto-Up and manual down selectable in the new update? Or are you doing an override? I get OCD on having accurate shifting in sims and am curious how this works.ha Other than that, we need some Group C love!
Why would u want low aggression.back in 90s didn't have the blue flags shit got today it wad up to.u to get bye hence your skill that's why senna WAZ so good
lol they absolutely had blue flags in the 90s. They were actually becoming increasingly more common through the 70s and 80s, although obeying them back then was merely a matter of sportsmanship rather than a hard rule. You've probably seen clips of James Hunt complaining about drivers ignoring blue flags, like in Monaco '89 when Senna got bottled up behind Rene Arnoux. By the 90s you could be penalized for not yielding after a few corners. It's definitely more strict today than back then.
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I’m not sure I’ve ever watched a 2+ hour sim racing video before….great stuff Jake, wouldn’t mind seeing a few more of these races or a season.
Hope they keep nailing down on the vintage formulas and really hone in the AI because this definitely seems like a step in the right direction
Type in 'onboard Schumacher 1993' on TH-cam, and there's short videos with ford telemetry. It shows just how quick this benetton was, but also just how accurate this game is!!! The Canada video also shows schumacher pressing a button to activate his 'DRS' suspension for increased speed. Great video GP laps, great 2hrs of content, thank you .
71 laps full distance! Nice! That's the way you should race. Well done!
That was fun to watch and brought back some fond memories. I would love to see you recreate Senna's final GP win in Adelaide, if you don't stream an entire '93 season.
Just brilliant content every single time. It’s been years since Jimmy mentioned you in a random stream and I tuned in but I’m so glad I did.
Everyone rightly loves Jimmy and Super GT, but for the older gentleman your stuff is brilliant - I won’t miss yours, Daniel Morads, or Dave Cams content - Keep it coming mate and thank you. 🙏🏼
By now, GPLaps has become my favourite sim racing channel on TH-cam. Please just continue what you do. I would also like to see a little more online racing here.
This was Mika Hakkinen's first race with McLaren -- which he ends up binning it on the straight.
Berger with a bizarre pit exit crash almost taking out Wendlinger -- blamed on his automatic suspension. That's what I rem about Estoril '93.
PLEASEE do another 1993 race season but with Senna!!
Yes! 71 laps is the proper way to race. And talking about full races, time is near we'll have Le Mans in AMS2 with multiclass races. Two or three hours long races will be a blast for sure.
Not your first time streaming. You streamed the oval content when that came out cause I took part in some of your open lobbies for that.
I'm currently watching this - and more crucially enjoying it more! - instead of the 2023 F1 finale at Abu Dhabi!
You should do a full 93 season in the second McLaren. Beat Senna in the same car. Be the American talent that Ron Dennis was looking for in Michael Andretti.
You can really tell how much fun you're having with this game recently.
Gotta love to see it haha
Why is Rubens the only real driver name
Sadly missed the livestream, but that looked a blast. Excellent content as ever. Maybe one of Richie Axelson's relatives was an F1 driver in the 90s....
I remember this race quite well...i was there in my early seventeen years old! I also watched live in 86 and 96. In 93 Alesi took thd lead in Villeneuve style with Ayrton behind. I'm sure the Brazilian would win the race if it wasn't for the engine trouble. Great entertainment. BTW, Cascais is a town nearby...
Ams2 really does an amazing job with vintage f1 cars. Great race, loving the update!
This is great, only thing missing is Murray Walker's commentary.
"Look at that!"
Great stuff. You are now my favourite sim racing streamer. 👍🏽
i would love a full 1993 season series. full race length too
If they can fix the amount of corner cutting and for no reason going off track and bringing tonnes of mud on to the track the ai do each race, along with ai actively blocking / covering off the inside line and apex it would be near perfect.
Race kyalami modern and Suzuka, it’s so irritating that after three Laps with 30 ai cars, they turn those circuits in to RX tracks and ruins the whole experience. I wish we could turn mud on track off.
Great stuff. Looks like its time to try AMS2 .... again😀
Fantastic yet again. Loving this channel 👏🏻
Fantastic drive and livestream, Jake. Full race at Monza in the '93 "Ferrari" next, please!
Your videos are state of art. Congrats.
Great stuff, Jake, as always :) (Bathurst Australia)
My favourite part of AMS2, whether this is in the new update or not, is having multi-class races. Works so well for endurance racing
I really want to watch the complete 1992/93 seasons of F1 (in 480p or better). Is there a way to do that these days?
Search Big Zeddie on youtube, he's got a terrific collection of vintage f1 races. Sometimes full races, sometimes just longer highlights. Well worth following.
2 awesome ways: #1 is TH-cam season reviews, they got some in 50fps "HD"! But, the coverage of each race can be quite short and skips over lots of things, even big details or background knowledge. (These season reviews basically do race recaps, or summaries and don't go too deep).
#2 The actual F1 app, its 10 bucks a month, but 100% worth it to binge watch all the seasons in a month(actually there is so much content it would take a few months to watch it all).
The F1 app has literally every season from 1970-2023. Including the "in reviews" (Murray Walker or others review the races/season in hindsight with all the backstory) and also the "highlights" videos showing all the highlights of the race (and these video's seem to be made right after the race instead of at the seasons end "in review" if that makes sense).
And then the F1 app also has the full race broadcasts too.
So I recommend the F1 app, and maybe some TH-cam documentarys or season reviews for certain seasons, because only some of the TH-cam video ones go in as much detail as the official F1 stuff.
Fanboys aside we all know the reason they got rid of active suspension was because Ferrari was so far behind...
A lot of people new to F1 don't realize the influence that Ferrari has on rules!
It was to do with costs. I am sure Ferrari would have easily got active suspension sorted as they had the money. It was the lower teams that’s just couldn’t compete. Ferrari haven’t won a Championship since 2007 so that argument is void
@@ELUSIVEJIM The current power units were supposed to be four cylinder hybrid Ferrari is the one that demanded they were V6... Ferrari has also had veto power that no other team has ever had... So not void
The costs of running an F1 team were spiralling + the financial crashes of the mid 90s + CART was increasing in popularity significantly + most people dont like it when the car plays a bigger role than driver in F1
@@R9naldo definitely agree it's never just one thing... Actually agreeing doesn't matter those are all facts to buy point remember Ferrari was testing a cart car at the time also probably just a bluff but still a good one!
Did a race at 1991 Silverstone earlier. What a blast! Great content as well 🙂
Awesome video Jake. Probably the best (unintentional) ad for a racing game ever haha.
1993 European GP as Senna?
Great race, thank's for choosing Estoril, not an usual choice of track to show. 93 was the las time with this fantastic layout, after all the deaths of 94 the FIA emforced a lot of security changes and just killed this track. Still always a pleasure to watch and another fantastic win. Congrats from Portugal!
It was called the Drag Reduction System back then, too. So in reality the modern DRS is more accurately called a HAADRS. (Homologated Active Aerodynamic Drag Reduction System).
Wow great, love watching your races, that last lap and suddenly Hill was there, heart leapt into my mouth 😮
Back in the '90s I drove all the Papyrus sims. This... this is what I wanted from the opposition. Good stuff, Maynard.
Prost
Not Proast
i did belgium spa 2020 in a williams @100\high and the dirty air was awful. Also u can tweak tc and gearbox. up auto and down manual is ok. Full auto is bad because about downshifts .
Hey, great video.
I wonder what type of wheel you are using, I did read in the info that you using Fanatec stuff, but when I looked at Fanatecs website, I could not find any wheel that looks like yours. What model name does your wheel have?
Maybe Ryan Axelson will get disillusioned with Indycar in the early 90s and make the switch to F1? 🤨
What wheel are you using? I'm having a difficult time trying to find a smaller diameter round wheel that fits the Podium hub that doesn't break the bank.
Start reminded me of kyalami 92 or 93 start. Senna was Up front but both Williams got around him at the start.
just saw a video of schumacher getting hit in the visor by a load of sparks
maybe you could do a league on the weekends with these cars
That, was brilliant. I'm totally down for watching a season of this.
I'd absolutely love to see what you can do if you quit the talking and the one hand steering and really lay it into the race.
brilliant content as always
can i ask you your hardware? steering wheel, pedals & switches?
Awesome video, can you do the 1991 Ferrari F1
D Phill... DSP??
If that was DSP, then I think we would’ve heard the virtual driver yelling and complaining as GPLaps overtakes him.
hello here is dr.phill from germany^^
Nice recreation of this nostalgic race.
great race really enjoyable to watch
I did some 50 minutes + 1lap races yesterday mandatory pit stop for tyres and fuel. I noticed the AI are not affected by how much fuel they carry, they set the same lap times over and over. Where as the player with a full tank you lose seconds per lap at Daytona in the DPI. I’ve had to turn fuel useage OFF for the playing field to be level.
Great video !
May i ask you if you know how to simulate a real historical starting grid in ams2 (in case you don´t want to make the qualification).
I tried , but i probably missed something (or it is a very bad point for ams2 as an historical simracing platform)
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Turned a few laps last night and just snuck into the 15s. DRS with the suspension only netted me an extra 4kph down the front straight, every little helps I guess!
You should just start to refer to the "DRS" as the "Drag Reducing Suspension" so that you dont have to explane each time why it is actually DRS.
Finally caught up with this, utterly fun to follow and look forward trying some AMS2 again myself after really diving into a season of iRacing. I'll no doubt be trying some of the COPA classic stuff as racing those old bangers has always been such fun in AMS2
The timing gaps to other cars seems to fluctuate a lot, it must be calculated in a weird way, because it should be fairly steady.
This was awesome!
Thanks Jake. That was a super race. You did a great job nursing it home 🎉
AMS2 needs yellow flag system with udp for CC.
What a stream, AMS2 races incredibly now
FYI-the thumbnail for this one is from the Arctic Rally.
I’ve engineers call the mode “Low
Drag”
Sehr gute Fahrt, ich liebe das!
It’s 4am and I need to sleep. Had to watch the whole race. Brilliant.
👍👍👍👍😊😊
Please tell me how to remove wheel from cockpit in Automobilista 2 , where to find it ?
under main gameplay options -> display
@@GPLaps Thank You very much i got it :)
I LOVE this content. F1 and Indycar are my favorites. I would love to see the Indycar (Formula USA?) on Automobilista 2
That was pretty spellbinding
Hello Jacob. Love this content!
Regarding the layout, it's pretty much the same now, the only major change is on the Sector 3, where there is now a chicane before the last big right corner. Currently, that layout is still used on some press events, since it is easier on the car brakes
turns 1 & 2 have been pretty signifcantly reprofiled as well
This is fantastic, 🤞 please do a season
what do you mean with DRS? or did i get it wrong? but its awesome to see really good AIs to race against
The cars have a DRS, juste not as a movable rearwing flap, but as a ride height adjustement with the active suspension
He does the DRS explanation here: 8:38 and basically the 90s DRS was different, it did not move the rear wing, but instead adjusted the suspension and raised or lowered the car to reduce drag and make them go much much faster on the straights.
I forgot about it sinfe its been awhile, but I vividly remeber watching videos & learning about these early 90s F1 cars just flying down the straight with crazy sparks because of their DRS systems.
So I recommend watching some youtube videos of the real cars using the DRS in real life, it was pretty cool. You could literally see the cars suspension adjusting as they went to fly down the straight.
@@Thibouu Thank you, but does the AIs do the same?
@@nicklibby3784 Thank you, now my doubt is if the AIs are using the same trick?
That easy oversteer to slow mid corner sure doesn’t look very realistic.
And how many F1 cars have you driven let alone the cars of the 1993 season?
Thats like, the easiest time to oversteer a F1 car, of basically any year in any sim. I almost exclusively drive F1 cars on Asseto Corsa, Rfactor 2, AMS 1 & 2 and use a direct drive wheel - and I've personally found that most the F1 cars from the 90s onward (and honestly, all eras of F1 to varying degrees) can be "slid" or use the pedal to rotate the car on those slow medium speed corners. If you try to do anything like that at highspeed though: then youll either catch it very quickly or crash it very quickly.
I really don't think it is that unrealistic, he is using a Benetton, and this track Estoril has the perfect type of elevations and banking on the track combined with the type of turns that can cause you to to easily spin or lose traction if your not careful. Thats why this track is so fun.
I spent tons of hours ripping around Asseto Corsa with the 1991 cars on this Estoril track (1988 version) and thats just how this track is, the elevation changes, banking, and turns themselves basically make it so you feel like you can/want to slide the cars around a bit and use the throttle to rotate around the corners more than normal. And the banking + elevation changes in combination with the turns allow you to do things with the car you normally could not do as easily.
Also you have to remeber these cars have driving aids, like traction control - and guess what cars are notorious for slides and controlled oversteer? The 2001-2008 cars, schumacher era. Just watch videos from back then, the grooved tires + traction control enabled the drivers to kind of "power slide" the cars around certain parts of corners when normally it would be do risky to do.
@@nicklibby3784traction control was literally created to help stop power sliding amongst the other obvious traction related..lmao because when you are sliding you don’t have traction ya know 😂
@@RonniePeterson Reiza haven't driven any either. There is next to no data for these cars (CL, CD alone. Suspensions? None.) we basically have to use critical thinking to assume how they should feel. AMS2 does a pretty good job. Its just that the tyres in AMS2 are too 'flexy' and not 'static' enough
"You say "the tyres in AMS2 are too 'flexy' and not 'static' enough." Compared to what similar cars you have driven?@@R9naldo
Was this shifting method with auto-Up and manual down selectable in the new update? Or are you doing an override?
I get OCD on having accurate shifting in sims and am curious how this works.ha
Other than that, we need some Group C love!
Its a feature built into these cars specifically
Why would u want low aggression.back in 90s didn't have the blue flags shit got today it wad up to.u to get bye hence your skill that's why senna WAZ so good
lol they absolutely had blue flags in the 90s. They were actually becoming increasingly more common through the 70s and 80s, although obeying them back then was merely a matter of sportsmanship rather than a hard rule. You've probably seen clips of James Hunt complaining about drivers ignoring blue flags, like in Monaco '89 when Senna got bottled up behind Rene Arnoux.
By the 90s you could be penalized for not yielding after a few corners. It's definitely more strict today than back then.
But only to let slower drivers know faster car were catching they didn't jump out the way like today