Jay-Z Vs. Nas: Who REALLY Won?
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- The Season 2 Premiere of the 'Who REALLY Won' series kicks things off with Nas vs Jay-Z.
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Get it Bro!!
Have a great season G!
When will you make a tupac vs everybody
You da Goat 🙏🏽
thanks for your hard work ❤️
Heres another link to over a decade later Jay saying that Takerover was 100x better than Ether and he addresses Eminem getting him on his own joint...th-cam.com/video/OPdHdwLOfX0/w-d-xo.html
You predicted the Kendrick and drake beef😭
He did
He did 😂
Time stamp ?
Nvm lmao
I hope this dude still making videos lmfao this is crazy
Damn this video deserve to be on Netflix
I swear yo
And the Game & 50 part 1 and 2
All of his videos do.
@@jlking0098
The 50 cent vs ja rule is golden and needs to be distributed.
I lived thru a lot of these battles and Quake comes thru. He even finds some verse I never heard
Excellent work
Respect the level
Hov won and stay winnin .faxxxxx
Nas was number 6 on the hip hop Forbes list last year. Y’all act like he fell off the planet earth.
Bc he ain’t dead if he was they will be movie about him
AND JAY Z IS WHERE AND BY HOW MUCH.FOH
Idk Nas has 70 million, Lil Wayne is sitting on twice that at 150 million...
Then Jay Z out front with a billion
Ameen Hassan now did that money come from rap?
Nas signed TWO horrible Sony deals back to back. Fortunately for Nas the homie Hov signed him to Roc A Fella and he’s managed by Roc Nation now and they open doors for people. I’m happy Nas is on the Forbes list because Kelis is a very expensive mistake.
2:10 that aged well
😂
hahahahha
@@DiverseMentalityseriously bro that is a crazy prediction
@@qthedoggy7898 haha I didn't predict it I just knew that they were subliminally dissing each other this whole time since 2017 I've been wanting them to battle lol. I should've made a video breaking down everything like this documentary I will soon though since it's full fledged now.
@@DiverseMentality yeah bro that would be a great video
18 years later and they are STILL debating who really won… that means the culture won.
The Weakest Baldwin real talk 💯
They both won in funds. The Culture is dead. Peace.
I look at it like this : nas won da battle but Hov won da war
Hrant Esserian | The War isn’t over.
Cool - are nas and Hov aware of that though?
If I beat you in a fight 20 years ago and you become more successful than me, I still beat you in a fight 20 years ago.
If I beat you in a game of basketball 20 years ago and you end up winning 4 MVPs in the NBA, I still beat you.
If I beat you on a rap battle and you end up becoming a billionaire, I still fucked with your soul like Ether.
Yeah but the success makes that small battle irrelevant.
Kevin Hinojosa not really we still saying people got “Ethered” and we still bring up Nas getting Jay when it comes to ranking the top 5
lmao best comment
Well that does mean that you havnt improved after you defeated the other guy and he did the hard work and became successfull later on;Still Nas won.
@@Mrkevi123 It doesn't change the results.
Takeover woke Nas up
Ether humbled Jay
best analogy.
Agreed
Facts
2023 VISION 👍👍👍 BIG FACTS 🤔
Nothing to add 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
4 years later Drake & Kendrick really beefing
they were technically already beefing at the time it’s been going on for like 10 years
It's a law. Two mega superstars can't exist
Nas hands down won with "Ether." When you have Jay-Z shaken and uneasy in an interview with Angie Martinez, and the diss track becomes its own phrase ("You got ethered"), that's says it right there.
Its was before that
This was when super ugly come out he was shaking
The Original 8 Minute Version Was Brimstone Plain And Simple Either 👊🏽🎤🎙⚰🚬💯
Not only that the record dropped on Jay-z's b-day
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@@wacko37 Super Ugly came after Takeover you MiracleWip
“My child I watch you grow up to be famous and now I smile like a proud dad watching his only son that made it.” Nas
Hahaha
Talk to em!!!
Who’s the best biggie jay z or nas the takeover I’m back j hova
Fuckin FLAMES🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Lol...
We all know Nas won when "Ethered" or "Getting ethered "became a phrase that everyone used if someone got roasted. LOL
Takeover got turned into a slang phrase too
bobbydeazy that don’t make the song better than Takeover dummy
@@kassdremusic it was though
@@kassdremusic that shit that make your soul burn slow. nobody comparing "songs" dummy, we calling shots and who won the battle.
@@Eric-vh3ur the Internet is your life b
“this would be the equivalent of drake and kendrick beefing” that foresight is amazing….
It's really not. On one hand, two big rappers beefing. On the other hand, comparing it to... two big rappers beefing.
Not that remarkable.
Kendrick took shots at drake in 2013 wtf do you mean
You just glazing at this point
@@davemccombs ohh brother just shut up
Idiots on here using liquor and clothing sales to say Jay won.... So Diddy is the better rapper than Rakim with this line of thinking
ForefatherEnt 😂 Right! Like wtf.
PS: Rakim is my fave rapper. Absolute legend.
Jay did win, He got more classic albums more quotables and anything else that you think of.
@@VeigarAllDay that means he won the war.....but the battle, which just means them to nas vs jay. fuck out here, nas destroyed jay...nas is the better lyricist...jay use to idolize nas...took his style...everyone knows this
@@VeigarAllDay None of Jays classic albums, are better than Illmatic.
@@VeigarAllDay apart from Reasonable Doubt & The Blueprint are any of Jay's other albums even real classics? Its doubtful...
Ether made Jay Z re-evaluate his career trajectory. Ether actually changed Jay Z's life.
No diss track has ever done that, furthermore, Ether is not a diss track directed at one person.
It's a diss track that's directed at any fool stupid enough to throw down with the best lyricist in the game.
Actually Pusha changed Drake just as much
@@tmann9neyrgsalazar993 He sure did. That was nasty!
Naw son, it may be a warning to anyone who wants to fuck with the greatest rapper, alive or dead to ever touch a microphone but it was directly a diss at Jay-Z!
1. Nas
1a. Biggie
2. Tupac
3. Eminem
4. Jay-Z (I guess by default because of his longevity success)
5. Pick your choice (Busta Rhymes, Rakim, KRS-1, Method Man, Kool G Rap, Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg, Redman, Fat Joe, Big Pun, Common, Black Thought, Mos Def)
@Cfc7ninja 12 Can’t argue that! Maybe he doesn’t. That song “tha shiznit” blew my mind when I first it. Actually Snoop’s entire first album was a straight bagger! Other than that, he’s been aight, so your probably right on this one. Big L was lyrically a beast but he was never really my flavor of a rapper. Maybe it was his voice or something but I just never really felt Big L like that!
Hit em up changed alot of lives dude.
The thing about Ether is when that record dropped it was hands down the number 1 requested song on the radio in NYC for a couple of weeks. Flex broke it and dropped a bomb on it on hot 97 and proceeded to play that song no less than 10 or 20 times straight. That song was the definition of an over kill and still one of the greatest hip hop diss records ever recorded.
For me, it's without a doubt up there with 2Pac's Hit Em Up! 💯
@@kingsavage5832at least Nas wrote his diss.
@@CB-yt5xloh so you’re trying to say 2pac did not write his verses fr hittem up 😂😂😂 everyone one on that track wrote there own verse the only reason outlaws was on there Because that was their time to shine
carmen was way too proud to be telling that grimy ass story
@McGregor's Snot hmmm the used condoms on the baby's carseat line didn't help
@McGregor's Snot TAWK, these guys are stanin for NaS hardocre lol.
McGregor's Snot 2Pac did cross the line bout Prodigy sickle cell
@McGregor's Snot wtf u talking about Nas not beating his wife u dumb 7 believe anything SMH DNT do that rumor shit bro cause kelis took that statement back
@McGregor's Snot same as drake had to cry about pusha t rhymes about 40, when he said shit about cudi's mental problems.
Like you mentioned, its hard shit hipocricy, and many of fans are biased.
You cant win when youre crying on the radio! 🤣 ... Nas takes the W
c s factssss
Nas won and jay z is my favorite rapper of all time . Never would have admitted the L during the battle tho lol
Facts...With Angie Martinez sitting right next to Jay... Hov ain't fucking with Nas period.com
PeriodT!!!
c s I mean Nas kinda was crying on the radio with that interview about jay and how he degrades women. Nas is a giant hypocrite once you really think about it.
Jay-Z was no match for ‘Ether’. Nas tore him apart!
‘Ether’ shook up the rap world, period! 🌍 🎤 🔥 💥
Josh Kroenke But He Went To Work For JAY-Z After All That At Def Jam So Who Really Won🤔
@@vellb4598 But at least the situation didn't end up like Pac and Biggie!
Larvelle Bell I only care for the battle, not the aftermath
He wrked for la reid
Between nas ether or second round knock out canibus...which1 would you say is iller?
I really respect that these two artists kept it on music and it did not turn violent. That’s how hip hop beef should be. It should be battling not violence.
Jay z and Nas is the best beef ever from a hip hop standpoint. 2pac and biggie was very one sided and only one of them was taking direct shots at the other.
@@TyroneBiggums2003I hope you're referring to 2 pac. Biggie never said Pac name only snoop dog and other west coast rappers.
Hit Em Up was a shoot heard around the world with Bigs name and his whole crew. Not to mention his wife.
Had Nas released the original version of Ether, I really Believe in my heart that the "illumibots" would have killed him, I GUARANTEE it! The ONLY reason why Nas didn't release it was because Scarface advised him not to do it, he VIOLATED Jay
@@TyroneBiggums2003 not to mention both Biggie and Pac ended up getting killed in their primes. It’s debatable whether the beef had anything to do with Big being shot but still. That was the definition of an industry beef.
@@astralmindny9055this is a joke right?
Nas bodied J with Ether. It was game over.
@@BDA302 Lmaoo facts
Lol facts. 98% feel exactly the same way. Even the kids born after 2001 say ether is the best diss of all time.😅😂
@@jjjayden8964 not the best imo No vaseline and Hit em up are better and are songs u replay
@@TrueSunGod101 We are talking about the Nas and Jay-Z beef here, bud.
@@coolidgeowens320 and i am giving my opinion lol
Nas won. Jay Z’s response to Ether on Hot 97 is all you needed to hear. Once you get knocked out. You can release 700 diss tracks in retaliation but you still got defeated. It doesn’t change the outcome of Ether.
Facts bro
Leon M is He Ouchie Wally Wally Or Is It One Mic/Is It Black Girl Or Shorty Owe You For Ice/I Been Real All My Life/...#Blueprint2 And He Was Bussing Nas Baby Moms Ass Nas A Joke😂😂😂
Larvelle Bell didn’t Jay Z’s mom force Jay Z to apologize to Nas for that?
@@vellb4598 Nas still won
@@vellb4598 Banging nas leftovers. Jay-Z was gay for nas.
I love how nonchalantly Carmen talks about her miscarriage and cheating, like it was just an average Tuesday.
It probably was she bee doing this shit all the time
fr🤔🤨
Right, it made me look at Nas a little different. Like, you had a child with a woman like her? There are really some trifling women out there, that give the rest of us a bad name.
@@Msboochie2 lol she was so nonchalant about the situation like it was just ok to go and do that
"Average Tuesday" 😂😂😂😂
2:10 hypothetically cooking beef that actually made it to the stove... is crazy
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's here😊 been waiting on this for couple yrs now quake did it 💯
Diverse mentality brings us so many great hip hop content he really is underated , i CANNOT wait until pac vs biggie , he said he will do it one day that will be the day i"ll loose it
Who really won?
NWA fallout
Pt1 Ice Cube vs NWA
Pt2 Eazy-E vs Dr.Dre
Cube and eazy won.
Duje Radman Tupac vs Biggie
Cube vs NWA gon be crazy
Probably going to be the next one
@@qsmooth7805 Nah that's been talked about way too much
I swear i didnt realise this was even a debate. Nas won this hands down.
Lmao. I said the same thing. Is this a debate? Who is debating this?
#NasForTheWin
phat Shah it’s not
HANDS DOWN
Opinionated. I loved Ether...but I think Blueprint 2 (the song) would've won the battle if Jay dropped it as the first response to Ether instead of Super Ugly.
T. Stanley hell nah
Who’s here after the Kendrick and Drake beef going on right now?
It has now gotten in a more uglier situation than this one jeez it's getting scary about right damm know
@@matthewsengendo6302 Yea this is worst than Jay and Nas
Me. I wanted to compare it with past beefs.
Yeahhhhhh
@@lindastevens1969 drake just released his “super ugly” 🤦🏿♂️
Everytime, i watch your "who won" documentaries, i always leave with bangers to add to my playlist
Same bro 😂😂
G-unit so true😂😂😂
Dude I need to someone to make a diss track playlist on yt
Bro Nas won . In the early 2000s it was no discussion but because of Jay success now y'all trying to use that . Imo ether and takeover are top 5 diss tracks of all time
Nas won the battle. Jay Z won the war.
People always tryna talk about jayz success after the beef like that matters, nas won the beef period, what happen after the beef doesn't matter
@Summer Of Sam Beatz To me all of that was part of the beef. Look at the 22:00 min mark and listen to what Nas said. He wanted to end it, but Jay-Z new the Marketing behind it. So, I think you have to include that in the beef.
There was no war. It was a lyrical battle that nas won. So by your logic if nas ends up being a billionaire and surpasses jay then does that mean that nas won the war??😳😳😳😳. Stop with this war nonsense.
@@subhanamjad8787 war is far from over, 👀 feds are coming for jay z, yall think they stopping with R. KELLY. But🤫🤫 yall aint hear that from me. 2020/21 bout to be lit.
This was never up for debate .... Jay admitted he lost... His stans are in denial
The revisionist history on this comment board by Jay stans is absolutely ridiculous. Now it's about this imaginary "war" that Jay supposedly won. It's pathetic actually.
Facts !
@Kurt Jovain in an interview with Angie Martinez on Hot 97.
@Kurt Jovain ok...whatever you say. Ignore reality cuz you're a stan. Cool
@Kurt Jovain LOL...you accuse Nas of not making sense but you're the one who's not making sense. Nas was born in '73 so he was 15 in '88. Second, those verses aren't related to each other. He said Jay was calling him when he never gave him his number cuz he was sweating him and his style THEN he says Jay was getting chased to his building back then which is accurate. Jay grew up getting bullied until he started selling drugs later. Jay stans always claim that Takeover was more factual when all Jay did was give his opinion on Nas' career..."one hot album every ten years average?" WTF is that? It Was Written is universally considered a classic and it went 3X platinum. It was one of the 90s top albums. Plus, MC Serch is on record saying Nas got publishing money for Jay sampling his voice on Dead Presidents...so that was a lie too that Jay said. He lost...accept it cuz everyone else has, including Jay himself.
I love both these guys but I will always maintain that Illmatic is the best rap album ever produced
Facts
even with dem wack ass subway beats. u gotta be from NY.
@@PLawton2900 I need a Inhaler!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🎉💯
@@PLawton2900 NY beats are better than the wack ass g-funk westcoast shit
@@jmckeev765 Yeah, if ur from NY. I love both coasts beats. Just not that shit. Da beat Jay used was hard. He just should’ve made a damn song. Da Blueprint 2 beat was waaay better.
I liked the both of them, however, "One Mic" released and Nas became hands down better in my book. That one song became and still is in my top 5 songs ever in this Genre.
Amen!!! That album was straight fire from the title
That songs hit home
PAC or mas??
@@ccqm7777 my main choice of music is all things rock. Forgive me when I say Tupac and Naz was on the same level. I don't idolize people.
“ Nas is like “ good too
Nas won period. Their business ventures or other dealings outside of making a song has nothing to do with their lyricism. I get annoyed when people say Nas won the battle but Jay won the war. The whole battle and war was over WHO was the better rapper and Nas won, period.
And if we mentioned anything out of lyrics let's talk about how Jay-Z was a Nas groupie, and obsessed with Nas that he rapped like him, sampled him, got rejected by him and because Jay-Z was hurt by this even screwed his baby mother to feel more like him. Now if that ain't a case of single white female syndrome then I don't know what is.
@@TypicalChud Facts...That's why Jay-Z slept with Carmen Nas baby mother. Jay-Z was a Nas groupie and was mad Nas didn't show up to the Dead Presidents video shoot, that is why Az is in it and Nas wasn't because he no showed.
I’m 23 from DC ( Riko Monté all platforms but not why I’m here) and I wholeheartedly agree . Was too young for most but I did my research, being a student of the game, and this is nothin but facts 💯
Your 2nd paragraph is just your fairy tale. Stick to the first paragraph, talking nonsense!
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Hov the Goat
This reminds me of the 'Beef' DVDs but super sayan'ed up lol
That’s a damn lie lmao this ain’t shit like the beef dvds
@@drefrazier8973 Right! I like those better
xceed09 Facts 🤣
These videos are extremely well done. When you mention disses in songs, you actually play them so people don't have to go search for the lyrics, and you go through the whole beef with an unbiased opinion. I can't wait until Tupac vs Biggie.
We need the 2Pac v Biggie video ASAP!!!!!!
Top notch 👍🏾
Cmon Nas Ethered him, a whole word was created. Ethered!
That's all there is to say....
💯
Yo lets be honest nas Just Got Worse after illmatic were as jay Just Got better And Better Eventually Married Beyonce Became A Billionaire And Is The Most powerful And Influential Force In Hip Hop Today
Lee Lukhele he got worse? He dropped it was written, I am, stillmatic, godson, life is good was a dope album and kings disease is nominated for a Grammy. The only knock on his catalogue is nastradamus
@@leelukhele2112 it's not about money and all that and still successful doesn't mean u won that beef
Nas won. You could have made this video in 2 seconds....
Seriously though, I love these videos, some great work and your efforts are greatly appreciated.
LOL @ 1ST SENTENCE
No need to argue with these morons man. Everyone who knows rap knows that Nas won with ether.
He could have just said listen to ether
🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ether is the top 5 in diss tracks
Alexander Fitzgerald isn’t takeover also?
Canibus second round knock out is no1
Him an Tupac’s hit me up neck and NECK❗️
It's THE best
Nah fam,Ether is the best diss track Ever... It will always be No. 1💥♨️💯
this has aged beautifully now that kendrick and drake are beefing.. minus j cole apologizing 😭
Damn, looks like I'll be a couple mins late for that appointment
Hahaa but real deep fans of hiphop know its all worth it!
Negro Please💺
Nas & Jay Z still going head to head til this day, Jay is invested in Uber & Nas is invested in Lyft.
Crazy man they just made a track together
Nas also invested in the ring cameras
Good to know, not using Uber anymore 😂
@@Javifrom303 that's dirty lol
@@Javifrom303 You a savage bruh LOL
Nas won for the simple fact that his track made every Jay response lackluster.
Brian Glaze THANK YOU💯🤦🏾♂️
@@tyronetnj79 Jay spent time trying to chase the effectiveness of this track and couldn't.
@Kurt Jovain ?
@Kurt Jovain It wasn't that they were lackluster in and of themselves but I didnt have them measuring up to Ether.
I didn't even know Jay followed up with a response...after Ether, that was it for me...didn't need to hear anything else...lol
As of 2022, Nas is currently on a run with Dr. Dre appointed Hit Boy production. Won a Grammy in ‘21 for King’s Disease that dropped around in 2020. Then, a yr later dropped KDII(as good as previous), plus a surprise drop on Christmas Eve: Magic, which foreshadows a KDIII
Not to mention KDIII was outstanding
Jay z is the #1 Nas fan in history
Kaneda Shotaro facts
Lmaooo
Kaneda Shotaro nigga u dumb
@@lns7844 truth hurts
Duhh, he stole his style, sampled his voice, f***ed his girl, and still be throwing subliminals. There wouldn't be a jayz without nas. And thats real talk!
"Women left me cuz they thought I was Finished/ I shoulda knew she wasnt true, she came to me when her Man caught a sentence..."
~ NAS 💯
KINGSEANFAME extremely underrated song
Fckin deep when you listen to that part. One is a masterpiece! Audio and lyrics needs to be listenable displayed in a music museum in the future when nas is gone
ALL I NEED IS ONE MIC...
One of the greatest records in hip hop history
I cant help to think that Carmen is lowkey a thotty for calling J after she had an arqument with Nas, girl, you dont just do that.
NaS won cuz the line “you traded your soul for riches” is true. Jay z did do that
ByL EnZo Nas was winning... and then came Carmen
Nas traded his soul for riches. The minute he made a song with Lauryn
@L. C Nas sold his soul the moment he signed his contract with Columbia Records Nas was just less ambitious than Jay
Okay so didn’t nas and he flopped, while jay z made CLASSIC albums your point is invalid
I think that line came a few years too early. He sold out after the record he did with R.Kelly (2004)
4:44 and The Black Album are exceptions tho
Nobody: "You got took over."
Everybody: "You got ethered."
Jay Z: Billionaire Boss
Nas: Roc Nation Employee
Marlow Stanfield nas still won
@@3andahalf949 He won the battle but he lost the war. Nas signed to Def Jam when Jay Z was running it and is still an artist under Roc Nation, thats like 50 Cent signing to Murder inc lol or Pusha T signing to OVO lol, Nas took a L for that
Marlow Stanfield Nas still has millions, I think he’ll be okay 😂
@@nickgornall8929 Yes he has Millions, he works for Jay Z, and Jay Z pays his workers well
Funny you say the Drake and Kendrick thing
Made you look was a shot. “You a slave to a page in my rhyme book”.
Alot of this was covered by hiphopdx but u dug up those j tracks and interview that makes this a classic
Then why mention hiphopdx?
Ground Beef thought I was the only one lol
Jay lost. Even people on his team admitted he lost.
Kou Lee won the fuckin war tho. People would rather hear a jay verse than a nas
@@kiddchamberline750 no
@@kiddchamberline750 Thats just a lie.
@@kiddchamberline750 would rather hear Nas any day of the week
@@kiddchamberline750 thats a fact like hov said he only got 1 hot album Jay z got at least 6 classic albums.
came back to this video just to see him predict kendrick vs drake again
I chose Ether. Hands down! Nas won the battle. End of story! That’s why he’s my favorite top 1st MC’s and my first favorite influence.
"ETHER" Stole That Battle, Nas Beats Was Off The Chain As Well.
He the best to ever touch the mic
@@Kingmaly42 you're going a bit too far man
Well said!!! Nas is number one ....this isn’t even a debate
Who won the War
Of Course, Nas Won hands up and down. PPL will say Jay Z won due to the money Jay got but Lyrically Nas Showed Up Showed Out and Smashed Jay Z Hova. This new generation won't even understand the dynamics of Nas Story telling and Truth deliverance.
Low key nas may have More money than Jay Z
When people speak about another man's money, they already lost.
@@JuanMartinez-eu3uo noooo the fuck he didn’t 🤣🤣
@@indiangawd2177 nas without being flashy has years investing in various companies all these companies aré worth 10s of millions of dollars one of them was bought for $1B by Amazon
@@JuanMartinez-eu3uo and HOV doesn’t have a ton of investments? Come one bro, stop
The next video should be NWA vs ICE CUBE. IT'LL be a very interesting debate🔥🔥🔥
Stfu
That one isn't even close lol.
No Vaseline is top 3 diss songs of all time, alongside Ether and Hit em up
No limit- vs -Cash Money
Broken One365 Cube buried them.
Abyss 11 ???
Nas was the one responding and only needed to respond once in order to Either that man. Say all you want about Jay’s success, but that’s irrelevant to the question
Jay was desperate after Ether came out with Super Ugly, even challenging Nas to a ppv boxing match 😅😅
Yea that's what losers do. Where was this boxing match after the stillmatic freestyle came out??😭😭😭
@@willsmooth1355 he obviously didnt think the stillmatic freestyle was hot enough, and it wasnt...
@@o.gparamount3099 u just proved my point. Clearly u didn't understand my post.
@@o.gparamount3099 By the way Stillmatic freestyle was fire. He killed the whole roc on that record. Stillmatic freestyle is greater than that trash Supaugly.
Bro wym longevity? We talking about the battle we not talking about money and business. Nas took it💯
Tyrone Norwood Jr Exactly! I am about to make my own video on this beef detailing why I believe Nas won. If I beat you in a fight 2 years ago after you called me out and then 10 years later you become the biggest UFC fighter...that does not change the fact that I defeated your prior smh lol.
Yuup
Jay still on top I'd say he won
"Name a rapper that I ain't influence..."
Nothing more can be said after that line really...
Rakim, Krs one, llcool j and all those other greats that came b4 him. Actually Rakim and Kool G Rap Def influenced Nas to
Unless u name a rapper that he ain't influence😂
@@sugs1191 are you dumb ? how is he going to influence rappers that came before him ?
Now Drake and Kendrick actually throwing Subliminal's LMAO
Shit getting crazy
I'm glad radio stations stopped doing interviews with a beat in the background
Nas is a better rapper than jay-z, Jay-Z is a better businessman and marketer
Ya true.
Nas ain’t no bad businessman himself lately
Why does business matter to the fans? Jay ain’t putting money in your pocket.
The Pillage It’s always been like that, they admire Hov for his moves but at the same time don’t really learn from him. To be fair he peep his lyrics he rarely drops the moves just saying “you rich through me” which is kinda bizarre
The Pillage I’m not saying it does matter. Jay has more commercial success and is a better businessman and that why people look up to him. But nas is a street poet and a better lyricist than Jay Z.
Nas won their battle. Even Jay has admitted it multiple times. But if "Ether" strengthen Jay z to become a billionaire and the most successful rap artist of all time, so be it. Props to both for turning their beef into individual success and not death like their peers.
Ether is one of the best diss tracks still to this day
@@Tcrowe406 😂😂😂😂
FAX, its always better when the artists sort their beef out instead of carrying that grudge to their grave
Kanye just surpassed Jay Z in terms of how successful he is lol
@@owkrikki 🤔
The “Momma Love” did it for me…. NAS did the most respectable thing I’ve ever seen in any artist ever….
The WINNER is NAS hands down 💯💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
But somehow Jay Z is still more successful
@Michaell Alexander Yeah, you're right
“First rapper to bring a platinum plaque back to the project “
This was a WIN for us Queens natives and a DOUBLE WIN for New York! One of the few battles where there was no clear loser... Nas won the battle, Jay won the war but they BOTH "ethered" the rap game till this day! Name a battle more iconic than this... 🤨 .... EXACTLY!! 👏🏼👏🏼 The best part was how it ended. 2 of the BEST 2 EVER do it; lead the culture as to not repeat an East vs. West situation ever again. 🙏🏼
2023 ViSION ÀLL THE EAST COAST BEEF TOWARD EACH OTHER SHOULDNT NEVER HAPPEN 🤔
@@MankillTaylorVibe Magazine instigated E vs W. But Pac was still chilling with Boot camp Clique and Naughty By Nature
I get people trying not to offend JayZ cos of the success he has but the real fact is there is no war it was a battle and Nas got him period. Now JayZ has a billion for being a great business man but that has nothing to do with rap guys let’s not mix the two Lyrically Nas Won period
KinGNaNa@ Thank you, being richer got nothing to do with raps and skills.. Diddy is rich and he's not even rapping at all but benefiting from Hip-hop... Jay-z he's commercial and Nas he's not. it's like u saying Drake he's better than J-cole cz Drake he's commercial...
KinGNaNa Yeah Nas won the battle but the idea of the ”war” is who became more succesful after the battle and Jay won that hands down.
Mkr Mkr@ People got different ambitious, if u strive to be the most popular and I'm not' does it means u won the war? if J-cole or Kendrick Lamar can have beef with Drake, it tells me that automatically Drake is gonna win in your eyes cz he's more popular and most successful than both of them?!
A battle is for a short period of time and a war can go on forever. Im looking at it as a battle is between jay and nas rapping and the war is between who made out the best since the battle. For nas to win the war he would of had to prosper more than jay since the battle weather popularity wise or financially and he lost both of those categories. Thats why jay winning the war in my opinion. Oh and nas didnt have no businesses or investments until he was cool wit jay. So i feel jay influenced nas in that aspect. Nas won the battle. Jay winning the war.
@@mcook-69don nas is successful too. Jay-Z is just richer. The whole beef thing ended when Jay-Z invited nas on stage.
nas ethered him. jay fought back but nas made his soul burn slow. it took a while for jay to get back up from that lethal lyrical ether nas issued him. nas went in.
fought back? Jay started it
Lmao nas made up his whole life, jayz meant every word on the track big difference 🤦🏾♂️
Lol... who really won? Clearly Nas did. Da God went in hard.
tye buck Da God is no longer with us lol 😝
@@Casanovaski that's the same mistake Jay z made, thinking nas was washed up and thought he could try and diss nas and mobb deep in one song. First of all you're going to go at the legends you better spend the time and make tracks for each individual artist, second if you're going to go at NAS you got to get deep and philosophical cuz you know Nas when motivated can drop some of the most potent lyrics you will hear in hip hop and 3rd looking back at it and what I felt when I heard those songs was that's the Takeover just seemed like some typical Studio diss track Nas Ether just felt straight Gully... that's my two cents
tye buck I respect ✊ that but my opinion.....Jay gets that W.
NaS got his girl took & Exposed as a televangelists MC during this beef? How tf did he win?
@@Myke3362 the topic wasn't about who took whose girl or about who's richer it was about the MC battle between the two of them specifically Jay-Z the Takeover versus Nas Ether and I guarantee you if you ask 10 of your homies at least eight of them will agree with me
Crazy you predicted the drake n Kendrick beef
My Mommy told me to say sorry - Jay-Z 😂😂
NAS KILLED HOV
memphis bleek made it seem like it was all about him like he's going down in history too lmao no
LMFAOO right like Get out your head it other situations that made it worst
Jay-Z take over was a nice song but ETHER WAS A HARD DISS TRACK
In all honestly, Takeover was some brutal, truthful shit.
@@rivalsoul9853 that was the difference between the 2. Ether was just hard, takeover spoke facts... That's why I think that Jay diss was better
O'Shea Champiom The minute J had Nas signed a contract thats feeding him… J played the checkmate
Ether was way better than Takeover
@@dwilkinsworld A better banger maybe..
"Nas"
1. The World Is Yours
2. N.Y. State of Mind
3. It Aint Hard To Tell
4. Made You Look
5. If I Ruled The World
6. Hate Me Now
7. Street Dreams
8. Nas Is Like
9. Got Yourself A Gun
10. One Love
11. One Mic
12. Lifes A Bitch
13. Gave You Power
14. Represent
15. Memory Lane
16. Shootouts
17. Phone Tap
18. Fast Life
19. Halftime
20. Surviving The Times
VS
"Jay-Z"
1. Empire State Of Mind
2. Friend or Foe
3. Things That U Do
4. Encore
5. DOA
6. Niggas In Paris
7. Can I Get A
8. Jigga My Nigga
9. Excuse Me Miss
10. Allure
11. Money Aint A Thing
12. De'vils
13. Roc Boys
14. I Jus Wanna Love U (Give It To Me)
15. Girls Girls Girls
16. N What N Who?
17. H To The Izzo
18. Run This Town
19. Anything
20. Dirt off Your Shoulder
Dead Presidents, Hard Knock Life, Big Pimpin, Heart of the City, U Don’t Know?
Ether was so huge, it had us in Memphis laughing at how Nas was picking that dude apart, i played that song alot smh like damn he killing dude.
Ain it mane knight Arnold memphis shyt
@@darriusmackey7981 he yea hardest diss track fuck Memphis tho
Hell naw..Down here in Olive Branch Ms. we were riding with JayZ...you can't let someone throw a used condom on your baby's carseat and win...game was over for Nas then.
@@TheBsheep actually jay lost there. And even his momma said so
@@luismendes5868 I never said who won or who lost..I just said who we were riding with and who does his mother suppose to be? The hiphop battle judge??? lol gtfoh
Nas Escobar hands down the legit winner.
I definitely agree with your war and battle commentary. I just hate that we compare Jay Z & Nas because to me they are completely different artists and people. Nas has a different love for music (due to his dad’s influence) and is held to a higher standard. When Nas puts out commercial songs, it’s the “Nas fell off”. But at the same time, Jay Z does several commercial songs and everyone loves it. Nas wasn’t trying to play the political games, hence why he hasn’t won a Grammy.
Jay Z not getting signed to a label was his biggest blessing. He learned ownership, which made him the mogul he is today. Because of Jay-Z’s come-up story and current success, he gets more respect from all generations. When people talk about Jay Z, it’s beyond the music. Nas put out a “grown man” album (Life is Good) in 2012 and it was phenomenal, but rarely mentioned. But when Jay Z did it (4:44), everyone loved it. Nas is just ahead of his time and paved the way lyrically.
Agreed
Exactly
Facts bro
You forgot to mention that on Nas' *Nastradamus* album , Nas had a lowkey diss track "Come Get Me" dissing Jay-Z , which Jay responded with "Come And Get Me" ..
2023 VISION BIG FACTS LOL 😎
I always would listen to come and get me off that Life and times of Shawn Cater and wondered who Jay was dissing? I mean he was going hard on somebody but never knew who. Wow now I know
Nas won the battle and the war. He won everything, he ethered him.
@Mathematics idk man right after they shook hands Jay pulled Nas out of a shitty contract his 2nd shitty contract btw Nas was the kids who says ANYTHING to get the class to laugh at you Jay was the one that spit facts to garner the same results. The real will always win over the fake and their careers reflected this over the years 🤷🏾♂️
@Mathematics takeover wasn’t weak but Ether was just an atomic bomb😂
Lmao. You are one of those idiots too that thought jayz signed nas contract. No la reid was the one signing the checks. Do your research fam and stop being lazy😜😂
@@jjjayden8964 ok but jayz got nas over to his side so who won,everytime nas drops something jay z drops something in the same week
@@dantedlane2 Huh?? Over his side?? You do realize that jay dropping the same time as nas proves that ether is potent and still has jayz in his feelings. Like nas said back in 01. You will have to deal with ether for the rest of your life. Ether burns. Oh and one more thing: Ether dropped on jayz birthday.😂😅
Ya’ll can’t lie and say Nas wasn’t fine as hell 😂🤷🏽♀️
Still is!
Honeylee Fraser Agreed.. it was just something about that 90s type of swag that was different
Not only that, he’s genuinely a sexy ass man 😍😍😍
Crazy how jay z got his wife pregnant
Is fine as hell them looks ain’t went no where!!!
Edit: Bro that first scene when Pac screamed "Fuck Jay Z" is hilarious
That’s 2Pac
@@MrAjking808 Thanks for the correction
@@Risk6ix nah he's right because it was a sample of Pac on Ether. It's a sample off his song "Fuck Friendz" go check it out.
@@GreenHypnotic shit my yall, haven't heard that song
@@Risk6ix Hahaha no worries fam!
Nas… All-day till forever
yooooooooo. man you'rea great guy. people actually been waiting on this. was so excited
Yea this shit hella dope
Hype for this video was bigger than Endgame
HarshVardhan Arya lmao...no
I feel like Nas won the war Ether was the Killshot
Nas won because he was the underdog. In most cases the street always side underdog. Jay Z is bigger than rap music. Jay fucked Nas girl and everything Jay spoke about in takeover was true.
@@myernyanwleh2119 Nas won because he's the better rapper dumbass.
@@myernyanwleh2119 did you hear anything in the video most of the shit on takeover was opinionated underdog my ass nas made jayz if anything jayz was the underdog who learned his place not to mess with a goat
Did your dumbass just compare ether and killshot
@grant 125 lol I'm saying that ether was a better song then killshot. Though I dont know if nas is the goat. For sure top 3 tho
"It would be equivalent to Kendrick and Drake"...oh well 😂
Im thinking RAP won. But honestly, Nas did, if we are comparing disses and lyrics.
wrong
Kurt Jovain yes tf he did
Glock9ine he didn’t
TheBestEver yes tf he did
@@WizardDick nas won!! Signing under jay z doesnt mean he gave up and handed the torch to him!! It just simply means he doesnt care and in my opinion not only does that make you a badass but it also makes you one of the greatest!!
"Everything I said was reality, science"
Bongani Lejoane I caught that too. I like that way better than “facts”
I'm Have To Rewatch This Video Again I'm Hoping That D-Block Vs State Property Will Come Next
C'mon man we all know Nas won.
Everyone know who the number 1 rapper from Brooklyn is, and he’s Biggie from Bed-Stuy not Marci. RIP BIG
Nas = real king of NY.
J Anthony Marcy is in bedstuy
Fabolous number 2 he better than jay
@@grizz7167 😆😆😆😆😂😂(takes deep breath)😂😂😂😂😂😂..NO fabulous is not, fuckouttahere😕😒
@@grizz7167 only thing fab better than jay at is beatin his bitch👊🤕💯
o.g Paramount funeral fab better rapper then jay when it comes to just rapping jay a c-list rapper
"But I got stronger after Ether, Wow!“ - Jay-Z (Brooklyn High)
Admission right there.
Facts!!! " i will not lose!!!" Most people dont like jay because he keep winning!!! Instead of looking at other people; win yourself!!!
Lol
The fact that he even had to say that is all cap! That Ether still burning slow today.
“When you wanna get at somebody on that level”. defines the beef right there. Jay knew he had to raise his game to step to Nas. That tells you where Nas is at in the pecking order.
Was** nas hasn't been relevant since ether..and that's facts
@@dpowell468 bruh nas was still number 6 on hip hop Forbes last list. Mans been around since the 80s , of course he ain't the biggest thing anymore. He's done his time
Don't confuse the respect Jay had for Nas for the position they were in. Jay was still the guy CLEARLY at that time and STILL is.
Nas won the war too. Ether was like an atomic bomb. There was nothing more to say. Game over. In the streets, J lost all respect and could never be taken seriously afterwards. And if you talk about fame and money, that's what Ether was all about, J selling his soul for fame and money. Jay Z's commercial success just confirmed Ether's premise.
True, although I do like some of Jays later stuff like Story ok OJ and Paris but personally I feel he is only where he is now because of Beyonce, no denying she is bigger than him
Man !
NAS plays by the rules and ethered dudes out there
Jay z wasn’t bad but the way NAS did it it’s more impactful in my opinion
Preach
The beat was better
Oh shit I thought you were never gonna upload again
NAS Lyrically killed Jay Z and street wise pEriOD.
Nas won the battle, Jay Z won the war
FirstClassEnt1000 you’re on the street, you’re out boxing your opponent the whole fight and then he body slams you. The crowd goes, “Ooooooooooo”, collectively. You lost that street fight. Nas out-boxed Hov in Ether but then came Carmen, and JayZ and Carmen, and Carmen talking about JayZ ; then Carmen comparing Nas to JayZ, then suddenly Ether seemed silly. The crowd went “ooooooooo” upon hearing Carmen. Then JayZ became a boss at Def Jam and out-ranked Nas; then JayZ saw a billion and Ether got even weaker. Hov won the war.
@@TasetiMuhammadan70x70 I always say this 💯
Did you just say Nas...Nas is more street wise then JAY? Like we just gonna slide past the fact that Jay exposed Nas for being fake..? Ok
@@landonthewolf8838 Am talking bout that particular beef, that's it.
Nas is like... The king of hip hop, take it from a hip hop head that started listening and devouring hop hop since 1987. There is no greater rapper, no greater lyricist, no greater father of hip hop still releasing brilliant albums to this day. Nas is like fucking God!
P
And you call it "hop hop"
Lmao
@@dollalalalalotsagaming.8276 Hey Nas killed it with that line I rock hoes y'all rock fellas.
@@dollalalalalotsagaming.8276 what’s it’s called then homie? Enlighten us with your wisdom
He aint no god but he is a goat