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0:00 The Choices for Home Theater
4:46 How Different Surround Systems Work
8:46 Assessing Sound Quality with Headphones
11:38 more testing
15:26 Moving to Speaker Setup Testing
19:04 The Control webapp
25:50 I can't do Atmos in my Setup
28:53 The Dolby Position Limitations
34:02 How I see what Height Speakers Do
40:31 Adding the Final Front Heights
42:21 Praising the Oppo BluRay Player
45:40 RANT The Problem with Surround Sound Sources
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59:52 Repeating Myself, Sorry
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1:22:09 Waxing Lyrical and Atmos Music
1:24:54 Reviewing The HTP-1 Finally
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Do a full surround setup of Adam T5/8V as the speakers, no more worrying about amps
Also some avrs/processors allow you to reassign outputs to different positions. Plug your "Mid" Atmos channels into "front" and see if in the menus you can reassign "front" Atmos to "center"
Z Reviews I've had a similar experience. I have a Marantz AV7705 processor running into Emotiva amps for a 7.1 setup and I've been very disappointed with how much sound comes out of the side and rear channels, to the point that I'm considering just running a 3.1 setup. However, when I go to the theatre, they have all kinds of sound coming from the surrounds. How do you think they are doing this at the theatre? Are they getting a better audio track than we are on our blu rays or do you think they are just altering it?
@@blunderingknifereviews1028 honestly I don't know enough about commercial theaters to give a solid answer. I know the mixes for theaters are completely different then most consumer blends
PS The Trailer is from... a while ago. Enjoy the blast from the past and my Chewbers
Awesome video pic!
I love that old apartment. 5 years of memories.
The memories..
the old apartment is the goat
CHEWBS
I can't wait, I've wanted more home theater content out of Zeos.
I'll get ready for your whole Year's worth
If you still have that setup, what you really are/were looking for is the Auro-Matic feature. The specs page lists it as the last supported audio codec. I have a Marantz SR8015 in the living room with the Auro-3D 9 speaker layout / Atmos 5.1.4 format with the heights laser aligned to seating positions due to OCD. Auro-Matic takes content in whatever format it is in; DTS, DD, DD+, Atmos, even stereo, and converts it to Auro-3D. It will use the height speakers a lot, and it does a very good job with most (90%) content. There is an Auro-Matic setting from 1 to 16 that allows you to tune the affect. Set properly, the LRC and front heights have the front stage floating in the room sounding like it is coming from a few feet in front of your face at screen level. If you have the setting too high, some content will have random audio that should be in front of you sounding like it is above you or sometimes almost slightly mixed with the backs. Setting it to 14 keeps that from happening in my environment which is about 7.5ft viewing distance. During the day, my wife watches regular FIOS TV content like HGTV. It uses the height speakers and sounds great. Also, 85 to 90% of content in native Atmos sounds better in Auro-3D. Atmos content in Atmos sounds good. But you can clearly hear things moving between speakers. The average person, if blindfolded, would be able to point directly at my height speakers in Atmos mode. Where with Auro-3D sounds blend better and subtle sounds come from areas/angles where viewers are not even sure if the sounds are in the content, in the house, or coming from outside at times.
i get my Atmos fix by going outside during a thunderstorm with a blunt and settle down and listen to the reverb trail from thunder claps , lightshow and immersive natural sound. my wife has problems with just two Q speaker towers in the main room, there is no way she would go along with another 5, 7 or 11 speakers in that space.
Atmos movies that really leverage the format:
Ready Player One (locked to top-middle but amazing sound mix)
Jupiter Ascending (the chase through the city at night is a standout)
Gravity (one of the most dynamic uses of Atmos. Sounds can come from anywhere)
Godzilla v Kong (Kaijus fighting. Of course)
A Quiet Place (very atmospheric. Not bombastic but ambient sounds everywhere)
Any war movie (I like the plane wreck scene in Overlord)
Mission Impossible Fallout (several scenes make heavy use of Atmos)
300 (fight in the shade scene. The entire ceiling is filled with the sound of flights of arrows. It would sound AMAZING with 6 ceiling channels)
Baby Driver (pay attention to when he puts headphones on)
Spiderman Far From Home (the scene where Mysterio is messing with Spidey's head. His voice comes from everywhere)
Its all about the specific movie. Most mixers arent using Atmos effectively in the movies. The format is fantastic. The mixers need to catch up.
The problem with Atmos is it may be object-based but literally everyone in the sound design process still treats it as if it's channel based.
Yeah, that's basically it and why I think for games it's great if impractical for most. Games especially PC ones have been treating sound as object based since at least the 90's when games became 3d, even EAX had rudimentary support for height objects even if it was meant in a HRTF sort of way. One day someone will make an emulator of sorts for EAX that can translate it to window's spatial container so then it can be played via atmos or DTS-X on the pc.
Thats the biggest problem with it
Atmos is great for video games FYI
100% agree. I’ve been doing surround since the 80’s, and despite new formats, the software hasn’t significantly improved. Auro was first out, and its speaker layout is consistent with how humans actually hear (we’re relatively insensitive to sound above and behind). As of now, I believe the best option is to setup according to Auro specs and use the Auromatic upmixer on Atmos and DTS:X mixes. This makes the investment in surround sound and speakers worthwhile and significantly improves the experience of nearly any movie.
Asking for rca jacks on this product is really a huge sign just how much this is not your cup of tea, I say that with all due respect, I love your reviews. I'm in the market for the RMC-1 from emotiva and a major selling point was that it had only XLR outputs for my 9.2.6 home theater. At a certain point you don't fit the equipment to the room, you build the room around the equipment.
I have the emotiva XMC2 and it’s incredible. Paired up with arendal 1723s monitors and surround with SVS heights and 2 PB300 and EmotIVA DR3 for amps. I have a legit theater in my room. I have a VAVA 4k ust that puts up a 150” screen 😎😎😊
There are a few things about Atmos that hurt my brain at first. Some of which are likely true of DTS-X as well...
With Atmos (at home), most Blu Ray releases are mixed to have 7 "ear level" speakers (plus LFE), using TrueHD to compress those channels losslessly.
Atmos itself is just an extra substream of metadata added to the TrueHD stream.
(older non-Atmos receivers simply ignore that extra substream.)
Originally, I thought Atmos releases would include maybe two full extra channels of audio along with the 7.1 mix.
But no, the bandwidth for the metadata is tiny. It doesn't contain *any* actual audio data at all, AFAIK.
So that means ALL of the audio you're hearing in the Atmos height channels originated in bed (ear level) channels.
Which in turn means - Atmos is essentially a fancy "panning algorithm" that selectively pans audio from the original bed channels into the height channels.
The metadata contains info such as X,Y,Z position, but it has to make some compromises with how much it can try to separate the "objects" from the original mix.
(there are probably some clever things they can do to extract specific sounds from the bed channels, because they are losslessly encoded/decoded, therefore they can do certain mathematical operations such as subtraction on the audio with no quality loss.)
The metadata also has some parameters such as the "spread" of each object, which to me suggests it just means how much it spreads the sound between multiple surround speakers, vs trying to confine it more to the nearest speaker (vs the X,Y,Z coords for the object.)
I only just got an Atmos setup as well recently, using an older Onkyo TX-RZ800 receiver, and only two height channels on the front wall atm. I have some other speakers on the way, so I can put them on the ceiling. The Onkyo can only decode 7 channels, but I'm working on something to decode 11.
From what I've heard so far, Atmos (and probably DTS-X) also uses some HRTF (Head-Related Transfer Function) stuff to whizz the sounds around your noggin more realistically. Or maybe *not* so realistically, depending on who you speak to. lol
Atmos definitely adds some extra depth to movies, but the mixes on most Blu Rays has been a bit disappointing so far.
Some movies barely use the height channels at all, even when the action on the screen suggests it should.
Something they do with TrueHD is quite clever...
(please don't take all of this as gospel. There will be a few mistakes / assumptions.)
The initial output from a TrueHD decoder is nothing more than raw uncompressed audio.
(usually 48KHz 24-bit on most Blu Ray disks, IIRC? Or is it only 16-bit, I can't remember? lol)
But, to make it easier for TVs and sound bars to decode things, the 1st and 2nd streams in a TrueHD stream often contain a Stereo (or Pro-Logic) downmix of the whole 7.1 surround mix.
The 3rd and 4th streams might contain say the Left Surround and Right Surround channels.
A receiver (or processor) can then subtract the L/R Surround channel audio from the Pro-Logic mix of the 1st and 2nd streams.
That will give you a 4.0 surround mix, leaving the phantom center in the front L/R.
They can do that with very little processing power, and no quality loss, since the audio is uncompressed / lossless.
The 5th and 6th streams might contain say the Center and LFE channels.
The receiver can then subtract the Center channel audio from the front L/R mix, giving a 5.1 surround mix.
(LFE is either mixed with the front channels, or sent to the sub, depending on the bass management settings.)
I thought that was quite a neat way of doing things, as it makes it far easier for cheaper devices to decode a 4.0 or 5.1 mix from a TrueHD stream, and it saves on bandwidth by not needing a separate stream for Pro-Logic vs discrete.
(the 7th and 8th streams will generally contain the audio for the Surround Back channels, with the 9th stream containing the metadata for Atmos etc.)
The technology is quite sound. It works very well as Zeos found out with the Atmos and DTSX demos. But yes, the sound mixes themselves can be very lackluster.
Some directors dont even want to work with Atmos (Chris Nolan, looking at you)
Other directors want minimal Atmos.
Then there are sound mixers who lock their Atmos mixes to 7.1.2 or 7.1.4 channels, effectively depriving those with higher channel counts from a full Atmos experience (9.1.6 becoming standard with preamps)
Hopefully sound mixers will get a clue and directors will finally unleash them to create phenomenal mixes. But we arent there yet.
Damn emotional damages
informative, thx :]
@@fredthebasspro2256 np ;)
I only just got around to building the first FPGA / DSP board prototype this week.
It has the same Cirrus DSP as in my Onkyo TX-RZ800, which is part of the reason I bought (and repaired) the Onkyo in the first place. lol
I haven't yet got the decoding working on the Cirrus, but it is booting and responding to SPI commands.
(I'm using an ESP32 for control. And the FPGA is generating some random square wave I2S to feed into the Cirrus, but I'm not getting any sound output yet.)
If I can just get Stereo working, then I can try decoding Atmos or DTS-X, then I'll be able to have more boards made for a proper hardware decoder.
(and also finish building my own 12-channel amp, which is the main goal atm.)
The board has an ADAU1466 DSP as well, which is meant for room correction / EQ / delays. Basically the same chip in the smaller MiniDSP.
(the FPGA can do some delays and DSP stuff, but it's a bit limited.)
I love these! Huge Huge crown fan. Once you start driving all this, a commercial amp like crown makes so much sense. 8 2 channel crowns giving you 250W RMS at 8 ohms would run a theater beautifully before you get into the actual commercial JBL theater systems. I'd love to see you try PA speakers for theater too. Behringer powered 10s or 12s can be had cheap compared to anything SVS makes.
It's amazing how many fantastic Atmos/DTS X mixes there are now since this review has come out. So many good immersive audio movies now.
Also, ASR recently posted that with all of the customer support and firmware that has come out to date, this processor has cleaner outputs that any other processor they've tested. To include Trinnov and Storm Audio. Pretty freakin impressive.
The most craziest Z review ever! Love it!
Damn, I was really confused, as to why he's back in the old apartment.
I see Chewbacca as an option for something. I do that thing
You are one of the funniest reviewers on you tube. Keep up the great conversation 👍
In another 50 years, I’ll probably check out atmosphere, like I’ve suddenly discovered surround sound and high end vintage stereo being dumped in the market.
I love your used tech. Never quit consumerizing, fam! :)
Epic journey Zeos, welcome to Atmos! Glad you enjoyed it. I'll be grabbing an HTP-1 soon for my 7.2.4 build. Regarding the complaint about the top middles, I think in your setup with 4 speakers on top they would just be top front and rear. Atmos has no concept of front heights like you had with the third pair up front, that's an Auro thing. But if you want the full customization like you mentioned towards the end, you might need to go full Trinnov and sell your car, haha.
"this is my hopefully end of the video rant"...with 48 minutes left 🤣
And your rant on surround sound mixes is why I'm perfectly happy with just a Sonos 5.1 setup
Wow how far we have come in "Stereo". This is like pro sound engineer.
Dude, Denon/Marantz have had Auro-2D “available” since at least 2015.
Luv ya bro, you’ve been out of the game for quite awhile. You gotta be able to play all positions. Not just be the Boss of IEM and DACs. Auro 3D “was” popular over in Europe. Auro 3D is now dead.
The Emotiva processor you have has been replaced by a 7.1.6 model for $1000. It is good if you are willing to forgo the dirac and the better interface of the Monoprice.
And Auro upmixer, and bass and treble controls, and better signal to noise ratio, and better separation, and, etc.! You get what you pay for. What are you willing to sacrifice? For lots of us it's cash.
When Zeos asked Echo for the temp conversion from degrees F to Celsius, my echo dot answered! 😂
PS here is the Trailer video from 2018 th-cam.com/video/8bGnutWUJMw/w-d-xo.html
this is like my parasound p7 on steroids, very cool.. also i love my oppo 4k player so im with u, idk why they stopped making them :(
Holy fuck this was Brutal to sit through, and I still know nothing about the HTP-1 I didn't already know.
Yes, he takes a great deal of time making his points
Finally finished! I caught the last couple seconds of the premiere. Awesome video, I enjoyed the hell out of it.
Now I'm trying to convince myself I need a 7 channel bed layer made up of 7 JBL 590's for $2800+ tax. I cant stick them on the ceiling though🤣😎.
Any thoughts?
Cheapest atmos receiver with pre-outs that I know of is the Onkyo TX-RZ50. Good luck finding stock though. Denon AVR-X3700H is slightly more expensive and lacks Dirac, but it's in stock.
Yeah I have the x3700h, I highly recommend it.
I wish someone would make a simple processor for a 5.1 system. Emotiva did, but it is unavailable or no longer in production. Just a simple processor that will do the soundtrack basics along with a quality video chip and say 8 HDMI connections with XLR outputs. No bluetooth or wifi, no apple, none of that. Just a simple solid AV processor.
Wow awesome. Loved it. Yup Oppo is awesome. I use my 103D as a processor and preamp.
My next upgrade is balanced. Heard a lot about audio being extremely clean and clear. Have to see the other videos and figure if I can do this while maintaining most of my gear.
Ehh it depends. Balanced circuitry is good for eliminating noise, but usually that is very minimal anyways with modern electronics and cables so it's not an enormous difference. The only time it makes a large difference is if your amplifier is designed to have balanced outputs into headphones specifically, since you can get a lot more power with balanced outputs into headphones.
Saludos !!!EXCELENTE!!! tu trabajo el que estas haciendo, yo tengo un Onkyo Digital A88-00 con un amplificador M504, con un ecualizador EQ540 y otro EQ201 y una platina TA2550 y un plato CP1500F y aguja tocadiscos Ortofon 40 y CD DX708, y la radio T4500,Todo los modelos del INTEGRA que es de lo mejor que de la onkyo NO hechos en masa la producción si no son selectos de la Onkyo Y los cables conectados al equipo son de la marca KabelDirekt Pro Series RCA y 4 Altavoces DAS R-212 . EN FIN TODO UN CLASICO DE LOS 80S Y 90S de equipos de sonido de aquella época, con los años jamás se me ha roto ningún modulo eso ya se ve de como trabajaban antes y los materiales de fabricación, espero tenerlo duarte ,muchos años por la calidad de un buen equipo musical ,saludos y muy buenos videos que tienes un gran like para tus grandes videos ya no se fabrican tan estupendos modelos de sonidos como estos aparatos ,es una pena , que hoy en día todo sea platico, saludos desde Barcelona - Podías hacer uno de Onkyo Interga también de Review
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Are the Fluid FX's that good that they're still there on the stands?
After the full explanation I'm more confused than when I got here.
Music on a blue ray mixed specifically for atmos is pretty cool though
The future bites Is killer!!
will be nice to head your opinion in the future videos of surround sound setups and equipments(in review videos and maybe test demos) about atmos and surround sound in games. im curious how recent AAA games performs on this overkill setup audio wise and if a better speaker configuration compared to a standard "shitty" one aids to a more immersive experience(Miles Morales,Death Stranding,Ghost of Tsushima,Bloodborne,Souls,rezident evil, bioshock, etc) mainly japan influence horror, thriller and adventure games.
Actually, a lot of receivers and processors starting in the midrange prices start having multiple dac chips. Different mfg's set them up differently. As an example my Denon 3700H has 2 AK4458's while the 4700H has 7 PCM5102A's. A lot of the high end 3k dollar plus receivers and processors have 8 or more ESS Sabre DACs which is likely what that Monoprice unit has.
When I say 8 DACs many times that's 8 DACs that have 8 channels, more than likely 2 whole chips for the front 2 channels alone or 16 outputs. That's how the Sabre DACs get their insane performance though.
@@plaguedog32 yeah this whole thing was in response to him saying that many of the receivers only have one dac or something of the sorts.
I literally 7 videos in and just subscribed because of your ranting
On the "spend a hundred dollars and you'll be fine" part, I notice that ifi have just announced budget versions of their entire lower end desktop range, the Zen dac v2 (I have one, it's great) included.
"More or less" the same electronics inside, I think, but with plastic cases and other tweaks to take the price down to £99 per item, with the standard Zen dac v2 currently £164 on Amazon UK. Interesting move.
I would love to see a nerfed version of the Ifi Go blue. Maybe get it closer to the price of the qudelix 5k, BTR5. I think it looks really cool but it would be really hard to justify paying nearly twice as much for that over the Q5K in my opinion. Although if I'm being honest even if they got the price point down, I'll probably take the parametric equalizer on that over the ifi model. But it would be a tougher decision.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 here in the UK, the goblu is £199, available immediately. Best price I could see for the 5K is £225, and Amazon is out. Boils down to how much you need EQ in your head. Personally, I can live without it, in context. ;)
MR. Z, I'm using my HTP-1 with my Emotiva A7 by using XLR to RCA cables by Worlds Best Cables. Although I really like Auro 3D, (actually Auro 2D because of lack of source material), I really miss Neo 6. The beauty of the HTP-1 is the massive adjustability of the unit. I set mine up manually and it sounds amazing. Caveat, not for someone who does not like a challenge, LOL!
I just added a second amp, (2 ch), to power a pr of XB's that I was not using. Now used as front wides. So now there are 10 6.5 woofers, 4 5.25 mids, and 9 1" tweeters. All PSB! In my bedroom! No wonder I cant sleep!
Cheaper option is the Onkio TX ZR50 it supports 8k 60hz and 4k 120hz and other gaming features plus THX enhanced!
Waiting for the rumored Onkyo TX-RZ70 that is supposed to have Auro 3D its also my #1 pick, and I designed my speaker setup to work with it, because a proper Auro 3D setup will also work with Atmos and DTS:X but not the other way around. Not sure I am willing to buy into the HTP-1 for that feature (the processor and the amps) especially not until it comes with HDMI 2.1
The BAD thing about Auro 3D is the lack of native content, so good luck finding movies using it, the good thing is its upmixer is supposed to be pretty awesome, often preferred to use the Auromatic upmixer to watch an Atmos movie rather than even the Native Atmos playback due to how bad some Atmos mixes are.
Also I am so jealous of your space? I love how open it is, as a follow youtuber I would die to have that space to work with.
By the way Zeos, where did you get that demo disc?
Only just got around to watching this many months later! It would be really cool if you could create a permanent matched speaker setup that would work with atmos, DTS-X or auro 3D amps for reviews, I know
It would mean a lot of speakers as the auros would make it more annoying not using the same overhead configs, so it might be over 20 speakers that are needed lol. Probably save you time in the long run though for all the a.v amp and processor stuff, then when a new amp/dsp comes out you just connect speaker cables and bang! all done.
@Z Reviews Been waiting a long time for you to try Atmos. Where did those demos come from, do you know? (Like the Lightning one, etc?)
@@plaguedog32 Thanks. As it turns out I have it. I had just never watched those Demos before. Haha. I never knew what they were.
YEESSSS !!!! .. this is 100% on my list to get. Are you going to get any of the speakers for the brand on for review? I know a guy.
45:40 Midway and A Quiet Place are the best Atmos movies I've ever heard .
300 is a movie that all the speaker are lit up with ambiance
I love the way you jerk the camera around constantly. It makes me giddy.
This is maybe a really stupid question but is there a way to connect active speakers to an a/v receiver that only supports passive speakers?
The only stupid questions are the ones not being asked.
To answer your question, you would need some LOC's (Line Output Converters).
By the way Zeos, most of the decent AV processors and receivers have web control
Dammm.. I was really looking at this unit hard.. I just wanted to take my denon out and hook up my blue Jean rca plugs.. There is no way I'm running new cables.. To my 7.2.4 set up.. 😢😢😢.. Another question.. Could it run 7.2.6?
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Denon 3700.. Monolith 7 * 200.. Emotiva basx4 for atmos.... 7.2.4 Arendel 1723s LFC.. Arendal 1723s surrounds.. Arendal 1961s heights.. 2 Arendal 1961s Subwoofer.. Equals 😁😁😁
I agree there is hardly any real atmos content, but I feel is getting better. The Adam project in Netflix was so good in atmos, I hope the streaming devices continue to push their sound that way. Apple TV * also has some good Atmos mixings
U make me want to buy it now
The gigguk reference wasnt expected but I have always considered zeos the gigguk of audio
I had always thought hole in the ceiling of your apartment's living room was for a future AURO Voice Of God speaker.
Supposed to be good just like the Emotiva. The back looks simple compared to my AV7705 tho
So stick with 7.1.2? Cause that would save about $3000. Canadian that is
This originally started as an ATI unit, that was going to retail for $9,000. Only because Monoprice rebadged it, we're getting it for under $4k. Licensing fees are what adds up. What Zeos is looking for is the Emotiva MC1 or Tonewinner AT300. Not everyone needs 16 channels, and/or Dirac.
Awesome ATMOS test flicks, Blade Runner 2049 (My Fav) and of course the defacto, Mad Max Fury Road.
" Monolith " by Monoprice. .. Important to name and tag it correctly.
What camera are you using and how are you mounting it for fpv?
That looks orgasmic. I honestly dont know how you managed to get this video on youtube without censoring that box.
So 6 vs 4 vs 2 speakers for atmos/dts-x/aura 3d?
Dude i hear u every time i watch a movie im like well..... this is a qaurter of what i heard it do listening to the demo disks or the trailers ........... the trailers are good
Z, in the ceiling setup, choose front and rear ceiling speakers even if the “front” are in the middle. When you run Audyssey, I believe that should be corrected.
It would have worked if he chose Top-Middle and Rear Heights. It wont let you do just Top-Middle and Top-Rear or Top-Middle and Top-Front. Not without both the Front and Rear present. But it WILL let you do Top-Middles with either Front Height or Rear Height. Kinda weird but thats how Atmos chose to do it.
@@FURognar It’s been awhile but you’re probably right. The point is that there are work-arounds to get the desired outcome.
Wait a minute... Back in time.. trailer.. hmmm...
My favourite manchild has blessed me with another upload, never disappoints
Its Child-Man. There is a difference
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What is the name of the disc you use for testing atmos?
You mentioned Gigguk and VR Paradise in this video. I see that you're a fellow man of culture.
Can you review some daps that are at the $300 to $600 range? Also the sony wm1a or any new daps.
Overhead still sucks really as it involves how well it was actually mixed in atmos or DTS-X. Harry potter dts-x movies are great, Options that do it well for me are "2012", "Spiderman far from home", start of "Kong island", Start of "Finch".
imagine hooking this up to 16 crown XLS 2502's in bridged mode lol
I'm using 5 1502's + 2 Monolith 12's and I worry about my buildings 13 amp/3000 watt limit. I've no idea how you'd power that much
All house have 200 amp service
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Yes, with my 10+ years old Porta Pro running off my laptop's on-board DAC, I can confirm, that this setup is indeed very poggers.
The reason why practically nobody supports surround is very simple: virtually no one has the space or money for this, or even cares about it, because it makes very little difference with most movies for most people. If you're watching random shit on the TV, no way that's gonna be recorded in surround, and you'd just be wasting your money to trip over audio cables. The best chance would be making Blu-ray producers release proper surround audio tracks for the 10 people that care, but there's very little motivation for that.
Even if my entire apartment wasn't half of the size of this setup, I still couldn't justify the ridiculous expense to gain nothing from Netflix movies and seasonal anime ripped off a random Japanese TV channel, so that's why no one has surround, and why everything is mixed for stereo.
Netflix lists when films and shows on their platform have the audio mastered in multichannel 5.1, 7.1 or Atmos. They're not all in stereo.
Yeah, pretty much.
I love surround but i honestly don't have the money for It.
How come you didn't get one with hdmi 2.1? I think mcintosh, arcam, marrantz, denon have processors with hdmi 2.1
A patron sent it to me. So I'm not going to complain or ask him to get me something else temporarily.
If you want to steady hear atmos on the heights.
Ready play one. Scene 2 the race.
Starwars episode 1. Pod race scene
I have 110 4K blurays. And a 9.2.4 atmos setup. If ya want more movie recommendations that actually light up all the speakers let me know.
what do you got?
Ever try vertically orienting the center? If not, try it, you'll be shocked at the difference
Marranz is my fav in this category.
Why are the JBL A530's sitting on the shelf with the rest of the "not in service" speakers?
I thought that these were the "best" speakers on the planet ?
Zeos vids are getting longer than movies. Soon he should start selling 4k discs of these. In atmos of course
BLACK RAIN was set in New York as well
What demo disk was that with the storms?
The most amazing thing I've ever heard, besides the start of private Ryan, are the title soundtrack from the Animatrix, it is just OTT Just FYI
How about SONY HT-A9 ?
This looks amazing! I need one! I wonder if it would replace my CP500?
I'm waiting for a 64.32.4 amp to connect to 100 speakers so the hardware industry is happy...
Do you remember Q-Sound from the 90s? Some arcade machines used this technology to make 3d sound from 2 speakers, seemed to work well.
Have you seen Fury in atmos ?
I think the Atmos diagram for the selection between 2 and 4 and 6 speakers is misleading. Every diagram I saw when I set up my four speaker system shows a pair in front of you and a pair behind you. The pair in front of you and behind you were set at a certain angle off your seating position. The parent front was not pushed all the way up against the front wall on top of the TV. That was only if you had six six speakers or three pairs. Your setup basically looks like that already. I'm guessing it would be fine if you just turned on. The four speakers ended the calibration.
love your videos. could do a budget headphone round up under 100$
KPH40 and... Well everything GREAT and closed back like the SV021 are around $150..
You should get one of those radiation meters and check to see if you are pushing limits for your safety or not . Sweet equipment. Be safe sir
Also check for radon gas coming up from under the basement slab.
There is always JBL SDP-55 which have RCA outputs.
...I'm going to stick with stereo. Pretty sure my stop was 20,000 leagues above this depth
Shoulda tried out ready player one, everyone raves about that one scene
Watched that entire movie actually.
streaming on youtube now?
Beautiful BABACHEWBERS!
I'm confused. Why didn't you just select front and rear atmos speakers and not worry about where the schematic said they were located? I bet the processor would have mixed between both the "front" and rear to give you the mid channel. But I understand your frustration to some degree. Also, I think the Denon 3000 series has historically been the cheapest receiver with pre-outs. I have the X3200 and an older 7 channel Emotive amp... it's amazingggg. My recco for anyone starting out is invest in a good 5 speakers and 2 subs. Anything else is hype and barely worth it on disc or streaming. How many times can you watch Mad Max?? Nonetheless, I persevered to the end, and it's a good, raw video. Thank you for wasting your life so I can waste mine!
I dig your wiring job. Jk I know you’re going to tear that shit down when you’re done.
You should try DTS-X
I would like to see audio gear off load the processing to PC/ect . better handshake with computers and use the computer for procressing. just my opinion.lol
That is what the main theater does. MiniDSP UDIO-8 into a DDRC88D so no processor just MPC-HC Decoding and MadVR rendering. Dirac Sets delays and crossover points for correction.
@@ZReviews I am all in when they make a HTPC with full support for ATMOS / DTS:X and PCI cards with SPDIF outs or swap for analog XLR cards.
If you'd like, I have a few fairly new Marantz mm8077 7 channel powered amps that I'll sell you for under half what they cost new. That way you'll have a balanced and an unbalanced amp for running the higher-end AV processors? That only gives you 14 channels, but it's better than none...lol.