I am part of a church in NZ that had to leave the NZ Diocese after we did the same thing a few years ago. We had to leave our buildings behind and we now meet in a school staff room. But we still meet! Good is good and we will stay true to His word 👍
Thank God for churches like St Helens. God is Holy and will not tolerate sinful practices among his people. More fall-out to come I fear. Thanks Brett.
Did he though? Pretty sure He unleashed plagues and so much more. If you're speaking of America, indentured servitude is entirely different so you may want to do proper research as to be properly informed when you enter I to a dialogue with someone who is educated in such things.
@@messiahspeople Hebrew Priests wore robes. I wouldn't call them dresses - that's just rude. There is nothing wrong with tradition. The order of Bishops, Priests and Deacons is entirely biblical....
For those who have not visited St Helen's Bishopsgate in the City of London, I can highly recommend it. This is a very historic church built in the early 13th Century and has survived intact, including avoiding the Great Fire of 1666 and the Blitz in 1941/42. It was the frequented church of William Shakespeare. I also fully support the Rector of St Helen's in his current stand, and hope that the General Synod comes to its senses later this year and rejects the ludicrous proposals currently supported by the House of Bishops.
God doesn't dwell in temples. church buildings, made by the hands of men, but in the hearts and lives of those who follow Jesus Christ and are obedient to the entire word of God.
These are difficult times for those of us who are orthodox, bible based, anglican Christians. Our church here in Massachusetts (United States) found ourselves in the same position within the episcopal church. Our parish decided to leave the episcopal church and are now an Anglican Church within the ACNA. The challenges were many but have been met and overcome. My prayers go out to the many faithful who are pondering what course to follow.
@Jeffrey Dick “Roman” Catholicism was a term coined in Elizabethan England and is not a term generally used by Catholics except in so far as we probably use the “RomanRite” as opposed to Mozarabic, ambrosian or one of the eastern rites. Catholicism by definition includes communion with the successor of Peter!
I am not part of the C of E. But we are praying for our faithful brethren who are true to the word of God. May the Lord honour your faithfulness, provide and protect you.
I am from the Roman Catholic tradition and it brakes my heart to see how the Anglican Church has been tearing itself apart for years now. I pray that sanity rules the day and the woke are turned out and the Anglican Church with all its cultural treasures survives this satanic assault. God bless and goodwill to you.
@@RevBrettMurphy the Catholic Faith cannot succumb to the same. It’s protected by its own magisterium and if a Pope were ever to contradict teachings of previous popes and tradition under Canon Law he would cease to be a) Catholic and b) Pope incurring automatic excommunication for formal heresy. You should consider becoming a Catholic priest and joining the One Ark of Salvation. The rafts are all being exposed by the storm now. God Bless Reverend
With the so called Archbishop of Canterbury making decisions who has already sold his soul to the devil and putting his ways with humans and not God. He is a disgrace and I will be moving on if I have to.
Don’t feel sorry for compromised Anglican Church. This schism will highlight to the general public the true meaning of salvation through faith and grace.
I'm not an Anglican, but this happened some years ago in the church of Scotland- ministers do not have to conduct same sex ceremonies but they can apply to do so. Many evangelical bible believing churches went their own way and some ministers stood their ground. I'm praying for the church of England, and yes, Jesus is building his church! Blessings.
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves". We were told that there will be a great falling away from the true gospel in the last days. These actions of the false church must come to pass.🙏
As a Christian who has chosen to worship, and serve our God in the Bapist Church, I pray for my brothers and sisters in Christ, who are going through this difficult time of sifting by the Lord our God. 🙏🏻 Stand strong.
As a convert from Anglicanism to the Catholic Church I still have a love of the church that nurtured my faith. In this current crisis I feel a special bond with you, especially since the Catholic papacy is taking a similar path on these issues, leaving many faithful confused and feeling fatherless. We must unite as a counter-cultural force against this diabolical trend.
Just read the Bible. Pray for understanding. Read Hebrews 8, 9 and 10. 1 Tim 4:1,2. Christ's work is finished, just as He said. No more 'priesthood.' Listen to sound teaching, Dr Martin Lloyd Jones, C.H. Spurgeon, John McArthur, David Wilkerson, Carter Conlan, etc. Google, Answers in Genesis. Get to know the Christ of the Word: He is the Word Incarnate. He only has His sheep. God bless you.
@@stevew1669 the Pope can’t change Catholic doctrine and he would face a lot of opposition if he tried. Recently he stated that although homosexuality is not unlawful. It is still a sin.
@@RevBrettMurphy You are welcome Sir! By the way, I’ve got to your channel via a Christian brother in the US who sent it here to an Irishman in France. How the Word spreads. I am praying for your Church, your leaders and the folk within. Let’s get the armour of God on! Ian
@@bugler75 Ian if you are available at 9 am UK time, we, Jon, me and any others that may wish to join, are having a fellowship meeting online (the usual platform) this Saturday.
Strange and difficult times, indeed. I'll send prayers for the strength of Rev. Murphy, Rev. Taylor, and all the faithful orthodox of Anglicanism, from the USA.
God bless you brother. I am so pleased that not all anglicans are being compromised by this blatant apostasy. I pray for the small churches the Lord will find a way for them if they stand by His word and do not compromise. Our God is a jealous God and will not tolerate such unfaithfulness. 🙏🙏🙏
Dear Maximilian, read and pray over Hebrews 8,9 and 10; 1 Tim 4:1-2; Google John McArthur sermons on Roman Catholicism. The Only Jesus (and Mary) are in the Word, not in any 'church tradition' or doctrine. God bless you. "It is finished."
BIBLICALLY, NO women and NO homosexuals should EVER be consecrated in any clerical position and NEVER should any blessing or consecration be allowed for ANY homosexual union.
I understand that the Bible says women shouldn't be in positions of church leadership and that it is contrary to the Bible to bless a same-sex sexual relationship but in the original languages it doesn't have any restrictions on men who just find themselves attracted to men. It only refers to those the who take the active and passive sexual roles with other men. The Bible doesn't even have blanket terms for someone's sexual orientation. We need to define our terms clearly in this debate as it is easy to confuse attraction with what the Bible defines as sinful action. Some people will use gay/homosexual in a context purely to refer to a person's basic default attraction rather than implying anything else. In other contexts it can imply associated behaviour. The Bible doesn't rule out miraculous changes to people's attractions but it doesn't promise that all Christians will be freed of every illness, burden and struggle or temptation so why should a Christian man who still has same-sex attractions be treated differently to other naturally imperfect Christian men whom Christ died for?
As an orthodox RC you have my prayers Brett especially during this Lenten period, please remember us in your prayer too as we face this same issue and some of our leaders want to pretend black is white and Scripture doesn't really mean what it says
Study the Bible. Get to know the real Jesus. Study Hebrews 8,9 and 10. 1 Tim 4:1,2. Listen to sound Biblical preaching. Ask the Lord to lead you in to His truth by His Spirit. God bless you
@@user-re2ey4ti4v Not sure if this is a bit of a Protestant swipe at us 'superstitious ' RCs,but anyway I already do - in Greek.I really think that believing Christians need to unite together against our common foe,May the Lord bless you too
@@user-re2ey4ti4v study with BSF ! Notes in audio and lecture in audio and we have questions t do using references it’s my 17 year ! And I loved it . Get to know Jesus personally and be saved only God gives the Holy Spirit
Thanks Fr Brett, especially for your concluding thoughts, as I am torn between remaining with the CofE and doing my best to continue to love and guide the flock but in the knowledge that the Church as an institution is going against God's very word, or do I leave happy in the knowledge that I have left a corrupt institution but unhappy in the knowledge that I have left a congregation at the mercy of deceivers, a congregation still very much in need of the true word of God. It's a tough decision that we are all facing! Keep up the good work. Thanks.
There is only one Church. The Lord Jesus Christ knows His sheep. "Are you with us or with them?" "No. But I am the Captain of the hosts of the LORD. Take your shoes off, for the ground on which you stand is holy ground." "And Moses went outside the camp and spake with the LORD face to face as unto a friend." The Glory of the LORD hovered over Moses'' tent and that became the tabernacle. (The Glory had departed from the camp.) "Ye are the temple of the Living God. . ."
I have friends who belong to a garrison church which is CofE who had a vicar who claimed to be an atheist. He was supplied through the Army Chaplain Corps. I'm still scratching my head over how someone can perform a liturgy with no belief in God. I Ave been Orthodox for 24 years now and when I look back on this church and other mainline Protestant churches it's like going back to the town you grew up in to find everything has been torn down
But there are good Protestant churches. The official structures are often corrupt, but Anglicanism is seeing remarkable growth in parts of Africa. These are times when we need courage to stand for Jesus Christ
Thanks for your prayers! St Helens attendee here and totally agree about being better off with the Lord than in a nice building. As someone said, it's just a rain shelter. And joining in your prayers for more vulnerable churches (at least by earthly standards). I think organisations like ReNew are thinking about ways to support these churches as well.
Small correction: we were already in a state of broken partnership with the Bishop of London (I think since the start of LLF) and so I think this will result in further distancing (though exactly what this will look like I don't know)
Thanks for your comment and your correction I receive it with humility, sorry I was mistaken. I'm praying for you and your church family, may God strengthen and defend you against all the assaults of the evil one.
@@Boysermusic hi! You are most welcome! Personally I go to the 6pm service on a sunday (mostly for students and young workers). You can find out more about the different services on the St Helens Bishopsgate website.
I was raised in the CoE at a beautiful little church that has now sadly been sold off. In my mid teens i fell away as young people sometimes do and now over the last year i began reading the gospel and returned to the faith and its just so sad to see what has happened whilst ive been away for these 25 years , my local church where i live is lead by women and infected with woke ideology so sadly im not attending church which troubles me greatly as i yearn to be part of a community serving the Lord as i remember so fondly from my childhood. I just keep praying for the Lords guidance.
Pray to the Lord to be planted in a church that adheres to the True word of God. I have been in the faith for 2 years using online media like TH-cam and zoom before finding a Church
I knew this was going to happen as soon as welby said God might be wrong on gender, I thought to add take away or alter anything in the scriptures was absolutely sinful, its destroyed itself as many will leave the churches seeing them as sinful places did they consider the faith of those who abide by the bible whilst making their choice.
How he DARES to say God is wrong is unbelievable disrespectful to my God and me. God IS THE WORD. I am deeply offended by his words. I wrote to the Archbishop of Canterbury explaining how I felt about his hypocrisy and all he said was ‘I will pray for you’!!!! I do not need his prays as I am true to God and the bible but gosh does he need ours. Sack him!!!!
Many Christians in many denominations are returning to more traditional practices. When the world is going insane we must hold onto the ROCK OF FAITH that helps us determine how to live our lives.
When I lived in England I was a member of the C of E , and was active in Evangelical churches in the East of London ..I am now with a missionary organisation in France , but am 100 % behind you in your battle against the openly blatent apostasy of the Anglican church ..
Thank you Brett for your insightful and timely updates. I've just found your channel and I'm enjoying your content and the manner in which it's delivered. Ha e you considered doing daily encouragements and prayers for your followers. We're living in very troublesome and dark times, it would be lovely to have you connect us all through prayers and scripture to help keep us on the right track and moving forward. God's blessings on you dear brother and keep up the good work.🙏🤗
Thanks for following my channel! I'm so thankful that you're here and I really appreciate your comment. Yes I have thought about doing a devotional or prayer time...this is all very embryonic and the interactions my channel is getting have come as a huge surprise. I work full time as a priest so I find juggling that and TH-cam a bit tricky. I'm trying to release one long-form monologue and one short per week at minimum, but I might increase that at some point. Thanks for your suggestions and kind words may God bless and prosper you.
As a traditional Catholic I commend the Anglican Church for it's stand for the principles of the Bible. My Church is going through a worse process thanks to it's Head in Rome! I pray that your faithful will be steadfast and ask in turn for your prayers for my beloved Church. May the Good Lord keep us strong in our Faith.
May the Lord be with you and direct your heart. Maybe now is the time to stand up against the apostasy in the Catholic Church. In so many ways the Catholic Church has been adulteress for many, many years. The worship of mother Mary is a sin and whilst I love you brother and feel your pain, ALWAYS remain truthful to the word of God. Jesus is the word of God and the bible is our instruction book for life. May the Holy Spirit direct you and help you love God more than you love your church. Blessings in Jesus name.
I’m a RC and I respect the Pope. But I am concerned. I hope many of these good Christians will join my church. The Catholic Church has a promise from Jesus that the gates of hell will never prevail against it. This doesn’t mean there won’t be some misguided Catholics - after all Jesus had 12 apostles and one of these was rotten.
@@johnfrancis4401 And you are quite correct to love and honour even the lowliest. BUT do not do as they do! Follow Gods word, stand up for righteousness and Gods glory, even if it means losing your church, your son, your daughter and so on… Love God first with all your heart, mind and soul. Check you are truly in the faith. God made that promise to the whole church, not just catholics and if they do not adhere to Gods standards, then stand firm and please God. The Pope will not gain you salvation only Jesus can do that. We must all repent, be born again and put our trust in Jesus! Not any man, organisation or church. God bless and Maranatha.
I met a friend a few years ago who's husband had to leave the Church of England church here in NZ because of the way it was going. He said he would never risk compromising his faith again by being in payed ministry. So sad. How did we get to this place?
God bless that man for his faithfulness to Christ. Yes I know many NZ Anglicans who have had to depart. Nelson diocese is the only sound one left in NZ and I pray for them often. I think we ended up here by being very slack on church discipline and allowing minor changes over many years....a death by a thousand cuts so to speak.
I attended St Helen's many years ago when I worked in London, and benefited greatly from Dick Lucas' ministry. I am glad that under William Taylor the church is not just continuing the practice of bible teaching but now making a much needed stand for righteousness and truth. The issue forcing this decision is not a secondary doctrine but whether Jesus is actually Lord or whether the god of this world is, with his temptation to worldly popularity and acclaim ("all these things I will give you if ..."). I really feel for those who are going to have to make difficult and irreversible decisions in the near future.
Hi Ken I to attended St Helen's Tuesday lunch time with Dick Lucas I can remember the day they rededicated St Helen's after it was damaged by the Baltic exchange I R A bomb. He sock it to them the Bishops of London and other clergyman it was long the lines of why the pews where largely empty puerile rubbish coming out of the pulpit. I also for a while had the good pleasure of listening to William Taylor. I miss very much not having the opportunity of getting there as I'm out here in Essex. also getting on in years so long retired now.
@@grahamebell2879 I attended Tuesdays in the mid 70's and briefly again in the mid 80's. I was an avid listener of the cassette tapes (remember those 😃 ) taking notes on many of them. The greatest benefit was learning _how_ to study the bible, not seeing it as contextless self-contained verses but logical argument.
Changing Scripture is dangerous. Once you eliminate one sin it leaves to many believing that other sins will be eliminated. Is there any movement on adultery? Stealing? Lust?
Indeed if they can revise one part of the bible why not all of it? Most revisionists I speak to simply don't care about what Scripture says, they just enjoy the religious dress ups.
@@RevBrettMurphy I can't even suggest you come out of the CofE and meet in a community church such as the one I go to, because Pastors in many of these don't seem clear.come out of the CofE and meet in a community church such as the one I go to, because Pastors in many of these don't seem clear.
I left the Church of England when the Episcopal Church ordained women. Women bishops and priests and deacons should have been a line in the sand decades ago.
Those leading the CofE at the head aren’t fit for office…in my opinion, the Archbishops of Canterbury and York, along with the Bishop of London, should be removed from office immediately, along with many of the House of Bishops…!!
Australia are so much further down the toilet than our UK counterparts. I left the C of E here in Australia 4 years ago when they started referring to the Holy Spirit as "she"
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” Ref: kjb 2 Timothy 3:16. I had a good night's sleep yesterday when I heard the news. How heartfelt that people in high positions within the church of England still hold to God's authority. I know that I should not feel joyful, but even this small window of light and hope is reassuring. I go through ups and down stages. I can not work out that sin can be blessed. It does not make sense. I pray and hope that the heads of the CoE will have a change of heart and show wisdom and courage. That Jesus Christ did not come to call the righteous but for sinners to repentance. We have a far better world to come and all are welcome.
Shouldn’t the Rainbow Gospel devotees, including the Archbishop , be the ones to leave the cathedrals and churches ? They need to be in the tin sheds .
It's so strange how, I think without exception, apostasy always wants to hijack the existing church. I can say with confidence that if I were a pastor and found myself fundamentally at odds with my church, I would either find or begin a new one. The complete absence of integrity, in their words and in their actions, tells me this is about powers and principalities, not the human intellect.
Well said Brother, from your American Christian brother high up in the mountains in dying California. Fight on, in love, dedication, and fear of our Lord, who gave Himself for us.
I left the C of E when my fiancé, who had been baptized as an infant and confirmed at age twelve but had lived a totally reprobate life, became born again at twenty two. He decided his first baptism was a farce and was baptized as a believer but his vicar, when he heard about it and my fiancé’s completely changed life, threw him out of the church.
if they leave, where will they meet? will they hang onto the C/E-owned church building? (& pay rent?) or leave it empty, take all their paperwork & bought equipment, & move into the empty run-down factory down the road & open for business to the needy in the neighbourhood? why be shackled to a building that your parents & grandparents built, maintained, loved (worshipped) if Jesus the King has collected His Menorah (Rev.2) & walked out? Follow Him, & His cloud of glory ... (the local imams will probably buy the church building when the diocese puts it up for sale ... making pots of money!!)
Amen, Reverand Murphy. The Church is in Jesus's hands, not man's. Although I have one foot in the Roman Church (which also has corrupt bishops and apostates) and the other in the Anglican Church (my Wife is Anglican). The Anglican Orthodox Church will not die.
Anglican orthodox is flourishing in the global south John. Whilst the church in the liberal west is dying, Anglicanism is growing amongst the poor of Africa, Asia and Latin America. So you're right, it won't die out. There are 18 million Anglicans in Nigeria alone.
@@WHU63 The same growth is seen in the GAFCON churches in North America...the ACNA is growing exponentially whilst the heretical TEC is dying out. Glory to God!
@@RevBrettMurphy My family and myself are Church of Ireland Brett. We're watching the CoE situation with interest. By and large the CoI in N Ireland tends to be evangelical. I pray that it stays that way, because when people begin to ignore the authority of the Bible, cracks begin to appear. I fear that we are in the times when men ignore truth and turn aside to myths.
Thank you, Brett, for your courage and faithfulness. I am a Baptists, and we are facing a similar challenge at the moment. We are considering moving to the FIEC at the moment.
I am currently coming into Christianity (am considering baptism). I initially thought of becoming Anglican because that’s what both my parents were and I’ve had good experiences at my local Anglican churches, but the decline in the church and this kind of political agenda is making me think again, whether in fact I should join the Roman Catholics. Anyone else feel the same?
The church that Jesus founded is like a beautiful tree. Strong and with deep roots. The English Church was a branch of that church but then it cut itself off from the tree. For some period of time the branch will continue to grow and even appear like it is alive but will slowly start to die. What we are seeing now is the physical culmination of that separation. We are seeing the spiritual destruction of the the Anglican Church. There is only one true church and it wasn’t invented by the Tyrant King Henry VIII to consolidate his insatiable need for power, money, property and animalistic need to bed and kill his many wives that failed to provide an heir. Sorry to say it, but truth can be painful. Find a Catholic Church near you and come home.
@@ianbetts4435 Why do you think it would be a mistake to be a Catholic? On your point I must admit I do like the baptists in their own sort of way. I’ve tried a few of their churches and they are very welcoming.
@@Codestud The most crucial problem with the Roman Catholic Church is its belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvation. The Bible clearly and consistently states that receiving Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, grants salvation
Other churches are just letting this heresy sneak in and doing nothing to correct it. I don’t know which is worse: official changes or gradual gaslighting!
The CofE experienced both, a gradual introduction of doctrinal changes and constant infiltration by revisionists, culminating in this apostasy. Other churches be warned! Flee from feminist, inclusive, revisionist heresies and do not let them take root.
I am in the diocese of Adelaide South Austalia and have left my Anglican church over the appointment of a female priest.What you are experiencing in the C of E in the the UK will inevitably follow us here and I've decided to make the decisive cut now rather than experience the slow emergence of apostacy.I really feel for the biblical faithful C of E Anglicans and I am praying for you.I am now worshipping at a Baptist church but am grieving for lost friends and the liturgy.As someone below has commented I will become a Prayer Book enamoured Baptist.
Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “’Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; Revelation 18;4
Buildings are only bricks and mortar. To cling to buildings and not the truth is a terrible choice to make. Our congregation walked away from everything and God has supplied all our needs and more. Best move ever. We left the heretical Uniting Church in Australia.
@@RevBrettMurphy All my favourite teachers. Anyone who read them will not stray from the Inerrant Word of God! Thank you for keeping us informed about what is happening in the Church of England.
If the St. Helen's congregation secedes from the C of E and are displaced from their building, wouldn't it be BRILLIANT if they could build a new church building right next to their old one? Then let the bishop of London watch as throngs stream into the new church, while the C of E's church building sits an empty shell. "......but I can dream, can't I?" the old song went.
I left the CoE along with many others when our liberal female Vicar revealed her true colours. A church that once had 2 services on a Sunday morning is but a shadow of its former self. Too many wolves in sheep’s clothing. In one respect what is happening is very sad but I am a firm believer in the providence of God and His purposes for His Sheep will not be thwarted. God bless you and keep you.
God bless you for making a stand. Far too many just sit in the pews and turn a blind eye to heresy preferring comfort over truth. Liberals always empty churches, I hear that story over and over....yet the CofE hasn't heeded the warning and instead continues to pump revisionist clergy into the parish system.
Congregations like St Helens and others may in due course loose their beautiful church buildings which is sad especially because for many people these places feel like a second home. However, a building is just a building and these communities are far more than a building. There is open hostility towards Evangelical Christians in the COE. The leadership has heard what the vast majority of Anglicans have been saying. They don't care. At this point it's just like a marriage that has irretrievably broken down. People like Mullaly, Cotrell and Welby don't seem to care about the damage they have done. To even speak now of an Anglican Communion seems nonsense.
You are right. Sadly, too right. We in England idolise our beautiful buildings (renovated, too) just as explained so well, in the article entitled the golden cow/calf on the Anglican Futures website.
Praise God though i am from another denomination, i always agree with what yu have said, an partially connected to this because their is a woman whom is Bishop, i hold veiw that there should no be woman priests an Bishops.!!!!!
Please can we have an UPDATE on the new deanery. Is the London Diocese feeling the pinch now that they've lost the contributions of evangelical churches????
Ownership of one's parish Church is covered in an article in the Church Times 2nd March 2023. Church ownership stays....uncertain. I quote 'The threat to shift the historic ownership of Englands 16,000 churches from parishes to dioceses has been lifted after a working group decided it would cause too much trouble.' It was decided it would be better to leave ownership of churches in the parishes.
How is what St. Helen's is doing different from what the Church of England Evangelical Council is proposing? It sounds very similar, Evangelical churches severing ties with revisionist bishops without formally leaving the CofE. The only difference I see is that St. Helen's is doing this on a congregational level, and CEEC wants to take it to the provincial level.
That's a fair question. I suppose that St. Helen's tone is more forthright and bold. Rev Taylor took no prisoners in his video, whereas CEEC have felt far more conciliatory and weak. Also the CEEC didn't mention GAFCON or alternative oversight.
@@jamesaustin1988 Yes I think that's the aim. Getting the CofE hierarchy to agree to such a radical restructuring is a whole different kettle of fish. My gut says it will never happen.
@@RevBrettMurphy Surely a clean separation, negotiated with the Bishop of the Diocese, is the best way forward - rather than prolonged and expensive court battles....
I think basically because there have been pockets of biblical faith where amazing gospel work was done. But now the whole denomination has crossed a red line for many biblical Anglicans. I agree though the compromises began long ago...
I would find it really helpful to have set out the scriptural basis for the (I can't properly say 'orthodox' but I hope you know what I mean) position on these issues, as people tend to refer to scripture without giving 'citations' (common law lawyers and scientists use 'citations' to show the basis for their case). Clearly, the hierarchy's position is 'novel' and they never seem to refer to scripture at all, but it would be nice to see the basis for the positions, even if in outline.
It's years since I went to St. Helen's … in fact I'm talking Dick Lucas era, so that's quite a while! I didn't agree with Dick's stance on Reformed theology but that aside he was someone who taught scripture faithfully! I strongly support William Taylor in his stance on the biblical aspect of marriage, not that my support will make much of a difference, but the church as a whole needs those who will stand up and be counted and William Taylor is someone who needs all the support he can get! I pray the The Lord will continue to bless St. Helens as they stay firm on the word of God!
In my first job (nearly 60 years ago) I used to go to St Helen’s Bishopsgate for lunch. Even then the ministry there was amazing with the vast crowd who went in response to its weekday pastoral ministry to City workers within The Square Mile. I shall watch it with interest. It’s worth saying that the decline we’re all seeing in the C of E has been building slowly since as far back as the 19th century at least! It’s not a new phenomenon but shows that Anglicans have been insufficiently vigilant hitherto and have permitted the cancer to spread and thrive.
I’m getting nervous because I love Anglicanism but I’m scared my church is falling apart. The only other church near me is a Catholic one and I’m scared I might have to convert if the COE situation gets much worse
I am part of a church in NZ that had to leave the NZ Diocese after we did the same thing a few years ago. We had to leave our buildings behind and we now meet in a school staff room. But we still meet! Good is good and we will stay true to His word 👍
Praying for God to bless your faithfulness.
That is so refreshing to hear as I really wasn’t sure where I was going. !Thank you.
God bless you my friends.
You will be blessed.
Good for you
Beware of false prophets , Welby and the bishops have showed themselves. God is the ultimate authority that I answer to.
Thank God for churches like St Helens. God is Holy and will not tolerate sinful practices among his people. More fall-out to come I fear. Thanks Brett.
But he will tolerate slavery, so sad.
Did he though? Pretty sure He unleashed plagues and so much more. If you're speaking of America, indentured servitude is entirely different so you may want to do proper research as to be properly informed when you enter I to a dialogue with someone who is educated in such things.
@daividthorpe516 what your seeing isn't just sinful its blasphemous and an Abomination . The Lord of host will repay.
@@tony_w839?
Women bishops?
The COE became biblically apostate on this ratification
The rest is inevitable
Yes, spot on.
Yes, I am afraid that was the thin end of the wedge.
What's biblical about male bishops, or the entire unbiblical C of E hierarchy. Men in dresses loving titles.
It all went wrong in 1999 when the vote for Women priests came and many clergy left the Church then and now look at the mess we are in.
@@messiahspeople Hebrew Priests wore robes. I wouldn't call them dresses - that's just rude. There is nothing wrong with tradition. The order of Bishops, Priests and Deacons is entirely biblical....
I pray for all Anglicans who hold fast to the Gospel and do not bow to the zeitgeist.
Thankyou brother we need all the prayers we can get , God bless you.
Ameen
It may look like it and sometimes is, but the matter is more than zeitgeist and Christians need to know it.
A woman shouldn't be a 'bishop'
I agree with your opinion, it’s simply not biblical
Exactly this!
Show me in the Bible where men wearing dresses, loving titles, and having a hierarchy is biblical?
Exactly. This is a major part of the problem. Revisionists have perverted the church.
@@messiahspeople Practically everywhere.
For those who have not visited St Helen's Bishopsgate in the City of London, I can highly recommend it. This is a very historic church built in the early 13th Century and has survived intact, including avoiding the Great Fire of 1666 and the Blitz in 1941/42. It was the frequented church of William Shakespeare. I also fully support the Rector of St Helen's in his current stand, and hope that the General Synod comes to its senses later this year and rejects the ludicrous proposals currently supported by the House of Bishops.
Jesus died for His sheep, not for historical buildings. Solomon's temple was spectacular. Not a stone remains . . . "But you are living stones. . ."
It should be returned to the Catholic Church... it's stolen property.
@@user-re2ey4ti4v The post is in praise and support of the community as much as the building.
Thank you I was just wondering where it was. 🙏
If the Church was built in the thirteenth century then it was originally a Catholic church.
God doesn't dwell in temples. church buildings, made by the hands of men, but in the hearts and lives of those who follow Jesus Christ and are obedient to the entire word of God.
Amen!
But we love our church days as a way of getting together and having faith together.
@@kathleenfederl5121 But Faith in what . It cannot include homosexual practise acceptance.
"Many of the elect will become decieved".
Yes….with the accent on ‘entire’.
These are difficult times for those of us who are orthodox, bible based, anglican Christians. Our church here in Massachusetts (United States) found ourselves in the same position within the episcopal church. Our parish decided to leave the episcopal church and are now an Anglican Church within the ACNA. The challenges were many but have been met and overcome. My prayers go out to the many faithful who are pondering what course to follow.
I don’t understand. What do you mean orthodox? Are you joining the eastern churches?
@@Basaljet It means sound in doctrine & in line with the word of God - Biblical..nothing to do with the Eastern Churches
@@garethifan1034 ok why are they called orthodox churches then?
@Jeffrey Dick “Roman” Catholicism was a term coined in Elizabethan England and is not a term generally used by Catholics except in so far as we probably use the “RomanRite” as opposed to Mozarabic, ambrosian or one of the eastern rites. Catholicism by definition includes communion with the successor of Peter!
@Jeffrey Dick mystery this comment appears in notifications but not in comments anyway up the Catholics and the Orthodox and god help the Anglicans
I am not part of the
C of E. But we are praying for our faithful brethren who are true to the word of God.
May the Lord honour your faithfulness, provide and protect you.
I am from the Roman Catholic tradition and it brakes my heart to see how the Anglican Church has been tearing itself apart for years now. I pray that sanity rules the day and the woke are turned out and the Anglican Church with all its cultural treasures survives this satanic assault. God bless and goodwill to you.
Thank you for your prayers. I pray often for the RC church that it will not succumb to the same woke assaults. God bless you.
@@RevBrettMurphy the Catholic Faith cannot succumb to the same. It’s protected by its own magisterium and if a Pope were ever to contradict teachings of previous popes and tradition under Canon Law he would cease to be a) Catholic and b) Pope incurring automatic excommunication for formal heresy. You should consider becoming a Catholic priest and joining the One Ark of Salvation. The rafts are all being exposed by the storm now.
God Bless Reverend
With the so called Archbishop of Canterbury making decisions who has already sold his soul to the devil and putting his ways with humans and not God. He is a disgrace and I will be moving on if I have to.
Don’t feel sorry for compromised Anglican Church. This schism will highlight to the general public the true meaning of salvation through faith and grace.
Please acquaint yourself with the definition of ‘woke’. Thank you.
I'm not an Anglican, but this happened some years ago in the church of Scotland- ministers do not have to conduct same sex ceremonies but they can apply to do so. Many evangelical bible believing churches went their own way and some ministers stood their ground. I'm praying for the church of England, and yes, Jesus is building his church! Blessings.
Episcopalians did the same . The option to officiate is at a minister's discretion .
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves". We were told that there will be a great falling away from the true gospel in the last days. These actions of the false church must come to pass.🙏
Can the institution reform itself ?
As a Christian who has chosen to worship, and serve our God in the Bapist Church, I pray for my brothers and sisters in Christ, who are going through this difficult time of sifting by the Lord our God.
🙏🏻 Stand strong.
Thank you for standing on the Word, not mans traditions. Love from Victoria, Canada.
As a Catholic I pray for you , May Jesus be with you
As a convert from Anglicanism to the Catholic Church I still have a love of the church that nurtured my faith. In this current crisis I feel a special bond with you, especially since the Catholic papacy is taking a similar path on these issues, leaving many faithful confused and feeling fatherless. We must unite as a counter-cultural force against this diabolical trend.
Just read the Bible. Pray for understanding. Read Hebrews 8, 9 and 10. 1 Tim 4:1,2. Christ's work is finished, just as He said. No more 'priesthood.' Listen to sound teaching, Dr Martin Lloyd Jones, C.H. Spurgeon, John McArthur, David Wilkerson, Carter Conlan, etc. Google, Answers in Genesis. Get to know the Christ of the Word: He is the Word Incarnate. He only has His sheep. God bless you.
@@stevew1669 the Pope can’t change Catholic doctrine and he would face a lot of opposition if he tried. Recently he stated that although homosexuality is not unlawful. It is still a sin.
God Bless you all who are taking this stand for Christ
This is spiritual warfare. The Church of England is under immense attack.
I pray for you all is this difficult time.
A Christian (Presbyterian)
Ian
Correct, we are wrestling against the powers or spiritual darkness. Thanks for your prayers, God bless you.
@@RevBrettMurphy You are welcome Sir!
By the way, I’ve got to your channel via a Christian brother in the US who sent it here to an Irishman in France. How the Word spreads.
I am praying for your Church, your leaders and the folk within.
Let’s get the armour of God on!
Ian
@@bugler75 Ian 😀👋🏻 Hello brother
@@MichaelAMartin777 Hello brother Michael 😊✝️❤️🙏
@@bugler75 Ian if you are available at 9 am UK time, we, Jon, me and any others that may wish to join, are having a fellowship meeting online (the usual platform) this Saturday.
Strange and difficult times, indeed. I'll send prayers for the strength of Rev. Murphy, Rev. Taylor, and all the faithful orthodox of Anglicanism, from the USA.
God bless you brother. I am so pleased that not all anglicans are being compromised by this blatant apostasy. I pray for the small churches the Lord will find a way for them if they stand by His word and do not compromise. Our God is a jealous God and will not tolerate such unfaithfulness. 🙏🙏🙏
As a Catholic, I watch your videos with passion. God bless!
Awesome! Thank you!
Dear Maximilian, read and pray over Hebrews 8,9 and 10; 1 Tim 4:1-2; Google John McArthur sermons on Roman Catholicism. The Only Jesus (and Mary) are in the Word, not in any 'church tradition' or doctrine. God bless you. "It is finished."
@@RevBrettMurphy brother do you believe Roman Catholics who hold to the official Roman Catholic doctrine of salvation are Christians ?
BIBLICALLY, NO women and NO homosexuals should EVER be consecrated in any clerical position and NEVER should any blessing or consecration be allowed for ANY homosexual union.
I understand that the Bible says women shouldn't be in positions of church leadership and that it is contrary to the Bible to bless a same-sex sexual relationship but in the original languages it doesn't have any restrictions on men who just find themselves attracted to men. It only refers to those the who take the active and passive sexual roles with other men. The Bible doesn't even have blanket terms for someone's sexual orientation. We need to define our terms clearly in this debate as it is easy to confuse attraction with what the Bible defines as sinful action. Some people will use gay/homosexual in a context purely to refer to a person's basic default attraction rather than implying anything else. In other contexts it can imply associated behaviour. The Bible doesn't rule out miraculous changes to people's attractions but it doesn't promise that all Christians will be freed of every illness, burden and struggle or temptation so why should a Christian man who still has same-sex attractions be treated differently to other naturally imperfect Christian men whom Christ died for?
As an orthodox RC you have my prayers Brett especially during this Lenten period, please remember us in your prayer too as we face this same issue and some of our leaders want to pretend black is white and Scripture doesn't really mean what it says
Study the Bible. Get to know the real Jesus. Study Hebrews 8,9 and 10. 1 Tim 4:1,2. Listen to sound Biblical preaching. Ask the Lord to lead you in to His truth by His Spirit. God bless you
@@user-re2ey4ti4v Not sure if this is a bit of a Protestant swipe at us 'superstitious ' RCs,but anyway I already do - in Greek.I really think that believing Christians need to unite together against our common foe,May the Lord bless you too
@@user-re2ey4ti4v study with BSF ! Notes in audio and lecture in audio and we have questions t do using references it’s my 17 year ! And I loved it . Get to know Jesus personally and be saved only God gives the Holy Spirit
Me too. ✡️✝️🙏🇨🇦😘
For my Anglican brothers in England, you’ll be in my prayers
- a prayerbook enamored Baptist
Thanks Fr Brett, especially for your concluding thoughts, as I am torn between remaining with the CofE and doing my best to continue to love and guide the flock but in the knowledge that the Church as an institution is going against God's very word, or do I leave happy in the knowledge that I have left a corrupt institution but unhappy in the knowledge that I have left a congregation at the mercy of deceivers, a congregation still very much in need of the true word of God. It's a tough decision that we are all facing! Keep up the good work. Thanks.
Praying for you brother! Its a horrible choice and I relate to your comments totally. God have mercy on us all and may the Lord be our guide.
This is exactly my dilemma.
There is only one Church. The Lord Jesus Christ knows His sheep.
"Are you with us or with them?"
"No. But I am the Captain of the hosts of the LORD. Take your shoes off, for the ground on which you stand is holy ground."
"And Moses went outside the camp and spake with the LORD face to face as unto a friend."
The Glory of the LORD hovered over Moses'' tent and that became the tabernacle. (The Glory had departed from the camp.)
"Ye are the temple of the Living God. . ."
There is no choice.
You lead where your faith says to go.
Being a shepherd leading a flock down a false path deserves damnation.
you will not have left a congregation to the mercy of deceivers. you have left those who are willing to go apostate with those who already have.
I have friends who belong to a garrison church which is CofE who had a vicar who claimed to be an atheist. He was supplied through the Army Chaplain Corps. I'm still scratching my head over how someone can perform a liturgy with no belief in God. I Ave been Orthodox for 24 years now and when I look back on this church and other mainline Protestant churches it's like going back to the town you grew up in to find everything has been torn down
But there are good Protestant churches. The official structures are often corrupt, but Anglicanism is seeing remarkable growth in parts of Africa. These are times when we need courage to stand for Jesus Christ
@@chrisowen3111 True story. I have seen it myself in Kenya and Uganda.
At least your vicar was upfront about being an atheist!
.... as if one's home town has been looted , pillaged & sacked by vandals .
Thanks for your prayers! St Helens attendee here and totally agree about being better off with the Lord than in a nice building. As someone said, it's just a rain shelter.
And joining in your prayers for more vulnerable churches (at least by earthly standards). I think organisations like ReNew are thinking about ways to support these churches as well.
Small correction: we were already in a state of broken partnership with the Bishop of London (I think since the start of LLF) and so I think this will result in further distancing (though exactly what this will look like I don't know)
Thanks for your comment and your correction I receive it with humility, sorry I was mistaken. I'm praying for you and your church family, may God strengthen and defend you against all the assaults of the evil one.
Hello. I live very near to St Helens Bishopsgate and would like to integrate into your Christian fellowship. What can I do to attend?
@@Boysermusic hi! You are most welcome! Personally I go to the 6pm service on a sunday (mostly for students and young workers). You can find out more about the different services on the St Helens Bishopsgate website.
I worship at a congregational church (puritans) thankfully they are faithful to scripture.
I was raised in the CoE at a beautiful little church that has now sadly been sold off. In my mid teens i fell away as young people sometimes do and now over the last year i began reading the gospel and returned to the faith and its just so sad to see what has happened whilst ive been away for these 25 years , my local church where i live is lead by women and infected with woke ideology so sadly im not attending church which troubles me greatly as i yearn to be part of a community serving the Lord as i remember so fondly from my childhood. I just keep praying for the Lords guidance.
I feel your grief and please be assured you are in my prayers.
@@RevBrettMurphy Thankyou Reverend Murphy , God bless you.
Pray to the Lord to be planted in a church that adheres to the True word of God. I have been in the faith for 2 years using online media like TH-cam and zoom before finding a Church
Please acquaint yourself with the definition of the word woke.
@@gleannmhuire i already have.
Best part 2:01. Love it when heretics are called out for celebrating that which God hates! Keep up the good work Father. Never back down!
I knew this was going to happen as soon as welby said God might be wrong on gender, I thought to add take away or alter anything in the scriptures was absolutely sinful, its destroyed itself as many will leave the churches seeing them as sinful places did they consider the faith of those who abide by the bible whilst making their choice.
How he DARES to say God is wrong is unbelievable disrespectful to my God and me.
God IS THE WORD. I am deeply offended by his words.
I wrote to the Archbishop of Canterbury explaining how I felt about his hypocrisy and all he said was ‘I will pray for you’!!!! I do not need his prays as I am true to God and the bible but gosh does he need ours.
Sack him!!!!
“God might be wrong”! Whaaat? Does Welby know something God doesn’t?? 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Many Christians in many denominations are returning to more traditional practices. When the world is going insane we must hold onto the ROCK OF FAITH that helps us determine how to live our lives.
When I lived in England I was a member of the C of E , and was active in Evangelical churches in the East of London ..I am now with a
missionary organisation in France , but am 100 % behind you in your battle against the openly blatent apostasy of the Anglican church ..
Where in France are you? I live near Perpignan.
@@ileanamuntean7338 In Marseille ...
@@simonallchin7436 To far for me. May your ministry be blessed!
Thank you Brett for your insightful and timely updates.
I've just found your channel and I'm enjoying your content and the manner in which it's delivered. Ha e you considered doing daily encouragements and prayers for your followers. We're living in very troublesome and dark times, it would be lovely to have you connect us all through prayers and scripture to help keep us on the right track and moving forward. God's blessings on you dear brother and keep up the good work.🙏🤗
Thanks for following my channel! I'm so thankful that you're here and I really appreciate your comment. Yes I have thought about doing a devotional or prayer time...this is all very embryonic and the interactions my channel is getting have come as a huge surprise. I work full time as a priest so I find juggling that and TH-cam a bit tricky. I'm trying to release one long-form monologue and one short per week at minimum, but I might increase that at some point. Thanks for your suggestions and kind words may God bless and prosper you.
Thank you Rev Murphy for having the courage to bring us the true word of God in these strange times.
As a traditional Catholic I commend the Anglican Church for it's stand for the principles of the Bible. My Church is going through a worse process thanks to it's Head in Rome! I pray that your faithful will be steadfast and ask in turn for your prayers for my beloved Church. May the Good Lord keep us strong in our Faith.
May the Lord be with you and direct your heart. Maybe now is the time to stand up against the apostasy in the Catholic Church. In so many ways the Catholic Church has been adulteress for many, many years. The worship of mother Mary is a sin and whilst I love you brother and feel your pain, ALWAYS remain truthful to the word of God. Jesus is the word of God and the bible is our instruction book for life. May the Holy Spirit direct you and help you love God more than you love your church.
Blessings in Jesus name.
I'm RC too, and I support the trads.
I’m a RC and I respect the Pope. But I am concerned. I hope many of these good Christians will join my church. The Catholic Church has a promise from Jesus that the gates of hell will never prevail against it. This doesn’t mean there won’t be some misguided Catholics - after all Jesus had 12 apostles and one of these was rotten.
@@debbiewareing1178 We do NOT worship Mary. She is a saint. She is a human being. Only God is worshipped.
@@johnfrancis4401
And you are quite correct to love and honour even the lowliest. BUT do not do as they do! Follow Gods word, stand up for righteousness and Gods glory, even if it means losing your church, your son, your daughter and so on…
Love God first with all your heart, mind and soul. Check you are truly in the faith. God made that promise to the whole church, not just catholics and if they do not adhere to Gods standards, then stand firm and please God. The Pope will not gain you salvation only Jesus can do that. We must all repent, be born again and put our trust in Jesus! Not any man, organisation or church.
God bless and Maranatha.
I met a friend a few years ago who's husband had to leave the Church of England church here in NZ because of the way it was going. He said he would never risk compromising his faith again by being in payed ministry. So sad. How did we get to this place?
God bless that man for his faithfulness to Christ. Yes I know many NZ Anglicans who have had to depart. Nelson diocese is the only sound one left in NZ and I pray for them often. I think we ended up here by being very slack on church discipline and allowing minor changes over many years....a death by a thousand cuts so to speak.
They let Satan in
It is watershed moment. I anticipate lots of large ev churches separating. It's time to make a strong stand.
I attended St Helen's many years ago when I worked in London, and benefited greatly from Dick Lucas' ministry.
I am glad that under William Taylor the church is not just continuing the practice of bible teaching but now making a much needed stand for righteousness and truth.
The issue forcing this decision is not a secondary doctrine but whether Jesus is actually Lord or whether the god of this world is, with his temptation to worldly popularity and acclaim ("all these things I will give you if ...").
I really feel for those who are going to have to make difficult and irreversible decisions in the near future.
Hi Ken I to attended St Helen's Tuesday lunch time with Dick Lucas I can remember the day they rededicated St Helen's after it was damaged by the Baltic exchange I R A bomb. He sock it to them the Bishops of London and other clergyman it was long the lines of why the pews where largely empty puerile rubbish coming out of the pulpit. I also for a while had the good pleasure of listening to William Taylor. I miss very much not having the opportunity of getting there as I'm out here in Essex. also getting on in years so long retired now.
@@grahamebell2879 I attended Tuesdays in the mid 70's and briefly again in the mid 80's. I was an avid listener of the cassette tapes (remember those 😃 ) taking notes on many of them.
The greatest benefit was learning _how_ to study the bible, not seeing it as contextless self-contained verses but logical argument.
@@kenbeach5021 that’s sounds very interesting.
Changing Scripture is dangerous. Once you eliminate one sin it leaves to many believing that other sins will be eliminated. Is there any movement on adultery? Stealing? Lust?
Indeed if they can revise one part of the bible why not all of it? Most revisionists I speak to simply don't care about what Scripture says, they just enjoy the religious dress ups.
@@RevBrettMurphy I can't even suggest you come out of the CofE and meet in a community church such as the one I go to, because Pastors in many of these don't seem clear.come out of the CofE and meet in a community church such as the one I go to, because Pastors in many of these don't seem clear.
What is the Church of England going to do with a bunch of empty buildings?
The Body of Christ is not buildings but the people who inhabit them for the purpose of worshipping the living God.
We do indeed live in interesting times. My prayers are with you and all others who stay the course for God. The word of God must prevail.
Judgement begins first at the house of God.
I was TEC and now am ACNA. You all are in my prayers that you will find a path forward and remain faithful.
I left the Church of England when the Episcopal Church ordained women. Women bishops and priests and deacons should have been a line in the sand decades ago.
Those leading the CofE at the head aren’t fit for office…in my opinion, the Archbishops of Canterbury and York, along with the Bishop of London, should be removed from office immediately, along with many of the House of Bishops…!!
In total agreement here in Australia 😊
Australia are so much further down the toilet than our UK counterparts. I left the C of E here in Australia 4 years ago when they started referring to the Holy Spirit as "she"
Am enjoying and energized by your updates.
Thanks for your comment! God bless you
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” Ref: kjb 2 Timothy 3:16.
I had a good night's sleep yesterday when I heard the news. How heartfelt that people in high positions within the church of England still hold to God's authority. I know that I should not feel joyful, but even this small window of light and hope is reassuring. I go through ups and down stages. I can not work out that sin can be blessed. It does not make sense. I pray and hope that the heads of the CoE will have a change of heart and show wisdom and courage. That Jesus Christ did not come to call the righteous but for sinners to repentance. We have a far better world to come and all are welcome.
Shouldn’t the Rainbow Gospel devotees, including the Archbishop , be the ones to
leave the cathedrals and churches ?
They need to be in the tin sheds .
It's so strange how, I think without exception, apostasy always wants to hijack the existing church. I can say with confidence that if I were a pastor and found myself fundamentally at odds with my church, I would either find or begin a new one. The complete absence of integrity, in their words and in their actions, tells me this is about powers and principalities, not the human intellect.
God’s Word is an immovable anchor in times of storm. Num 23:19
That Mullally is a bishop at all is a demonstration of a previous abandonment of biblical doctrine by the CofE.
It's an ongoing drama certainly. Terrible shame.
Excellent news...the Word both in Christ and His Word must come first.
About time! Great stuff Rev Murphy.
Sheep and goats.....God WILL have His SPOTLESS bride. Amos 3:3. Blessings to you.
Praise be to God
Split, the old CofE seems to left Christ to follow a new god. Very Sad
The fact that a woman is a bishop should have been a sign to people in the C of E quite awhile ago?
Well said Brother, from your American Christian brother high up in the mountains in dying California. Fight on, in love, dedication, and fear of our Lord, who gave Himself for us.
I left the C of E when my fiancé, who had been baptized as an infant and confirmed at age twelve but had lived a totally reprobate life, became born again at twenty two. He decided his first baptism was a farce and was baptized as a believer but his vicar, when he heard about it and my fiancé’s completely changed life, threw him out of the church.
Well…. This does go against the Nicene Creed.
Thanks for this encouraging word.
Well said William Taylor. The Bishop of London should be ashamed.
if they leave, where will they meet? will they hang onto the C/E-owned church building? (& pay rent?) or leave it empty, take all their paperwork & bought equipment, & move into the empty run-down factory down the road & open for business to the needy in the neighbourhood? why be shackled to a building that your parents & grandparents built, maintained, loved (worshipped) if Jesus the King has collected His Menorah (Rev.2) & walked out? Follow Him, & His cloud of glory ... (the local imams will probably buy the church building when the diocese puts it up for sale ... making pots of money!!)
Thank you for the straight talking, brother.
Amen, Reverand Murphy. The Church is in Jesus's hands, not man's. Although I have one foot in the Roman Church (which also has corrupt bishops and apostates) and the other in the Anglican Church (my Wife is Anglican). The Anglican Orthodox Church will not die.
Anglican orthodox is flourishing in the global south John. Whilst the church in the liberal west is dying, Anglicanism is growing amongst the poor of Africa, Asia and Latin America. So you're right, it won't die out. There are 18 million Anglicans in Nigeria alone.
@@WHU63 The same growth is seen in the GAFCON churches in North America...the ACNA is growing exponentially whilst the heretical TEC is dying out. Glory to God!
@@RevBrettMurphy My family and myself are Church of Ireland Brett. We're watching the CoE situation with interest. By and large the CoI in N Ireland tends to be evangelical. I pray that it stays that way, because when people begin to ignore the authority of the Bible, cracks begin to appear. I fear that we are in the times when men ignore truth and turn aside to myths.
Yes Jesus is in charge. God bless you, and keep you safe. 🇨🇦
Real insight and decency here.
Well explained ,thanks for the truth.
Thank you and may Christ bless you 🙏
Thank you, Brett, for your courage and faithfulness. I am a Baptists, and we are facing a similar challenge at the moment. We are considering moving to the FIEC at the moment.
I am currently coming into Christianity (am considering baptism). I initially thought of becoming Anglican because that’s what both my parents were and I’ve had good experiences at my local Anglican churches, but the decline in the church and this kind of political agenda is making me think again, whether in fact I should join the Roman Catholics. Anyone else feel the same?
The church that Jesus founded is like a beautiful tree. Strong and with deep roots. The English Church was a branch of that church but then it cut itself off from the tree. For some period of time the branch will continue to grow and even appear like it is alive but will slowly start to die. What we are seeing now is the physical culmination of that separation. We are seeing the spiritual destruction of the the Anglican Church.
There is only one true church and it wasn’t invented by the Tyrant King Henry VIII to consolidate his insatiable need for power, money, property and animalistic need to bed and kill his many wives that failed to provide an heir.
Sorry to say it, but truth can be painful. Find a Catholic Church near you and come home.
It would be a big mistake joining the Roman Catholic Church. Find a good modern evangelical baptist church that is bible believing.
@@ianbetts4435 Why do you think it would be a mistake to be a Catholic? On your point I must admit I do like the baptists in their own sort of way. I’ve tried a few of their churches and they are very welcoming.
@@Codestud The most crucial problem with the Roman Catholic Church is its belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvation. The Bible clearly and consistently states that receiving Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, grants salvation
What country do you live brother? If its the UK there are faithful independent Anglican churches around.
I continue to believe that stealing is wrong but my practice has changed. Who'd be convinced by that statement?
cheers brett; from a faithful remainer in wales.
Other churches are just letting this heresy sneak in and doing nothing to correct it. I don’t know which is worse: official changes or gradual gaslighting!
The CofE experienced both, a gradual introduction of doctrinal changes and constant infiltration by revisionists, culminating in this apostasy. Other churches be warned! Flee from feminist, inclusive, revisionist heresies and do not let them take root.
I am in the diocese of Adelaide South Austalia and have left my Anglican church over the appointment of a female priest.What you are experiencing in the C of E in the the UK will inevitably follow us here and I've decided to make the decisive cut now rather than experience the slow emergence of apostacy.I really feel for the biblical faithful C of E Anglicans and I am praying for you.I am now worshipping at a Baptist church but am grieving for lost friends and the liturgy.As someone below has commented I will become a Prayer Book enamoured Baptist.
May God bless and protect those who want to stay true to the Lord's teachings. Amen!
Remember... God is not mocked.
Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “’Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
Revelation 18;4
Buildings are only bricks and mortar. To cling to buildings and not the truth is a terrible choice to make. Our congregation walked away from everything and God has supplied all our needs and more. Best move ever. We left the heretical Uniting Church in Australia.
I see that you have a set of John MacArthur’s New Testament Commentary! Subscribed!
Well spotted! Behind my chair (not in view) is Sproul, Berkhoff and Lloyd-Jones.
@@RevBrettMurphy All my favourite teachers. Anyone who read them will not stray from the Inerrant Word of God! Thank you for keeping us informed about what is happening in the Church of England.
All Biblical Anglicans should leave and start meeting in peoples houses again and rebuild from there.
If the St. Helen's congregation secedes from the C of E and are displaced from their building, wouldn't it be BRILLIANT if they could build a new church building right next to their old one? Then let the bishop of London watch as throngs stream into the new church, while the C of E's church building sits an empty shell. "......but I can dream, can't I?" the old song went.
I left the CoE along with many others when our liberal female Vicar revealed her true colours. A church that once had 2 services on a Sunday morning is but a shadow of its former self. Too many wolves in sheep’s clothing.
In one respect what is happening is very sad but I am a firm believer in the providence of God and His purposes for His Sheep will not be thwarted. God bless you and keep you.
God bless you for making a stand. Far too many just sit in the pews and turn a blind eye to heresy preferring comfort over truth. Liberals always empty churches, I hear that story over and over....yet the CofE hasn't heeded the warning and instead continues to pump revisionist clergy into the parish system.
Congregations like St Helens and others may in due course loose their beautiful church buildings which is sad especially because for many people these places feel like a second home. However, a building is just a building and these communities are far more than a building. There is open hostility towards Evangelical Christians in the COE. The leadership has heard what the vast majority of Anglicans have been saying. They don't care. At this point it's just like a marriage that has irretrievably broken down. People like Mullaly, Cotrell and Welby don't seem to care about the damage they have done. To even speak now of an Anglican Communion seems nonsense.
You are right. Sadly, too right. We in England idolise our beautiful buildings (renovated, too) just as explained so well, in the article entitled the golden cow/calf on the Anglican Futures website.
I left the C of E and now attend a Free Evangelical Church. ✝️
Praise God though i am from another denomination, i always agree with what yu have said, an partially connected to this because their is a woman whom is Bishop, i hold veiw that there should no be woman priests an Bishops.!!!!!
I would not want to be under the authority of a female Bishop anyway.
Brexit certainly reflects the disparity between Liberal bishops and the general populace.The church's relenting in 2020 told us all we need to know.
Reminds me of the situation of the Catholic Church in Germany.
May God be with his faithful.
Please can we have an UPDATE on the new deanery. Is the London Diocese feeling the pinch now that they've lost the contributions of evangelical churches????
Ownership of one's parish Church is covered in an article in the Church Times 2nd March 2023. Church ownership stays....uncertain. I quote 'The threat to shift the historic ownership of Englands 16,000 churches from parishes to dioceses has been lifted after a working group decided it would cause too much trouble.' It was decided it would be better to leave ownership of churches in the parishes.
How is what St. Helen's is doing different from what the Church of England Evangelical Council is proposing? It sounds very similar, Evangelical churches severing ties with revisionist bishops without formally leaving the CofE. The only difference I see is that St. Helen's is doing this on a congregational level, and CEEC wants to take it to the provincial level.
That's a fair question. I suppose that St. Helen's tone is more forthright and bold. Rev Taylor took no prisoners in his video, whereas CEEC have felt far more conciliatory and weak. Also the CEEC didn't mention GAFCON or alternative oversight.
@@RevBrettMurphy Isn’t the whole point of the Third Province idea is so they could have oversight outside of Canterbury and York?
@@jamesaustin1988 Yes I think that's the aim. Getting the CofE hierarchy to agree to such a radical restructuring is a whole different kettle of fish. My gut says it will never happen.
@@RevBrettMurphy Surely a clean separation, negotiated with the Bishop of the Diocese, is the best way forward - rather than prolonged and expensive court battles....
The question is why true believers haven't left the Church of England earlier. They have been apostate for decades.
I think basically because there have been pockets of biblical faith where amazing gospel work was done. But now the whole denomination has crossed a red line for many biblical Anglicans. I agree though the compromises began long ago...
Clear message you spoke, and as an American I will pray for the orthodox people in the Church Of England, and God bless you.
I would find it really helpful to have set out the scriptural basis for the (I can't properly say 'orthodox' but I hope you know what I mean) position on these issues, as people tend to refer to scripture without giving 'citations' (common law lawyers and scientists use 'citations' to show the basis for their case). Clearly, the hierarchy's position is 'novel' and they never seem to refer to scripture at all, but it would be nice to see the basis for the positions, even if in outline.
Can we see the footage of st Helen’s that your talking about anywhere?
It's posted on their YT channel
It's years since I went to St. Helen's … in fact I'm talking Dick Lucas era, so that's quite a while! I didn't agree with Dick's stance on Reformed theology but that aside he was someone who taught scripture faithfully! I strongly support William Taylor in his stance on the biblical aspect of marriage, not that my support will make much of a difference, but the church as a whole needs those who will stand up and be counted and William Taylor is someone who needs all the support he can get! I pray the The Lord will continue to bless St. Helens as they stay firm on the word of God!
In my first job (nearly 60 years ago) I used to go to St Helen’s Bishopsgate for lunch. Even then the ministry there was amazing with the vast crowd who went in response to its weekday pastoral ministry to City workers within The Square Mile. I shall watch it with interest.
It’s worth saying that the decline we’re all seeing in the C of E has been building slowly since as far back as the 19th century at least! It’s not a new phenomenon but shows that Anglicans have been insufficiently vigilant hitherto and have permitted the cancer to spread and thrive.
I’m getting nervous because I love Anglicanism but I’m scared my church is falling apart. The only other church near me is a Catholic one and I’m scared I might have to convert if the COE situation gets much worse
Praying for you. Keep praying the Lord raises up GAFCON churches
I did exactly that and felt as if a great weight had been lifted off me
Very well said.. Thank you for sharing.. 🤍🕊
Good on you. So glad you are standing firm. Blessings