LS VATS delete, bench harness, ls droid, tunerpro, pcmhammer, universal patcher, and more.
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- I've started playing with PCM modifying, and it's easier than I initially thought. I'll show you what I've learned, my bench harness set up, and what programs you need to pick up. A new vehicle might be coming to the garage, so stay tuned and subscribe, so I know you're interested. Thanks, Mac.
![LS Swap VATS removal using free programs PCM Hammer & Universal Patcher!!!!! [Full Tutorial] Ep.#1](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5WlhOXcVqTI/mqdefault.jpg)
Perfect! Glad to see the UniversalPatcher! .. Works like HP TUNER... Great to hear these guys are helping folks out ... Not interested in HP TUNERS .. too expensive and its a money racket ... But will be doing cam swaps ... will look into that more with Universal Patcher ....
Yeah, the developers of these programs are fabulous. For them to take the time to write the programs and offer them free to gear heads is beyond gracious in my eyes.
This is absolutely the best LS tuning (free software) video I’ve ever seen. Really appreciate the help man!
I'm glad it helped. Good luck with your project!
best description of tuning with stock pcm ive seen 10/10
Thank you. I don't see myself as an expert, I just wanted to try and explain it so everyone could see the basics (vats, delete O2, etc) was achievable by yourself.
Fantastic Video! Lots of good stuff. I will be downloading these programs now. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you. I'm no professional, but they are pretty easy to use and have really opened up the tuning world to everyone.
Really awesome video! Hope to see more ECM tinkering! 😋😋
Thank you. Next few weeks I'm planning on kicking the 98 OBS project into overdrive. Will have a video going from stock to running on the ECM.
Keep up the Videos, very informative Max. Im a follower now. Get into more performance Videos Max , l would like2 see.
Thank you. I will be doing another programming video in the future for the OBS project
So glad these free options have come out. Recently ordered a P01... to put on a bike engine believe it or not. Hope one of these works to read mine; going to see if I can help figure out what was done to use a P01 with the 58x trigger wheel. If it came from a V8, it wouldn't really matter, but it was a V6. Isuzu 6VD1 engines, Rodeo, Amiga, Axiom, and the Honda Passport.
That's a good question. I'm not sure if it would work on a V6 model or not; I haven't tried. Good luck with your project bike!
@@macsboneyardbuilds The supported vehicles list mentions 4.3 vehicles. Mine is more obscure though.
New subscriber here! I’m actually wanting to do my own VATS also. Im about to start an LS Swap on my channel. I haven’t revealed the engine nor what I’m putting it in yet. I may be watching the hell out of this video to get pointers
Thanks for subscribing. I'm no master by any means. But hopefully, this gets it fired up and running for you. No matter what, keep wrenching, and don't let it beat ya!
Nah it won’t. It’s gonna be fun. It’s just cool to see other people testing the waters. Thanks again. Let’s keep in touch
Very very informative I thank you so much I'm just starting off I'm kind of starting off doing this just bought a OBDX PRO VX😊
I wish you had a class I could go to to learn more😅
I agree. I am a beginner as well. This is just what I've picked up so far. In the near future, I'll be doing a video on the OBS LS Swap I'm working on. Just keep trying, and you'll get the hang of it. 👍
Great video, I wish you had this video up when I started, Keep it up!. You forgot to mention the OBDXplorer, I use it as a alternative to Torque. To read your codes and for diagnostics.
Yeah, I hate to drag videos out too long, and there are tons of great apps and programs out there to use. I'm glad you liked the video!
This is great for diy guys!!!
Great info thanks .
Thank you. I'm not an expert by any means, but I hope to learn a few things and pass it on to others!
$80 isn't that pricey when compared to hp tuners. Found your channel from your cadi speedo video and subscribed. I'm from the area as well. I actually bought one of these the other day and am so grateful you uploaded this video. All that I can find as far as videos on this thing everyone assumes you know everything about tuning already. Your video is alot easier to follow.👍🤙
Thank you. I am by no means a mechanic or a guy who knows it all. Just someone who enjoys working on cars and trucks and not afraid to try and fix something myself. Good luck with your project and if you have a question, hopefully I can help or at least point you in the direction of someone who can.
100 percent agree. I'd love a series for the average guy who just barely bought his first LS for the long awaited father-son garage build...the father who knows zero about LS programming but wants to do everything in the garage with his kid
Great work you are doing.one question I have is you show using pin 60 for ground .the blue connector I got from scrap yard has no wire in 60 do I and a wire to 60 or use pin 1.thanks
thanks for sharing
You're welcome. Hope it helped.
Exellent😊
Thank you
Great video very informative. I was about to buy a OBD link lx. But after watching your video I did a little more digging and I changed my mind I’m going to buy a obdx pro. Have you do any tuning with it?
Thank you, I appreciate it. I have written new operating systems, segment swapped, vats delete, and cloned successfully. I have not had the time to dabble with it too much, but all of the programs and the OBDX VT have worked flawlessly so far with no errors or bricked PCMs.
thanks, great video.....Do you have a link to universal patcher ? Thank you
Thank you, glad you liked it. Universalpatcher.net
Hey there, thanks for doing this video. I couldn't get the bluetooth device you recommended as they are not currently in stock. So, I got the OBDLINK LX instead thinking it would work. I tried using Universal Patcher to write to an ecm I just got. I was able to read the entire ECM, and to also do a test write....but when I went to do a real full write...it failed. Do you think this is related to the OBDLINK or perhaps the cheap chinese 12v power adapter that is powering my setup?......or both? Thanks for the advice.
I would try to get a better 12v source first. Either a good bench supply like i used or even the battery out of one of your cars. If the aource doesnt have enough amps it will fail to write. If that doesn't work, then look into OBDX when back in stock. I've heard the latest obdlink software did not play nice with lsdroid, universal, etc. Keep after it, you'll get it!
@@macsboneyardbuilds thanks for taking the time to answer me and so quickly. It's channel's like yours that help people like me get into this hobby. Thanks again.
Absolutely 👍, I appreciate your kind words and checking out the channel!
Did you get it working?
@macsboneyardbuilds Thanks for the video. Any idea if pcm hammer or the others will work on a 1996 LT1 PCM??
Thanks!
I do not believe so. I think it's p01 p10 p59 (ls based) as well as the p12 4.2L motors. I remember reading a thread where you could rework a harness to accept a ls pcm on 96+ gm motors. But I don't have any details on how that's done. Good luck and thanks for checking out the channel.
@@macsboneyardbuilds Thank you!!
@@macsboneyardbuildsthe GM vans used the old vortec L31, till 2002 or 2003, also some commercial chassis used L31 later too but they all used the newer LS ECU... I did a bunch of research years ago about using the newer ECU on the L31 because you could get way more power with the better ECU...
EDIT- kinda lost track of what I was saying, hope I made sense...
Also my 2003 blazer with a 4.3 has the same ECU as my 2003 LM7 Yukon and my 2006 LH6 Envoy...
I already have EFI Live, but changing Vin for free would be worth buying the needed adapter+I wouldn't have to buy more credits.
Agreed. It's a great software 👍
Do you have to connect the OBD dongle direct to the PCM to read and write? Can you connect it to the plug inside the car?
It is highly recommended not to do it in the car. If the voltage drops mid write, it will brick the pcm. The bench harness is really easy to make, and you can either buy new or go to the junkyard and get the couple connectors you would need.
Ill just pay some one to remove the VATS.
There is nothing wrong with outsourcing. I know my limits and have to call a friend all the time.
So I can turn on the fans on an emc that doesn't have them on?
Yes, you can and set them at whatever temperature you desire for on/off.
Succesfully removed my VATS and turned all my dtc off i needed to. Is there any way to put the 4l80e section in to my PCM with UP or PCM Hammer? I know I will have to find a pcm with the same OS as mine that had a 4L80e in it. I have no Idea where to even start to look for that. But I havent been able to find any info on doing it with anything other than on HP tuners.
You are correct. The operating systems need to match. The website gearhead efi has a large amount of bin files gathered from users. You have to sign up, and it takes a couple days, usually for them to approve you. Also, the ls droid website and FB page have a lot of bin files. If you are having too much difficulty finding one, you may have to find two matching operating systems with the motor/trans combo you need. Then you can segment swap them in ls droid, make the bin you need, and then delete vats, etc from the new file. Hope that made sense 🙏
Is it necessary to get the VT version of ODBxPro ? They have a VX version and VT version. Can you tell me what the difference is? Thanks
I believe the VX has replaced the VT. I don't think the VT is available anymore.
get the OBDX GT.
could you help me out if i was just tuning with the pcm in vechile could i just plug into the obd2 in the car and tune from there
Can you tune in the car, yes. Would I, no. If the voltage drops during a write process, it can brick the pcm with a sudden shutdown. I haven't done it, but maybe put a battery charger on the car or something to make sure your volts stay up. Also, I'd refine your tuning skills on a spare pcm. You don't wanna botch a tune on your only one.
Good evening. Can you explain to me how to save a changed VIN because every time it says Updated Successfully I hit OK , but when I go back to read properties the VIN hasn’t changed. I’ve been at this all day. I need help! Thank you so much. YourBoyEric from Southern Cali.
Trying to remember the sequence from memory. Have the key and constant power both on and ls droid recognize the pcm. Type in the new VIN to the change vin box, click update. It should then flash, key power off, count down, then key cycle on, updat pcm info. LS droid should kind of be step by step with a new screen telling you to key off and on at specific times. Hope this helped. I just did my obs ls pcm and it changed it no issues 🤔 weird yours won't take.
Thank you for your reply. If it helps I'm using Universal Patcher.
Universal is great for vats, O2, etc. Try the vin tool on LSDroid. That is what I've used with success 👍
Which is better obdxpro or obdlink mx+ for delete vats and tuning ?
The obdlink's new software is not compatible with ls droid, pcm hammer, etc. Get an obdx pro and you'll be set 👍
Damn. I just bought the MX+
Also, that thing costs $80 because people pay it. "It's so much cheaper than HPTuners."
It could be twice as much and still be cheaper than HP Tuners.
@@macsboneyardbuilds That's my point.
LS droid is down, at least my computer tells me it is. Do you have an alternative site?
drive.google.com/file/d/1ur5KzwwdYDcp39_jE7Es3Qlvt4M_bmp8/view
Man, so i see this only supports Gen III. I am dealing with a Gen IV . Hopefully they'll support IVs by the time i'm more into my build.
That would be great. I know the guys behind the scenes at LS Droid, universal patcher, and PCM Hammer are always working on ways to improve it.
So i can get a cord that will connect to the OBD2 port to a USB ?
There are hundreds of bluetooth tongles and usb to obd cables out there. The big thing is it has to VPW compliant which these pcm communicate by. Also, the programs are always being updated. LS Droid has done several upgrades since this video, along with their OBDx line of dongles. My advice would be to buy the current obdx dongle from their site. I'm not affiliated with them at all, but they are known to work using these programs. Unlike a ton of others out there, they may or may not work. You will be money ahead and headache free going with what works.
Obdx pro is sold out. Will the more expensive OBDX Pro VX work? It's $140
Yep, there are different types of OBDX; Pro, VT, VX, they do the same thing, just have different features. VX, I believe, is usb only, so you won't be able to connect via Bluetooth on your android phone.
@@macsboneyardbuilds thanks! i just got the GT version it worked so far. i was able to connect. have a few errors in pcmhammer i need to figure out though
Yeah it's kind of a trial and error learning system for guys who aren't skilled programmers. I am one of those guys, haha. I always suggest having a couple junkyard backup pcms to work with initially in case you mess something up until you get the hang of it.
That Bluetooth adapter isn't available anymore. They have a newer model at 140 dollars.
Yeah, the video is over a year old. I'm sure with inflation, the price is bound to just keep going up.
@@macsboneyardbuilds inflation, aka another tax on Americans.
Yeah, I really hope our country can one day wake up and get our priorities right
I havent seen someone do this on gen 4 pcm and up can it be done the same?
These software programs are for Gen 3. Hopefully, one day, they can do more 🤞
@@macsboneyardbuilds so in summary for gen4 and above and others use hp tuners…
Can i turn off my dod with this tool?
DOD started after 07 on gen 4 motors. This works for gen 3 99-06 motors. I have not seen DOD delete in these programing applications. Sucks, but if I had to guess the awesome guys working on these softwares are probably hard at working on the next generation motors.
My tuner pro won’t start. The boot screen pops up and goes away. Is it win11 compatible or just win10
I believe it's 7 and newer. Did you get it off the site tunerpro.net .
@@macsboneyardbuilds yeah I got the latest version
That's weird. Haven't heard of that issue before. Besides deleting it and reinstalling I'm not sure what the issue is.
Good video! I'm pretty dumb to this stuff but I was wondering if you need all those programs or just the Universal patcher will work? Just wanting stock tune and VATS delete and typical ls swap stuff. I paid $200 to get that stuff done on my last one and looking to cut costs on another swap. Thank you!
If staying stock you really don't need tunerpro. The software is free, so I suggest getting them while they are available in case that changes. Read your pcm with pcm hammer, edit it with Universal patcher, write it back with pcm hammer again. Remember to keep your factory file and make a new one with your edits (vats, emissions, etc) in case something is wrong. You can do it👍
Surely 2 is VATS disabled ? Although on the .bin I have here I cannot select 2. If I open it in Tunerpro, it says VATS is enabled, but when I save in Tunerpro and try to test write with hammer, it says file corrupt.
I'm not fully understanding your question. If just disabling vats, use universal patcher and write it with droid would be easiest.