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Hi MCrider. My first time here I think. Do you apply any throttle, and if so, any tips for keeping it at a constant rate? So, is the technique: "constant throttle and use the clutch in and out of the friction zone", or is the clutch always in the same place with these exercises? Thanks.
I've got 20+ years of riding experience and never dropped a bike. I've always had smaller bikes. Three weeks ago I got a eletra glide. I've dropped it twice now. Lol! It feels like I'm starting over when it comes to stopping. Thanks for the tips!
Dropped mine at maybe 2 mph changing from pavement to gravel, to much front brake in 3in of gravel. Being a veteran rider of over 50 years it's good to know I can still learn better riding skills. Thank you for your great videos and gentle teaching method.
During my MSF class I dropped my Road King 6 or 7 times, it was a calamity of errors. By the end of the class I took my riding test and somehow passed. I learned a lot that weekend, like I needed some repairs on my bike and new bars that suited me better. I'm still not great at slow speeds but I am a lot better. I have been riding bikes on and off since I was 12 and am now 55. I was embarrassed at all the mistakes I made which made things worse than they should have been. I got into my own head a lot, and that was a mistake. Just remember that every ride is practice, use the parking lot as your practice field, when you can u turn a 800 pound bike in 2 parking spaces, you are well on your way. Always use speed and power to the rear wheel to make you comfortable. It is amazing when you pull up to a stop light and try to keep your feet up, the handle bars go all wabbly, add a little power, a little less clutch and a little rear brake and she stands right up. That works through all the slow speed maneuvers, and remember to lean and about 12-15mph, just do what feels right.
In my advanced trainning I learned how to turn my bike in a full 360 turn in the space of two parking stalls. My bike is a Electra Glide Ultra Classic. Very important info here. I have gotten pretty good at lowspeed handling. Riding for 50 years. My friend and I have a game we like to play. Who can go the slowest without putting your feet down. One more thing. Please invest in good riding boots. Sneakers arent really a good choice. Boots can save your feet plus you have better traction when moving around on your bike with your feet. Beware of fixation crashes. When going through turns, look where to where you want to be and thats where your bike will go. Keep your head up. Know your friction zone. Thanks for the great videos. I subscribed. You can teach an old dog new tricks!
I used to worry about clutch life by using the zone method. I just turned 60k on my vstar without ever cracking the motor open for any repairs. Guys worry more about repair costs than their own safety. Learning how to use the friction zone several years ago has increased my fun and confidence. Great tips as always. Thanks mcRider.
Hey Kevin, good morning! Want you to know your doing an excellent job. I'm a returning rider, 50 years since I rode in my early twenties, so I bought a HD electra glide ultra classic before I started watching TH-cam videos. Mistake. I dropped it 9 times trying to get it out of my 400 foot gravel driveway before I realized that I didn't want it out of my driveway until I learned what I thought I still knew. So I've signed up for a MSF course and I joined MCrider as a patreon. Watched a lot of TH-cam videos and your the best, God be with you and your family and we'll see you on the road.
Thanks Kevin. When I did my Advanced training I was told not to wiggle my hips when turning at higher speeds. This led me never to wiggle - and consequently no counterweighting at lower speeds. Boy did I struggle with the low speed test! What was missing was “lean the bike into the turn, but at low speeds lean your body in the opposite direction to keep balance”. Now I have grasped countersteering vs counterweighting - it’s made a big difference.
I’ve always been taught to look 12-15 seconds ahead in my large truck training. I’ve found this to be useful in every vehicle I drive, including my motorcycle. However, I look even more intense because I’m also looking for road hazards(potholes, gravel, objects, etc). Thank you for all of your tips. I use them everyday. I suggest if you’re getting a motorcycle to be cool, to keep up with the Jones’s or to be a show off and aren’t mature or disciplined enough to triple or quadruple your attention span at all times, just don’t buy one! You’re already a danger to everyone else on the road in your car!
Not really about the video.. but all of them. Took my MSF today and got 0 points (a perfect score). My instructors were amazing, but your videos and a few others were really helpful. Thank you
@@cedricksamaniego9146 with one of their 250cc bikes? Wow, I'm impressed. I just took it myself and it rained half the day and was dry the other half. I actually appreciated having half of our practice on wet asphalt.
@@AaronBlackmor yes and I don't remember the combination I used accidentally. It was sheer dumb luck. It also took me a year to buy first bike. The weird thing is, I use everything that I was taught but I should of asked where I needed work on.
I took MSF course while in the military, which was mandatory to ride on base. That was back in 1982, when I bought my brand new Honda CB750 Nighthawk, straight out of the crate. It was also mandatory to bring the bike YOU were going to be riding. I went through the required class room course, passed the written test and proceeded to course work. All in all, a week of skill development. Fast forward to 2011, bought a brand new 2010 Honda VTX1300R in Phoenix, Arizona. To obtain a motorcycle endorsement on my license, I had to pass a written and riding test, using that bike. VTX1300R is a cruiser, longer than average street bike. Although the slow speed figure 8 turns were difficult, I did slightly cross the lines, the test instructor rated the turn as "acceptable" and passed me. After 19 years, I STILL remembered the skills that was thought through MSF course and I passed with very little issue, other than being very nervous. My wife's 25 Y/O son, he decided to get a bike, after visiting us in Arizona and saw my "new" Goldwing and we had a talk on the importance of the MSF course, which had kept me safe all those years and continue to keep me safer. I think I'm over due for refresher to recertify my skills as educated and responsive rider. Subscribed and looking for all the information that may have changed since my course back in 1982. BTW folks, my insurance STILL recognized the MSF course and got me a discount, even after all these years...it pays in more ways than one.
Great video I've been riding for 40yrs have seen riders out of school crash a big bike in corners due to inexperience on a big bike also loved your slow speed riding techniques I still to this day never dropped a bike
Pulled my FJR into a freshly topped parking lot, put my feet down to balance so I could put the kickstand down and I didn't notice someone had dumped a latte on the pavement and I had put my right foot down on the plastic cup lid which was in a pool of latte. On the slick new pavement lubed with a latte, I went down. The only up side, besides reminding my self to always be aware of my ground game, I got so mad I had enough adrenaline pump to pop the heavy FJR right back up straight without getting a hernia. Another great video!
I've been watching some motorcycle officer training videos and rodeos quiet a bit lately, and it too has been an eye opener. One thing I noticed they will do is make a slight dip in the opposite direction of a u-turn they're about to make so I decided to go give it a try, turns out to be a very helpful technique. I also noticed in slow speed maneuvers they will very noticeably pump the rear brake while working the friction zone, and I mean extremely slow speed, maybe a foot or two per minute, very impressive! I really appreciate the work you do with your channel, and what a true service you provide to the motorcycle community, thank you and stay safe!
@@rdw3171I'm not very "Computer literate when It comes to posting links but they showed up in my "Recommended for you" after watching some of Jerry Palladino's videos.
First thing I saw was both feet on the ground while the motor was still rolling. Right hand presumably on the brake lever. Turn the bars a little in that situation and it's going to fall over. We coach, "both feet on the boards if rolling, left foot on the ground when stopped." Simple practice of this during sessions and daily riding will reduce drops tremendously. Also, how does the rider ensure that the motor leans to the left for the left foot on the ground stopping procedure? Easy! just before stopping, countersteer! Yes, countersteer. Push on the left handlebar to push the motor to the left. The front wheel will be forced to the right, causing the motorcycle's weight to be more to the left side. The motor will lean to the left where your 'one foot on the ground' can stabilize the balance.
Hi Kevin, that was me two weeks ago. Pulled up to an ATM at a local supermarket on the way to work, stopped the bike (I thought), put the sidestand fully down (I thought), got off the bike and oops, down it went. I hadn’t stopped fully or got the side stand down fully. Luckily I was able to lower it down under control. First thing I did was got up and looked around to see if anybody had seen me!! Pride severely dented, bike okay!! Thanks from a UK rider for the tips in the video, I learned how valid they are the hard way! Ride safe and keep ‘em coming.
it don,t hurt to brush up...I'm 76 and ride a pretty heavy motorcycle and I still ride a bicycle to hone my balance, seems to help me...good video thanks.
Always leave it in first gear when you park the motorcycle that acts like a parking brake. People taking selfies with your motorcycle are liable to make it roll. Also had the wind blow mine forward and down it went. I tuck in my bootlace like the drill instructor taught me. Thank you Kevin
Tips are right on. I learned most of them the hard way. I've been riding on and off (mostly on) for fifty years. For the last eight years I've had a Kawasaki Versys 650 that now has 20K miles. I dropped it numerous times at zero to very low speed before I dropped the suspension front and rear by two inches (and a custom lower seat) so I could put both feet flat on the ground when stopped. I've just purchased a 2019 Kawasaki Concours 14, which is much heavier. I'm not even going to try to ride it until it is lowered, both the suspension and seat and replaced the handlebar to bring the grips up and much closer. I'm sure the Concours will be my last bike (I'm 74) so I wanted a bike that has all the features I've always wanted, e.g., ABS, ESC, shaft drive and heated grips. The only feature it didn't have, which is a must, is electronic cruise control. I've ordered a McCruise Electronic Cruise Control aftermarket accessory to have installed.
That's okay till a heavy bike falls away from you. I never get off until my side stand is down, as for parking down hill, I try to avoid that as worried about the bike moving forward and flicking the stand up as you walk away from it, seen it happen many times.
@@ukbusman I bought the Dyna Glide of my dreams; went to back into a parking space angle down hill; done that a 1000 times; this time, I must have laid a heavier hand on the left side handle bar, and my left toe was about to touch the ground while rolling backward; fell over like like a tipping barn; never been so embarrassed; thought about what I did a lot.
@@johnshields9110 I agree with backing into a parking space, but when I'm on a downhill I'll go ahead and leave the bike in gear when I shut it off, this way it's not rolling away from you
Yup I learned the hard to always think about how I'm gonna leave when I park my bike lol. Never looks cool to have to get off your bike and pull it backwards because you can't go in reverse lol
Good video. A retired NYPD officer Robert Simmons has a sight called Paying It Forward. Goes in depth on slow speed operation helped me alot. I've been riding 52 years
@@jefferythomas4414 Yep, I fell prey to failing to look properly making a simple turn. Right to the other side of the road where I had become transfixed and clipped a guard rail. Never ever thought that would happen.
I've been riding motorcycles since I was six. I learned a lot watching these videos. It's made me a better Rider I have more control over my motorcycle I thought I knew more than what I do. Thank you for your help and support.
I'm a newer rider just shy of 3 years into it. These slow speed things have been a thorn in my side. I seem to be getting worse rather than better. Appreciate the video.
Clutch in the friction zone + rear brakes during the slow weaving exercises around straight cones was essential for balance & control.(Cone placement was wayyy closer together than your set up here). I failed & ran over some cones initially by increasing throttle to push through the turns & front brakes which threw my bike a bit off balance-not smooth overall. Also, tucking both knees inward toward the tank helps with balance & control as well. Anyway, I appreciate your hard work & helpful tips for riders out there. Your channel is probably the most organized & well thought out. Love your energy & calm vibes. Have a healthy & happy 2024! 🎉TY!
Massive thanks to you, Kevin: 4 weeks ago I passed my 'A' licence (in the UK that means "big bike" or any cc/bhp). Although I had great instruction from my riding school, still in large part your videos were a straight-edge. I look forward to more. Thank you again and may God bless you always.
Congrats on getting you “A” license. If you haven’t done so, consider joining the forums. There is a ton of information there to help you continue to grow as a rider. www.MCrider.com/support
Technique is DEFINITELY the 🔑. I’ve gone from a 315 lb Yamaha 125 to a 550 lb BMW R1250GS in 2 years and feel comfortable on the Beemer as long as I practice what I was taught which is exactly what Kevin highlights in this video. Head up, back brake only at slow speed, good clutch control, etc. Yet more good old fashioned common sense advice from MC Rider 👍
I just finished the motorcycle training course and I am most definitely gonna do the slow riding techniques with my own motorcycle. I learned a whole bunch there and can’t wait to apply it with my z650
Yup did a couple of these things while parking last week. I picked a parking spot on a hill (dumb choice). Then I curved through pointed out to back it in. Because of the slope I put my right foot down to help and used the front brake with the wheel turned right. So over I went to the right, down hill. I work on my slow speed skills quite often and I get lots of parking, practice, just like this one, while delivering food on my bike. Hopefully I learned my lesson on choosing flat parking spots.😎
After 45 years of riding I dropped my new Harley pulling up to an intersection and, get this, next to the county sheriff. When he asked if I was OK I smiled and replied "Except for my pride, sure!" He chuckled and drove on. After watching this video I realize my front tire was turned due to the slight bend in the road literally at the stop sign. Thanks for helping out a geezer! Now to watch your other vids and join your forum.
Just got my first motorcycle this weekend, been riding around the neighborhood, its been a while since I have ridden a dirtbike in my youth. These are so much heavier, almost pulled a muscle stopping and holding it up earlier. Came right in to look for this video, thanks.
Went and looked at a Truimph legend 900 today to possibly buy it, had never dropped a bike - but also had never ridden anything that big. Test drove it in the parking lot and dropped it going 2mph coming to a stop in a parking space. Was SO embarrassed 😂 - had to go ahead and buy the bike out of embarrassment/being a man of honor. I’m glad I did because it’s an awesome bike, but I learned a valuable lesson and it bought me to this video. No front brake when going slow! Got it!
I find pushing the handle bars to make a turn and not pulling the bars helps me counter balance in the slow speed turns. The videos are great thank you. Always find something new.
You answered my question on why I dropped the bike when I stopped. It’s b/c my handle bar was not straight the moment when I put on the brakes. Thank you so much!
Best course I took used one hand through the cone weaves. Really made you look ahead and feel the bike under you. Naturally the left hand steer was slower because it was idling whereas right hand was able to throttle and go a little faster.
I am an older rider that just got back on a bike and have learned alot on these videos, thank you, no extra money for forum, can barely keep an gas in my bike(my only transpo), but thanks
This is a really good video. I like that it has a lot of well written dialogue. Friction zone: you just can't say enough about friction zone, especially in slow speed turns. I used to pickup my GF at the top of her driveway and we'd ride down to the bottom. When we got into the street, I'd stop with the clutch pulled in and stayed mounted on the bike (feet on the floorboards) and cause it to start to tip in the direction I was going to turn into the street. As the bike started to lean, I would control my lean angle with the clutch and throttle as I began to enter the street. She told me that my ability to do this with the her on the bike gave her a lot of confidence. She was also a great passenger.
I’m 61 and have a 540 pound bike with a high sitting height...while I’m trying to get stronger legs in the gym, this video is priceless information!!! Eventually I may have to downsize as I don’t plan on ever giving up riding, but I would like to stay on this one as long as I can.
Thanks for the training refreshers! Priceless! Have ridden MCs for many years. Every new ridding season I take the time to reacquaint myself with my motorcycle. It is well worth the time.
Thank you Kevin for all the helpful knowledge you impart on this channel! I’ve been watching you since before I ever rode a bike. My friends from our riding club also watch your videos! I always use what I learnt from you as I’m riding on the highways and country roads! Using your road strategies are paramount to stay safe and avoid dangerous situations! Thank you again and keep up the good work!
I learned all about the friction zone at 14 on a Ford 8N tractor with a two-stage clutch. The first stage controlled the PTO shaft and the second stage controlled the transmission. I had to barely rock the tractor in reverse while Dad lined up the 3 point hitch mounts with the implements. If I did it too much he could lose a finger. If my foot slipped off the pedal, worse could happen. Friction zone is all about control and safety.
I dropped my Rebel in the beginning few times in my driveway before I figured out the 'Rear Brake Only" thing :). No damage, but learned hard way. Now it's a habit in low speed maneuvering.
I reckon the right foot is the most underutilized control for most motorcyclists. Mastering it ... as best you can ... makes 1000% difference in 99% of slow and emergency riding scenarios.
I find your training videos very useful. I first learned to ride a bike in 1976, have risen many times since then, but never took a riding class. I have been real lucky avoiding trouble. The bike I have now is very heavy, slow speed really gives me trouble. I think with what you have been saying and showing will help a lot.
Amazing advices about how not to drop the bike! I learn a few in the hard way! Now I have a new bike and almost drop it because the side stand wasn't properly in the stand position. A miracle save the bike of an unsolicited baptism! Men! What a scary moment! Great tip about the friction zone and the exercises! Thanks friend! Have a safe ride. I have a lot of work to do watching all your videos!
I told my teenaged son that he needs some years in a cage, especially with a manual transmission, before he gets a street ride. If you've ever driven a stick on hilly streets (especially with traffic lights like the Seattle/Tacoma area where I learned), you understand friction zones or you've dented the front end of more than a few trailing cars. My step-dad called it 'freezing the clutch.'
Great tips. Being a big bicycler, I've realized many of the tips are similar. Of course a cycle is heavier but for the most part the same rules apply. That was never told to me in the course I took but it seemed to help once I realized that.
Great video. As an instructor myself we teach exactly what Ken is showing in this video. It’s all about technique, technique and technique. Thanks Ken.
I agree that loose boot laces can cause trouble. My boot laces kept coming undone on my bike and off of my bike. It gets annoying after putting so much effort to tie them tightly and it still happens. Yesterday I went to Walmart to get some replacement laces and discovered waxed boot laces. They hold very tight and they haven't loosened up yet. I would recommend some on a motorcycle. Or get some zip up boots. I might try that too.
Hello Kevin, mostly youtube recommends things I don't really need, but I found your channel somehow and glad that I did. I am also starting back to riding after a long break of 8 years, even though I over 200K Km experience in the past, I think even though my mind thinks I can ride, my motor controls are rusty. Watching these videos are putting so much sense into practices I learnt through experience as a young rider however are lost as they are not consciously remembered. You are adding a why to every how and I think this series is great and should be used by many training schools on regular basis. As during this break of 8 years I have been driving, I realise that most car drivers who don't know how to ride need some training as well to learn how to share the road. They don;t have any incentive but it has to be learnt beyond 2 MCQ questions in the theory test on how much safe distance to keep- they don't understand why a rider moves position in the lane or would change lane or would lane split. Hopefully in the future. For now, I will try to find the field guide and polish the lost skill. A big thank you from Singapore!
I did a stupid. I had the kickstand down right after I stopped to get off. However down was not totally locked in. As I got off, the bike got lazy and decided to lay down. I stayed standing and helped the bike lay down slowly. Lesson learned..Make sure that the kickstand is locked in and not just down. Great video, just a little too late for this stupid act. I learned and now I watch every one of these videos. Can always learn even after 43 years of riding.
The u-turn on the training course was a PITA for me, but i've gotten much better at it since. had to do a rather tight one to get away from a gas pump just today.
Great tips , completely agree Just having a look at your stuff to remind me Currently riding an HD ultra in Rural North Yorkshire UK . 10 more days of rain and frost over here. So hankering to get out
Very important video! I used to ride long distances...but always struggling in the turns and dropping sometimes in the levelled turns... until I completely dropped riding....but still interested watching your useful videos ... if and only if will ride again.
Hi and thank you so much for this Informative video. I really got allot out of it I have not ridden in years and your video has really helped my confidence I'm looking forward to being out there again.
Hey Kevin, great video as always! The very best tip I was ever given when getting my license and passing that dreaded U-Turn was to ride slow, but with higher revs and to ride the rear brake and clutch. The higher revs provides a gyroscopic effect from the engine - aiding in balancing the motorcycle and it worked a treat. I was making turns in half the required width in no time at all.
The higher revs gyroscopic effect aren't what stabilized the motorcycle. The slightly higher revs will help straighten the motor when the clutch engagement is increased. Motor skills competitors are on the edge of dropping a hundred times per run through a course. But we practice so much that we know how to take it to the edge and recover if we over-rotate.
THANK YOU for this.. as many have said, I learned things that I didn't learn in my moto safety course. we learned stopping at higher speeds, and on a straight track. using the rear brake for slow maneuvers was never discussed! got my first bike & dropped it while rolling it, just trying to park 🤦 if you use the front brake while turning the handlebars, you're almost guaranteed to fall.. well that's exactly what I did. never again 🙃
Great video, mastery of slow control (I was taught, 2000-2500 rpm, ride the clutch and keep it there and control your speed with only your back brake), will definitely allow superior control of your bike. 👍
Thank you Sir....your videos are not only saving US trips to claims dept....but more importantly, saving the lives of us riders and others on the road.....after viewing many other rider educational videos and persons....you are my go to on a daily basis....your theory/practicum format are second to none....thank you once again....you are a blessing Sir....FREE INDEED....JOE
Even after all the years I've been riding there are still days when coming to and then stops still plagues me with the front wheel turning just a little bit trying to get the rear brake working while getting the Left foot down comfortably and holding the bike with the front brake while getting your right foot down. I haven't actually dropped one of the bikes yet but have come close a couple of times muscling it back up by doing exactly what was shown in the video and not even necessarily turning the front wheel as far as he did. Ram 2009 hi buddy gave me a video of ride like a pro guy who is all about the friction zone and that video DVD opened up all of that world to me and has made a huge difference for my slow speeds. It really works along with all of the head and eye position that he also talks about constantly in every single video he puts out.thank you Kevin for putting these things together because it is the nucleus clump of things that plagued most writers at slow speeds even after years
@@chucksherron Hey Chuck,. If you're riding a little dirt bike that weighs absolutely nothing yeah I can see that but when you're driving a big cruisers full fairing sports bikes and a Goldwing there are times when you're stopped and you need to wait for considerable traffic to go past and while that's happening the wind blowing you crossways can have a little bit of a ceiling effect with a large motorcycle and it is way safer to have your two feet planted firmly on both sides with equilibrium distance between them to prevent even a little bit of wind from pulling you over when it grabs the bike or the windshield.
Nice, have not seen a video on this before. I've seen many slow speed falls and I've had to rescue a few fellow riders that forgot to put the kickstand down. I don't ride a large bike, VStar 950 Tourer, but I have had a few heavy passengers and that makes a big difference in your ability to cheat or muscle the bike out of slow speed trouble. Thanks for sharing.
I attended a MSC 30 year ago and they pounded that friction zone into us.I attended another 3 years ago when I got back into riding and the instructors didn’t mention the friction zone at all. I brought it up to one and he acted like he never heard of it. Made me question the entire course.
Bloody brilliant!! I'm going to practice that for sure. I'm petrified of dropping my bike. So don't want to do that. Thanks MC Rider! Superb tuition and unbelievably helpful. 😀👍
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Hi MCrider. My first time here I think. Do you apply any throttle, and if so, any tips for keeping it at a constant rate? So, is the technique: "constant throttle and use the clutch in and out of the friction zone", or is the clutch always in the same place with these exercises? Thanks.
Been riding since '63 and have taken advanced training courses. Rarely do I watch a MCrider post without learning something new.
Me too, I have been riding 52 years with over 200,000 miles under my belt.
What’s your guys trick to avoid dying while riding a motorcycle?
@@byrek8975 I stay in my lane, figuratively and literally.
@@Hoggdoc1946 Any accidents? I have diabetes and fear getting hurt. We dont heal as quickly or worse, dont heal at all.
I've got 20+ years of riding experience and never dropped a bike. I've always had smaller bikes. Three weeks ago I got a eletra glide. I've dropped it twice now. Lol! It feels like I'm starting over when it comes to stopping. Thanks for the tips!
Dropped mine at maybe 2 mph changing from pavement to gravel, to much front brake in 3in of gravel. Being a veteran rider of over 50 years it's good to know I can still learn better riding skills. Thank you for your great videos and gentle teaching method.
I did the same thing last year,Broke my thumb! Too much front front brake! Also been ring 50 years. Still learning!
Never use the front brake below 5-10mph, always use the rear brake, the clutch and throttle to control. It is easy once you practice it.
During my MSF class I dropped my Road King 6 or 7 times, it was a calamity of errors. By the end of the class I took my riding test and somehow passed. I learned a lot that weekend, like I needed some repairs on my bike and new bars that suited me better. I'm still not great at slow speeds but I am a lot better. I have been riding bikes on and off since I was 12 and am now 55. I was embarrassed at all the mistakes I made which made things worse than they should have been. I got into my own head a lot, and that was a mistake. Just remember that every ride is practice, use the parking lot as your practice field, when you can u turn a 800 pound bike in 2 parking spaces, you are well on your way. Always use speed and power to the rear wheel to make you comfortable. It is amazing when you pull up to a stop light and try to keep your feet up, the handle bars go all wabbly, add a little power, a little less clutch and a little rear brake and she stands right up. That works through all the slow speed maneuvers, and remember to lean and about 12-15mph, just do what feels right.
In my advanced trainning I learned how to turn my bike in a full 360 turn in the space of two parking stalls. My bike is a Electra Glide Ultra Classic. Very important info here. I have gotten pretty good at lowspeed handling. Riding for 50 years. My friend and I have a game we like to play. Who can go the slowest without putting your feet down. One more thing. Please invest in good riding boots. Sneakers arent really a good choice. Boots can save your feet plus you have better traction when moving around on your bike with your feet. Beware of fixation crashes. When going through turns, look where to where you want to be and thats where your bike will go. Keep your head up. Know your friction zone. Thanks for the great videos. I subscribed. You can teach an old dog new tricks!
I've just found this post. I've been away from biking for some years. This is pure gold for me. Thank you so much.
I used to worry about clutch life by using the zone method. I just turned 60k on my vstar without ever cracking the motor open for any repairs. Guys worry more about repair costs than their own safety. Learning how to use the friction zone several years ago has increased my fun and confidence. Great tips as always. Thanks mcRider.
Hey Kevin, good morning! Want you to know your doing an excellent job. I'm a returning rider, 50 years since I rode in my early twenties, so I bought a HD electra glide ultra classic before I started watching TH-cam videos. Mistake. I dropped it 9 times trying to get it out of my 400 foot gravel driveway before I realized that I didn't want it out of my driveway until I learned what I thought I still knew. So I've signed up for a MSF course and I joined MCrider as a patreon. Watched a lot of TH-cam videos and your the best, God be with you and your family and we'll see you on the road.
Thanks Kevin. When I did my Advanced training I was told not to wiggle my hips when turning at higher speeds. This led me never to wiggle - and consequently no counterweighting at lower speeds. Boy did I struggle with the low speed test! What was missing was “lean the bike into the turn, but at low speeds lean your body in the opposite direction to keep balance”. Now I have grasped countersteering vs counterweighting - it’s made a big difference.
I also find that squeezing the bike with ur knees/legs while keeping my arms fairly relaxed helps a lot at those slower walking pace speeds as well.
@Jon Williams Almost. I happen to have one of those too. 😉
Makes high speed banks more comfortable too...
And 'posting' on longer bridges was another horse riding skill i brought to riding.
Excellent advice. I feel more comfortable and confident doing that.
Staying connected with the bike.
You never really appreciate the placement of a motorcycle's gas tank until you find yourself cornering on a scooter.
I’ve always been taught to look 12-15 seconds ahead in my large truck training. I’ve found this to be useful in every vehicle I drive, including my motorcycle. However, I look even more intense because I’m also looking for road hazards(potholes, gravel, objects, etc). Thank you for all of your tips. I use them everyday.
I suggest if you’re getting a motorcycle to be cool, to keep up with the Jones’s or to be a show off and aren’t mature or disciplined enough to triple or quadruple your attention span at all times, just don’t buy one! You’re already a danger to everyone else on the road in your car!
They let FlatEarthers drive big rigs?
I thought you were an intelligent guy until I saw your username.
Joe Troutt - Perhaps you should research it before you put your foot in your mouth again?
@@FLATearthGARY ....You must be a Swift Truck Driver. Lmao. Let me guess you also believe we've never been to the moon and 9/11 was an inside job?
@@281sTravel Flathead is a type of motor you muppet
Not really about the video.. but all of them. Took my MSF today and got 0 points (a perfect score). My instructors were amazing, but your videos and a few others were really helpful. Thank you
Congratulations
I almost failed the class because I did an accidental rear wheelie.
@@cedricksamaniego9146 with one of their 250cc bikes? Wow, I'm impressed. I just took it myself and it rained half the day and was dry the other half. I actually appreciated having half of our practice on wet asphalt.
@@AaronBlackmor yes and I don't remember the combination I used accidentally. It was sheer dumb luck. It also took me a year to buy first bike. The weird thing is, I use everything that I was taught but I should of asked where I needed work on.
Well done!
I took MSF course while in the military, which was mandatory to ride on base. That was back in 1982, when I bought my brand new Honda CB750 Nighthawk, straight out of the crate.
It was also mandatory to bring the bike YOU were going to be riding.
I went through the required class room course, passed the written test and proceeded to course work. All in all, a week of skill development.
Fast forward to 2011, bought a brand new 2010 Honda VTX1300R in Phoenix, Arizona.
To obtain a motorcycle endorsement on my license, I had to pass a written and riding test, using that bike. VTX1300R is a cruiser, longer than average street bike.
Although the slow speed figure 8 turns were difficult, I did slightly cross the lines, the test instructor rated the turn as "acceptable" and passed me.
After 19 years, I STILL remembered the skills that was thought through MSF course and I passed with very little issue, other than being very nervous.
My wife's 25 Y/O son, he decided to get a bike, after visiting us in Arizona and saw my "new" Goldwing and we had a talk on the importance of the MSF course, which had kept me safe all those years and continue to keep me safer.
I think I'm over due for refresher to recertify my skills as educated and responsive rider.
Subscribed and looking for all the information that may have changed since my course back in 1982.
BTW folks, my insurance STILL recognized the MSF course and got me a discount, even after all these years...it pays in more ways than one.
Great video I've been riding for 40yrs have seen riders out of school crash a big bike in corners due to inexperience on a big bike also loved your slow speed riding techniques I still to this day never dropped a bike
Pulled my FJR into a freshly topped parking lot, put my feet down to balance so I could put the kickstand down and I didn't notice someone had dumped a latte on the pavement and I had put my right foot down on the plastic cup lid which was in a pool of latte. On the slick new pavement lubed with a latte, I went down. The only up side, besides reminding my self to always be aware of my ground game, I got so mad I had enough adrenaline pump to pop the heavy FJR right back up straight without getting a hernia. Another great video!
I've been watching some motorcycle officer training videos and rodeos quiet a bit lately, and it too has been an eye opener. One thing I noticed they will do is make a slight dip in the opposite direction of a u-turn they're about to make so I decided to go give it a try, turns out to be a very helpful technique.
I also noticed in slow speed maneuvers they will very noticeably pump the rear brake while working the friction zone, and I mean extremely slow speed, maybe a foot or two per minute, very impressive!
I really appreciate the work you do with your channel, and what a true service you provide to the motorcycle community, thank you and stay safe!
Do you have a link for those training videos? Thanks
@@rdw3171I'm not very "Computer literate when It comes to posting links but they showed up in my "Recommended for you" after watching some of Jerry Palladino's videos.
Just picked up my new 2023 Z900 Kawasaki ABS. Been riding over 35 years. Love your tips! Never too old to learn safe techniques.
First thing I saw was both feet on the ground while the motor was still rolling. Right hand presumably on the brake lever. Turn the bars a little in that situation and it's going to fall over. We coach, "both feet on the boards if rolling, left foot on the ground when stopped." Simple practice of this during sessions and daily riding will reduce drops tremendously. Also, how does the rider ensure that the motor leans to the left for the left foot on the ground stopping procedure? Easy! just before stopping, countersteer! Yes, countersteer. Push on the left handlebar to push the motor to the left. The front wheel will be forced to the right, causing the motorcycle's weight to be more to the left side. The motor will lean to the left where your 'one foot on the ground' can stabilize the balance.
Hi Kevin, that was me two weeks ago. Pulled up to an ATM at a local supermarket on the way to work, stopped the bike (I thought), put the sidestand fully down (I thought), got off the bike and oops, down it went. I hadn’t stopped fully or got the side stand down fully. Luckily I was able to lower it down under control. First thing I did was got up and looked around to see if anybody had seen me!! Pride severely dented, bike okay!! Thanks from a UK rider for the tips in the video, I learned how valid they are the hard way! Ride safe and keep ‘em coming.
it don,t hurt to brush up...I'm 76 and ride a pretty heavy motorcycle and I still ride a bicycle to hone my balance, seems to help me...good video thanks.
Always leave it in first gear when you park the motorcycle that acts like a parking brake. People taking selfies with your motorcycle are liable to make it roll. Also had the wind blow mine forward and down it went. I tuck in my bootlace like the drill instructor taught me. Thank you Kevin
Great tips. I actually dropped it a very months ago because handlebar was turned and used front brake
Between You and Motorman Jerry, Everybody should become 100% in Every Maneuver. Thanks to Both of You, and Don't Stop.🥇😎
Every rider should support Kevin in his work. He is the best. Love your videos and always learn from them.
Thank you Al. 👍🏼👍🏼🏍
Tips are right on. I learned most of them the hard way. I've been riding on and off (mostly on) for fifty years. For the last eight years I've had a Kawasaki Versys 650 that now has 20K miles. I dropped it numerous times at zero to very low speed before I dropped the suspension front and rear by two inches (and a custom lower seat) so I could put both feet flat on the ground when stopped. I've just purchased a 2019 Kawasaki Concours 14, which is much heavier. I'm not even going to try to ride it until it is lowered, both the suspension and seat and replaced the handlebar to bring the grips up and much closer. I'm sure the Concours will be my last bike (I'm 74) so I wanted a bike that has all the features I've always wanted, e.g., ABS, ESC, shaft drive and heated grips. The only feature it didn't have, which is a must, is electronic cruise control. I've ordered a McCruise Electronic Cruise Control aftermarket accessory to have installed.
Tight parking spot? I unless I'd end up pointing downhill, I always push my bike in backwards. Makes getting out much easier, too.
I back in as much as possible
That's okay till a heavy bike falls away from you. I never get off until my side stand is down, as for parking down hill, I try to avoid that as worried about the bike moving forward and flicking the stand up as you walk away from it, seen it happen many times.
@@ukbusman I bought the Dyna Glide of my dreams; went to back into a parking space angle down hill; done that a 1000 times; this time, I must have laid a heavier hand on the left side handle bar, and my left toe was about to touch the ground while rolling backward; fell over like like a tipping barn; never been so embarrassed; thought about what I did a lot.
@@johnshields9110 I agree with backing into a parking space, but when I'm on a downhill I'll go ahead and leave the bike in gear when I shut it off, this way it's not rolling away from you
Yup I learned the hard to always think about how I'm gonna leave when I park my bike lol. Never looks cool to have to get off your bike and pull it backwards because you can't go in reverse lol
Good video. A retired NYPD officer Robert Simmons has a sight called Paying It Forward. Goes in depth on slow speed operation helped me alot. I've been riding 52 years
Even experienced riders need to take the time to brush up on their skills.
100% we get comfortable in our bad habits!
True, there is nothing embarassing in learning even if you are already a pro.
Yup, hard to look like the Badass biker picking your scooter up at a traffic light. Or the gas station,,,,don’t ask how I know...
@@jefferythomas4414 hahahaha
@@jefferythomas4414 Yep, I fell prey to failing to look properly making a simple turn. Right to the other side of the road where I had become transfixed and clipped a guard rail. Never ever thought that would happen.
Thanks for addressing DCT skills, most TH-camrs ignore it as they feel it's beneath them.
I've been riding motorcycles since I was six. I learned a lot watching these videos. It's made me a better Rider I have more control over my motorcycle I thought I knew more than what I do. Thank you for your help and support.
I'm a newer rider just shy of 3 years into it. These slow speed things have been a thorn in my side. I seem to be getting worse rather than better. Appreciate the video.
Thank you for sharing the information
Great Video! Iv been riding motorcycle and dirtbike's for 35 year's and I still wanted to watch this whole video with great information!
EXCELLENT VIDEO-----THANK YOU
This was really helpful. I've dropped a heavier bike 4 times now and I think front break and clutch being fully engaged has always been an issue.
Clutch in the friction zone + rear brakes during the slow weaving exercises around straight cones was essential for balance & control.(Cone placement was wayyy closer together than your set up here).
I failed & ran over some cones initially by increasing throttle to push through the turns & front brakes which threw my bike a bit off balance-not smooth overall.
Also, tucking both knees inward toward the tank helps with balance & control as well.
Anyway, I appreciate your hard work & helpful tips for riders out there. Your channel is probably the most organized & well thought out. Love your energy & calm vibes.
Have a healthy & happy 2024! 🎉TY!
I dropped my bike in my driveway second day I purchased it. Leaned too far maneuvering. Your video helped me tremendously.....thanks for sharing 👍
Love what you do, been over 40 yrs since I have ridden and thinking about getting a motorcycle. I miss it but it's crazy on the road even in my truck!
This man is the real deal! Thank you for your videos, I've learned a lot!
I literally love this guy. he's gift to humanity... all tips shared is true riders mindset and number of lives saved... thanks from the heart
Massive thanks to you, Kevin: 4 weeks ago I passed my 'A' licence (in the UK that means "big bike" or any cc/bhp). Although I had great instruction from my riding school, still in large part your videos were a straight-edge. I look forward to more. Thank you again and may God bless you always.
Congrats on getting you “A” license. If you haven’t done so, consider joining the forums. There is a ton of information there to help you continue to grow as a rider. www.MCrider.com/support
Technique is DEFINITELY the 🔑. I’ve gone from a 315 lb Yamaha 125 to a 550 lb BMW R1250GS in 2 years and feel comfortable on the Beemer as long as I practice what I was taught which is exactly what Kevin highlights in this video. Head up, back brake only at slow speed, good clutch control, etc. Yet more good old fashioned common sense advice from MC Rider 👍
A new rider after 25 years buying a 2015 road glide. I won’t take it on the road until I train for a month or so. Thanks for these great videos.
I just finished the motorcycle training course and I am most definitely gonna do the slow riding techniques with my own motorcycle. I learned a whole bunch there and can’t wait to apply it with my z650
Yup did a couple of these things while parking last week. I picked a parking spot on a hill (dumb choice). Then I curved through pointed out to back it in. Because of the slope I put my right foot down to help and used the front brake with the wheel turned right. So over I went to the right, down hill. I work on my slow speed skills quite often and I get lots of parking, practice, just like this one, while delivering food on my bike. Hopefully I learned my lesson on choosing flat parking spots.😎
Thank You MCrider for the tips ! Much Appreciated ! Greetings from Down Under - Sydney Australia
After 45 years of riding I dropped my new Harley pulling up to an intersection and, get this, next to the county sheriff. When he asked if I was OK I smiled and replied "Except for my pride, sure!" He chuckled and drove on.
After watching this video I realize my front tire was turned due to the slight bend in the road literally at the stop sign.
Thanks for helping out a geezer! Now to watch your other vids and join your forum.
Just got my first motorcycle this weekend, been riding around the neighborhood, its been a while since I have ridden a dirtbike in my youth. These are so much heavier, almost pulled a muscle stopping and holding it up earlier. Came right in to look for this video, thanks.
Went and looked at a Truimph legend 900 today to possibly buy it, had never dropped a bike - but also had never ridden anything that big. Test drove it in the parking lot and dropped it going 2mph coming to a stop in a parking space. Was SO embarrassed 😂 - had to go ahead and buy the bike out of embarrassment/being a man of honor. I’m glad I did because it’s an awesome bike, but I learned a valuable lesson and it bought me to this video. No front brake when going slow! Got it!
I find pushing the handle bars to make a turn and not pulling the bars helps me counter balance in the slow speed turns. The videos are great thank you. Always find something new.
You answered my question on why I dropped the bike when I stopped. It’s b/c my handle bar was not straight the moment when I put on the brakes. Thank you so much!
Best course I took used one hand through the cone weaves. Really made you look ahead and feel the bike under you. Naturally the left hand steer was slower because it was idling whereas right hand was able to throttle and go a little faster.
I am an older rider that just got back on a bike and have learned alot on these videos, thank you, no extra money for forum, can barely keep an gas in my bike(my only transpo), but thanks
The point of no return is such a rotten feeling and it can happen so fast if you get careless...priceless techniques Kevin...keep up the goid work!
Excellent traing video on slow speed motorcycle handling while significantly eliminating risk of dropping bike!
Thanks for your useful tips.
Excellent video and tips...and probably a lot of bikers have learned these tips the hard way. Thanks for your channel and videos.
Most never learn. They just keep making the same mistakes over and over again.
Very helpful! Most riders usually dump at slow speeds on the street. This is excellent information!!
This is a really good video. I like that it has a lot of well written dialogue. Friction zone: you just can't say enough about friction zone, especially in slow speed turns. I used to pickup my GF at the top of her driveway and we'd ride down to the bottom. When we got into the street, I'd stop with the clutch pulled in and stayed mounted on the bike (feet on the floorboards) and cause it to start to tip in the direction I was going to turn into the street. As the bike started to lean, I would control my lean angle with the clutch and throttle as I began to enter the street. She told me that my ability to do this with the her on the bike gave her a lot of confidence. She was also a great passenger.
I’m 61 and have a 540 pound bike with a high sitting height...while I’m trying to get stronger legs in the gym, this video is priceless information!!! Eventually I may have to downsize as I don’t plan on ever giving up riding, but I would like to stay on this one as long as I can.
Thanks for the training refreshers! Priceless! Have ridden MCs for many years. Every new ridding season I take the time to reacquaint myself with my motorcycle. It is well worth the time.
Thank you Kevin for all the helpful knowledge you impart on this channel! I’ve been watching you since before I ever rode a bike. My friends from our riding club also watch your videos! I always use what I learnt from you as I’m riding on the highways and country roads! Using your road strategies are paramount to stay safe and avoid dangerous situations! Thank you again and keep up the good work!
Thanks for the kind words! I am happy MCrider has been beneficial to you.
I learned all about the friction zone at 14 on a Ford 8N tractor with a two-stage clutch. The first stage controlled the PTO shaft and the second stage controlled the transmission. I had to barely rock the tractor in reverse while Dad lined up the 3 point hitch mounts with the implements. If I did it too much he could lose a finger. If my foot slipped off the pedal, worse could happen. Friction zone is all about control and safety.
I dropped my Rebel in the beginning few times in my driveway before I figured out the 'Rear Brake Only" thing :). No damage, but learned hard way. Now it's a habit in low speed maneuvering.
I reckon the right foot is the most underutilized control for most motorcyclists.
Mastering it ... as best you can ... makes 1000% difference in 99% of slow and emergency riding scenarios.
I find your training videos very useful. I first learned to ride a bike in 1976, have risen many times since then, but never took a riding class. I have been real lucky avoiding trouble. The bike I have now is very heavy, slow speed really gives me trouble. I think with what you have been saying and showing will help a lot.
Thanks for the continued great instruction, Kevin. Been watching your channel for a while and have picked up some key strategies. 😎
Amazing advices about how not to drop the bike! I learn a few in the hard way! Now I have a new bike and almost drop it because the side stand wasn't properly in the stand position. A miracle save the bike of an unsolicited baptism! Men! What a scary moment!
Great tip about the friction zone and the exercises! Thanks friend! Have a safe ride. I have a lot of work to do watching all your videos!
I told my teenaged son that he needs some years in a cage, especially with a manual transmission, before he gets a street ride. If you've ever driven a stick on hilly streets (especially with traffic lights like the Seattle/Tacoma area where I learned), you understand friction zones or you've dented the front end of more than a few trailing cars. My step-dad called it 'freezing the clutch.'
I almost always use my hand break on hills when in a car or truck with manual transmissions.
Hill starts are easier on a bike, imo. You can sort of hold yourself with your feet.
Learning how to ride, and this answered a lot of questions. Thank you, your content is life-saving.
Great tips. Being a big bicycler, I've realized many of the tips are similar. Of course a cycle is heavier but for the most part the same rules apply. That was never told to me in the course I took but it seemed to help once I realized that.
Great video. As an instructor myself we teach exactly what Ken is showing in this video. It’s all about technique, technique and technique. Thanks Ken.
I agree that loose boot laces can cause trouble. My boot laces kept coming undone on my bike and off of my bike. It gets annoying after putting so much effort to tie them tightly and it still happens. Yesterday I went to Walmart to get some replacement laces and discovered waxed boot laces. They hold very tight and they haven't loosened up yet. I would recommend some on a motorcycle. Or get some zip up boots. I might try that too.
@gemini232003 hahaha
gemini232003 As long as they have a no skid sole.
Very helpful tips !!!! Definitely need this info when learning the weight on heavy bikes
Hello Kevin, mostly youtube recommends things I don't really need, but I found your channel somehow and glad that I did. I am also starting back to riding after a long break of 8 years, even though I over 200K Km experience in the past, I think even though my mind thinks I can ride, my motor controls are rusty. Watching these videos are putting so much sense into practices I learnt through experience as a young rider however are lost as they are not consciously remembered. You are adding a why to every how and I think this series is great and should be used by many training schools on regular basis. As during this break of 8 years I have been driving, I realise that most car drivers who don't know how to ride need some training as well to learn how to share the road. They don;t have any incentive but it has to be learnt beyond 2 MCQ questions in the theory test on how much safe distance to keep- they don't understand why a rider moves position in the lane or would change lane or would lane split. Hopefully in the future. For now, I will try to find the field guide and polish the lost skill. A big thank you from Singapore!
Good info. I’m learning how to ride a motorcycle and there are a lot of basics that I need to work on
I did a stupid. I had the kickstand down right after I stopped to get off. However down was not totally locked in. As I got off, the bike got lazy and decided to lay down. I stayed standing and helped the bike lay down slowly. Lesson learned..Make sure that the kickstand is locked in and not just down. Great video, just a little too late for this stupid act. I learned and now I watch every one of these videos. Can always learn even after 43 years of riding.
The u-turn on the training course was a PITA for me, but i've gotten much better at it since.
had to do a rather tight one to get away from a gas pump just today.
Great tips , completely agree
Just having a look at your stuff to remind me
Currently riding an HD ultra in Rural North Yorkshire UK . 10 more days of rain and frost over here. So hankering to get out
3:17 essential in making U-turns, gotta master it because you will need it and it is A LOT easier than doing a 3 point turn.
Very important video! I used to ride long distances...but always struggling in the turns and dropping sometimes in the levelled turns... until I completely dropped riding....but still interested watching your useful videos ... if and only if will ride again.
Hi and thank you so much for this Informative video.
I really got allot out of it
I have not ridden in years and your video has really helped my confidence
I'm looking forward to being out there again.
Hey Kevin, great video as always! The very best tip I was ever given when getting my license and passing that dreaded U-Turn was to ride slow, but with higher revs and to ride the rear brake and clutch. The higher revs provides a gyroscopic effect from the engine - aiding in balancing the motorcycle and it worked a treat. I was making turns in half the required width in no time at all.
The higher revs gyroscopic effect aren't what stabilized the motorcycle. The slightly higher revs will help straighten the motor when the clutch engagement is increased. Motor skills competitors are on the edge of dropping a hundred times per run through a course. But we practice so much that we know how to take it to the edge and recover if we over-rotate.
THANK YOU for this.. as many have said, I learned things that I didn't learn in my moto safety course. we learned stopping at higher speeds, and on a straight track. using the rear brake for slow maneuvers was never discussed!
got my first bike & dropped it while rolling it, just trying to park 🤦 if you use the front brake while turning the handlebars, you're almost guaranteed to fall.. well that's exactly what I did. never again 🙃
Great video, mastery of slow control (I was taught, 2000-2500 rpm, ride the clutch and keep it there and control your speed with only your back brake), will definitely allow superior control of your bike. 👍
I make a point of always shutting off engine by putting the kickstand down. Prevents me from forgetting to lower kickstand.
Back to watching this video again. Have a larger bike now and ready to practice in a parking lot this afternoon
Thank you Sir....your videos are not only saving US trips to claims dept....but more importantly, saving the lives of us riders and others on the road.....after viewing many other rider educational videos and persons....you are my go to on a daily basis....your theory/practicum format are second to none....thank you once again....you are a blessing Sir....FREE INDEED....JOE
As always incredible tips Kevin. Thank you for your committment to assist all riders become more proficient at what we love to do.
Awesome thanks learned something new. Long time rider, still able and willing to learn
Love these videos. Thanks. Been riding 20 plus years and still learning.
Been riding bikes of all sizes for over 42 years and this was very helpful.
Thanks this lesson keeps me sharp in this area
thanks Kevin ~ valuable stuff, and appreciate the love to the scooter riders out here who need to understand how the friction zone works for us!
Even after all the years I've been riding there are still days when coming to and then stops still plagues me with the front wheel turning just a little bit trying to get the rear brake working while getting the Left foot down comfortably and holding the bike with the front brake while getting your right foot down. I haven't actually dropped one of the bikes yet but have come close a couple of times muscling it back up by doing exactly what was shown in the video and not even necessarily turning the front wheel as far as he did. Ram 2009 hi buddy gave me a video of ride like a pro guy who is all about the friction zone and that video DVD opened up all of that world to me and has made a huge difference for my slow speeds. It really works along with all of the head and eye position that he also talks about constantly in every single video he puts out.thank you Kevin for putting these things together because it is the nucleus clump of things that plagued most writers at slow speeds even after years
Why put your right foot down? Continue to hold the bike with your left foot while holding the rear brake.
@@chucksherron
Hey Chuck,. If you're riding a little dirt bike that weighs absolutely nothing yeah I can see that but when you're driving a big cruisers full fairing sports bikes and a Goldwing there are times when you're stopped and you need to wait for considerable traffic to go past and while that's happening the wind blowing you crossways can have a little bit of a ceiling effect with a large motorcycle and it is way safer to have your two feet planted firmly on both sides with equilibrium distance between them to prevent even a little bit of wind from pulling you over when it grabs the bike or the windshield.
Nice, have not seen a video on this before. I've seen many slow speed falls and I've had to rescue a few fellow riders that forgot to put the kickstand down. I don't ride a large bike, VStar 950 Tourer, but I have had a few heavy passengers and that makes a big difference in your ability to cheat or muscle the bike out of slow speed trouble. Thanks for sharing.
I attended a MSC 30 year ago and they pounded that friction zone into us.I attended another 3 years ago when I got back into riding and the instructors didn’t mention the friction zone at all. I brought it up to one and he acted like he never heard of it. Made me question the entire course.
Very, very helpful video, even for experienced riders. The comment section is also very insightful. Thanks guys.
Very helpful video, thanks for sharing Mr.
Bloody brilliant!! I'm going to practice that for sure. I'm petrified of dropping my bike. So don't want to do that. Thanks MC Rider! Superb tuition and unbelievably helpful. 😀👍