@@NevoEVReviewIreland Well, when I got into EVs with the e-Niro in 2020 I thought it's still early adopter stuff and expected my next car in 3 years time to cost a lot less and do 500km in winter on motorway. What I got instead is that the e-Niro is still competitive 4 years later. Which is a huge disappointment for me. I expected it to be laughable by now - like those thick Nokia phones with tiny screens we thought were so cool. (now driving an Ioniq 5 which is great, but still the same 500km-ish city range as with the 2018 e-Niro/Kona tech)
So was not expecting that. Did not know it was available now. Thanks for the key details up front. Nice looking vehicle, has me rethinking my view on suv. Its small enough to almost pass for non suv.
I’ve not sat in the e-C3 but it looks a lot cheaper than the 600, even allowing for the smaller battery. The Inster looks like good competition as well. And how much is the new small Alfa-Romeo? I wouldn’t look at this car for long.
Thank for an interesting review. Stellantis are doing some of the most interesting things among European car manufacturers with the price/feature/performance points they are hittting across their brands. This is about the size of car I like, though I would be happy with a coupe rather than a family SUV. I really would not feel too deprived in the driver’s seat with the features provided; the main lack is a bit of power as I still like hot hatches. Nice to see proper buttons and I also like a small infotainment screen because in some premium brands the infotainment is far too pervasive. On the infotainment point I noted a recent Porsche review where the infotainment had a small screen, so a premium brand has made the same judgement.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Top choices not necessarily in order. I like what Mini and Smart are doing. For a third I have what is becoming a desperate hope that Alfa Romeo will do something right. As you may have gathered I think the premiums brands have lost their way and purpose, but I expect I would quite like the latest Maserati EV coupe.
@@sharonec5419 I had not heard about the Citroen coupe so thank you. I quite like coupe coupes rather than fast back SUVs. I do not need much space in the back of anything, especially if it precludes children though not dogs, so a traditional coupe suits me. That is why I have my fingers crossed for Alfa.
I like it looking more 500 like. The la prima version is getting close to ionic5 teritory so is it worth another 6k for a bigger car? Once ev3 is here it could give it serious competition. Another one to hire on hols in italy. Thanks Des
I think it should sell well though FIAT has never had the same impact when compared to Peugeot . Interesting to compare it with it's stablemate the Peugeot e2008 .
At the price it seems attractive. In Ireland we no longer have many FIAT dealers. Could it be hard to sell so one could be stuck having to stick with FIATs.
Not terribly amused by this 600/500XL when it was released and still faces stronger competition inside and outside of Stellantis. Would much rather a Citroën ëC4. A true Fiat 600 would be the outgoing 500L mpv, a practical family car that really would benefit more from electrification.
The fact that this is supposed to be a larger alternative than the 500e without developing and offering any more variants based on the city EV's platform is worrying if not questionable. Why not base the new Panda on that 500e platform instead of the ëC3/Indian market car? Why not develop a slightly longer Giardinia 500-estate? There's a rear clamshell version in LHD but very little has been said for it. It's just bad news and poor resourcefulness when a sole platform is devoted to one model. It's strange given how many other triplets and quadruplets exist in Stellantis's lineup.
@@toyotaprius79500e is pre Stellantis ownership. It's from when FIAT was still FCA and that is also why its a one model only platform. Maybe they were going to develop more on it but why would they now when they have the combined resources of the stellantis group and can share platforms like the new Grand Panda with the Citroen E-C3 and Opel Frontero will all be based on the same platform. It just works out cheaper to do that I guess.
Why would you think you’d have larger rear tyres on the back of a fwd car?! lol! Base (RED) model gets alloy wheels as standard…….not steelies. You get hill hold and one pedal driving on the 500e which is obviously Stellantis. 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for all the clarification. I don't know why I checked the rear tyres either. I believe the Red is limited edition and there will be a base trim besides Red. I couldn't remember those 500e features! Why not on other Stellantis models, even the e5008 from Peugeot I drove last week
500e pre-dates Stellantis ownership so when Fiat was FCA they decided this was am important feature for a city car which is why it is (currently) EV only on a bespoke platform unrelated to any other car.
Love at first sight but unfortunately the love faded as you went through it. Would I like it as a company car? Probably Would I lease it myself? Id rather save ten grand and go Hyundai Inster instead.
I asked what dill might they give me and they said that if I got ceep reat from 11pm till 7am that my electricity would go up more by day what are people going to do when all wee want is to try too be doing the right thing so I just think I'll give up on it all they are all just out there to make as much money out of us
It is definitely a tool that should not be bought. Türkiye cannot solve the problems of the Fiat vehicle. For this reason, I want to return the vehicle. I would definitely not recommend it to my friends.
What do you think of the Fiat 600e? Let me know in the commeNts below!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Beautiful car
That's e-Niro money... (around 38k was the list price)...and that car still can't be beaten at this price.
Niro EV K3 trim at that price is serious value!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Well, when I got into EVs with the e-Niro in 2020 I thought it's still early adopter stuff and expected my next car in 3 years time to cost a lot less and do 500km in winter on motorway. What I got instead is that the e-Niro is still competitive 4 years later. Which is a huge disappointment for me. I expected it to be laughable by now - like those thick Nokia phones with tiny screens we thought were so cool. (now driving an Ioniq 5 which is great, but still the same 500km-ish city range as with the 2018 e-Niro/Kona tech)
So was not expecting that. Did not know it was available now. Thanks for the key details up front. Nice looking vehicle, has me rethinking my view on suv. Its small enough to almost pass for non suv.
Thanks for the comment! Looks like a mini SUV but not really
My favourite car it will be my next dream car I want
I’ve not sat in the e-C3 but it looks a lot cheaper than the 600, even allowing for the smaller battery. The Inster looks like good competition as well. And how much is the new small Alfa-Romeo? I wouldn’t look at this car for long.
It's down to liking the style for sure. Some great options out there
Thank for an interesting review.
Stellantis are doing some of the most interesting things among European car manufacturers with the price/feature/performance points they are hittting across their brands. This is about the size of car I like, though I would be happy with a coupe rather than a family SUV. I really would not feel too deprived in the driver’s seat with the features provided; the main lack is a bit of power as I still like hot hatches. Nice to see proper buttons and I also like a small infotainment screen because in some premium brands the infotainment is far too pervasive. On the infotainment point I noted a recent Porsche review where the infotainment had a small screen, so a premium brand has made the same judgement.
Thanks Paul. What's your top 3 choices at the moment?
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Top choices not necessarily in order. I like what Mini and Smart are doing. For a third I have what is becoming a desperate hope that Alfa Romeo will do something right.
As you may have gathered I think the premiums brands have lost their way and purpose, but I expect I would quite like the latest Maserati EV coupe.
@@PaulMeier-cu3ds Citroen are supposed to be coming out with a small SUV Coupe. You might like that. When it will come here do I do not know.
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I had not heard about the Citroen coupe so thank you. I quite like coupe coupes rather than fast back SUVs. I do not need much space in the back of anything, especially if it precludes children though not dogs, so a traditional coupe suits me. That is why I have my fingers crossed for Alfa.
I like it looking more 500 like. The la prima version is getting close to ionic5 teritory so is it worth another 6k for a bigger car? Once ev3 is here it could give it serious competition.
Another one to hire on hols in italy.
Thanks
Des
A very good review but what were the Fiat Designers thinking? A face on the front of the car?
I think it should sell well though FIAT has never had the same impact when compared to Peugeot . Interesting to compare it with it's stablemate the Peugeot e2008 .
A good difference in price between this and the e2008 too!
Cheers mate
At the price it seems attractive. In Ireland we no longer have many FIAT dealers. Could it be hard to sell so one could be stuck having to stick with FIATs.
I believe they are going to grow the network again across the country
stellantis should do what VW are doing and be friends with Xpeng
I wonder will they work with one of the Chines groups?
Not terribly amused by this 600/500XL when it was released and still faces stronger competition inside and outside of Stellantis. Would much rather a Citroën ëC4.
A true Fiat 600 would be the outgoing 500L mpv, a practical family car that really would benefit more from electrification.
The fact that this is supposed to be a larger alternative than the 500e without developing and offering any more variants based on the city EV's platform is worrying if not questionable.
Why not base the new Panda on that 500e platform instead of the ëC3/Indian market car? Why not develop a slightly longer Giardinia 500-estate? There's a rear clamshell version in LHD but very little has been said for it.
It's just bad news and poor resourcefulness when a sole platform is devoted to one model. It's strange given how many other triplets and quadruplets exist in Stellantis's lineup.
EC3 and the INSTER from Hyundai will be interesting. I'm also interested in the Panda Grande from Fiat too.
@@toyotaprius79500e is pre Stellantis ownership. It's from when FIAT was still FCA and that is also why its a one model only platform. Maybe they were going to develop more on it but why would they now when they have the combined resources of the stellantis group and can share platforms like the new Grand Panda with the Citroen E-C3 and Opel Frontero will all be based on the same platform. It just works out cheaper to do that I guess.
Why would you think you’d have larger rear tyres on the back of a fwd car?! lol! Base (RED) model gets alloy wheels as standard…….not steelies. You get hill hold and one pedal driving on the 500e which is obviously Stellantis. 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for all the clarification. I don't know why I checked the rear tyres either.
I believe the Red is limited edition and there will be a base trim besides Red.
I couldn't remember those 500e features! Why not on other Stellantis models, even the e5008 from Peugeot I drove last week
500e pre-dates Stellantis ownership so when Fiat was FCA they decided this was am important feature for a city car which is why it is (currently) EV only on a bespoke platform unrelated to any other car.
Evening mate
Evening
At that price (Prima), I think you should be comparing it to a Tesla M3...
True, but people are getting bored of everything being compared to the M3.
Love at first sight but unfortunately the love faded as you went through it.
Would I like it as a company car?
Probably
Would I lease it myself?
Id rather save ten grand and go Hyundai Inster instead.
@@DavidJohnston58 yes that looks very interesting... Can't wait to see that one around Ireland
INSTER or Ë-C3 are going to be interesting
I must say after talking with my electric Ireland today they but me right off of getting a av in my life time so sad
What did they say?
I asked what dill might they give me and they said that if I got ceep reat from 11pm till 7am that my electricity would go up more by day what are people going to do when all wee want is to try too be doing the right thing so I just think I'll give up on it all they are all just out there to make as much money out of us
It is definitely a tool that should not be bought. Türkiye cannot solve the problems of the Fiat vehicle. For this reason, I want to return the vehicle. I would definitely not recommend it to my friends.
Vegan leather = PVC..
would not touch electric in ireland plus they are scrap