2024 Fiat Panda Hybrid - is it any good?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 เม.ย. 2024
- While in Turin, we tested a brand new Fiat Panda Hybrid - a very mild hybrid with a ZERO NCAP safety rating! But is it any good?
Also includes a Tata Indica sighting because this is HubNut. Thanks to @alsodriven for the camera work.
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I utterly love these simple, non-fussy cars. No stupid touchscreen, no ridiculous digital display, no moronic superfluous gimmicks.
'Panda' is an institution and arguably one of the last few/new analogue cars on sale today. An endangered species, truly.
No auto head lights , no lane assist or any of that crap ! Absolute bliss
I love Fiat Panda's, we had an '07 version for 7 years and it was brilliant and never let us down!
Thanks for posting.
Me too a black limited edition 360 SD57WEK which I bought as a stop gap and ended up keeping it for about 3 years, last I looked its MOT expired in 2022 so no doubt finally went to the scrapyard but good to know it lasted 4-5 years after I sold it.
I suppose a Panda hybrid runs on petrol and bamboo shoots.
I'll get me coat.
Bamboo can be fermented into alcohol so in theory a Panda can be run on Bamboo.
@@tonys1636 lol, you beat me to it
I like bamboo!
Have we gone back in a Time Machine with your 1980s Mullet 😂
Surly we have - business at the front, party at the back!
Like the Zoe. It's not that the car has got any less safe - just that the test has changed a lot.
As long as motorbikes and classic cars are still on the roads those Euro-NCAP ratings mean nothing to me.
It's not actually an unsafe car, it just doesn't weigh 2-tonnes.
Vehicle safety regulations need a massive revamp imo; we can't just keep making cars bigger/heavier to be safer, then having to be even bigger/heavier to be safe against the previous gen of cars made bigger/heavier to be safer, ad infinitum.
Wrong, they took a lot out of the Zoe, it got a lot less safe
So Renault’s decision to take out the side head airbags causing the dummy to collide with the pole during the side impact test means the car hasn’t gotten less safe?
The safety rating needs to focus on what happens if you do have a crash, i.e. how will the car protect the occupants. But instead they focus on electronic gimmicks that supposedly prevent the driver from crashing in the first place.
I am a FIAT Panda fan and I get ridiculed at work for it. Had a succession of diesel (Multijet) models from 2006 until 2015 all were mark 2 models. Two are still on the road. I think that this latest hybrid version is a logical evolution of this classic design.
I would own a diesel variant in a heartbeat!
People who ridicule them have never owned one, had my 2011 for 3 1/2 yrs now and will be replacing it with another when the time comes, its on 122k, it suits my needs perfectly and returns high 40's mpg constantly from a 1.2 petrol, driven normally without economy in mind.
I loved my panda.
Cheap to run, fun to drive, the van shape means you can fit a lot in it.
So your work colleagues are wrong.
James May was not wrong on this one. He actually owned one and thought they were a brilliant little car.
@@iainmacleod4007 He was the one who put me onto them and I always said when I get in the position to have another car I'm having one, I haven't regretted that decision once.
Watching this video, I can’t get over how the streets are absolutely full of small cars. So refreshing to what we have over here with cars far too big for our roads.
Yes, this struck me too. SUVs are actually quite rare.
@@HubNut Cos the Italians are known for not showing off how rich they are to dodge the tax man...
@@megapangolin1093 Nice xenophobic stereotype. Look at the UK - a country whose laws favours the wealthy so much, they don't need to be corrupt. "The Duke of Westminster, one of the richest men in Britain, reportedly inherited the bulk of his father's £8.3bn fortune without having to pay a penny in death duties." - to give just one example.
@@julianevans9548 It was a simple joke, in fact the Brits flaunt their wealth and they like you to know you know they are dodging tax if they are very rich it is a form of patronisation. The Italians dodge tax more quietly.
Also most of them are FIATs and Lancias!
I love the panda’s 🐼 The first ones untill this latest one! No nonsense cars with lots of driving fun ! And what makes a car safe , i think a sensible driver!
I love my 2011 Panda so going by this test I'll be driving Panda's for many years to come as I really don't see me ever needing to run anything else, it suits my needs perfectly and being the age I am (54) I don't see me ever needing a bigger car.
Now that's got me looking through the classifieds at older and cheaper Pandas. I bet I'm not the only one looking 😁
I am on my 5th Panda. Love them
I’m on my 4th Panda 4x4 - does that make it a 4x4x4? 🧐
I had a panda cross as a rental in Greece this Christmas holidays and I loved it and the suspension on it compared to a regular one was more forgiving.
I've got 10 plate "169" 1.2 model and it's truly brilliant in traffic and for parking. Great on narrow county roads if I take it into the Dales. People can keep their behemoths. Ample performance on open road. Prefer square styling with old model, but this looks like a more refined proposition. Nice video.
Years ago I had an old 3 pot 1.2 Subaru Justy 4x4 ... Totally unstoppable in any depth of Snowfall/Ice.
It was replaced by a nearly new Fiat Panda FWD 1.2 ... and was equally capable and unstoppable as the Subaru.
It was replaced by a new FIAT Bravo 1.8 .... 8 years and 90,000 mile, and never missed a beat.
I was at the car show in Belgrade, and as a former Fiat Punto driver, the new Panda delighted me. Now it's a good-sized car.
All Pandas should be black and white!
I have a Panda - its white and black.
Electric Fords are doing so well in N.America, they have stopped production for 2&1/2 years, and laid off hundreds of workers. It is refreshing to see a vehicle that people actually like for a change.
No, they haven't. In fact, Mach E's and Lightnings are so common around here that you tend to not notice them anymore. What Ford has done, is reduce production of these two models, not because they aren't selling, but because the year-over-year *increase* in sales is not as great as predicted. Read that again, sales are increasing, but at a slower rate than predicted, in part because Tesla has started a price war in the segment occupied by the Mach E. They have also delayed plans for a couple of battery factories, for the same reason. No offense, but it's pretty silly to believe that they completely stopped producing EVs, and for 2 1/2 years, no less.
@@CaptHollister Don't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
@@CaptHollisterboth ford and GM have stated they are shutting down production of EVs due to the fact they can’t sell them. The showrooms are full and they can’t shift them. The dealers have even written a letter to bumbling Biden asking him to back off with the ev mandates due to lack of sales.
Ford and GM have lost billions due to EVs. They can’t keep going losing money on these things.
You need to get new sources, Gary! You're being taken for a ride and they are not looking out for your best interests, nor for US car makers.
@@CaptHollisterIn fact they loose a few tens of thousands for every one they sell, both Ford and GM 😂😂😂
We hired a Panda last year in Crete for our holiday. We loved it. Just a really decent likable small car and clearly good value. Ours was a diesel, but it was pretty quiet, romped along nicely and sipped fuel. Its size meant it was perfect on some of Crete’s narrow roads and was a doddle to park in the cities. We did quite a lot of fairly long days in it and it was never less than a pleasure. I loved its simplicity by modern car standards too. No gimmicks, just sensible transport. The type we could do with more of I would suggest.
🎉🎉🎉 greetings from greece !!! ❤❤❤
Hope the panda is well looked after, I'll buy it when it's 10 years old 😂👍🇮🇪
Absolutely brilliant video Ian ❤👍what a lovely car I'm not surprised it's still in production brilliant
In Italy, the Panda is the elderly ladies' transport of choice. My mother, mother in law and my best friend's mother all have one. It's brilliant around town.
Do they share it every other 2 weeks 😂😂😂
@@HEMI345S nope, each has their own 😅
A very well put together video. Thank you for posting.
Mr HubNut you are surly the champion of mundane motoring well done! Absolutely nothing wrong with that, its refreshing to have reviews of cars that most of us actually drive, more power to you!
SO many Panda 169s still there in the background as well as the later Pandas!! Great review, with expert camera work too!
I've always said a relatively small battery providing assistance setting off / acceleration is all a hybrid needs to do. Keep the revs as smooth as possible so the engine doesn't need to work as hard.
My hybrid, granted it's quite old now, switches to 'zero emission' mode too often and fully drains the battery very quickly just for the engine to do all the work while it recharges.
That’s a brave man who is prepared drive around in Turin. I used to visit often for work, crazy and a little scary. Having said that it was pre sat nav era so trying to navigate and deal with the traffic was a challenge. I still remember my first visit. Took a taxi from the airport into town, it drove straight through at least 6 or 7 red lights ! Apparently it was common practice back then, the authorities have since clamped down on the rather dangerous practice.
We saw a few people treating red lights as optional. Caught the morning rush hour at one point. Unpleasant!
@@HubNut it’s a great city and a really interesting place to visit. I used to work (and still do in a different way) for a company called Comau. Owned by Fiat. They supplied all the tooling for building cars fixtures, robots etc. Comau have quite an interesting history if you’re into car history. Pretty sure they will have supplied the production lines for the Panda. I’m about to start work for them on a new JLR model to be built in Halewood.
Absolutely Martin. The land-mines and bouncing bombs are notorious.
What a charming little car- to think these may well be outlawed within 10 years is concerning. You get the best bits of hybrid running and the charm of the plucky 3cyl. There's a lot to be said for these runabouts!
I don't think cars like this will be outlawed.
@@cornishhh let's hope not!
Always had a soft spot for these! ❤
We have a 2004, had it since new. Great little town car.
Nice little car. Great video, Ian.
I paid £6500 for one brand new in 2015. Great car.
9 years later its price has doubled, pss take.
Same and still got it. Panda pop
Great video . I picked up a Yaris Hybrid two weeks ago and i love it . Averaging 70 + mpg
But that's a real hybrid with the most durable automatic transmission around
another great video has always Ian and Carly miss/mrs hubnut and hublets and hubmutt 👍
An excellent little review of an adorable little Fiat
Wish they were bringing them to Australia 😊 Loving the mullet ❤
"Smells like things are burning" - Well it is italian, they're known for having electricity escaping their wiring... :P
great review, had this car as a rental car in Cilento, a hilly and desolate area in south of italy. Loved every second driving it. On hilly tracks, it requires a lot of gear changing. On longer slopes, the battery empties quite fast and than on the very steep hills, first gear becomes quickly usefull... 6th is only for maintaining a 120k/h on flat or gently descending motorways...
I hired one in Mallorca earlier this year, with only me in it was still very under powered.
Always impressed with how well packaged the Panda is, loved driving the original
Similar to my Honda CR-Z ... so i approve 😊
Great stuff mr Hubnut
Road test on the Rental car, Proper Hubnut. I drove an original Panda when they first came out while working at a Fiat Dealer. Wasn't as comfy as my 127 with the deckchair thin seats. We sold loads of them though.
We had them as courtesy cars when I was at a Fiat dealer. Always had a go in them, amazing fun, very italian & always put a smile on your face 😂 I definitely prefered the 1.2 to the 1.1 or Multijet though.
Fan fact I own the 2021 model year and I have an LPG kit added as well. It now has a combined range of 900Km.. And fbr LPG as a fuel at least in Athens Greece is affordable 0.785€ per L compared to 2€ for petrol. 30.000 km rough driving and no problems at all so far
Thank you for presenting a car reasonaby priced and in the reach of ordinary people!
A Very likable town car Ian. i saw a 66 Seat 600 and an 81 Bedford CF camper yesterday around Torrevieja
My wife had 2019 panda 4x4 twin air , it moos as it sets off 😂
I’ve tried for the last 2 years to talk her into getting something else but she just won’t let it go .
We just did 2k miles to the French alps and back in it without a hitch .
Turin, Pandas AND bloopers, what's not to like !!!!
Cool little car, 3 cylinder sounds nice 👍
Keep fit windows. Brilliant description.
Great video, Have you ever tried the 100hp? or the 695? would love to hear your thoughts on those
Actually seems like a pretty good way to do start/stop - nice and smooth with the added bonus of a little extra acceleration help and some regen.
Also, I feel we need more HubNut outtakes from time to time...
Nice little review on a nice little car .
Sounds better than the 1.0L TDe in the Clio we drive. The Italians can seeming make any engine sound nice
Inline 3 cylinder or 6 cylinder engines all sound awesome! One of the nicest sounding engine configurations in my opinion.
Panda always had class leading headroom for it's size - like them on holidays
I think it will indeed be a future classic. very good design
Great video of a cracking car. This car does most things for most people 90% of the time, and you can have fun driving it too. Super, simple, cheap to own and run. Brilliant to pick up on the curiosities driving around whilst you are driving round, the Fiat Cubo is the car to beat though. Fantastic at the price.
Oh, you've been to Italy recently too 😁When I was there, I discovered why there are many 2nd generation cars in my country (including mine) and not much 3rd generation cars. That's because they're all in Italy 😁
i feel like i would literally say the same your friend said in a previous video, it has a really small battery and hence it was mostly made to fit within gov incentives for "low emission" vehicles.
Lovely Panda ❤
First review with a wiper test, and have seen a lot ! Compliment for this practical one 😅
You must be new to the channel, windscreen wipers are his specialty!
As an american I love that you can get roll up windows a manual and steel wheels on a brand new car.
If I look out my window I also see a white Panda, but never noticed it before as it's not mine... With 70 bhp that (2024) thing should fly!
For our 25th wedding anniversary brought wife a fiat Punto 1.2 kept that for years then brought a panda 1.2 that's at nearly 80 k now and has the odd niggle .This December is our 50th anniversary so may go for the hybrid.Wife 73 in Feb 2025 so depend if she wants to carry on driving or not.At 73 will be second time have to reapply for licence it's every 3 years once get to 70
Never mind the car,congratulations on your upcoming 50th wedding anniversary 🎉
Nice review! The Panda (even new) feels like a natural "hubnut" car, a simple, no nonsense practical vehicle. FIAT calling this a "hybrid" is a bit much when it has a minuscule 11Ah 12V lion battery (there are electric bicycles with much bigger batteries) it's almost like the engineers just designed a smooth stop/start system and a marketing person said "Can we extend it a little and get to call it a hybrid for eco-creds?" While on sportier cars I like responsive steering, I do like FIATs heavily assisted steering for around town type journeys, even without "city mode" they're finger light.
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I always do my own repairs or at least the stripping myself where I can...and your " fleet maintenance " inspires me.
Quite cool. If it had cruise control it would be ideal for me for a small runaround. Thought those wheel trims were alloys too!
Still got my 07. Starts first time, every time.
My 2015 Polo has a 3 cylinder diesel and it makes surprisingly interesting noises when you push it.
Volkswagen's 3 cylinder diesel engines were designed by chopping off one cylinder of a 4 cylinder design. Sad thing is that they forgot to close the block afterwards. Seriously, after driving my 1.2 liter Lupo 3L, I wanted to buy a Fabia with the 1.4 liter TDI. The test drive lasted 5 miles and I returned in disgust. Bought a 1.9 TDI PD with months of waiting before delivery.
Either snowchains or winter rated tyres are obligatory during the winter months, which extend to the end of March.
I love Fiat Pandas full stop !
Nice to see a modern car with proper dials and switches not a touch screen. Wonder how long before Governments or Ncap ban them as hazardous and a danger for drivers and pedestrians.
Anti-collission and lane departure stuff is now demanded so they are changing it.
Genuine question: with all the extra safety why do I see so many (more?) cars in hedges and collected by roundabout chevrons these days?
@@johnp8150 Distraction?
I think they're bringing back tactile buttons on new cars as touch screens were deemed more dangerous
Anyone ever try to fiddle with a stereo or phone while driving? That's what those awful touch screens seem like to me. You should have positive analog controls and dials that are distraction free not a "smartphone in your car while you're driving" experience.
Boot looks more usable than the Mk2, I had a 2008 mk2 briefly, we were doing up our first house at the time so the Panda did many, many trips to the tip with lath & plaster + various detritus. I took everything out of the back to give maximum capacity (rear seats, carpet, spare wheel 😋) and to save damaging the interior. Unsurprisingly handled like it was drunk when severely overloaded 😅. It loved a good thrash!
I have a 2014 4x4 diesel in the same shape as that , I have done well over 100k in it , the engine bay smells like burning but it’s been fantastic over the years it’s barely had any problems ! The only problem that has done my head is that the seats rip and fall apart so so so easily ! 470 miles to £45 of diesel ! Never understood the new hybrid though , I feel like they only made it to meet EU regulations as it’s barely hybrid haha
the perfect holiday hire car
Nice irony that the test of a Panda which is finished in white with black bits on it. Any relationship between the size of the bonnet stay and the T shirt? Right car in the right place.
They are still brilliant value considering the prices of new cars today. Just under €17k over here in Ireland for a brand new one.
NCAP ratings is why safety sallies buy monster SUV's that chew up roads etc etc etc...
I like the Panda, lovely chunky design, just a bit dated and overpriced for what it is these days.
It looks a very nice panda i have always wondered if stopping and starting an engine drops the temperature and effects the MPG ? in a hybrid . I drive a panda from 2009 have done for years i recommend them if you want a cheap car that runs very frugally.
Do the airbags say Panda when they deploy?
I was surprised there wasn't more traffic. And honking.
Stereotypes, much?
We should have recorded our experiences in rush hour...
@@allenmontrasio8962 No its true. After driving in Genoa and being really stressed I started swearing, weaving and honking. My sister who'd lived in Italy for years told me "You've mastered the driving style in a few hours!"
Can’t imagine not revving out a 3cyl. 😅 They’re great for it and most aren’t going quick enough to be problematic.
It's a Dynastart Plus.
I like this review. There are eal world themes (accept the triangle of doom) and no political correctness.
Well done and thanks.
I've been after a Panda 100 for a while. Now that I'm going to move to a farm in Germany, I'll need a 4x4! :D
A great car back in the day
As a member of zipcar, I’ve driven a fair few Fiat 500 Hybrids. Personally, I can’t see the point. The fuel economy is usually around 47mpg, not bad, but less than my Mini SD which has never dropped below 53 in its 53000 miles. I had a Panda once whilst our Multipla was dissected for a gearbox fault. Simple motoring, a box on wheels. Simple as that.
Sounds like my citroen c1 👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
An interesting little car a manual hybrid with stop start and analog features a mixture of old and new in a modern car definitely a car for the people
Wind up windows in the back? No buttons on the steering wheel? I'll take one!
Panda heaven over there, I must visit ;-)
A very cool car and possibly Italy-proof.
just got a new Renault captur engineered hybrid. Lovely little car
13 year production run for the Panda and 16/17 years for the 500. Fiat came up trumps with these models.
It's a shame their bigger cars are so forgettable.
The first Pandas were made in 1980.
@@northstar1950 Yeah meant this generation Panda (mark 4?).
Perfect city car.
I do love a 3cyl weve got a ecoboost and makes a brilliant noise. My car is on its last legs with rust i keep toying with a panda 4x4 i think it wouod be great fun and i would greenlane it.
A long time ago I had a FIAT Panda 34 here in the Netherlands.
Nothing compares to a Hubnut Road test.
These are the kind of cars Fiat should be making, not $35K+ Gucci 500s with limited range.
Pity you can't have an adjustable rear seat for a bit more room when you don't need luggage space, but you need people space! 🙂
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