Does Pedro Become Casita? | Encanto Film Theory
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Today Ben dives into the magical world of the Family Madrigal and Disney’s Encanto to try and determine if after his death Pedro became Casita!
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I agree. Even his name, Pedro, comes from the word “piedra,” which means “rock.” A rock is a symbol of stability and foundation. It would make sense for Pedro to be La Casita.
Then why isn’t Casita called Casito? Casita is the feminine edition of the word
@@jellyfroglover692 Casa or “house” is an object and not a living being. A cat, for example, could be “gato” or “gata” depending on its gender, but a table will always be “la mesa,” and the article will always be feminine. Likewise, a house is an object, so the feminine article would not change. Since magic doesn’t exist in real life, a real house can’t be alive or have such movement. Disney probably had to choose between giving the house a personified article or an object article, since Spanish wouldn’t be able to simply determine that. They probably chose to stick to an object article to not make it confusing for a Hispanic audience and leave the interpretation up to the viewer, rather than outright telling you who the house is by calling it “Casito.”
Ur so smart I did not know this
@@Whatthesigma758 eh, I wouldn’t call it smart, I just speak Spanish. Grew up with it. 🤷♀️ Thank you, though
Yeah, Spanish is my first language and when talking about an object, you don’t use “it” even if an object doesn’t have a gender. You use ito or ita to describe anything small so “la casa” would be “la casita” just like “el zapato” is always going to be “el zapatito”. It all goes hand in hand with what @Elisa Rivas was saying. I don’t really know if that made sense because as a native Spanish speaker, you never specifically hear these rules you just know it😂
Bonus point - Abuela (help me, Pedro) and Mirabel (morning, Abuelo) are the only members of the family that talk to *both* Pedro and Casita (both wave to Casita when it comes alive at the beginning and end of the movie).
And this is just something I noticed, Casita is more playful with Mirabel like a grandfather with his favourite grandchild, and more serious with Abuela like two grown ups interacting with each other.
Ooh I like this point. Good catch!
Totally agree, what a great catch!!!
omg yes
This has been my theory ever since I watched: When Pedro died, he gave up the afterlife to fuse his soul with the candle, creating the magic and leaving his consciousness inside the house. For decades Pedro observed how Abuela was beginning to confuse the children’s worth with the children’s gift. So in order to rectify this and keep his wife from destroying the protection he granted their family, he neglected to give Mirabel a gift so that she would grow into the person the family needed to take a look at themselves and change the way they view the importance of the gifts.
but you can clearly see its the grandmas grief and pain that creates it the Encanto
Like shot for shot its this
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@@hipstergod I disagree. We can certainly see Alma not-yet-abuela Madrigal is upset, and at that moment the Encanto is created, but that doesn't mean one caused the other. Directly, anyway.
My working theory is that some magical spirit was witness to the event, moved by Alma and Pedro's love, approached Pedro, and offered a pact: Pedro was to become a guardian spirit for the family (a "noisy ghost" haunting the Casa Madrigal), and a servant of "the Encanto" (A magical entity similar to the Frozen 2's Ahtohallan). Pedro agreed - becoming Encanto's version of Frozen 2's 'Gale' - and the Encanto created the candle and the Casa, after driving away the attackers and sealing the entrances to the valley with impassable mountains.
The Madrigals, of course, don't know how this magic came to be, and remain unaware of this magical entity. As far as they know, the candle is the source of their magic, but that is not true. When the candle is gone, it never comes back - but the gifts do, as does Casita. Ergo, the candle is not the source.
I'd be surprised if the plot of Encanto 2, if we get one, wouldn't include the Madrigals at least questioning the source of their gifts, even if we never got a straight up answer or meet this magical entity.
@@TheRawrnstuff Amazing theory! I really like it and I'm sold.
I have thought about if Pedro would be there with other Madrigals, how would he be with his children and grandchildren. My thought is he would be more understanding and sympathetic than Abuela. This would be if "Pedro's" sacrifice would've happened a generation ago (or more generations), so it wouldn't have been Pedro, so Pedro would still be with the Madrigals and he was married to Alma so wasn't given a miracle. In this case, maybe Alma's grandmother lost her husband like Alma lost Pedro. But in this version Pedro would be alive. Because I'm kinda sad that Pedro didn't get to be with their kids as they grew up. Like read bedtime stories and play games and listen and support their (grand)children. I mean, he is there as a house but it's still different than supporting husband and (grand)father who kids go when (grand)mother is a bit too strict about things.
I don't see Mirabelle having been neglected a gift. She actually seems to have the power to change fates. The evidence for this is both the prophesy about her contsntly shifting and the fact she outright changed the fates of two of Bruno's other prophesies. The reason she didn't get a door as a child was because she was already decided by Casita to be the next Matriarch of the house. This came to be when she put the doorknob on the front door and it became "her" door by activating the house full of magic again.
Same.
Perhaps that’s why there was so much room behind the walls. Casita provided room for Bruno to still be near his family.
I think Casita wasn't as able to help the others get to the candle because they didn't ask for help and tried to just use their powers (which were going wonky and made them fall short) but when their power failed Casita made sure they were safe and got out. Mirabel was always going to have to climb and all that like a normal non powered person, so it was already more focused on helping her, and she had gotten closer than the others from the start. Everyone else it pushed out was either trying to call Mirabel to stop or wasn't going to be able to help get to the candle anyway.
this is exactly what I thought too!
Yes indeed
A distinction I would add is that Ysabel and Camillo didn’t allow casita to help them because they were so used to relying on their powers. That was why they failed
Mirabel specifically ASKED Casita to help her get to the candle. Casita responds to commands. The only people we see giving Casita commands are Mirabel and Aubela but Casita responds every time. That is why Mirabel got there. She asked for help when the others didnt.
@@JessicaClark-lq4gw exactly. They didn't ask for help and just used the powers they had! Though it doesn't only respond to commands as we see it take its own action in keeping the family safe even though none of them asked Casita for help, and also it has an amount of sentience as it "feels down" (droops) after Mirabel says Casita won't decorate itself and then Mirabel apologizes and says it could, it looks great and it "gets happy" again. Along with waving "hello" and "goodbye"
SCB: Pedro is the Miracle
MatPat on the same day: No way Pedro's the miracle
Sounds like we need a theory throwdown to settle this!
WAIT THERE SHOULD BE A CROSSOVER TO DEBATE THIS!!
Unfortunately, MatPat had nothing to stand on for this one. His argument was that Casita was feminine, so it wouldn't be a guy. Except gendered nouns in Spanish have nothing to do with the objects themselves actually having a gender. Casita is just a word that means 'little house' and can't be made masculine (his suggestion of Casito would mean 'little case', so not the same thing).
@@SgtSupaman true, but it would be fun to see if he could find more evidence with his theory brain
YES LETS GO WE NEED THE MOST AMBITIOUS CROSSOVER EVENT EVER
Actually he said that it’s definitely not the miracle but rather the house and there is someone else who thinks the miracle is Pedro
Just got a Encato film theory from MatPat and a few minutes late, we get a SCB Encanto theory. I love it. 😂💜
haha, same
ME TOO Like best day ever
Well second best day ever to Tuesday when project 863/Matthias released their latest video
I was just about to comment that thank you great minds think alike
you know you're beautiful person
The film theory literally debunked this one
@@catmancam lol yea great minds think alike you’re beautiful tooooo
I think the Casita is kinda like a Patronus or a Daemon in His Dark Material. Its sorta a part of who Pedro was and shares some similarities with him, but I dont think its a 1:1 copy of Pedros conciousness. I think the Casita is its own independent being that was created by Pedros desires and wishes to protect and shelter his family.
I think you're right because it can't be 1:1 as Casita is a female name which doesn't make much sense if it was truly Pedro
@@anikinglgrnrexx8421 well that's just bc casa/house is female in spanish
Yeah, I also was thinking the same thing. The casita is just a manifestation of Pedro’s love for his family.
So what you’re saying is Casita is effectively a love-poltergeist? Also worth considering is Casita being the equivalent of Pedro’s gift.
you should say but i don't think its a 1:1 copy of pedro's spirit because soul and spirit are not totally the same thing Because there is a difference that difference is that our soul is our mind not ourselves but our spirit is ourselves and our conscience is our senses not ourselves
The charm alma wears is called a chatelaine and it was used to hold all the keys to each part of a house, so it symbolizes that Alma is the authority of the house, and therefore is closest to it. People who would visit chateaus would be able to tell who was in charge by who wore the chatelaine. The people of the village know Alma is in charge because she holds the keys to the magic. Fashion history ftw
Pedro is not only Casita...he's Encanto. After he sacrificed himself, the house is built but also the mountains and even a different climate is created for the family and the rest of the community. He was trying to protect his family when they left their town and even his sacrifice was for the same reason. So when he's killed, he does everything he can to offer shelter to his family and the town. Also, I believe all the family powers are for protection against intruders or in battle: seeing and hearing the enemies approach, controlling the weather, plants, animals, super strength, shapeshifting, and healing (like Ajac in Eternals)
actually soul and spirit are not totally the same thing Because there is a difference that difference is that our soul is our mind not ourselves but our spirit is ourselves and our conscience is our senses not ourselves
Just to get it straight, Casita did NOT stop others from trying to reach the candle. It's just that they rely on their powers that disappear midair. Mirabel has no power and so it doesn't slow her down. Casita did throw others out, but only to protect them.
Amen! Mirabel was the most capable of reaching the candle and since all each of the others knows how to do is use and rely on their Gift. Casita knew it was losing power and could only do so much, so it got all the others out and focused the last remainder of its power, helping and ultimately protecting Mirabel with it's dying breath. That scene always makes me cry, when Casita protects Mirabel, my word!
Isabela and Camilo were actually trying to save Mirabel
Another tiny bonus (Idk if that has already been said) is "Pedro" is a variant of the name "Peter" which is derived from Greek for "stone." In Spanish, this connection between the name and meaning is more apparent with the word for stone or rock being "piedra." I know Casita is made of more than just stone, but there are definitely some hefty stone bricks that make its foundation if I remember correctly.
It makes sense! Peter is the name Jesus gives to his disciple and sucesor Simon, telling him, "You're Peter, and above this rock I will build my Church" so Abuelo Pedro is absolutely the angular stone of Casita!
I fully believe in this theory, and in fact, I believe it also solves why Mirabel didn't get a gift; Casita did not give her one because Pedro was sending her to show Abuela that she needs to come out of her cucoon. And also something that has bugged me is why they have a perfectly realistic portrait of Pedro when Castia was built after his sacrifice, and it's because Pedro is Casita, and Pedro knows what he looks like (I also just find it incredibly amusing that Pedro is this huge, amazing, magical house and he still put a picture of himself in it)
Despite never hearing Pedro speak, and having about 5 minutes of screen time total, he 100% seems like the type of person to put a massive picture of himself in the middle of the home so all his family could still see him
@@Beth-zs2jr truuue😂
When I first read this, it felt like a real mindblown moment. But after a few minutes, I realized the painting of Pedro that hangs in the stairwell is the same as the painting in Alma's locket (see 11:02). Which really makes it seem like Alma just showed a painter the locket and said, "I want a larger replica of this."
@@Beth-zs2jr It would be so wholesome if he inserted himself into a family photo
I don't think that the painting was created by Casita. I think, the painting is part of the artwork throughout the community of the Encanto, where you see murals and decoration all over. The painting is a larger version of the picture that Abuela has in her locket and was probably created as a gift for her by one of the grateful members of the Encanto. I do not think that every item and decoration in Casita was created by Casita. Many are likely things that were purchased or gifted from the community itself. I am sure that there are many people who wish to show gratitude to the Madrigals for family members healed, houses fixed, special days made perfect with weather Pepa created, etc. I would assume that it is the same with some of the clothing that they have (though it is clear that Mirabel creates much of her own).
I love when cassita shielded mirabel from the house falling as its final act
I absolutely love the idea of Pedro becoming the Casita, but I like the idea more that the Casita is the manifestation of Pedro's desire to help his family. He didn't have a concept of magic when giving up himself, so his priority is the family and it feels like the Casita has the same priority: keeping the family together and helping them work together
At the end of the movie, only Mirabel asks the casita directly for help to get to the candle. Camilo and Isabella use their gifts to get to the candle, but their gifts fail them as their doors break. It is because Camilo can’t shift again and Isabella’s vines fail, that they can’t reach the candle. Once their gifts fail, then casita rescues them too by breaking their fall.
To me it always seemed like his soul was infused in and gave life to the Casita.
@Grian huh Grian?
you should say like his spirit was infused in and gave life to the Casita because soul and spirit are not totally the same thing Because there is a difference that difference is that our soul is our mind not ourselves but our spirit is ourselves and our conscience is our senses not ourselves
I have this theory that for most of the gifts, they are partly influenced by what Abuela and the family needed at the time. The magic house was so Pedro could help his wife, now a single mother could have help raising triplets by herself. The triplets gifts showed her healing, hope for the future, and a outlet for emotions. The grandchildren gifts showed her beauty, strength, (Isabella and Luisa) while being able to know what the villiages needs are and being able to do a little bit of everything to help them. (Delores and Camillo) But then it comes to Mirabel, and I think that's when part of Abuelas responsibilities pass down to her, as I think SHE is the one the gives Antonio his gift of speaking to animals, she literally gives him a gift of a jaguar beforehand and walked beside him during the candle ceremony the way Abuela had for the rest of her Grandchildren. So I think as the Madrigal gets more members, it will become more obvious that Mirabel actually has a hand in what gift they get.
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I think Casita is actively pushing Mirabel and Abeula apart. Casita can for pour drinks, move furniture around and a lot of other things. So why didnt it stop the decorative candle Mirabel was putting out from falling over and burning the handmade decorations she made to contribute something to Antonio door ceremony.
If you have cracks in the foundation, sometimes you have to fully break it, before you can fix it.
Maybe Casita felt the tension and didn’t want to witness any of their interactions so just went to entertain Bruno or somethin 😂
r/ihadastroke
i think not really breaking the two, but moreso putting Mirabel at a distance so that the family will finally have someone who sees how broken the family is from an 'outsider's' point of view. Pushing Mirabel and Abuela apart is just a key instrument to fulfilling this. That, and not giving Mirabel a miracle, then eventually giving another for a younger relative. All of this leads to Mirabel beginning to ask the right questions to everyone, which then leads to her fixing the unseen mess.
I feel like whenever Abuela is around, the magic is more restricted or subdued everyone else. Like even if Mirabel has this relationship with Casita, does anyone ever see it? Or does it only "talk" to her when she's alone? Like we see in the opening scene she seemed to be up before almost everyone so she gets the table set by asking Casita for help and it rolls out the plates and cups for her. When the rest of the family is awake, it does little things like moving Mirabel's chair next to Abuela without a command or changing the tile for Antonio's ceremony but it's rarely as long or grand as when Mirabel is interacting with it. So it doesn't help unless Alma wills it to. And it does seem odd that Mirabel needs little to no help setting the table for breakfast but when everyone else is around, they clearly have a routine for setting the table for dinner. It can move furniture, yet the others always make Luisa do it. And I don't mean they don't know it's sentient, we see the others have their moments with it, but they never see how Mirabel makes the place feel more alive than when they see it do it simple things like pour coffee and move the shutters.
Love the Theory!
And as a Catholic and Disney Fan: the Immaculate Conception (Dez 8th) is not about Jesus being miraculously conceived (that we celebrate on March 25th) but that we believe that Mary, from the moment of her conception, was without original sin. (So she could be a worthy vessel to actually conceive God)… cuz we all love accuracy, right? 😙
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Was scrolling to see this comment, and now I’m satisfied. 😂 I used to go the Immaculate Conception of BVM Church as a kid.
Was hoping someone else noticed. 🙂 absolutely loved this theory ❤️
I'm so happy some pointed this. I was yelling at the TV every time he said it incorrectly l, as it is a common misunderstanding.
My wife and I had to stop the video to come comment this. Feast of the Immaculate Conception is Mary being conceived without Original Sin, not Mary conceiving Jesus. I had to scroll down too far to find a comment on this. I hope you get more upvotes.
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I don’t know if I’m the only one, but Pedro’s sacrifice reminds me of James and Lily’s sacrifice for Harry. I don’t know if this makes sense, but hear me out. Pedro probably knew that he wasn’t actually going to be able to stop the soldiers; James and Lilly knew that they wouldn’t be able to stop Voldy, but following the sacrifice the threat was immediately taken out and began to protect who they were sacrificing themselves for. This allowed Alma to raise their kids, but without Pedro and allowed Harry to grow up, but without his parents. Lmk if you agree💕
Amazing Video Today!!! I love the idea that Pedro was still there for his family even though they may not have known
Pedro definitely knew. Don't know about the rest but Pedro knew, he went in to slow them down so Alma and the others could run
Honestly idk why but Pedros portrait really stood out too me, like casita clearly made it and recognizes him.
Casita definitely is Pedro it just makes sense. I also think when Mirabel "didn't get her gift" Pedro (as casita) did give her a gift. She seems to have a special connection with the house just like Abuela but beyond that I think Pedro left some magic in her. When she touched the doorknob the candle flickered meaning it was weakening. Pedro (casita) sensed the family growing apart and also was watching the family waiting for someone he could get to help him protect the family. Mirabel had all the characteristics needed, kindness, hope, understanding, compassionate, brave etc. So he chose her to be the next Abuela or "the one who runs the show". In doing so he gave her the ability that if the house should fall the magic and Pedro's spirit could return. As long as the house was still there. She even gets a door at the end of the movie. With Mirabel in the middle surrounded by her family. Her door leading to her "room" which is casita.
actually soul and spirit are not totally the same thing Because there is a difference that difference is that our soul is our mind not ourselves but our spirit is ourselves and our conscience is our senses not ourselves
I appreciate the look into the Colombian cultural clues, but this one ran into a common misconception that might want to be corrected for a movie celebrating Colombian characters. The Day of the Little Candles is the eve of the Immaculate Conception, but the Immaculate Conception doesn't refer to Jesus' being conceived in Mary, it refers to Mary being conceived in her mother (traditionally St. Anne).
(Jesus' conception is celebrated on the Feast of the Annunciation, March 25th, 9 months before Christmas celebrates his birth)
Yes, exactly. Tradition holds that Mary was given the gift of being conceived without the stain of original sin, making her Immaculate from the very start of her life. Preparing her to be the Mother of God.
I’m not familiar with Colombian culture, but I thought that but was off, how can Jesus be conceived on the 7th and be born the 25th? Unless he was in the womb for over a year, it just didn’t make sense.
So when I first started watching scb years ago for some reason only J's videos were recommended to me and he always signs off with "see you in another life, brother." So I always thought this channel was a tribute to his dead brother until a week or two later a video with Ben pops up. Anyways love your channel guys!
That's so sad 😭😭 They've mentioned on an episode of the pop how they imagined saying that at the end of the others eulogy someday 😭😭
The town and his own family didn’t understood Bruno’s power. The whole song they are singing “He said… this and that” but when we get to see Bruno’s power he uses the green mirror and has to have a circle of sand around him (or at least something with the sand idk remember). I doubt that every time someone ask him for a “prophecy” he would use his power. He would only tell what through time will actually happen. Like the fish… a fish it isn’t eternal, so most like he would die at some point. And we saw Bruno he is an awkward and quirky guy, and with his power he is probably a very perceptive person. I mean if everyone at the town would be bombarding you for prophecy you would probably be saying the first thing that comes to mind, just to get away. The baldness, getting fat and the fish, was probably something that anyone could had seen coming and not necessarily a prophecy. Again if you are a person who sees the future you are probably very perspective just to know what it means and not to miss any details. With Pepa, he knew that she controls the weather with her mood, and she must had been nervous that day. Bruno may have not intended to become a Hurricane and just to ease the tension he said “it would rain” not to be of harm, just cuz he wanted to relax her sister, but Pepa instead of seeing it as a joke, she let it get into her head. And with Dolores I have no clue, isn’t like he knew 10 years ago that Isabelle would with Mariano and she liked him. But again it could be just about perception. If Dolres had a crush on him a 10 years ago and The families we already to commit Mariano and Isabelle then maybe….
I thought about that as well. You don't need a prophecy to know someone's goldfish is going to die, you just need a working pair of eyes. The same is true of baldness and gaining weight. It's something that would have been easy to extrapolate from current conditions, but no one wanted to admit it. I absolutely believe Bruno was just his awkward self when he told Pepa, "Looks like rain". He was trying to be supportive, but he has a hard time expressing himself and everyone assumed the worst.
I also think his prophecies are not set in stone but more like warnings, a pathway in a multitude of pathways but the one that it's currently being walked on and that you have the possibility to change.
@Balance of The hill I'd bet every prophecy he had was inconclusive because the future is never set in stone :D I think Mirabel saw that too.
In the end Bruno sings " It wasn't a prophesy I just saw you were sweating" meaning rain was just a joking way to say Pepa was sweating. In my opinion this makes more sence.
@@aangomesbranco But Bruno told Mirabel that “Your prophecy would change. Like there was no clear answer, no clear fate… like your future was undecided” So that probably means that most of his prophecies are set in stone, otherwise he wouldn’t have thought this was weird
Note: the immaculate conception is actually when Mary was conceived as she was born without original sin. It’s not the conception of Jesus.
Short Answer:"Yes. Yes he does."
End of Discussion XD
I saw a couple of comments about casita vs casito - Casita is little house, and casa is always a feminine word in Spanish, to my recollection, so i think it would be casita regardless.
In any case, I agree with your thoughts, Ben. 😁
Yes. You’re right. Casa is a feminine word with no other gendered options.
Wait … people are trying to miss gender Spanish grammar? Lol …. Weird
@@stephaniequintana3072 It was a point in Mat Pat's video also released today that Pedro couldn't be Casita because then it would be Casito... less of a misgendering and more of a plain old language fail.
@@stephaniequintana3072 well, Spanish is a heavily gendered language, and sometimes there are other “options” for a word. For example, the word for grandparent (abuelo) changes based on the gender(s) of the person or people you’re referring to. Other words, however, don’t change no matter what. These are typically objects/nouns. Words like casa will always be female. Carro will always be male. And then you have some oddballs like “el mapa” or “la foto” where the pronoun/gender doesn’t necessarily match the word ending. Although, those two words are derived from longer words with those respective gender endings (el mapamundo and la fotographia). All that is to say, it’s very easy to get confused. But it’s sad that MatPat made such a big mistake because I feel like Latin culture is already super misunderstood, and people don’t take the time to look into it.
@@oliviateitelbaum4362 I’m a fluent Spanish speaker. I know all of this 😂 but thanks for the lesson I guess. I was more alluding to the fact that some people try to be “extra woke” and get upset about the Spanish language “having genders” because “why does a pool have to be a female!!” “Why does a book have to be male?!?!!” … no Spanish speaker is literally saying objects have a gender its just simply the language and how the grammar works.
I’m not aware of the other video people are referring to that says “Casito” but it appears this is not that case, but it does exist. I’m all for gender identity of people and try my best to be conscious of peoples pronouns and gender identities but not so much when people get upset about what I mentioned above.
This was my theory as well, but I didn't stop there!
Not only that Pedro is the Casita, the reason that the house is falling apart - is because Pedro's soul is dying because of old age (he should be around Abuelas age by now..)
The moment the butterflies swarm into the sky? his soul finally moved on to the next world (final stage of dos oruguitas).
So how come the Casita came alive at the end? it wasn't Pedros soul holding it together, it was Mirabels gift!
Mirable didn't get a room, because her gift was the entire house. (or the ability to keep it alive).
Pedro sacrificed his own body and soul in order to become the Casita.
Mirabel didn't have to sacrifice anything, as this time the house was built by the help of the town.
NOoooooo😢
@@aisleelovegreenwood6448 thanks! So many great theories out there, even in this towel section alone 😎
I agree with everything you said. Except the part about Mirabel not sacrificing anything. Mirabel, aside from Pedro, has sacrificed more than all her family put together. She has to struggle with every day life as a normal human and still manages to keep up. She is also under cobstant judgement by her family. She loves her family, but they all think her to be less than them. You can clearly see this in the intro in the way she keeps being told to stop trying to help, because she's only getting in the way. Even her mom and dad do it. They just try to do it less condescending. Mirabel's room is not even her room. It's the nursery. She's basically Harry Potter under the stairs. Her family treats her like trash, just because she has no gift.
@@jonatansverdiolas486you should say is because Pedro's spirit is dying because of old age and his spirit finally moved on to the next world and it wasn't Pedros spirit holding it together, it was Mirabels gift! and Pedro sacrificed his own body and spirit in order to become the Casita because soul and spirit are not totally the same thing Because there is a difference that difference is that our soul is our mind not ourselves but our spirit is ourselves and our conscience is our senses not ourselves
I got the impression that Pedro was Casita on the first watch and I love the idea of him being this enthusiastic and supportive husband, just like Felix and Augustin. It's also sad to see how his own gift became a burden though as Mirabel is the only one who talks to Casita like a member of the family. You never see anyone else interact with it unless it's because they want something.
I had not thought about it much, but your justification has convinced me. I was thinking he was the candle, but the house makes more sense. The house (or abuelo) also watches over Bruno and maybe created that hidden space for him to hide so he wouldn't have to leave.
I have been loving the Encanto content recently! Encanto was my absolute favorite movie of last year, maybe even my favorite movie of all time, if not top 3 and I have listened to the soundtrack more times than I can count! Bottom line is, I loved this movie and I love how many theories you guys have brought from it
Yep, makes total sense. It's so cute! The house waving at Alma after first being built, too.
“Home is where your heart is”
And for Abuela that has always been Pedro.
And I love how Mirabel always says “Ola Pedro” and the house has some type of response after like she knows it’s Pedro.
I 100% agree Pedro is casita. I noticed when watching the movie because his photo is at the center of the house and Casita waved to both Alma and Mirabel the same way Pedro does when he first met Alma.
Ya know I’ve always thought of the house as Pedro, makes Pedro more part of the movie then just a “flashback character”. ❤️
Also makes it sweet/hurt to see Bruno help is Home/Dad with his broken walls🥺
Something I havent seen discussed is how Abuela Alma was projecting heavily on Isabella before Mirabel saved the Miracle. Abuela dotes on Isabella hard because she's a striking resemblance to when Abuela was young. She wants Isabella to marry Mariano because he looks so much like Abuelo Pedro. Like, if this were a novela, Abuela totally would have had a scandalous relationship with Mariano.
The character of Pedro is inspired in Mauricio Babilonia, a character in the novel One hundred Years of Solitude by Colombian author Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Mauricio is always followed by golden butterflies eveywhere he goes.
What tipped me off was the grill scene at the party. It reminded me of my grandpa, he loved to barbecue and was always at his grill whenever he had the chance. A lot of Spanish grandpas love to grill and they do it with so much vigor.
I had this same thought as soon as the candle appeared. "Oh, is this the grandfather?" It never ended up being said, or even hinted at, though
I think you guys should read "100 años de soledad" by Gabriel Garcia Márquez, Encanto has a lot of influence from that book
So I don't know if there are other comments sharing this, but I wanted to offer a little bit of a correction. The Immaculate Conception isn't a day celebrating the conception of Jesus, it is actually in reference to the belief that Mary was conceived without sin. Without stain of sin is where the phrase "Immaculate" is taken from. The conception of Jesus would be March 25th as it 9 months before Christmas.
December 8 is the conception of Mary. Annunciation is basically the conception of Jesus on March 25, but the church barely celebrates it because it's in the middle of Lent. A lot of people get that wrong.
Just a quick correction to a common misconception, the feast of the immaculate conception is the celebration of Mary's conception. Its immaculate because she was conceived without the stain of original sin. Jesus's conception is celebrated on March 25
A brazilian youtuber adressed this very same theory a while ago and compaired it to Constance from “Monster House”
Not to mention the fact of his name Pedro literally meaning “rock” or “stone,” as in the mountain range itself surrounding the Encanto village that cracks apart the exact moment that Casita crumbles apart.
Correction: December 7th is the immaculate conception of Mary in her mother's womb. It's honoring the fact she was chosen to live a virtuous life herself, in order to one day carry Jesus (whose conception occurs way earlier in the year).
Had the same theory since watching it. There's also a shot during the destruction of the casita which focuses on the picture of Pedro falling. Like it was such a deliberate shot for no real reason that it felt like the film makers were trying to show the connection. Like the destruction of the casita also meant theyd loose the connection to Pedro's spirit as well
actually soul and spirit are not totally the same thing Because there is a difference that difference is that our soul is our mind not ourselves but our spirit is ourselves and our conscience is our senses not ourselves
Also that song is so bittersweet
The whispering at the end made me actually laugh out loud. Thanks Carlin Bros!
When I was watching the movie I thought he was the house from the beginning, he literally moved mountains to protect his family.
I couldn't help laughing when Ben implied that Pedro would've somehow tried to fight off the soldiers. He clearly went to them in an attempt to speak or reason with them, not only because they were armed soldiers, but also because Pedro held his hands up in the universal sign for "I come in peace". 😅 Imagine a scene where Pedro just busted out his Kung Fu moves and beat all of them up so everyone could escape to safety. That would've made for a very different type of film.
Just an fyi, the Feast of the Immaculate Conception celebrates when Mary was conceived, not when Jesus was conceived. It celebrates how Mary was conceived without original sin.
Just rewatched Encanto and boooom there's another SCB video about it. Love it.
The best way I would put it: There's no Casita before Abuelo dies, and after he died, there's Casita. Coincidence? I think *NOT!*
Encanto is amazing, the music is so well written and the movie is too! I don't think any of us are complaining that you guys are still talking about it 👍
I think Casita knew they'd gone too far to stop the destruction, so it was trying to push them all out to protect them. Once again, Pedro was putting his family before anything else.
You know a commentary is good when you are crying during it. 100% have thought this since the first watching. Casita is Abuelo. :)
i saw someone say that directors stated that isabella and camilo weren’t going for the candle but for mirable so i think that’s something notable too
Love this theory!! Feel like it also ties into all the Casita interactions that include a camera pan to the Pedro portrait.
I 100% believe Pedro's spirit went on to become Casita. You can tell from the way Casita is willing to do anything to help the family in any way. But I don't think his consciousness is there. I believe he's dead, not an immortal being. But his love and sacrifice, his soul, powers the magic of the house.
Edit: After watching matpat's theory, I'm thinking Pedro was literally the house all this time. Conscious, watching his family, protecting them. The candle is representing the fact that he is there with them, burning as part of the constellation. Then he sends Mirabel. A kid with no powers but with the same love and dedication he had. When the candle goes out, I think that's Pedro leaving. He knows Mirabel can handle things and protect the family as the next matriarch. His family is safe, and he can rest. When the house is rebuilt we don't see the candle again because Pedro is no longer needed and can move on. But the house is still powered by his spirit and original sacrifice, which is why the magic came back.
you should say but i don't think his spirit is there and but his love and sacrifice, his spirit because soul and spirit are not totally the same thing Because there is a difference that difference is that our soul is our mind not ourselves but our spirit is ourselves and our conscience is our senses not ourselves
Pedro also waves goodbye as the magic leaves Casita. The shutter waves.
OOPS - the Catholic feast of the Immaculate Conception is NOT the conception of Jesus - that would be on March 25, aka the Annunciation. The Immaculate Conception is when MARY was conceived. The Catholic Church teaches that Mary was conceived without original sin so that she would be a perfect vessel for the son of God. We celebrate that on December 8th.
I thought about this a few times but I am always amazed how Ben and J always manages to convince me even for the most far fetched theories. But yeah, I'm totally on board with this one. A dad will always protect his family. Even in CASITA form. 👍
Haha, same. Like the Meg/Mother Gothel vid
I noticed that when Mirabel touches her door, the family pictures behind Abuela are in a different place than when we see them later.
When Mirabel is 5, the pictures are to the left of the nursery door. And Mirabel's door is between Luisa and Isabela's doors. But then later, the pictures are between Abuela and Pepa's doors. Any idea as to why? Did Abuela not want the pictures next to Mirabel's room?
Btw, the immaculate conception is Mary's conception, not Jesus'
Pregnant Jesus confirmed?
@@yubelious5584 The conception of Mary. So St. Anne got pregnant with Mary, who was born without sin, making it the immaculate conception
ALSO ALSO WHEN THE FAMILY FINISHED THE NEW CASITA AND THE MAGIC RETURNS THREW THE LAND AT 1:30:13 THE MOUNTAINS ARE SHOWN (IF YOU PAUSE) TO BE RESTORED. THE FAMILY GOT THERE POWERS BACK AND SO DID PEDRO SO HE CAN PROTECT THEM.
She also said “I hold on too tight”at the end.
Hi friends! This error has come up more than once on your channel, so I thought I'd offer some clarification. In Roman Catholicism, the "Immaculate Conception" is referring to Mary being free of original sin from the moment of her own conception. The "Incarnation" is the term for when Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb. It's a common misconception, so I hope this helps :)
The Immaculate Conception is not about Mary becoming pregnant with Jesus. It is St. Ann becoming pregnant with Mary and Mary not having original sin, "immaculately clean" to be the perfect person to eventually have Jesus.
This is your first video that made me cry. Having lost loved ones in my family the void left by them is only partially soothed by looking around my home and seeing them metaphorically in my family. Whether by design or not this is an amazing note added to the movie, thank you for opening my eyes to it.
For those who can’t understand Dos oruguitas, they put the translated version of that song in the end credits
The SCB never ceases to amaze me.
Just FYI, the Immaculate Conception is the miraculous conception of Mary (Jesus's mother) without original sin, according to Catholic tradition. Jesus's conception was traditionally held to be March 25, exactly 9 months before his traditional birthday of December 25.
It hadn't occurred to me that Pedro was Casita, but the explanation makes perfect sense!
When I read the title of this video alone I was already on board. he sacrificed himself to protect his family (and the people who escaped with them) and from that sacrifice is not just a home for his family but an entire village/town for all the people who needed somewhere to go. He protects them, literally shelters them, loves them and watches over them. And I mean the way the movie zooms in on him at the opening and when the house is falling apart really just sells this even more as though to say "he is here" and "he is dying (again)"
The fact that this came out half an hour after matpat just debunked this...
MatPat's theory felt a little like a rip off of the video SCB uploaded YESTERDAY th-cam.com/video/iviqw_rpyWA/w-d-xo.html
besides, he based his reasoning on a grammatical error: Spanish is a gendered language, and “casita” (the diminutive of "casa” is a feminine word. It wouldn’t be “casito” even if it housed (no pun intended lol) the spirit of a man.
@@LibreDeCulpa ah! Thanks for clarifying, I honestly dont know any spanish. As for the rip off, great minds think alike. Matpat has a longer video making time, so his vid just came out later. Suffice to say, I'm convinced
@@ButWhySeventeen not to be rude, but if you don't know any spanish, maybe don't try to use it as an argument?
I had that same theory too! Casita has the same playful personality of Abuelo Pedro! 😊 But just a little clarification, the Immaculate Conception is actually about Mary being born without original sin, which all the humans born with. It's a Catholic Church's doctrine that states that Mary could only give birth to the Messiah if she was free of any spiritual impurity. But besides that, I'm glad that you pointed this feast out. 😊
Alternate ending: at the end of the movie when mirabel "brings the house back" by putting in the doorknob it didnt come back alive and everyone was very sad and confused for a moment and then someone taps pepa julieta bruno and abuela on the shoulders and they they see pedro standing there and he does the classic casita wave and there is this moment where its really emotional and they are hugging him then he turns to mirabel and hugs her and says "I always knew you had a gift" then its really emotional again then they all hug and it fades out and the movies over.
When you think about it Pepa, Bruno, and Julieta's powers all make sense for what was going on in the encanto. They were still getting settled so what they needed most was proper weather to grow food, a doctor, and then to know what the future brought in case their safe haven wouldn't be so safe
Quick fact check, the Immaculate Conception does not refer to Mary’s conception of Jesus. That’s March 25. The Immaculate Conception is the date when Mary was conceived by St. Anne. It’s a common mistake, but wanted to let you all know.
The immaculate conception isn’t Mary’s conception of Jesus, rather St Anne’s conception of Mary. Stating that Mary was free from original sin from the moment of her conception.
Another clue that Abuela is still cocooned is that her verse in The Family Madrigal is actually the melody of Dos Oruguitas.
Showing she is still trying to keep the memory of Pedro alive, even if it's only her who knows?
I LOVE THIS THEORY!! And it's crazy to me that anyone watching Encanto can relate to one of the characters regardless of age or where they are in life. We are constantly learning and growing throughout our entire life and this movie shows that in each of the characters which is beautiful.
December 7 is the eve of the Conception of Mary, not Jesus. Jesus’s conception is celebrated on March 25 (Feast of the Annunciation) - nine months before Christmas. (Mary’s birthday is celebrated September 8., so nine months after December.) Your analysis still works, of course! The miraculous aspect is still there.
ALSO, I was wondering where they got that big portrait of Pedro. Portraits are expensive and Alma and Pedro are unlikely to have had a portrait done before he died. And artists can't usually paint dead people. So the portrait was part of the magic.
Agreed. Everything they brought from home was in Pedro's pack, which was definitely not big enough to carry the portrait (nor do I think it would be considered enough of a priority to bring). It's possible one of the townspeople did it afterwards but I suspect the magic created it, especially because there are little butterflies in the corner of the portrait.
Notice, though, that Alma has a locket with that same picture in it. My opinion is she had whoever did the big one copy the little one she already happened to have
@@sabinamcdaniel7412 that's a good point. I forgot about the locket. I hope it is magical though as I just like that idea better
Maybe it was a camera though, I do remember that cameras were present in the movie.
@@wantedbird55srandomchannel28 Yes, but the "present" day is 50 years later. Pedro likely died in the early 1900s, when cameras weren't easily available even if they had been invented.
"see that pronounciation? that's how it's done, J"
narrator: that was, in fact, not how it's done
In an interview, one of the creators of Encanto said that the candle symbolizes Abuela's unconditional love for her family. It wavers when Mirabel doesn't get a gift because of how upset Abuela is in the moment, causing her love to also waver. It only goes out entirely when Abuela realizes that she had, in fact, been putting conditions on her love for her family without realizing it for years.
Common misconception that the Immaculate Conception is the conception of Jesus. It actually refers to the idea that Mary herself is conceived without original sin. Slight correction but great video!
*triggered* immaculate conception is _Mary's_ immaculate conception. As in, when SHE was conceived without original sin.
Sorry. I just had to say it.
Game theory did an entire episode saying he's NOT casita and I absolutely love that not only have you both come up with equally plausible theories, but both of them are entirely contradictory.
I personally prefer the theory that Pedro is Casita. Not only because it would be adorable but also bc he had that goofy personality that Casita has. When the village kids try to get to Antonio's door the house corrects them by making a slide downstairs, the same way Pedro would probably try and distract them with something silly instead of making them feel like they're in trouble. It just fits so well.
I’ve seen 20 million videos about thoughts and theories about the movie Encanto, and I got to say I LOVE each and everyone of them. Despite how similar some may seem, EVERYONE brings their own little take to it. Hence why I love watching each and everyone of them ^-^
Great video, need to correct one thing though. The Immaculate Conception is when Mary was conceived, not Jesus
The immaculate conception is not the conception of Jesus it’s the conception of Mary because Mary was born without sin
I think it's important to note here that the candle itself isn't the real origin of the miracle. Note how the new version of the house actually doesn't include the candle. It's just one possible manifestation, but the miracle itself doesn't need a physical hook.
The candle is also a symbol that is meaningful to Abuela, of course, given that that's how she and Pedro first met.
IF PIEDRA MEANS ROCK THEN IT MAKES EVEN MORE SENCE THAT HE TURNED INTO THE MOUNTAINS. THE FIRST "MIRACLE" WAS THE MOUNTAINS SHOWING UP TO HIDE THE VILLAGE RIGHT AFTER HE PASSES. AND RIGHT AFTER HIS PICTURE FALLS DURING THE HOUSE COLLAPSE SCENE THE MOUNTAIN SPLITS!!!!
Hey Ben love the video but I wanted to politely point out that the Day of the Little Candles is a celebration of the immaculate conception which celebrates the conception of Mary without Original Sin not the conception of Jesus.
So you mention that December 8th is the celebration of the emaculate concept of mary, and reference that it is jesus being conceived, however this is incorrect. The emaculate conception of mary is a reference to mary being born without original sin, so that she could later be a perfect vessel for Jesus (among other things and highly simplified). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception
I think that it makes sense that Pedro is Casita for all the reasons you mentioned, and also it seems like Abuela and Mirabels gifts are their connection with the house and the miracle. There are three butterflies on Pedro's portrait, which I think alludes to all of them. Dos orugitas respresents the relationship between Abuela and Pedro, but also Mirabel and Abuela. The fact that Mirabel and Abuelas' gifts are both related to the house and they are also the "butterflies" mentioned in the song along with Pedro, I think helps support the idea that Pedro's spirit is Casita if that makes sense. Also I think how the portrait of Pedro falls when Casita is crumbling could be evidence.
actually soul and spirit are not totally the same thing Because there is a difference that difference is that our soul is our mind not ourselves but our spirit is ourselves and our conscience is our senses not ourselves
i thought i should just add this, what you called a charm on abuela's dress is actually called chatelaine, it's a thing that you clip to your waistband and hold things on the chains. abuela has a pocket watch, a locket with a picture of pedro and a key which is presumably for casita