You Should Probably Let It GO

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  • It's important to know when to let it go.
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  • @tabletopminions
    @tabletopminions  ปีที่แล้ว +31

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    • @sjogzor
      @sjogzor ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Æ?

    • @nanorider426
      @nanorider426 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sjogzor Å?

    • @icewindofchange
      @icewindofchange ปีที่แล้ว

      Ç

    • @partytor11
      @partytor11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ÅÄÖ?
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    • @Recker1984
      @Recker1984 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take a look a ninjon for how to make super good gap filler that works awesome its glue + leftover sprue

  • @MrFahqup
    @MrFahqup ปีที่แล้ว +226

    Pile of shame is slowly converted to a smaller "Prime" pile. From there it's converted into a much smaller painted pile. It's a process. Like tracking a glacier's movement.

    • @waynesolo
      @waynesolo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Like tracking a glacier's movement." Totally made me chuckle. 😄

  • @TheSianFromAtlantis
    @TheSianFromAtlantis ปีที่แล้ว +206

    I will never get tired of hearing you being sensible, decent, and affirming. I always feel better after watching your videos and that's something I can't say about a lot of TH-cam, frankly.

    • @calvanoni5443
      @calvanoni5443 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And then take no action, like a Hoard Boss!

    • @kenrickdavis5355
      @kenrickdavis5355 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I listen to him while jogging 😂😅

  • @ProrokLebioda
    @ProrokLebioda ปีที่แล้ว +109

    As laws of physics state: The higher the pile, higher the potential energy!
    I don't like selling minis, but sometimes it's the best course of action.
    It allows funding minis that I could actually paint.

    • @bragoen
      @bragoen ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sooo, I should lift my pile of shame to the top level of a shelf, got it

    • @calvanoni5443
      @calvanoni5443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bragoen You're pile should have a height above you're highest shelf level, or you're not really serious!

    • @bragoen
      @bragoen ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@calvanoni5443 you mean the Ziggurat of Potential ?

    • @calvanoni5443
      @calvanoni5443 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then make inappropriate sacrifices stop it, painted with blood!

  • @comicmaniac1587
    @comicmaniac1587 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "And now it's Dave's problem" literally had me laughing so hard I fell off my bed

  • @bogroomthoughts3338
    @bogroomthoughts3338 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The 'pile of shame' isn't just a cute nick name for it anymore. It's shame on top of anxiety, guilt and feeling of being overwhelmed by the task of working out what is there and how to move it on.
    I've come to terms with knowing that life isn't going to give the time that i was hoping to spend on the hobbies anymore - which I'm fine with as it leaves more time for family - and I'd be lying to myself (and the wife) that I will ever get the time for it again which isn't fair or a healthy perspective.
    Just need to find the time to now spend on working on releasing the unused models back out to people that could hopeful give them more of a life I can.
    Thanks Uncle Atom, will watch this video a few more times to keep me motivated as the journey continues. Thanks 🤝

  • @BigFrenchNose
    @BigFrenchNose ปีที่แล้ว +7

    People that don't buy new minis until they build and paint the ones they have exist, I'm one of those!
    It is actually my motivation to finish my pile, when I see something new I want I make myself finish my current project in order to buy new minis.

  • @cdwizzerd
    @cdwizzerd ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I used to do this whole 'pile of shame' overbuying as a teenager, I have a ton of unpainted space wolves in another country. but as an adult, I've been able to exercise self control and I never buy new minis unless my current project is done/almost done. feels great honestly

    • @xTERRORMANx
      @xTERRORMANx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wish I could do that!

    • @cdwizzerd
      @cdwizzerd ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it takes a lot of self control, but it really pays off. I can't buy any of the new 30k boxes until all of my night lords kill team is painted. sure it sucks to not have models that I want when they come out, but this is a huge motivator for getting me to paint. wanting new models motivates me to get the ones I am working on done, so I can buy them.
      I feel like as a hobby focused wargamer, it helps to think of your models like a sketchpad. you can buy another one when it's full, but there is no point in buying a new pad to draw in when you have so many empty pages.
      it's also removed my guilt from buying plastic crack. I only ever buy two units at a time, and I always know when I do it's because I had a great time painting the last two boxes, and it's because I really want to work on the next two. it's removed any sort of impulsive buying, I just get what I really really want now. it's fantastic.
      I really do believe anyone can be like this when it comes to the hobby. it just takes a conscious effort to change your relationship with purchasing. it becomes about the project, and not just buying cool minis.

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cdwizzerd we're on the same page about the hobby. I have absolutely no shame or remorse about buying minis. You only live once!

    • @bearded_gamer_88
      @bearded_gamer_88 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m glad I’m not the only one. My wife is completely surprised by my ability to not get a new sets until I finish my current project. It took a lot time to build up that self control.

  • @magimon91834
    @magimon91834 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    But uncle atom! I will one day find someone to play the Franco Prussian war with me. Do i NEED to let go of those models (yes)

    • @pbeccas
      @pbeccas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Keep them mate.

    • @l.a.wright6912
      @l.a.wright6912 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah. Me

    • @robertdean52
      @robertdean52 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m just getting started on a Franco-Prussian War project, so I’m sure that you will. :D

    • @102ndsmirnov7
      @102ndsmirnov7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Keep them!

    • @garymcgregor5951
      @garymcgregor5951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If your near me, I'll fight ya!

  • @elysianfieldstarot
    @elysianfieldstarot ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Almost 3 years ago I took a pile of stuff to a local Warboot, had a blast, made over a grand selling stuff. Went to another a few months ago with the same result. In the years in between I never even opened the boxes those mins were in.
    In the cold light of day, if you're never going to play the game again, sell it to someone who really wants it. I can't deny that I'm sad to see my Templars go for pennies on the pound, but they were literally worthless gathering dust in a box in the garage.
    After that enormous cull of mins and ALL my terrain, I STILL have several 80 litre boxes left in the garage; Titanicus, never played, mostly painted, hope to get to a table one day. Space Hulk still playing, Dreadfleet (move along, nothing to see here), elf lady on a beetle, always wanted to paint her, will do this year, and a few other odds and sods.
    I feel your pain I really do, but if you can keep only the armies you play and once your display case(s) are full, it's better to be one in one out
    Final advice: when you go to a Warboot to sell your collection. Do. Not. Buy. Anything.
    Right I'm off to scour Facebook for stuff I don't need but have to have!

    • @HeadCannonPrime
      @HeadCannonPrime ปีที่แล้ว

      quick question, what is a 'Warboot'?

    • @elysianfieldstarot
      @elysianfieldstarot ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HeadCannonPrime Like a carboot, but you sell (mainly Games Workshop) stuff you no longer paint/play. Sometimes historical stuff, and if you're real lucky a few board games. Highly recommend attending as a buyer or seller. It brings me joy to see my stuff getting a second life!

  • @davidwasilewski
    @davidwasilewski ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Does anyone else identify with the Scrooge feeling of having all the figures for a big project, including lots of rare and oop stuff, all sat in one big box. You get pleasure from getting it all out from time to time in the knowledge that ‘one day’ you’ll get round to it!

    • @MedinaPrime
      @MedinaPrime ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes 👏

    • @Pers0n97
      @Pers0n97 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do actually.

    • @calvanoni5443
      @calvanoni5443 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a sense of superiority! 😉

    • @losmiercoles
      @losmiercoles ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes. Now I'm laughing building an MKII only force while everyone moans they're OOP.

    • @HeadCannonPrime
      @HeadCannonPrime ปีที่แล้ว

      I have come round the bend and now looking at all the stuff I didn't do fills me with regret. I have at least 2,500 pts of orcs painted and another 2,000 sitting partially done for the last 4 years. Every time I see them I get this sick feeling of waste since I don't even play orks or even 40k anymore.

  • @Teapose
    @Teapose ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a box of Indomitus about 15% assembled and painted under my bed for over a year and a half and bought Cursed City and Blackstone Fortress and stuff was just sitting around. Threw Indomitus as it was on ebay, returned my Cursed City and told myself I'd finish Blackstone Fortress before I bought another big box. Got two small boxes after that (one completed, one 25% completed), but I'm down to five models left in BSF, just primed two of them this morning before leaving for work! New rule is finish a box, get a box (or don't get a box)

  • @MrMisterthesnake87
    @MrMisterthesnake87 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a 3D printer, my pile of shame(potential) isn't only the half box of MCP, 800 pts of space marines, misc DnD minis, and other whatnots I thought looked cool at the FLGS... but also the 300gig and growing STL folder.

  • @bubbadoom1837
    @bubbadoom1837 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "A plucky little company...".
    Lol the dry laugh I needed this morning.

  • @sebastiencarrieres8825
    @sebastiencarrieres8825 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I must admit, I'm one those "unicorn". I have no pile of shame. There are grey models in my bits box, but as I play Warcry, I have no need of 10 dire wolves. I painted 3, and the remaining 7 are bits.

    • @Alex-dr1ez
      @Alex-dr1ez ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have no pile of shame, my problem is i have too many armies. Not enough space or time to play them all lol.

    • @sebastiencarrieres8825
      @sebastiencarrieres8825 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Alex-dr1ez That's a problem! I try to stay with only 5-6 bands max. And sell what I don't play anymore.

    • @sebastiencarrieres8825
      @sebastiencarrieres8825 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's also a good way to finance your hobby.

    • @Alex-dr1ez
      @Alex-dr1ez ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@sebastiencarrieres8825 well it would be one thing if it was small warbands, unfortunately for me its full armies.. I just get so invested in it and then as you naturally swap to other armies for variety. Hard to sell at that point.

    • @jakea3950
      @jakea3950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, buying a pack of 10 wolves to only use 3 and dismantle the rest is just as bad as buying an army and only painting under a third of it.
      That example you gave states you have more grey then painted but since it's a small scale you seem to feel exclusive. Quite funny 😁 lol.

  • @Pirxel
    @Pirxel ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm new to the hobby, a few months, about 30 minis painted, some terrain and so on, but so far I managed to only buy minis when I'm done (or almost done) with the previous box and I intend to keep it that way :P

    • @jakea3950
      @jakea3950 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good job but as the above says, you'll most likely get pulled in if it becomes your main hobby due to dumb fomo tactics.
      However if you keep in mint condition you'll break even or make money so it's fine. Still, sticking to a plan is always best just... hard haha

    • @HeadCannonPrime
      @HeadCannonPrime ปีที่แล้ว

      Then GW will release a big box set for YOUR army with a limited edition model that can't be purchased outside and it is pre-order only and it might sell out before long.

  • @hurricanehanz0886
    @hurricanehanz0886 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "A plucky little company that I really hope does make it one of these days..." Had me cracking up, lol. Thank you for your wonderful asides, they're always lovely little brief detours on our journey through your wargaming content

  • @stormycatmink
    @stormycatmink ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Space and organization was my problem. But I still saw so much potential, so for me it was just a matter of finding better organizational solutions to store it better. In my case, 4 book cases and a dozen Really Useful Boxes.

  • @House-Atreides
    @House-Atreides ปีที่แล้ว +44

    TRUTH: Having a 3d printer changes the concept of “pile of shame”. It reduces FOMO and allows me to focus my attention and on painting time.

    • @demon1103
      @demon1103 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sadly I still get FOMO...but that's due to Patreon deals for STLs being so good (I can get these 20+ models for $10 this month...but if I wait it'll cost $50). Even worse I now not only have a pile of shame...but an almost 400gb "hard drive of shame" XD

    • @biobasher
      @biobasher ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@demon1103 *chuckles in 2 terrabytes*

    • @garymcgregor5951
      @garymcgregor5951 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Way to create FOMO about 3D printing!

    • @badgerwijohnson4081
      @badgerwijohnson4081 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@biobasher I wish it was just 2 terabytes. I can't stop downloading. I may have a real problem.

    • @House-Atreides
      @House-Atreides ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@badgerwijohnson4081 you need to get excited about creating and fielding one army or game or scenario. This way you divert your attention from horsing the next game and actually start executing and the painting, crafting, world building, and best of all …game playing. Set a date in the future with friends and work towards that. Good luck mate!

  • @harrywagstaff6331
    @harrywagstaff6331 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm currently in a phase of finishing every project I have built before I build anything else. So far I've painted half of AoS Dominion, two flames of war armies, half a bolt action army, a dystopian wars starter, and still have a necromunda crew, a Warhammer underworlds box, an invictor, and a few other things.
    Pile of shame is also occasionally still growing but gradually getting there.

    • @leopereira4718
      @leopereira4718 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This has been my approach lately too. I’m still buying models every now and then, but I try my very best to paint and finish more models than I buy

  • @dornjr
    @dornjr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can confirm that Hordes Hydra was in my 2020 LVO swag bag ... can also confirm Uncle Atom as spotted at same con is impressively taller in real life than you'd expect.
    Loved this video Atom, keep it up! 🙂👍

  • @brockfordjunktion
    @brockfordjunktion ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've done a couple of short videos on the pile. One thing that helped me reduce it was filming myself painting, as it motivated me to get started. It took a while to not give every model the hero treatment though.
    Not all of them end up posted as full painting videos, but I don't feel bad about taking a break from painting now.

  • @WarGamerGirl
    @WarGamerGirl ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Once a model is assembled and I've put some paint on it... I will NEVER part with it. That's just too much work lol

    • @HeadCannonPrime
      @HeadCannonPrime ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Give it 30 years or so. When your kids start asking what they are supposed to do with all this stuff when you die it changes your perspective.

    • @d-bro-sector36
      @d-bro-sector36 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, but then it is no longer part of the pile of shame, so...

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatsheresy Eugenicist used to be an insult. And its ideas like that that are turning the world bad.

  • @hansiboo657
    @hansiboo657 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I personally have a tub of disinterest.
    I exclusively field models that are fun to field. Not play, but that deploying them in itself is exciting.
    If models don't invoke that sort of feeling they just end up in the tub because there's no 'why' to painting them for me.
    Models do end up leaving the tub eventually for one reason or another though.

  • @saltytbone
    @saltytbone ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "plucky little company" I really enjoy your style of humor

  • @klavakkhazga3996
    @klavakkhazga3996 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't really sell, but it's great that the 2nd hand market in this hobby is so big. I have built multiple large armies and found some of my favourite OOP models for a fraction of the price over the years

  • @ryanschroeder1461
    @ryanschroeder1461 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Dave, take this. It's your problem now." 😅

  • @robertdean52
    @robertdean52 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Vintage gaming! Oh yes, I know that one. I’m actually working on (and have played the preliminary games of) a Tolkien game using the ~1975 Minifigs Mythical Earth figures. That’s where I started, so it’s definitely a nostalgia thing. But, the existence of that project has taken the energy from some other potential vintage projects, which should therefore be considered for release back into the market.

  • @nrgspike
    @nrgspike ปีที่แล้ว +16

    When the pandemic hit I all but stopped buying minis, as a result I bottomed out my pile of shame around the start of 2021 - it was a good feeling. But I also got a 3D printer and my pile has now regrown to over 300 models as my painting mojo appears to have floated off somewhere - in 2018, I painted 1,081 minis, in 2022, I've so far painted 5. :/

    • @olafolafsson2755
      @olafolafsson2755 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here. Finished 5 models this year. Did hundreds in 20 and 19. Dont even know why but i just can't finish anythin. Lose motivation or can't even start.

    • @HeadCannonPrime
      @HeadCannonPrime ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yep got into printing. Its now probably worse than buying because you can print for pennies. I started Warmaster and found that I could print an entire army in 2 days but it took almost a month to paint everything. My one rule that I have adopted, ONLY PRINT WHEN PAINTING. Otherwise the unpainted pile grows too fast.

  • @pascoett
    @pascoett ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I hoard minis and what I found out for myself after 30 years: time is valuable. It’s far more valuable than buying a whole collection of minis. I always thought that if I‘m getting unemployed I‘d have the time for minis. Guess what, I was too spooked to get back to work and even months of lockdown only partially brought me back to the workbench. 3d printing will come anyway and collections might be huge. So I shifted to sell anything not assembled, from boxes to blisters to sprues and holding back anything that was assembled and painted. I’m not bad at details so I can also easily upgrade the painting quality in most cases.

  • @killerwife
    @killerwife ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This year I have basically been reducing my unboxed minis. Last year after a surgery I had 6 unpainted blood bowl teams, about 30 unpainted space marines and then a few. What has worked for me is to every 3 months buy something new, IF I painted the previous box and some additional models. In the last batch I did Warband Khadgras Ravagers and then 8 additional models off my pile and now I am down to 2.5 blood bowl teams and 8 unpainted space marines. I suggest someone try buying something periodically and mixing it with the stuff from the pile and reduce it that way. If it goes well, before space marine 2.0 I will have no space marines and 1 unpainted blood bowl team :D Good luck to everyone. But it definitely is a years long process....

  • @grendelb3298
    @grendelb3298 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’ve found that any painted model has potential for games. My initial investment in the Kill Team 2018 starter works well in the new version. With a few more gene stealers, I can use both original teams for the new one.

  • @iratebovine
    @iratebovine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a partially-assembled Desert Hydra I got as a gift sitting on one of my Shelves of Potential, waiting to be a D&D model, incidentally. So this was especially relatable for me!

  • @jimi1701a
    @jimi1701a ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a general rule of if I haven't painted it in a year it goes. Really helps keep the pile down.

  • @barrywonderdog
    @barrywonderdog ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a ‘one in, one out’ rule with my pile of shame. I don’t buy anything new until I have finished something old.
    And if you believe that, I have got a spare bridge…

  • @dotdotdotPaul
    @dotdotdotPaul ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I've also heard of Bigfoots and Chupacabras, so..." 🤣

  • @Mech_B0i-MK69
    @Mech_B0i-MK69 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got rid of my entire pile cause it stresses me out. Took a few months break and now I'm going to buy into one project and finish it before getting more. I basically rebooted my hobby and I'm enjoying it more. I also stay away from new release hype and just do my own thing at my own pace. It's made the hobby enjoyable again.

  • @benjamin2629
    @benjamin2629 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I dug out my old skorne models around the time Reign in Hell came out, they made a great Reign in Hell Warband. So happy I had those old guys around and it was nice to paint up something I got so long ago.
    I do actually have a bunch of stuff I do need to sell, but ugh I cannot be bothered dealing with ebay and second-hand buyers.

  • @genghisgahan9623
    @genghisgahan9623 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My "pile of shame" is actually not too big. I love having a few miniatures and kits sitting on standby, so that I'll never be without some miniatures to paint.
    To be honest, I enjoy the painting and end result more than the gaming.
    So I call it my "reserve".

    • @justinrisen1929
      @justinrisen1929 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is me 100%. Modeling and Painting minis is cathartic to me and priority #1 when it comes to this hobby. Kill Team is about the only game I really ever play and even then it's not much.

  • @LordGuntharUthMatar
    @LordGuntharUthMatar ปีที่แล้ว +3

    GW is (sort of) helpful when it comes to 'piles of shame'. This is one very few hobby that your stuff doesn't go down in value over time unless there is a massive re-design because GW keeps raising the prices so the perceived values kits creeps up over time. Just last year I sold my unused halves of the 5th and 6th ed starter boxes for what I bought the whole box for back then so all I had to do was store it in a closet and wait to regain those funds. A kit you paid $50 for years ago now costs $80. Folks are willing to pay you 40 or 50 for it to save themselves while you basically get out about what you paid.

  • @ErikPhilemonoff
    @ErikPhilemonoff ปีที่แล้ว

    Pile management is definitely an essential skill that so few people ever talk about. As you said there are many perfectly valid strategies for it, but it's important for everyone to be conscious of and aim for an equilibrium they are comfortable with.
    For me, I moved a couple years ago, and I wanted to protect my pile. I got a bunch of clear plastic bins so nothing would get crushed. Seeing it all out in the light really brought home that I had let it get out of control. I kept the bins now and I only allow myself to buy something new if it fits in one of the bins. Something cool releasing but the bins are full? I better get to work building and painting then!

  • @BlueLionNotOfPercy
    @BlueLionNotOfPercy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I recently gave my nephew my entire collection of 40K Orks. At least I still get to see my abandoned projects that way.

  • @ryantalbott5282
    @ryantalbott5282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. I just flipped a few sets earlier this week and now I’m going to apply what I made to different models. I’ve got to learn to let go of boxes and empty sprues that the models came in/on, now there is some wasted space.

  • @vaderkoshpaints
    @vaderkoshpaints ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love that you made this one. Very good advice indeed 😀 Stay happy in the hobby!

  • @KristovMars
    @KristovMars ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the pile of shame, I'm helping my mate move all his minis which gave me the impetus to start shedding things i know I'll never use.
    Because I've been collecting since the 90s i actually have some good value tied up in my oldhammer stuff!
    On letting go of painted models, i feel ya. Years ago I got out of warmachine and sold all my minis. I really wish I'd kept that one Warjack with the Ice Axe. It wasn't an award winning paint job but i loved the model amd was super proud of the paint job (clean but simple). Nearly ten years on i miss it :(

  • @johnashley-smith4987
    @johnashley-smith4987 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this video. Another great topic for discussion! The best way I have heard it put, what the issue is for most of us, is that we buy these models thinking we are buying the time to build and paint them, much like people who buy books, thinking they are buying the time to read them.
    As for my own " pile of shame" I have enough to conceivably keep me building and painting for two lifetimes.....it get's a bit silly. Still....it's better to be spoilt for choice!
    Thanks again, and looking forward to perhaps discussing this topic further, on The Every Other Sunday Show, coming up!

  • @willroarty1512
    @willroarty1512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just as I'm getting ready to sell off part of my backlog... What timing!

  • @Kryzcek78
    @Kryzcek78 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid Uncle Atom cheers. Will share this with a friend who needs to hear it.

  • @brentwood7660
    @brentwood7660 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tough topic but great considerations! Donating to a middle school games club felt wonderful. This challenge I think is more spiritual than we care to admit. Wish anybody and everybody the best! Shalom!

  • @kiesminis
    @kiesminis ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Nope never, I'm never letting go 😀 Actually just purchased the 4th Edition Starter set.

  • @vicautmort
    @vicautmort ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the most encouraging video for my sanity that I have seen all year. I moved houses last December and went from having a 300 sq foot office to a 100 sq foot office and had to downsize a lot. Thank you for putting out this positive video :)

  • @darnokx9277
    @darnokx9277 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact: there were no Tomb Kings in WHF 4th edition, it was all "Undead" back then. Tomb Kings only became a thing in the early 2000s in 6th edition.

  • @FernandoMSanz
    @FernandoMSanz ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I blame it on the shipping companies for my personal pile of shame: by the time the stuff arrives, i've already gone deep into a totally different project idea and already ordered more things. At least, all my projects fall on the same faction and scale range (humans, Guard, however you call it), so I have kitbashing material enough to survive to the next 3 or 4 Apocalypses. Yai to this!

  • @smackroscoe
    @smackroscoe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm in the process of moving to the south of the country. The # of unread books, comics, models, toys, games & equipment that got purged with a vengeance was impressive & yes, shameful. Sometimes you need your own "moment of truth/reality" where your forced to make a decision to keep or purge. I do feel better & thanks for wisdom.

  • @thoughtengine
    @thoughtengine ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been feeling crappy and snowed-under and all manner of negativity about my stash for some time. Sometimes I wish I could just bring myself to ditch the lot and star again in a more organised manner. It is an odd co-incidence... that I should resolve myself to sort this lot out tonight, and as soon as I get home, here you are with this to discuss.
    Face it, I'm not going to live long enough to build all these damn things around me. Sometimes I think I don't want to.

    • @viewtifuljoe4412
      @viewtifuljoe4412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope you can sort through your stuff and pick out at least two armies you are passionate about so you can have them to be able to fight each other ^_^ ❤

    • @thoughtengine
      @thoughtengine ปีที่แล้ว

      @@viewtifuljoe4412 Shouldn't be too hard, given how Gaslands teams are so expensive, a team could be nought but two cars...

  • @Brachra2055
    @Brachra2055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently got rid of about 6,000 mini's. all unbuilt of course. Now i have about 40 and 3 boardgames to paint and i actually managed to drag some stuff out to prime recently! which is a huge step because before i would just say to myself "Ill get to that soon"

  • @JeremyComans
    @JeremyComans ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A big ass Helldrake would make a cool visual centerpiece on terrain in a game. In casual you could have a rule where if you move units too close to its lair it has a chance to do dmg or something.

  • @lorenzovive5801
    @lorenzovive5801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I completely agree with your comment regarding the hobbyist's "threshhold" for the amount of unfinished minis. Mine is spacial and visual - amount of boxes, etc. That is when I take things to local gaming auctions and redestributing the reclaimed funds into new projects.

  • @Benjam311
    @Benjam311 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone that got into wargaming in the 90's and have jumped in and out of the hobby for years, I cannot tell you how many times I have heard friends say "I really regret selling my army". Once I have painted a model, I cannot sell it, either. Once painted, I have a connection with them such that I just can't let them go, even if they are painted horribly. I have many painted 4th edition Warhammer fantasy models that sit in a box, and every couple of years i'll sift through them and reminisce. They are hugely sentimental and some of the only possessions I have from back then. They bring back memories from that era that aren't even about the game, but the friends from that time, where we went, what we did, they are just such a cool little physical momento to have.

  • @MechbossBoogie
    @MechbossBoogie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want to call what I have a pile of shame, I personally wouldn't, because anything unopened I have is intended for an army that I'm currently working on. But I've got a full time job and I also run a Pathfinder game on weekends, so my time is limited. Also using some of those unopened models for Pathfinder using One Page Rules for armies. Eventually putting those monsters into play. I at least have a plan for assembly and paint for everything I have, I just need time, motivation, and energy.
    Also sitting on several boxes of the old version of skeleton warriors. I'm intending on using them for terrain bits, because skeletons.

  • @PatchymooGaming
    @PatchymooGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ''Pile of Potential'' love it... I actually get freaked out if there isn't enough stuff in my to do list :)

  • @maxxon99
    @maxxon99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me too! Never could sell a painted model. Given quite few as presents but never sold one.

  • @zootsanchez
    @zootsanchez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My pile pf shame was (unboxed) a stack that reached from floor to ceiling and had stuff in it dating back to 2007. I flung the whole lot on ebay last summer and converted it into every book, WD, boxed game and expansion that GW released from the period 1988 to 1991, plus several pounds of metal minis from the same era. So I basically traded my pile of shame for an older, scruffier pile of shame, but now I can pass this one off to my conscience as a "vintage collection" instead of a "heap of plastic tat"

  • @oldschoolfrp2326
    @oldschoolfrp2326 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Bartertown.” Obi Wan gazed into the distance. “That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time.”

  • @nickster5207
    @nickster5207 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I retired from collecting when I finished my primary army, I still actively play games with it, but I have not had any new models in over a year.

  • @damein343
    @damein343 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have always enjoyed these videos you do. I have collected for years and at one point in time had probably three book shelves of NIB models that were never opened. It was a problem. These types of videos helped me draw down heavily and focus on what makes me happy about the hobby. I still have some new boxes in the house waiting to be worked on, but I also have an exponential amount of more painted models than I have in my entire 14 years of playing. it feels more rewarding than just having plastic on shelves "waiting." keep up the good work with these videos, they sure helped me manage my hobby better and I am happier for it

  • @Morganistalking
    @Morganistalking ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont have a lot of in the box stuff, my vice is partially painted. just tubs and tubs of minis with varying levels of paint on them.

  • @TruthTealler
    @TruthTealler ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The unpainted grey. always on my mind. when to sleep i lay, always a new idea for design.

  • @RotGolem
    @RotGolem ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have two rooms of shame and potential. One is unpainted, one is still on the sprues. Most of the latter still in boxes, a lot bought during black fridays/discounts/conventions, sometimes at a laughable fraction of the original cost.
    And Wargames Atlantic has the SpaceNAM plastic kits on preorder. Yay me. We're back to Catachan.

  • @torenvarela9340
    @torenvarela9340 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me: At least I don't have a pile of shame!
    Also me: Looks over at 3 kits that are literally still in the shrink wrap...

  • @kienesel7
    @kienesel7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are right, I have held on to this resentment for too long, I should forgive my fath-oh you were talking about miniatures.

  • @fluffcrunchmini4572
    @fluffcrunchmini4572 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    So. This is GW specific.. But over the past 30 years I've found that spending a pound now.. Saves a pound later.. And buying terrain now saves tens if not hundred of pounds later.. So I don't mind building up a decent pile of shame.. Especially if its terrain..

    • @tabletopminions
      @tabletopminions  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That does seem to be the way we’re trained by GW - and I’m guilty of doing the same thing. Thanks for watching!

    • @jakea3950
      @jakea3950 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep it's a fomo or price strat by gw. It sucks but it's true.
      Easy solution ig you wanna save thousands of pounds on terrain? 3d print! One of the biggest reasons to even start 3d printing.

    • @HeadCannonPrime
      @HeadCannonPrime ปีที่แล้ว

      Getting a 3d printer COMPLETELY changes that perspective. In fact it made me realize I don't need GW for my hobby AT ALL!

  • @jackmprestonjr
    @jackmprestonjr ปีที่แล้ว

    I got tired of magnetizing all my minis. When I put them together I just glue the load out. Surprisingly the extra weapons (especially the heavy or special weapons) or decorative parts can be sold on eBay. My bits box was a 7ft book shelf. I cleared it and now filled it with books. Worth it

  • @adrianbk698
    @adrianbk698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent advice all round. I do however, need a t-shirt that says 'those minis are Dave's problem now'.
    I reached a point a few years back where I did a massive clear-out of RPG and miniature games asking 'will I really, actually play this?' It felt a little ruthless, but painted and unpainted, entire armies, warbands, and other groupings left and the wallet was happy. Now, I've been able to look at just the two games that make me happy and buy minis at a reasonable rate and take the time to just enjoy painting.
    Lastly, the other joys of FB groups for selling are (i) no fees to gouge away your dollars, and (ii) the potential for trading online rather than selling. The flexibility is so great.

  • @florianstock376
    @florianstock376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And if you can afford to get rid of them without getting a penny for it: I gave a couple of pile-minis to my daughter and her friends - training object for painting. They are really young, but still had a blast when painting their knights, horses and wizards pink 🙂. And when a local game shop offers some painting tutorials (or even better offer them to hold one of yourself) - donate them a training paint models - this way you not only teach the next generation, maybe you can "addict" one of them actually to *your* favourite game and you have a new gaming friend.

    • @HeadCannonPrime
      @HeadCannonPrime ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean this in the nicest way possible; You are a plastic crack dealer. The first one is free! LOL

  • @rowshak
    @rowshak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ouff, this hit home....I collected a lot of metal models (sometimes buying from other people to strip them from their paint job).
    Then old board games and keep some sealed and play the heck out of specific ones...
    Then sprues laying in big stash....waiting for the day I figure a paint scheme for an army....
    Then some old boxes that I feel ashame of even thinking about painting them and other I painted but can't get rid of the box because of the art work......
    Its a weird and addicting hobby that is for sure.
    P.S: I bought the Dark Souls board game...and it was like the Other Side. Cool models but those moldlines and gap... still cool to have and paint tho...

  • @mykeycuento5576
    @mykeycuento5576 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a reaffirmation of what I'd been doing these past few weeks, offloading my big 40K stuff so I can focus on skirmish games like Kill Team and Warcry. As always, Uncle Atom, you are a great motivator, thank you.

  • @Psychichazard
    @Psychichazard ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd crashland that chaos drake thing and make a terrain piece from it.

  • @cavemanbum
    @cavemanbum 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If there was ever a silver lining about the COVID lock downs and my subsequent loss of employment due to losing my practice, it was that I was able to dive headfirst into my hobby. I was able to whittle down my 'Pile of Shame' to just a handful of models, and that was a great feeling.
    Between 2020-2022, I painted over 900 models--everything from 40K, Battletech, and Frostgrave all the way through my historical minis for Bolt Action and Check Your 6. When my gaming group and I were finally able to get back together, I was very well prepared.

  • @ravdeepbagri1313
    @ravdeepbagri1313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a pretty voracious appetite for painting, and have bought huge lots of other people's piles of shame so I'll see if I can overcome that hill.
    I actually just painted a skorne battlegroup this evening and would love to cop that hydra.

  • @khublaklonk4480
    @khublaklonk4480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my little pile. Sometimes I take out a box or two and spend a while just gloating over my pretties.
    It's good to have a nice little gloat now and then.

  • @richardokeeffe8375
    @richardokeeffe8375 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having a pile of hobby pressure was clashing with my anxiety and shipping it on really helped me

  • @RyanBeland
    @RyanBeland ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha, thanks for the shoutout!
    (yes we really are still around)
    - Bartertown Administrator 3eland

  • @timunderbakke8756
    @timunderbakke8756 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve operated on a “has it been over a year since I used anything in this game system” basis, up until recently. I’m down to just xwing, 40k, and two small business minis Burrows & Badgers and Relicblade. I probably would sell RB too because that was a whim with a friend and we’ve played once, but I can’t imagine the resell exists at all for an unknown. I’m keeping B&B no matter what even if it’s never used again just because I like those models too much (I just won’t buy more without a good reason)

    • @hangarrat
      @hangarrat ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Never heard of Burrows & Badgers. Now I have. Now I want to buy those cute models. Thanks a lot. 🤦🏻

    • @timunderbakke8756
      @timunderbakke8756 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hangarrat it’s a really fun game system too if you have a friend for recurring games. The campaign (full rules in the main book - the extra book is optional) allows for characters to progress based on the outcome of each skirmish. The game uses an rpg set of dice as each mini has its own “die statistic” for certain actions - a harder hitting animal rolls a die with potentially larger numbers for example (d12 versus d6)
      I hope someday I’ll get my future kids into it with my collection.

  • @wickerman7689
    @wickerman7689 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi! I'm a part-time miniatures painter and part-time modelist (1/35 WW2 vehicles).
    And, yes, I have a whole (and I mean a WHOLE) bookcase full of model boxes waiting to be assembled and painted..!!
    So yes, I totally get your point..!! 😊

  • @majingazetto4146
    @majingazetto4146 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had this Gorka Morka Mutie Warband and the expansion rulebook laying around. Back when it came out, my brother and I wanted to play it with a good friend of ours, who had the core rulebook. But then the time came, when shool ended, he had to pick up a job and the contact fizzled out, since we had our shool stuff to do and he was on his job, so our schedules didn't align that well. We shelved the Gorka Morka thing for some day. Then my fried sadly decided to end his life.
    I sat on the Mutie Warband for the last 20 years and couldn't bring myself to sell them. Last year I took a look at lots of my stuff and I decided, that the needed to go. It did hurt me and it does still, but I hope someone will be able to make some nice memories and lead them into the battles I could not.

  • @alecideas
    @alecideas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Gray’vard merely awaits to be brought to life.

  • @thoughtengine
    @thoughtengine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:50 I had much the same with the old Wizkids D&D and Star Wars figs.They just DON'T fit together and the maker just doesn't issue the stern end of a Rodent-class.

  • @SlayerOfWorlds
    @SlayerOfWorlds ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use those fishmen models in my DnD games alot. They are great with some greenstuff fixes. I also use them in frosthaven homebrew.

  • @Christopher_Gibbons
    @Christopher_Gibbons ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back when I was in uni we would have a tournament every year. Each player would put their shame pile in the pot, and whoever lost the most matches got stuck with it.

  • @AfroCelt001
    @AfroCelt001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm feeling personally identified by this video. I'm slowly working through my skirmish games - my poor 40k orks are years away.

  • @pt_boat_265
    @pt_boat_265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sadly mine & my nephew's "PoS." share a "20' Container of Shame!'" We can't die, we've got a pile to build, paint & play with!

  • @2WARDEN2
    @2WARDEN2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I habitually sell minis to local players to make space for new stuff. I recently had to have a Come to Jesus moment about my storage situation and clear out models I had built or were still on the sprue (Big ditto on not selling painted models, they're too personal at that point imo!) that I just wasn't going to ever build/paint or use for anything.
    eBay will destroy your return on selling things between shipping and the cut they take, it's a lot easier to hit up a local gaming group of the thing you're trying to sell either on FB or Discord, make a friend, and meet in a restaurant parking lot or whatever to make a sell. Sometimes you have to wait a few weeks (longest I waited was 2 months) but if you have the space then the saved hassle and extra $$ pays dividends when you finally sell that army off to someone in the same county you live in. Plus you get to make a friend and feel good about what you just did! I sold a bunch of traitor Guard I had custom built and a dude was beyond stoked to finally have Cultists. Another guy felt comfortable returning to 40k after 10 year hiatus because of the Dark Eldar I sold him. It's pretty cool what you help local people do in the hobby and get to find out first hand!

  • @smooticus
    @smooticus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "In this video, I'll try to help you determine when it's time to let go of your wargaming miniatures." HOW FRICKING DARE YOU!!

  • @PaintsOnA4Up
    @PaintsOnA4Up ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I’m currently going through my Pile Of Potential and getting rid of things. I’ve got so much up on eBay just now and it’s great when it sells! Really happy with the amount I’m making. I just knew I would never do those projects because I don’t play that system any more

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice video. That big robot dragon you have maybe just use it as shelf display model in the hobby room. Hopefully this video helps some people. Keep up the good work.

  • @williambauer2170
    @williambauer2170 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have a yearly game/model/ pop culture auction at my local game store. People bring in stuff for me to auction off with prices, folks bid, and the seller gets the earnings in store credit to be used in their next pile of potential.
    Works fairly well.

  • @SOTMead
    @SOTMead ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And then some of us use that phrase in jest, as a euphemism to say 'I really should paint these some day'. "Shame" should not always be taken literally....

  • @cory7328
    @cory7328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oooh look at that privateer press box. Love it.

  • @ernstbergerbrent
    @ernstbergerbrent ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like being able to build, prime, base coat, layer, etc at anytime. Therefore, I have numerous projects at various states of completion. I typically paint batches and it gets monotonous. Moving from painting to building is a good way to mix things up. That way I don't get bored with the hobby.