@@andybales7318they are all not selling new trucks here in the states every lot is full!! And with quite a few 22s leftovers too!! Ram especially if you search there are 2500 22 models left over country wide same with Chevy!! Ford about 1000 units too!!
I have a 2020 Ram Big Horn in the Built to Serve Edition. For a Big Horn it is pretty well optioned out. The truck rides so well and is really comfortable. Haven't towed a lot with it but when i have it has handled it like a champ.
Don't have too much confidence in that cheap chit. Dodge/Fiat mark the price of that trash up to Ford Chevy and Toyota, but best believe once you start putting that cheap chit to real hard work, you'll forever be fixing things on it. Never buy a Dodge truck for real hard work
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr gotta love the internet. Make a comment and someone has to respond with their overly negative opinion and try to bring people down.
@@jasonwilliams705 the truth matters above all even me. Would it make you feel better if I were a robot program to tell facts on matters? I'm just letting you know incase you don't know. I'm more of a Chevy fan but not really *until I did the math , Ford makes the best trucks. I use to hear lots of bad talk about Ford and let me tell you "I was a fool to believe Chevy truck was better 🤦♂️"... I know a few Chevy and Dodge fans that turnt Ford now, they tell me that they were foolish also the whole time and now they knows what truck is the best
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr everyone thinks they are spewing the truth. It's your opinion. Ford has had quality issues, GM too. Even Toyota has had problems with the new Tundra. Meanwhile i'll enjoy driving my rig and not give a rip.
When I was shopping for a truck, I test drove them all. I ended up with a 2022 Ram Rebel. The interior of the Rebel was leaps and bounds above the rest. The Hemi provides plenty of power, the ride is fantastic and the overall look of the truck, to me at least, is better than the competition. I've had 22000 trouble free miles so far. The new Tundra, I don't know. I just can't get over the GIGANTIC FACE on that thing. They are great and dependable trucks, but I just don't like the overall look of the truck. Price point, I get it, but I'm still sticking with the Ram.That's my 2 cents worth.
The V8 would be a major decision factor. I had a 2008 Toyota Tundra with the 5.7L V8, plenty of power, extremely reliable...other than a few years that Toyota got a hold of a bad batch of axle and differential bearings, which unfortunately my Tundra fell victim of :(. The only way I'd buy another Tundra would be if it had a V8, so 2021 or older. Not a fan of that turbo engine crap that all these automakers are trying to push onto people.
Spot on opinion! Literally what I thought of and ended up doing as well. I have a 2023 Ram Rebel and absolutely love it. I tried to love the tundra but that grill is just too dang ugly.. I’m super happy with my decision, my ram rebel is the best
I bought Toyota Limited hybrid year ago. I'm not happy with few small things about that truck, but overall very satisfied with my new choice. Used to be Ford 150 fan.
The 1794 trim level is the only other option I looked at while deciding which truck to buy. Im a Ram guy, and always will be. Toyota did a great job with the 1794. However, it just isnt as "soft" and luxurious as the Limited, let alone the Limited Elite I also dig your laid back Canadian attitudes. Super relaxed, but perfectly able to crack skulls if someone got sideways with you I really like your channel. Its been fun to watch
That Ram will not last as long as the Toyota and I guarantee Rams have more major failures before 200k than Toyota so there is that. I could care less which one is more luxurious I want a truck to work it and use it for my hauling needs. If I want Luxury I would buy a Lexus.
The ride difference comes down to the 20 inch wheels on the Tundra vs the 22 inch wheels on the Ram. I wish you guys would've gone more into the driving differences like the adaptive cruise control and other features they have for a comparison there. I'm not sure what the 1794 does or doesn't have compared to the Limited and would appreciate seeing and hearing your thoughts on the differences.
I very much agree with the Ram hybrid feel. It makes the start/stop invisible and it is the only time I drove a vehicle with it that I didn't search for a way to disable it. Other than that, it's unnoticeable. I absolutely love the split tailgate and Ramboxes. As someone who actually hauls and tows, they are great additions! You really lose nothing in the bed but gain lots of lockable storage for tools and towing gear. Unloading with the split tailgate is awesome. You don't need a step as you can damn near reach the back of the cab. Much more useful than the crazy gate from GM
It’s because it uses the 48v system to do the start/stop if I’m not mistaken. Had a jeep with one that used the belt driven generator to do the Stop/start instead of the starter motor. It was simply perfect. Everyone should do it that way.
The more comprable test would have been a Tundra with the Capstone trim... 22 inch wheels as standard, and the price would rival the Ram 1500 much more closely (Capstone = $77k USD)
Test drive a 2023 Tundra 1794 TRD Pro yesterday. Butter smooth, comfortable, and I do like the interior. Honestly wasn’t on my list of possible trucks, but now…it’s solidly on there. The display, honestly, better than the Ram. The vertical placement is weird to me. Not ugly, just something I’d have to take time to get used to. With the horizontal display, no issues, feels natural. The plastic in the Tundra bumpers, front & back…feels cheap. But the dependability? Phenomenal. Also, the truck I drove just had WAY too much chrome. The grill & all the other shiny stuff would get swapped out/wrapped/plasti-dipped. Can’t do that much chrome.
Haha yeah I love my 1794 but the chrome is gonna deleted bit by bit. I just couldn’t resist the beautiful cab in the 1794 and it’s a TRD so I got the Bilsteins. I’ll do a 2 in front leveling kit, delete the chrome, and I’ll be set
I have a ram limited and was interested in a 22 tundra when it was time to trade my camry in due to the pricing. The ram got my purchase due to the air suspension and remote start. The tundra remote starts shuts off after you unlock the doors, very annoying in my camry and did not want to live with that again.
@@BruceDragon-sf1trDodge ? Have been in a coma for the last 13 years ? 😂😂 FYI Ram become a seperate brand and manufacturer way back in 2010 and production was moved to Chrysler plants. Nothing to do with Dodge .
Drove an air suspension ram from Ohio to Hilton Head, SC and it was amazing being able to lower the ride height with kids in-and-out and unpacking. Can't beat a Toyota though. Even in a new line the quality tends to be better long term.
Thanks so much for your Canadian perspective! I just bought a 2023 Tundra Platinum and every vid out there compares based on USD. Nice to see this CAD sticker price comparison. I would have loved for you to compare the L/100km. I'm still solid on my choice for the Tundra. I'm just so excited to pick it up in two days. I'm now a subscriber, y'all were so comprehensive and informative in this review. Thank you!
First off the reason why the ram felt a bit rougher was the 22inch wheels. A set of 20s on the air ride is an absolute amazing ride. Still the air suspension does a pretty decent job at smoothing out the 22s. Second thing sounds like that ram had 3.21 gearing. Throw the 3.92 gears in there and you're good to tow 11000lbs and have a much more stable and level truck then any other. Love the tundra but the lines and designer look just like the ram! Look at the front again and notice the hood and the lines come off the hood into the grill almost exactly like the ram does. Either way tundra is still a well put together truck and the reliability and power and efficiency is definitely there. both trucks are nice buy what you like and like what works whichever that is.
Yes, its ashame that Toyota allowed its cars and trucks made in America. America made these dsys are worse quality than those made in Taiwan back in the 60.
Nice the Tundra has a rear load leveling air suspension but yeah I've heard good things about the 4 corner air on the Ram. Also had no idea it's available on even Big Horn models, which is nice that it's not only on the top models.
@@T_81535 you absolutely right. I laugh at the Dodge fans , they're ranked amongst vehicles such as Kia, and Daewoo which are CHEAP, only difference is Dodge puts a high end price on it. Only fools and 🤡 buy Dodge vehicles thinking they have something special 🤣🤣
Ram limited with the night package looks/drives phenomally. If they were both the same price, I'd probably go with the Ram limited but as they are, the Tundra Platinum would be my go to.
Never owned a pick up and I am looking as we need it to haul a travel trailer. GM, Ford, Ram and Toyota all have lot to offer, and know every manufacture have issues. For me being NEW to the market tests drove Ram, Ford, GM they all had great things on the interior trims which were nice. Toyota will be this week as this video gave me something to think about. I look at everything from can it haul my travel trailer, reliability, and value for price. I Love this channel and is helping me in answering questions I have,
I think most people like me wanted a Tundra but could not order one, so we bought something else. Then the Sequoia came, as a ghost. You can't expect high volume if you can't have them in inventory. I waited 5 months for my '22 Rav4 Hybrid, 3 months for my '23 4Runner. Some people have been dropped from their Tundra orders because the year changed. That was more than 14 months of wait...
You’re correct, the lack of being able to order the Tundra is a serious disappointment. I was lucky that my dealer found my ‘23 1794 edition hybrid with the 6.5 ft bed in under two weeks. But there are people who have been waiting over six months to find the truck they want.
Really interesting comparison. Thanks for doing it. I'm on my 3rd Ram, coming from a family of diehard Toyota fans. It's a good truck, and they've done a beautiful job on the interior design, but Ram trucks leak badly. Every single one of mine have leaked, and speaking to the dealer the new Rams do, too. They leak from the rear window, the 3rd high-mounted stop light, the GPS antenna, and most of all from the cab vents behind the rear seat. And I don't mean they get a little damp, I mean I've had standing water in the storage area beneath the rear bench. They've known about this problem for at least 3 generations of Ram and they're still ignoring it. So, people are spending $100K (which is ridiculous for a truck, by the way), and it's going to leak on them because Ram is too cheap to fix the existing problem. Also, the 5.7 hemi has a habit of destroying itself when the problem with the lifters rears its head and they disintegrate, usually around the 200,000 mile mark. You made the point yourselves, the 5.7 Hemi has been around for ages. So, it begs the question: Why haven't they fixed that problem? They've known about it for DECADES! So, having owned 3 Rams, I can honestly say I'm a fan, but I'm kind of sick of giving them my money only to later learn they refused to fix known/existing problems and dealers refuse to address them under warranty. At this point, I'd consider the Toyota just to get a truck that won't leak, or maybe detonate the engine after 200,000 miles, or maybe have decent, honest dealer support. I like the refresh that Toyota did with the Tundra. It looks pretty nice to me, inside and out. The only things I really don't like about it are the shifter (which looks like it came out of a 1987 parts bin) and the fact that the engine noise you're hearing is fake, piped in through the speakers nonstop while it's running. You can't even turn it off in the settings. Smh.
Honest review and a ram owner as well , glad to see you are not slamming either product I am pretty sure both are worthy of 5 stars if you were to enjoy their individual capabilities, they both are overpriced though .lol
Hey There, The fake exhaust sound can be turned off by Toyota mechanics. Haven’t driven one yet I’m in Australia so waiting for them to go through the engineering process to be converted to RHand drive. Don’t think you could go past the torque on the hybrid version. Live the videos guys.
I bought a GMC because I got tired of waiting for the new generation. Although the GMC interior was dated, the truck is much more refined. A lot less plastic, especially in the fender wells, bumpers and skid plates. And the tail gate is incredible.
Yeah but it wasn’t a fair comparison either. If they went with Ram 1500 Sport for example they would be in the same price range. In that case I’d go with Ram agin because it look better and it drives better.
Well that Tundra will still be worth 3/4s of what you paid for it by the time it's paid for, the Ram will be in the shop and depreciated well over half
I just bought a 2023 Warlock quad cab so it has the 6 ft 4 inch bed, V-6, tow package with 355 gears, anti-spin rear, fogs, tow hooks, power rear window, power seat and i need to add VERY comfortable, fender liners, some other useful options and i got it at a great price, 9 grand off list. It's not a limited but not 75 grand USD either, i wouldn't mind having the HEMI with the 392 gears but the V-6 is fine and super smooth.
They forgot to mention the heads up display,the reclining back seats,the multifunctional drivers display,mirror cameras,the rearview camera in the rearview mirror,the auto collision feature front and rear,cranking ass premium Harmon Kardon system,the traffic cam notification and traffic speed zone awareness notification. This out does the Tundra by dozens. I love the stiffness of my elite.
To be comparable even more, wouldn’t you compare the longhorn with the level 1 package to the 1794? Also I’m a Ram guy, I’m still not sold on the Tundra looks.
@@davidmckibbin4440 I'm disappointed with the new Tundra. Looks too much like a GM from the side, and the grill is too much. With thos being all jew I was expecting more. Instead wr got a mid level competitor this isn't really class leading at anything but is instead more middle of the pack. I wish they'd have kept the 5.7 and updated it. 400hp and 425 torque wouldn't be out of the question for that engine.
@@mottom2657 id rather have the less efficient, simpler engine if im keeping it long term. If I were just leaseing for 3 years I wouldn't even worry about the V8. They could have just revamped the V8 and made it more efficient. My wifes sequoia limited isn't as bad on fuel as I thought it would be, but it is a 2wd. I do lile the sequoia but id at least like to be able to choose to not go with a hybrid, again, if I were keeping it long term. Im sure that Toyotas TT v6 will last and be more reliable than the average TT v6 but I'd trade a couple mpg for the simpler engine with less that cpuld go wrong.
I had 3 rams in my life. I used to be a chevy guy until my engine blew at 83000 miles. My first ram had over 140000iles on it when i traded it and everything still worked. My second ram which i still have has over 205000 miles and everything still works. I used it as my work truck. My third ram is a 2022 ram gt. And that is my retirement truck. After having this trucks i will never drive anything else
Totally agree with you. If money isn't a factor, the ram is nicer..... but since this is real life and most of us value our money... the Tundra makes more sense.
@@LayzeeGiant With 1/2-ton trucks brand really doesn't matter much. They all hold their value extremely well. Research says the GMC does the best in the long run.
I know these are "luxury" trucks, and you're not buying these for the job site, but that 1k pound payload on the Ram is ridiculous for a full size truck. Like, it can't even carry 20% of it's own weight? Four people and their stuff will max out the payload, let alone anything heavy in the bed or tongue weight from a trailer.
You can fit 4 Americans at beat in that truck, and it would max out the payload. That's sad. A half ton truck shouldn't have less than 2,000lbs payload.
@Good Bad Ugly most reliable like the 5.7 tundra was for years and for power mine has plenty of power and the best Transmission out there..most awarded most reliable 😀
I like the exterior styling of the Ram better. I don't like the way Toyota has done the rear bumper on the Tundra. I do think the Tundra is a better value.
Always wondered why the 6.4 Hemi isn't an option on the Ram. For the money their asking for it, it should have at least the 6.4 Hemi. Their both real nice trucks but their seriously expensive.
Because the 392 will achieve a worse MPG # than the 345, and the OEM's are required to achieve a 20 MPG average across their fleet sales. Putting a 392 in a Ram 1500 would make achieving that a much harder task. Why do you think that GM is so selective on what they put a L87 in.?.? I don't like that. I mean F the EPA, but the government CAFE regulations is why the OEM's are reluctant to put large ci V8's in modern trucks. Especially the big 3 whose volume sellers are large trucks and SUV's.
@@JROC734 Why is that a bad thing? It's an average of their fleet. They have the option of making it work by adding super-efficient models to the brand. Ford did with the Maverick. They don't because everyone shops by mpg. Some don't care but the average buyer sure does. And, it's obvious, the big v8 is just unnecessary anymore.
I like the front of the Tundra but the side profile reminds me too much of a Tacoma, the tailgate and rear lights/bumper don't do much for me. I have found that the Tundra looks better in person than in pictures or video, not sure why, depth perception I guess, nonetheless, the new Tundra style has grown on me and I see myself purchasing one in the future!
Great review, the Ram looks so amazing….Dodge always had great design theme but it was their reliability is spotty. Tundra is OK and nothing ground breaking. Time will tell how reliable the new power plant will be…I wish the entry level Tundra would have the 5.7 litre engine.
Towing capacity, torque, HP, reliability, $20k less than the RAM... this is a no-brainer unless you're an old man "farmer JIM" who only buys America.... oh wait, the Toyota Tundra is built in Texas and pumps more money into the U.S. economy than GM, Ford, and RAM.
My 2021 Ram 1500 4x4 Limited Longhorn MSRP at $71,000. I only paid $58,890 out the door. It has the 3.92 gears. And can tow 11,217 lbs,, and haul 2,317 lbs.
Weird you got 2300lbs of payload from your 21 ram when google says it doesn't go up that high. Plus no way you're getting 2300lbs in a higher trim 4x4 ram. Rams are known for having the worst payload. Most are 1300lbs with high trim and 4x4. I think you need to check your sticker.
@@camonly849 You Go to the Ram Site and but in your Vin number and it will give you the Payload and and tow loads for you truck. A lot of has to due to rear gear ratio. I had 3.92 with Posi.
Drove both. I bought the Tundra because of the extra power and weight pull. Chrome does not impress me. I want a truck that will work over 100,000 miles. Ram can't do that. without going into the shop.
wanted to know if the air suspension was affected at all by the cold weather you experience up in Canada? I have a RAM limited 2022, been in a FORD F-150 for over ten years and when the current GEN of the RAM came out it was the trigger to move me over to RAM. Thanks for your honest inputs as there is no perfect truck, but to me the RAM gets really close.
@@robertmcghee3646 Not like the new Tundra has been winning many awards. It's been placing usually behind the big 3 Trucks in almost all comparison test so far. The highest I saw was 2nd place, but most are 3rd or 4th. It's not made to compete against Ford, GM or RAM. It's for people who only want a Toyota.
Really don't like the interior of the Tundra. For starters, everything is a straight line on the trim. So many sharp corners. Second, the screen looks like an afterthought. It looks like they just stuck a tablet in the dash with no thought on how to make it blend in. Ram really did knock it out of the park with their interior. As for capacity, look at the lower trims, they can haul a lot more. That top level trim is VERY heavy. Ram should have upgraded the suspension/tires to handle it better than just putting a lower capacity on it.
100% went with the ram limited specifically because its the same old hemi that just works with very few issues, the ram interior and ride are pretty hard to beat. not a fan of the multi function gate on the ram kind of wish i did get the longer bed and ram boxes with the 33gal tank but very happy with my ram. the new tundra is love it or hate it looks but its better in some colors and grills. first model year, twin turbo six, ehhh too much going on till its proves to be reliable (like old toyotas).
The engine in the Tundra isn't "new" it been used for years in the lexus platform. The V35A-FTS is a 3.5-liter twin-turbocharged V6 gasoline engine debuted in 2017 with the fifth-generation Lexus LS 500
Ram looks better than the Tundra. Not $20k better but, better. I think the new Sierra Denali has the nicest interior in the full size truck category and combined with the diesel gets better MPG and towing capacity than both Ram and Tundra.
You know what they say about opinions..... Ram DS being almost 6yo and still leads the pack bar none!!! The fact GM had to change interior's in less than 3 years and still is chasing says a lot about the design and quality!!!
@@joatmon1857 GM had the same interior from 2014 - 2022; not sure what this "less than 3 years" comment is based on. Also yes I'm aware of what they say about opinions - funny that's the statement you led with then immediately followed with your own opinion lol. Cheers.
@@joatmon1857”Ram” and “quality” are definitely not synonymous. Rams look good inside and out, but their reliability is by far the worst of any full-size truck.
The Ram is for executives with a huge vehicle allowance. As a Ram guy I like it..but dollar wise Tundra wins for the general masses, not getting that much more for dollars in the Ram. Truck makers left the work market a long time ago, which is fine, just takes longer to find basic trucks outside the the corporate fleet lease world.
Your not getting anything more. Your getting a less capable, less reliable, less powerful, truck and less resale value too for 20k more. This comparison favors the tundra heavily.
@tymt84 in Canada I'm with you but in America the capstone is priced exactly to the limited so to me the ram is where it's at especially lifted on 6's.
Tundra Capstone Four weeks in on a Capstone its been back to dealer for 8 days of the 28 days due to high levels of vibration increased under load and towing. 1. Took 50+ presses of the fuel cap release to get it to start working, 2. Rear tailgate same issue but continues. 3. The side steps keep staying out, 4. The middle rear seatbelt alert goes off without anyone sat in it, 5. The rear tailgate is 4x larger gap LHS than RHS, 6. The hybrid hasn't kicked in once sat in the school line stationery daily, 7. Gas mileage hasn't topped 16mpg with tops 8mpg towing 6K lbs along i10. 8. The screen has now failed and requires a pin every 10 to 20 minutes. 9. All niggles but the vibration under load with an empty car trailer and then loaded results in front seats shaking 1 to 2" forward and back at a high rate......according to 'experts' at Mike Calvert Toyota Houston this is apparently how Toyota trucks are. Including the panel spacing quote the Service Manager "all the Tundra's in our lot are that bad!"........
I'm not sure if in Canada it is similar to the US one truck sales. Typically a Toyota product there is no room to negotiate, you would typically pay MSRP plus some additional dealer mark up or maybe you can get those waived. Many Ram Trucks are discounted and the discounts can be huge. I was just quoted on a Dodge Ram Laramie 4x4 with Hemi, MSRP of $67,000 but I could buy this premium truck all day long for low $53,000 or 20% off sticker. I know on the Limited they do not offer as much in discounts but it is substantial enough right now to make it competitive with the Tundra. Other than that, I thought you guys did a great job with this review/comparison.
Having to put a loose rubber bedsheet to prevent slipping bugs me. Unless you pull it out and clean it all the time, you would be asking for mold and mildew in warm, humid climates. I've owned many Toyotas in the past, but some of their recent redesigns make me raise my eyebrows.
Mold and mildew? How would you have that on the rubber mat but not on a bedliner? You'd have the same chance. The stock lined beds on a Ram are slick as well and items slide around on those easily. Maybe not as much as the hard plastic but they still do. I don't mind as it makes unloading easier. I don't use a rubber mat now so I probably wouldn't then.
@@mountainhobo Between the rubber and the plastic? Nahh....never happened in 10 years that i owned a plastic bed liner with rubber mat and it got plenty wet. Nothing organic to grow on.
@@mountainhobo And if crap blows in, the mold will grow on it regardless of the surface. Bottomline, a rubber mat will not increase the chance significantly enough to be concerned with.
That a no brainer lol. Used Tundras are going for a premium over even new ones. Rams are discounted and my local lots are full of them. And we all know about Rams reliability issues.
@@norlansimon1746 They had to stop the fuel guzzling V8 because of Government regulations and buyers were wanting a full size pickup with better fuel economy
So many complain of the Tundras looks. Which I was apprehensive as well until I saw it in person. Certain models and colors look really good. I currently own a 2020 white tundra and the other day at the mall a 2023 white Platinum was parked next to me. It looked amazing imo. Better than a F150 or Ram though some of the new Chevy/GM’s look great. I’m still a fan of Ram and have owned I believe 8 of their pickups of the years but in this comparison I think the Tundra is the clear winner with the price difference. Especially when you consider resale value.
The options available tend to allow buyers the ability to hand select for their desires/needs. I had my Ram built with specific selections because no lots had the options I desired. I hadn’t shopped the Tundra 3 years ago. But if/when I look to buy again, I will.
Toyota sucks in this regard. You cannot just order a truck with your options. Toyotas are just randomly built with whatever packages and those are shipped to dealers. If they happen to get a vehicle that matches what you want then you’re in luck. I find it very irritating
That's the problem with these comparisons. I wouldn't buy either of them. I'd buy a Ram big horn with cloth seats, and my 2019 big horn can tow 11,000+ pounds with 1750 pounds of payload. The hemi is a proven power train, the very feature you guys were praising when you reviewed the last gen tundra.
@@FrameRot Completely not true. FCA puts these 5.7's in everything they build, there are literally millions and millions of these things on the road and even more millions that were built. No doubt you'll here a story or two of failure, that's just due to the scale and shear number that were built.
@@FrameRot There is no "failure by design". They had some quality issues with a vendor providing the lifters. The part isn't even made by FCA directly, you realize that right?
That’s a good one, calling Ram the king. I’m thankful for the later model Rams as they provide me with plenty of repair side work so I am able to take multiple vacations a year
@@bkkersey93 King of what?....the ridiculous transmission & electrical problems I see at 45k miles. Just out of warranty usually which I am somewhat grateful.....an extra Disney World trip for me. Don’t fret, Stellantis vehicles aren’t the only ones contributing to my vacations :)
I have a '21 Tundra and I love that body, but i also love this new one... Looks so clean on the front. I will say i feel like the New tundra SR5 is more underwhelming visually. I feel like this new gen the plat/1794/TRD are the only front ends looking the way i would buy them. Just my opinion tho.
I feel like if you had the capstone and the Ram Elite i think it would be a little closer comparison. In this comparison it kinda feels like apples and oranges in the fact that Ram does offer a cowboy truck and the Tundra does offer a Limited competitor. I understand however how hard that is to do and appreciate the video i just wish as a viewer i would have a closer comparison. My thoughts: I would want the Tundra because of that outward reliability that Toyota usually offers (once they get these hiccups worked out), Ram never has really gotten that reliability nailed down with their electronics and owners today are still having issue with that.
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Head to should have been the Ram Longhorn
It looks like everyone is struggling to sell new trucks right now. High prices and high interest rates are hurting sales.
F150 is currently the #1 selling vehicle this year, once again....must not be having too tough of a time selling
@@andybales7318 They’re probably still down in sales as everyone else is, just because you’re the leader doesn’t mean you’re not down in sales! 😒
Struggling to live
@@andybales7318they are all not selling new trucks here in the states every lot is full!! And with quite a few 22s leftovers too!! Ram especially if you search there are 2500 22 models left over country wide same with Chevy!! Ford about 1000 units too!!
Definitely won't be selling one to me at those prices, lol
I have a 2020 Ram Big Horn in the Built to Serve Edition. For a Big Horn it is pretty well optioned out. The truck rides so well and is really comfortable. Haven't towed a lot with it but when i have it has handled it like a champ.
Don't have too much confidence in that cheap chit.
Dodge/Fiat mark the price of that trash up to Ford Chevy and Toyota, but best believe once you start putting that cheap chit to real hard work, you'll forever be fixing things on it.
Never buy a Dodge truck for real hard work
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr gotta love the internet. Make a comment and someone has to respond with their overly negative opinion and try to bring people down.
@@jasonwilliams705 the truth matters above all even me.
Would it make you feel better if I were a robot program to tell facts on matters?
I'm just letting you know incase you don't know.
I'm more of a Chevy fan but not really *until I did the math , Ford makes the best trucks. I use to hear lots of bad talk about Ford and let me tell you "I was a fool to believe Chevy truck was better 🤦♂️"... I know a few Chevy and Dodge fans that turnt Ford now, they tell me that they were foolish also the whole time and now they knows what truck is the best
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr everyone thinks they are spewing the truth. It's your opinion. Ford has had quality issues, GM too. Even Toyota has had problems with the new Tundra. Meanwhile i'll enjoy driving my rig and not give a rip.
@@jasonwilliams705 look like someone 👀 in their feelings , it's just the truth, calm down
When I was shopping for a truck, I test drove them all. I ended up with a 2022 Ram Rebel. The interior of the Rebel was leaps and bounds above the rest. The Hemi provides plenty of power, the ride is fantastic and the overall look of the truck, to me at least, is better than the competition. I've had 22000 trouble free miles so far. The new Tundra, I don't know. I just can't get over the GIGANTIC FACE on that thing. They are great and dependable trucks, but I just don't like the overall look of the truck. Price point, I get it, but I'm still sticking with the Ram.That's my 2 cents worth.
The V8 would be a major decision factor. I had a 2008 Toyota Tundra with the 5.7L V8, plenty of power, extremely reliable...other than a few years that Toyota got a hold of a bad batch of axle and differential bearings, which unfortunately my Tundra fell victim of :(. The only way I'd buy another Tundra would be if it had a V8, so 2021 or older. Not a fan of that turbo engine crap that all these automakers are trying to push onto people.
Spot on opinion! Literally what I thought of and ended up doing as well. I have a 2023 Ram Rebel and absolutely love it. I tried to love the tundra but that grill is just too dang ugly.. I’m super happy with my decision, my ram rebel is the best
That trash, you'll regret you got that junk Dodge after 7 years
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr r u mad bro
@@Salvitrojan7 yea, that i can't afford a new Ford truck 🤗
I bought Toyota Limited hybrid year ago. I'm not happy with few small things about that truck, but overall very satisfied with my new choice. Used to be Ford 150 fan.
The 1794 trim level is the only other option I looked at while deciding which truck to buy. Im a Ram guy, and always will be.
Toyota did a great job with the 1794. However, it just isnt as "soft" and luxurious as the Limited, let alone the Limited Elite
I also dig your laid back Canadian attitudes. Super relaxed, but perfectly able to crack skulls if someone got sideways with you
I really like your channel. Its been fun to watch
What does ‘cracking skulls’ mean to you? Lmao
Your a child😂
What does looking at someone sideways mean? I literally do that quite often and nothing has happened to me yet
How would u know he can crack skulls?. So dumb
That Ram will not last as long as the Toyota and I guarantee Rams have more major failures before 200k than Toyota so there is that. I could care less which one is more luxurious I want a truck to work it and use it for my hauling needs. If I want Luxury I would buy a Lexus.
The ride difference comes down to the 20 inch wheels on the Tundra vs the 22 inch wheels on the Ram. I wish you guys would've gone more into the driving differences like the adaptive cruise control and other features they have for a comparison there. I'm not sure what the 1794 does or doesn't have compared to the Limited and would appreciate seeing and hearing your thoughts on the differences.
HUD display and other features are impressive.
It's 2024....adaptive cruise control isn't new. Parking assists and auto start stop features aren't new. All boring shit we've seen 100 times.
I very much agree with the Ram hybrid feel. It makes the start/stop invisible and it is the only time I drove a vehicle with it that I didn't search for a way to disable it. Other than that, it's unnoticeable. I absolutely love the split tailgate and Ramboxes. As someone who actually hauls and tows, they are great additions! You really lose nothing in the bed but gain lots of lockable storage for tools and towing gear. Unloading with the split tailgate is awesome. You don't need a step as you can damn near reach the back of the cab. Much more useful than the crazy gate from GM
Start/stop systems are trash, never get a vehicle with one
@@robertmccabe1919 Nope, works great.
It’s because it uses the 48v system to do the start/stop if I’m not mistaken. Had a jeep with one that used the belt driven generator to do the Stop/start instead of the starter motor. It was simply perfect. Everyone should do it that way.
@@gs98999 Agreed, they work well.
@@robertmccabe1919all new vehicles, at least every single one I’ve seen has it, luckily most have a button to disable it
I’d go with the Tundra. Great looking truck and priced right although still higher than it should be.
Ram regular Limited is still the one I would get.
The more comprable test would have been a Tundra with the Capstone trim... 22 inch wheels as standard, and the price would rival the Ram 1500 much more closely (Capstone = $77k USD)
Test drive a 2023 Tundra 1794 TRD Pro yesterday. Butter smooth, comfortable, and I do like the interior. Honestly wasn’t on my list of possible trucks, but now…it’s solidly on there. The display, honestly, better than the Ram. The vertical placement is weird to me. Not ugly, just something I’d have to take time to get used to. With the horizontal display, no issues, feels natural. The plastic in the Tundra bumpers, front & back…feels cheap. But the dependability? Phenomenal. Also, the truck I drove just had WAY too much chrome. The grill & all the other shiny stuff would get swapped out/wrapped/plasti-dipped. Can’t do that much chrome.
Haha yeah I love my 1794 but the chrome is gonna deleted bit by bit.
I just couldn’t resist the beautiful cab in the 1794 and it’s a TRD so I got the Bilsteins. I’ll do a 2 in front leveling kit, delete the chrome, and I’ll be set
Dude, 1794 and TRD Pro are two different trims.
You know what I like about you guys, you all three sound genuine in your comments. Keep it up.
Thank you! Will do!
I have a ram limited and was interested in a 22 tundra when it was time to trade my camry in due to the pricing. The ram got my purchase due to the air suspension and remote start. The tundra remote starts shuts off after you unlock the doors, very annoying in my camry and did not want to live with that again.
Sell that cheap a& Dodge and stop letting them make a fool of you bro
@@BruceDragon-sf1trDodge ? Have been in a coma for the last 13 years ? 😂😂 FYI Ram become a seperate brand and manufacturer way back in 2010 and production was moved to Chrysler plants. Nothing to do with Dodge .
RAM 100% ...I just love the interior 😊
Drove an air suspension ram from Ohio to Hilton Head, SC and it was amazing being able to lower the ride height with kids in-and-out and unpacking. Can't beat a Toyota though. Even in a new line the quality tends to be better long term.
The Best Top 3 Truck journalists in Canada!!!
Are there more?
Thanks so much for your Canadian perspective! I just bought a 2023 Tundra Platinum and every vid out there compares based on USD. Nice to see this CAD sticker price comparison. I would have loved for you to compare the L/100km.
I'm still solid on my choice for the Tundra. I'm just so excited to pick it up in two days. I'm now a subscriber, y'all were so comprehensive and informative in this review. Thank you!
Great channel guys
First off the reason why the ram felt a bit rougher was the 22inch wheels. A set of 20s on the air ride is an absolute amazing ride. Still the air suspension does a pretty decent job at smoothing out the 22s. Second thing sounds like that ram had 3.21 gearing. Throw the 3.92 gears in there and you're good to tow 11000lbs and have a much more stable and level truck then any other.
Love the tundra but the lines and designer look just like the ram! Look at the front again and notice the hood and the lines come off the hood into the grill almost exactly like the ram does. Either way tundra is still a well put together truck and the reliability and power and efficiency is definitely there. both trucks are nice buy what you like and like what works whichever that is.
I brought 2023 Tundra 1794 2 days ago. I love it!!!!!!!!!!!
The grill on the Tundra looks like a cheese grater.
The trim around the grill looks like a catfish or a truck with a handlebar mustache.
Hahaha.
Yes, its ashame that Toyota allowed its cars and trucks made in America. America made these dsys are worse quality than those made in Taiwan back in the 60.
😂😂😂lol‼️
Mmmm cheese 😊
Ram all day long. The air suspension is a game changer. Still don’t like the body style of the Toyota. Great video fellas thanks for all you do!
Nice the Tundra has a rear load leveling air suspension but yeah I've heard good things about the 4 corner air on the Ram. Also had no idea it's available on even Big Horn models, which is nice that it's not only on the top models.
And still the tundra rides smoother 😂
Got the auto load leveling on my 1794 edition. It works beautifully and I don’t have to worry about blinding people at night.
8600lb towing capacity for a modern half ton truck🤣🤣🤣🤣lmfao and I bet it feels like it's going to fly to pieces with that much on it lol.
@@T_81535 you absolutely right. I laugh at the Dodge fans , they're ranked amongst vehicles such as Kia, and Daewoo which are CHEAP, only difference is Dodge puts a high end price on it. Only fools and 🤡 buy Dodge vehicles thinking they have something special 🤣🤣
Ram limited with the night package looks/drives phenomally. If they were both the same price, I'd probably go with the Ram limited but as they are, the Tundra Platinum would be my go to.
Never owned a pick up and I am looking as we need it to haul a travel trailer. GM, Ford, Ram and Toyota all have lot to offer, and know every manufacture have issues. For me being NEW to the market tests drove Ram, Ford, GM they all had great things on the interior trims which were nice. Toyota will be this week as this video gave me something to think about. I look at everything from can it haul my travel trailer, reliability, and value for price. I Love this channel and is helping me in answering questions I have,
The Tundra is proof that the front grille actually CAN be too big. I think the black out grille doesn't look as bad as this one
That’s where I’m headed, at least the chrome “mustache” is getting blacked out. Luckily the middle is
grey
idk Its grown on me a lot
@@meow2367 That's because it's so big lol
Love my 22 Tundra Platinum Hybrid.
I think most people like me wanted a Tundra but could not order one, so we bought something else. Then the Sequoia came, as a ghost. You can't expect high volume if you can't have them in inventory. I waited 5 months for my '22 Rav4 Hybrid, 3 months for my '23 4Runner. Some people have been dropped from their Tundra orders because the year changed. That was more than 14 months of wait...
You’re correct, the lack of being able to order the Tundra is a serious disappointment. I was lucky that my dealer found my ‘23 1794 edition hybrid with the 6.5 ft bed in under two weeks. But there are people who have been waiting over six months to find the truck they want.
Wanted a TRD Pro, but couldn’t find one. Bought an LS500 w/ the twin-turbo V6…couldn’t be happier😂
Really interesting comparison. Thanks for doing it. I'm on my 3rd Ram, coming from a family of diehard Toyota fans. It's a good truck, and they've done a beautiful job on the interior design, but Ram trucks leak badly. Every single one of mine have leaked, and speaking to the dealer the new Rams do, too. They leak from the rear window, the 3rd high-mounted stop light, the GPS antenna, and most of all from the cab vents behind the rear seat. And I don't mean they get a little damp, I mean I've had standing water in the storage area beneath the rear bench. They've known about this problem for at least 3 generations of Ram and they're still ignoring it. So, people are spending $100K (which is ridiculous for a truck, by the way), and it's going to leak on them because Ram is too cheap to fix the existing problem.
Also, the 5.7 hemi has a habit of destroying itself when the problem with the lifters rears its head and they disintegrate, usually around the 200,000 mile mark. You made the point yourselves, the 5.7 Hemi has been around for ages. So, it begs the question: Why haven't they fixed that problem? They've known about it for DECADES!
So, having owned 3 Rams, I can honestly say I'm a fan, but I'm kind of sick of giving them my money only to later learn they refused to fix known/existing problems and dealers refuse to address them under warranty. At this point, I'd consider the Toyota just to get a truck that won't leak, or maybe detonate the engine after 200,000 miles, or maybe have decent, honest dealer support. I like the refresh that Toyota did with the Tundra. It looks pretty nice to me, inside and out. The only things I really don't like about it are the shifter (which looks like it came out of a 1987 parts bin) and the fact that the engine noise you're hearing is fake, piped in through the speakers nonstop while it's running. You can't even turn it off in the settings. Smh.
Honest review and a ram owner as well , glad to see you are not slamming either product I am pretty sure both are worthy of 5 stars if you were to enjoy their individual capabilities, they both are overpriced though .lol
Hey There,
The fake exhaust sound can be turned off by Toyota mechanics.
Haven’t driven one yet I’m in Australia so waiting for them to go through the engineering process to be converted to RHand drive.
Don’t think you could go past the torque on the hybrid version.
Live the videos guys.
I bought a GMC because I got tired of waiting for the new generation. Although the GMC interior was dated, the truck is much more refined. A lot less plastic, especially in the fender wells, bumpers and skid plates. And the tail gate is incredible.
I'm a Ram fan but for 25,000 more I'll take the Toyota all day long!
Since blue is my favorite color...that quilted Robin egg blue looks real upscale in the RAM
@@mikefoehr235 hydro blue is amazing on the ram and Toyota. It’s awesome
@@augustusgloop9330 It's my favorite too but I don't think they offer it on the 2500 anymore since 2021?
@@paulpetraitis2130 yeah I haven’t seen any on the lot with that colour
Yeah but it wasn’t a fair comparison either.
If they went with Ram 1500 Sport for example they would be in the same price range. In that case I’d go with Ram agin because it look better and it drives better.
Definitely the Tundra!
Well that Tundra will still be worth 3/4s of what you paid for it by the time it's paid for, the Ram will be in the shop and depreciated well over half
RAM will be in the junkyard.
Ram will be in the shop while the tundra drives past it and keeps going😂
@@kimle2796you're gonna need the tundra to tow that ram to the shop or the junkyard 😅
Toyota will be rotted out after the second year. It’s ugly, cheap, and garbage. And that’s why nobody buys them
@eyang7 , I actually saw exactly what you described , I saw an old tundra towing a newer ram to the shop
I just bought a 2023 Warlock quad cab so it has the 6 ft 4 inch bed, V-6, tow package with 355 gears, anti-spin rear, fogs, tow hooks, power rear window, power seat and i need to add VERY comfortable, fender liners, some other useful options and i got it at a great price, 9 grand off list. It's not a limited but not 75 grand USD either, i wouldn't mind having the HEMI with the 392 gears but the V-6 is fine and super smooth.
They forgot to mention the heads up display,the reclining back seats,the multifunctional drivers display,mirror cameras,the rearview camera in the rearview mirror,the auto collision feature front and rear,cranking ass premium Harmon Kardon system,the traffic cam notification and traffic speed zone awareness notification. This out does the Tundra by dozens. I love the stiffness of my elite.
The Tundra will last way longer. End of discussion. Way better truck. I own one. 2024.
Tundra literally has those options
The RAM 1500 Longhorn Limited is the premiere luxury truck with the 5.7 liter V8 Hemi ETorque engine. I have one and it's fantastic!
Great review!
Crazy now the Tundra is the value truck.
I hate the new look should have stuck to the old look
All they had to do was do a refreshed look with the front and rear end of the old one and put this interior and it would had been the perfect truck
Just wondering if the Ram's stiffer ride is due to heavier duty suspension, that mellows as it gets broken in.
Ain't nothing heavy duty about a ram suspension.
To be comparable even more, wouldn’t you compare the longhorn with the level 1 package to the 1794? Also I’m a Ram guy, I’m still not sold on the Tundra looks.
The Capstone is more of a competitor to this Ram than the 1794 is.
i could not drive the tundra, just stupid looking
@@davidmckibbin4440 I'm disappointed with the new Tundra. Looks too much like a GM from the side, and the grill is too much. With thos being all jew I was expecting more. Instead wr got a mid level competitor this isn't really class leading at anything but is instead more middle of the pack. I wish they'd have kept the 5.7 and updated it. 400hp and 425 torque wouldn't be out of the question for that engine.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix Toyota yeeted the V8 because fuel efficiency was the worst. About the grille... Sequoia has a nicer grille!
@@mottom2657 id rather have the less efficient, simpler engine if im keeping it long term. If I were just leaseing for 3 years I wouldn't even worry about the V8. They could have just revamped the V8 and made it more efficient. My wifes sequoia limited isn't as bad on fuel as I thought it would be, but it is a 2wd. I do lile the sequoia but id at least like to be able to choose to not go with a hybrid, again, if I were keeping it long term. Im sure that Toyotas TT v6 will last and be more reliable than the average TT v6 but I'd trade a couple mpg for the simpler engine with less that cpuld go wrong.
I had 3 rams in my life. I used to be a chevy guy until my engine blew at 83000 miles. My first ram had over 140000iles on it when i traded it and everything still worked. My second ram which i still have has over 205000 miles and everything still works. I used it as my work truck. My third ram is a 2022 ram gt. And that is my retirement truck. After having this trucks i will never drive anything else
Toyota will outlast ram… I have owned all the 4 trucks. Toyota holds its value and is just built better
Totally agree with you. If money isn't a factor, the ram is nicer..... but since this is real life and most of us value our money... the Tundra makes more sense.
But if you stepped up to the top in Tundra or down in Ram, the price is pretty much equal.
The tundra holds resale value while the Ram drops like a rock.
@@LayzeeGiant With 1/2-ton trucks brand really doesn't matter much. They all hold their value extremely well. Research says the GMC does the best in the long run.
@@Dusdaddyyour crazy too. Used tundras don't last while used rams, fords and Chevys sit on the lot forever.
@@T_81535 lol...ok. If you say it, it must be true! Or maybe the Tundras are rare because they just don't build that many to begin with...
You should do a vid on the 2024 dodge ram tungsten series with the new hurricane motor.
For the Tundra the Platinum trim looks the best!
Agreed.
Is the grill on the ram plastic like the tundra?
All grills are plastic.
Both are awesome trucks. I have a 22 tundra trd pro and a 21 ram limited night edition love them both.
Which one’s ride quality is better?
@@yz1235 both trucks have good ride quality, but the ram take’s it by a little due to having air suspension.
@@j1818-n4d thanks
@@yz1235 Yep! no problem.
With the prices of trucks today, it’s a total win for the tundra, total reliability
I know these are "luxury" trucks, and you're not buying these for the job site, but that 1k pound payload on the Ram is ridiculous for a full size truck. Like, it can't even carry 20% of it's own weight? Four people and their stuff will max out the payload, let alone anything heavy in the bed or tongue weight from a trailer.
You can fit 4 Americans at beat in that truck, and it would max out the payload. That's sad. A half ton truck shouldn't have less than 2,000lbs payload.
Over here in Texas the dealership markups made getting a Tundra hard vs the competition which were closer or at msrp
Toyota came down on the dealers for the markups
I love this review just hearing y’all talk about the reviews the experience love it. Down to earth I love it.
The most luxurious most awarded most reliable Ram 1500
I agree. Probably the most reliable among all Rams..
Someday it will get to the Tundra level of reliability. If only. Someday. 😉
@OnePlus2ins Orlando already passed the Tundra in 22 so get your facts straight 😁
Ram is the most outdated truck out there. 5.7 engine is weak and slow.
@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS Alright. Let's say that. 👍
@Good Bad Ugly most reliable like the 5.7 tundra was for years and for power mine has plenty of power and the best Transmission out there..most awarded most reliable 😀
Love your videos the best ! 🙌💪👊
I like the exterior styling of the Ram better. I don't like the way Toyota has done the rear bumper on the Tundra. I do think the Tundra is a better value.
The main point for me is dependability and reliability. One that will last beyond it's warranty. And with that, I would pick the Toyota.
Always wondered why the 6.4 Hemi isn't an option on the Ram. For the money their asking for it, it should have at least the 6.4 Hemi. Their both real nice trucks but their seriously expensive.
The 500HP Hurricane engine should become available in the Ram next year.
@@0HOON0 Exactly, the Hemi days are numbered.
Because the 392 will achieve a worse MPG # than the 345, and the OEM's are required to achieve a 20 MPG average across their fleet sales. Putting a 392 in a Ram 1500 would make achieving that a much harder task. Why do you think that GM is so selective on what they put a L87 in.?.?
I don't like that. I mean F the EPA, but the government CAFE regulations is why the OEM's are reluctant to put large ci V8's in modern trucks. Especially the big 3 whose volume sellers are large trucks and SUV's.
@@JROC734 Why is that a bad thing? It's an average of their fleet. They have the option of making it work by adding super-efficient models to the brand. Ford did with the Maverick. They don't because everyone shops by mpg. Some don't care but the average buyer sure does. And, it's obvious, the big v8 is just unnecessary anymore.
Any sign of the Hurricane engine? The hemi is awesome but any fuel gains would be appreciated Ram.
RAM💯 ..plus for 2024 it gets a exterior and interior refresh also new inline six twin turbo hurricane engine....thanks for sharing the comparisons 👍
Toyota , for one simply reason. Reliability!!
Tundra looks fine till you get to the grill. If it didn’t spill onto the bumper I think it would look much better.
Can you re do this with the sr5 and bighorn.
I like the front of the Tundra but the side profile reminds me too much of a Tacoma, the tailgate and rear lights/bumper don't do much for me. I have found that the Tundra looks better in person than in pictures or video, not sure why, depth perception I guess, nonetheless, the new Tundra style has grown on me and I see myself purchasing one in the future!
Ram for me ❤️
Just subscribed. I get the feeling this ppl know what they are talking about. It is a pleasure to watch these videos guys
welcome
Great review, the Ram looks so amazing….Dodge always had great design theme but it was their reliability is spotty.
Tundra is OK and nothing ground breaking. Time will tell how reliable the new power plant will be…I wish the entry level Tundra would have the 5.7 litre engine.
Towing capacity, torque, HP, reliability, $20k less than the RAM... this is a no-brainer unless you're an old man "farmer JIM" who only buys America.... oh wait, the Toyota Tundra is built in Texas and pumps more money into the U.S. economy than GM, Ford, and RAM.
Also ram is Italian Owned 😆 and mexicanbuilt. American in name only LMFAO
RAM reliability = spending time in the dealership. Per the dealer salesmen
@@daytrading5456 hold off on the reliability, we dont know yet
How about MPG as equipped?
The difference is reliability and resale value period and Toyota wins every time.
Reliability used to be Toyota with the old style design and the 5.7. This new truck is up in the air. Reliability is now definitely Ram among trucks.
@@chadd587 🤣🤣🤣
My 2021 Ram 1500 4x4 Limited Longhorn MSRP at $71,000. I only paid $58,890 out the door. It has the 3.92 gears. And can tow 11,217 lbs,, and haul 2,317 lbs.
Weird you got 2300lbs of payload from your 21 ram when google says it doesn't go up that high. Plus no way you're getting 2300lbs in a higher trim 4x4 ram. Rams are known for having the worst payload. Most are 1300lbs with high trim and 4x4. I think you need to check your sticker.
@@camonly849 You Go to the Ram Site and but in your Vin number and it will give you the Payload and and tow loads for you truck. A lot of has to due to rear gear ratio. I had 3.92 with Posi.
Drove both. I bought the Tundra because of the extra power and weight pull. Chrome does not impress me. I want a truck that will work over 100,000 miles. Ram can't do that. without going into the shop.
Thanks for doing this
wanted to know if the air suspension was affected at all by the cold weather you experience up in Canada? I have a RAM limited 2022, been in a FORD F-150 for over ten years and when the current GEN of the RAM came out it was the trigger to move me over to RAM. Thanks for your honest inputs as there is no perfect truck, but to me the RAM gets really close.
We have heard of some rare cases in extreme cold - in general no problems.
I wouldn't change my Tundra for any other brand . I have a SR5 2022 super happy with it
The Ram prices are being heavily discounted now, which the Tundra is commanding above MSRP.
They don't produce many of them to begin with, RAM averages over 3X the sales vs Tundra, lots to do with transaction prices.
that is exactly why I got the RAM over the Tundra, Toyota outpriced themselves over the competition.
@@robertmcghee3646 Not like the new Tundra has been winning many awards. It's been placing usually behind the big 3 Trucks in almost all comparison test so far. The highest I saw was 2nd place, but most are 3rd or 4th. It's not made to compete against Ford, GM or RAM. It's for people who only want a Toyota.
Really don't like the interior of the Tundra. For starters, everything is a straight line on the trim. So many sharp corners. Second, the screen looks like an afterthought. It looks like they just stuck a tablet in the dash with no thought on how to make it blend in. Ram really did knock it out of the park with their interior.
As for capacity, look at the lower trims, they can haul a lot more. That top level trim is VERY heavy. Ram should have upgraded the suspension/tires to handle it better than just putting a lower capacity on it.
Would buy the Tundra 1794 and did with AVS and power running boards. Absolutely love it!
Great video.
100% went with the ram limited specifically because its the same old hemi that just works with very few issues, the ram interior and ride are pretty hard to beat. not a fan of the multi function gate on the ram kind of wish i did get the longer bed and ram boxes with the 33gal tank but very happy with my ram. the new tundra is love it or hate it looks but its better in some colors and grills. first model year, twin turbo six, ehhh too much going on till its proves to be reliable (like old toyotas).
I’ll take a new design Toyota engine to outlast an old design Ram engine everyday. Resale values back this up too
@@kaseyc5078 Good luck with that. Toyota hasn't had much success with their " new stuff
The engine in the Tundra isn't "new" it been used for years in the lexus platform. The V35A-FTS is a 3.5-liter twin-turbocharged V6 gasoline engine debuted in 2017 with the fifth-generation Lexus LS 500
Hemi, the 20 year tick monster/cam eater?
Every guy I know who had the ram air bag suspension had nothing but problems in real Canada cold weather. Tundra resale is another HUGE factor!
Ram looks better than the Tundra. Not $20k better but, better. I think the new Sierra Denali has the nicest interior in the full size truck category and combined with the diesel gets better MPG and towing capacity than both Ram and Tundra.
You know what they say about opinions..... Ram DS being almost 6yo and still leads the pack bar none!!! The fact GM had to change interior's in less than 3 years and still is chasing says a lot about the design and quality!!!
@@joatmon1857 GM had the same interior from 2014 - 2022; not sure what this "less than 3 years" comment is based on. Also yes I'm aware of what they say about opinions - funny that's the statement you led with then immediately followed with your own opinion lol. Cheers.
Agreed, the Sierra Denali Ultimate hands down is the best truck in the segement!
I still think ram has the best interior but gmc has the best exterior.
@@joatmon1857”Ram” and “quality” are definitely not synonymous. Rams look good inside and out, but their reliability is by far the worst of any full-size truck.
I’m not familiar with the dodge line at all, but why wouldn’t you compare it to the Toyotas capstone trim line? Top trim vs top trim
The Ram is for executives with a huge vehicle allowance.
As a Ram guy I like it..but dollar wise Tundra wins for the general masses, not getting that much more for dollars in the Ram.
Truck makers left the work market a long time ago, which is fine, just takes longer to find basic trucks outside the the corporate fleet lease world.
Spec'd the same they are much closer in price. A Tundra Capstone is $80K as well.
Your not getting anything more. Your getting a less capable, less reliable, less powerful, truck and less resale value too for 20k more. This comparison favors the tundra heavily.
@tymt84 in Canada I'm with you but in America the capstone is priced exactly to the limited so to me the ram is where it's at especially lifted on 6's.
Tundra Capstone
Four weeks in on a Capstone its been back to dealer for 8 days of the 28 days due to high levels of vibration increased under load and towing.
1. Took 50+ presses of the fuel cap release to get it to start working,
2. Rear tailgate same issue but continues.
3. The side steps keep staying out,
4. The middle rear seatbelt alert goes off without anyone sat in it,
5. The rear tailgate is 4x larger gap LHS than RHS,
6. The hybrid hasn't kicked in once sat in the school line stationery daily,
7. Gas mileage hasn't topped 16mpg with tops 8mpg towing 6K lbs along i10.
8. The screen has now failed and requires a pin every 10 to 20 minutes.
9. All niggles but the vibration under load with an empty car trailer and then loaded results in front seats shaking 1 to 2" forward and back at a high rate......according to 'experts' at Mike Calvert Toyota Houston this is apparently how Toyota trucks are. Including the panel spacing quote the Service Manager "all the Tundra's in our lot are that bad!"........
Have to call shenanigans. I own one, tow with it all the time and I've had none of these problems. Also my mpgs is 21-22 regularly in the Hybrid.
I would buy the Tundra. I think that a truck with the price over hudred thousands dollars is ridiculous. So what in 5 years we gonna pay 125,000?
I don't think they are interested in selling their trucks to the average Joe. They are selling it to doctors and lawyers.
@@vuetube4558 I think that they're looking more for BMW or Mercedes.
Not only that, Rams value drops like a stone so you’ll be in the negative most of the time you’re paying for it.
I'm not sure if in Canada it is similar to the US one truck sales. Typically a Toyota product there is no room to negotiate, you would typically pay MSRP plus some additional dealer mark up or maybe you can get those waived. Many Ram Trucks are discounted and the discounts can be huge. I was just quoted on a Dodge Ram Laramie 4x4 with Hemi, MSRP of $67,000 but I could buy this premium truck all day long for low $53,000 or 20% off sticker. I know on the Limited they do not offer as much in discounts but it is substantial enough right now to make it competitive with the Tundra. Other than that, I thought you guys did a great job with this review/comparison.
Having to put a loose rubber bedsheet to prevent slipping bugs me. Unless you pull it out and clean it all the time, you would be asking for mold and mildew in warm, humid climates. I've owned many Toyotas in the past, but some of their recent redesigns make me raise my eyebrows.
Mold and mildew? How would you have that on the rubber mat but not on a bedliner? You'd have the same chance. The stock lined beds on a Ram are slick as well and items slide around on those easily. Maybe not as much as the hard plastic but they still do. I don't mind as it makes unloading easier. I don't use a rubber mat now so I probably wouldn't then.
@@Dusdaddy "How would you have that on the rubber mat but not on a bedliner? " -- BETWEEN the rubber and the bedliner.
@@mountainhobo Between the rubber and the plastic? Nahh....never happened in 10 years that i owned a plastic bed liner with rubber mat and it got plenty wet. Nothing organic to grow on.
@@Dusdaddy "Nothing organic to grow on." -- If you do not carry anything organic, or nothing organic ever blows in. I live in Florida.
@@mountainhobo And if crap blows in, the mold will grow on it regardless of the surface. Bottomline, a rubber mat will not increase the chance significantly enough to be concerned with.
You did not use the same exchange rate converting C$ to US$, or one of your listed amounts is wrong.
The Ram still looks great! Tundra has improved, but still a bit behind.
Which one is more Reliable and holds better resale value?
That a no brainer lol. Used Tundras are going for a premium over even new ones. Rams are discounted and my local lots are full of them. And we all know about Rams reliability issues.
@@LayzeeGiant Exactly !
Ram is owned by Stellantis and can only manufacture a POS vehicle.
Twin turbo V6 wait and see, big mistake taking down their V8
@@norlansimon1746 They had to stop the fuel guzzling V8 because of Government regulations and buyers were wanting a full size pickup with better fuel economy
So many complain of the Tundras looks. Which I was apprehensive as well until I saw it in person. Certain models and colors look really good. I currently own a 2020 white tundra and the other day at the mall a 2023 white Platinum was parked next to me. It looked amazing imo. Better than a F150 or Ram though some of the new Chevy/GM’s look great. I’m still a fan of Ram and have owned I believe 8 of their pickups of the years but in this comparison I think the Tundra is the clear winner with the price difference. Especially when you consider resale value.
Why not do the Capstone instead of the 1794? I thought the capstone was Toyota's highest trim for the Tundra.....???
I like the Sequoia front grille better than the Tundra.
I agree! You could change the bumper because it does fit. If I were to buy one I would consider that swap
The options available tend to allow buyers the ability to hand select for their desires/needs. I had my Ram built with specific selections because no lots had the options I desired. I hadn’t shopped the Tundra 3 years ago. But if/when I look to buy again, I will.
Toyota sucks in this regard. You cannot just order a truck with your options. Toyotas are just randomly built with whatever packages and those are shipped to dealers. If they happen to get a vehicle that matches what you want then you’re in luck. I find it very irritating
Tundra looks good from some angles and awful from others. That rear dumper is fugly
The grill resembles a catfish, lol.
just got a 23 Tundra platinum yesterday!
You forgot (I think) to mention the Toyota rear window rolls all the way down like the side windows. Ram has a partial sideways slider.
Isn't the Capstone the Top trim for the Tundra?
That's the problem with these comparisons. I wouldn't buy either of them. I'd buy a Ram big horn with cloth seats, and my 2019 big horn can tow 11,000+ pounds with 1750 pounds of payload. The hemi is a proven power train, the very feature you guys were praising when you reviewed the last gen tundra.
Proven? These engines are known to be prone to failure.
@@FrameRot Completely not true. FCA puts these 5.7's in everything they build, there are literally millions and millions of these things on the road and even more millions that were built. No doubt you'll here a story or two of failure, that's just due to the scale and shear number that were built.
@@JohnSmith-ev1sm yes, as one of their standard engines they will put it in a ton of their vehicles. Doesn't mean it's not prone to failure by design.
@@FrameRot There is no "failure by design". They had some quality issues with a vendor providing the lifters. The part isn't even made by FCA directly, you realize that right?
@@JohnSmith-ev1smso when do you say the "faulty lifter" issue was resolved?
Hemi lifter’s?
That’s a good one, calling Ram the king. I’m thankful for the later model Rams as they provide me with plenty of repair side work so I am able to take multiple vacations a year
HeHe..
Cause it is the king. Surely you can think your truck is better? That would REALLY be a good joke.
@@bkkersey93 King of what?....the ridiculous transmission & electrical problems I see at 45k miles. Just out of warranty usually which I am somewhat grateful.....an extra Disney World trip for me. Don’t fret, Stellantis vehicles aren’t the only ones contributing to my vacations :)
I have a '21 Tundra and I love that body, but i also love this new one... Looks so clean on the front. I will say i feel like the New tundra SR5 is more underwhelming visually. I feel like this new gen the plat/1794/TRD are the only front ends looking the way i would buy them. Just my opinion tho.
I see that you are RAM LOVERS in quality durability 💯 tundra
I feel like if you had the capstone and the Ram Elite i think it would be a little closer comparison. In this comparison it kinda feels like apples and oranges in the fact that Ram does offer a cowboy truck and the Tundra does offer a Limited competitor. I understand however how hard that is to do and appreciate the video i just wish as a viewer i would have a closer comparison.
My thoughts: I would want the Tundra because of that outward reliability that Toyota usually offers (once they get these hiccups worked out), Ram never has really gotten that reliability nailed down with their electronics and owners today are still having issue with that.