Love watching your videos, been following you for a few years now. This video reminded me of the time I helped you out last year on the Potomac river the Saturday 10 minutes before weigh in. 😁
Good stuff Brian. From how to drive the boat in big water, to battery knowledge, not enough pros doing what you do. Fishing from a boat takes more knowledge than just cast and retrieve. Thanks for providing that knowledge. ✌🏻😎🎣
Thanks for this in-depth view of lithium batteries. My AGM trolling battery is getting long in the tooth and I am just starting to investigate the new tech as it is half the weight. I may be able to run two now for more capacity.
Great Information Brian. Thinking about getting a Lithium battery for my boat and your video is really helpfull. I would like more info on the jump pack as well if you could provide it.
As a matter of fact, that's actually not what I meant. Had I meant that, I would have probably said, "too many adds pretending to be informative". @@gerrys6265
Yo Brian, could you do a comparison if you get the chance? Worm weights vs flipping weights, and why you'd pick one shape over the other and the differences between them? Cheers, Bradley.
Brian, I just found your video and thanks a lot! I have been considering going to Lihium but couldn't get factual information. Do you still charge your batteries after every day on the water?
Can you use a lead in place of a bad lithium or one with a problem to hold you over till you replace the battery ... I have a ultrex and does not go down to 24 ... Just for piece of mind ... Thank you and great info Brian
Thank You, Excellent & Informative video. But next time you might want to add that it is not a good idea not to lick the battery terminals. As it turns out, that is Bad.
Very good info you have given us. I also am considering upgrades to a lithium battery system. I wished you could expand and tell us more about the “ jump pack” that you mentioned around the seven minute mark. Seems like this needs to be an investment for the boat also. Also, I wished. I knew also about the charging systems. What kind of charger do you need to plug into to 120 volt AC at night? Does your Mercury 4 Stroke outboard charging system charge the batteries while your riding down the lake? Thanks Brian for the information. Your the best.
... I have been considering for a long time changing over and have been heavily researching lithium's for days now before I make my final decision. My 3 wet cell TM batteries need replacing as of last week so I am past the "considering" stage now. Just want to be sure I choose the correct 36v single battery on size, weight, charger and price. . .. If I may, and anyone please correct me if I have something incorrect. ... "jump pack" ... - Search NOCO or Hulkman jump packs for 12V batteries. I used to be concerned about having a dead/low starting battery until I bought the Hulkman 8.5. It does more than be a safety net for my Triton's 240 LTS starting battery. It has jumped my Ford van, 5.8L with e 100% dead battery a couple of times when I left the interior 8 lights on overnight. They also can charge anything that uses a USB port like phones, GoPro's, etc. Also has a multi selection for emergency lights. ... Charging ... Most if not all Lithium manufactures sell their own specific chargers. On board or stand alone (portable) so you just plug them in after a days outing. Some on board chargers (more $$) are capable of charging the Lithiums while the outboard is running. . The Power Pole system ($2000.00) will do that also. . Keep in mind, with 2 or 3 batteries in series, manufactures will mention that the batteries needs to be, "balanced." That is all to be at the same charge level all the time. A single 24v or 36v automatically does that itself. . . Jeff .
I carry one of the Noco jump packs in my vehicles all the time. They are much more handy than a set of jumper cables. The Noco packs that I have also have other safety features that we may not think about having accessibly to like a flashlight as another flashlight is always a good idea. Lastly and one of my favorite features is that I am able to use it to charge a cell phone, laptop or anything with a type C USB. All of those features and it takes up less space than a set of jumper cables. No brainer!
I have x2 Ionic lithium trolling batteries & x1 Ionic starting battery. I absolutely love my lonic batteries! I removed 160lbs. of weight in my boat by replacing x3 AGM batteries w/ x3 lithiums. Plus, I have an App that shows the condition of the batteries. The x3 Ionics with trays & Ionic charger cost me almost $2000.00 but they're worth every penny!
I also want a better explaination to the jump pack and good to go again as you say. I have Ionic lithiums but once its done im done. I have one batterie that dies witch i dont understand on a 24 volt system but yes I wake it up and get it charged but on the water your toast and are going home. I am also running the pp charge system as I think back you are also running is that correct?
Latt- I just recently purchased the MT lithium starting battery. I running a xs pro 150hp, at full throttle what are the chances that the voltage will exceed 14.6 volts. Also, what additional accessories who you recommend when using a MT in a starting application?
I already have lithium batteries in my Old Town. Auto pilot one 20s, but I also have a lund side Console 17 foot fishing boat and just purchased a minn kota terrova Trolling motor 80 pound thrust 24 V. So I need to buy 2 batteries but I don't want to spend the money on. Lithium, so going back to the regular deep cycle battery. Which one would you recommend? Because I need 2 of them? Thank you..
Question if you have to have a lithium charger to charge them how does your alternator on your motor charge them , do you have to buy another alternator for your mercury
Quick question; I have a MK 45lb. TM. Is it safe to use a 12V 100ah rated for 100 BMS? My TM Max Amp Draw is 42. I mainly troll. I was told it comes with 10AWG wires.
I actually lost 3 mph with a full tournament load in my co-angler when I went all lithium on my Phoenix PHX 20 so I took two out and put two regular AGM batteries back in helped a teensy bit with hole shot but other than that I didn’t notice anything truthfully, I think I wasted $3000
... If I may, ... ... @ stroke or 4 stroke, it does not matter. When in series, like for a trolling motor, do not mix batteries, They should all be the same. I plan to change 3 wet cell 12V group 27 batteries to a single 36v TM battery and keep my AGM Starting and House batteries because they are working great. . Jeff .
Good info. Sounds like lithium is a pain in the butt. My lead acid batteries don’t shut off, go to sleep, don’t care about moisture… am I missing an advantage to them?
They are. I would still remove as much moisture as possible from the stern. During the charging process the batteries create heat which causes condensation. The dryer you are the better off you’ll be.
Hmmm, So, your 36V miller 100Ah batteries in series cost $825 each x 3 = $2475, and they weigh 32 lbs each for total 96 lbs. In comparison; as an example... you could have gotten a 36V, 99Ah single battery, weighs 39 lbs, and cost $1700 AND has Bluetooth from Seaquestbattery. What am i missing ? ... oh, ok, this is a paid adv. video, sorry to horn in.
Why would you trust one battery to something as important as your trolling motors is what you’re missing. So if you did it your way you’d need 2 - 1700$ batteries which is 3400.
@@BrianLatimerFishing well, first thing, its never a good idea to put lithium batteries in series. It's 3 things to go wrong. BMS's dont work well in series and it really screws up the charging. 2 batteries in parallel would be 200Ah, doubling the cost.
ALL Lithium batteries are made in China. The mtech batteries are by far one of the best you can get, if not the very best. They are made to specs that are double the ruggedness of any other lithium batteries out there. Do your due diligence before spouting off!
Just checking too see if there are still scammers on this channel - let my comment show please! I’m creating a paper trail on every channel that they are on. V/R Reid
@@SpookyRedz There are several brands that you can get for the same price as an AGM. The brand I went with is Chins they have a 100AH same price as a Optima. Recommend you get their smart model which is about 600.ea.has bluetooth and heaters .
AGM only 50% capacity should be used without harming the battery and lithium you can utilize 100%. So if you have a 100ah battery, capacity = 100ah lithium and 50ah AGM.
Finally someone I trust to tell the good and the bad with Lithium, been waiting for it before I spend 2 grand
Love watching your videos, been following you for a few years now. This video reminded me of the time I helped you out last year on the Potomac river the Saturday 10 minutes before weigh in. 😁
Great video! Lots of good info without all the hype. Thanks!
Good stuff Brian. From how to drive the boat in big water, to battery knowledge, not enough pros doing what you do. Fishing from a boat takes more knowledge than just cast and retrieve. Thanks for providing that knowledge. ✌🏻😎🎣
Thanks for this in-depth view of lithium batteries. My AGM trolling battery is getting long in the tooth and I am just starting to investigate the new tech as it is half the weight. I may be able to run two now for more capacity.
Thanks for the information. I just got me a lithium battery for my kayak. Again, thanks.
Wow!!!!! Now that was a great and informative video 👍
Just discovered your channel and subscribed. Very informative and well presented.
Good video with great info. As a mechanic, I don't go for no I'm just gonna stop working bs.
Good stuff B. Lat! 👀 🎣 👊🏼💯🇺🇸
Thanks for the tips my friend
Great Information Brian. Thinking about getting a Lithium battery for my boat and your video is really helpfull. I would like more info on the jump pack as well if you could provide it.
So many videos on lithium batteries, and none anywhere as helpful as yours for having the info I was looking for. Thanks for a great video.
Too many adds pretending to be informative videos you mean.
As a matter of fact, that's actually not what I meant. Had I meant that, I would have probably said, "too many adds pretending to be informative". @@gerrys6265
Great information thank you.
Yo Brian, could you do a comparison if you get the chance? Worm weights vs flipping weights, and why you'd pick one shape over the other and the differences between them? Cheers, Bradley.
Hay Brian I would like to see you do a video on your charging system
Brian, I just found your video and thanks a lot! I have been considering going to Lihium but couldn't get factual information. Do you still charge your batteries after every day on the water?
Can you use a lead in place of a bad lithium or one with a problem to hold you over till you replace the battery ... I have a ultrex and does not go down to 24 ... Just for piece of mind ... Thank you and great info Brian
Thank You, Excellent & Informative video. But next time you might want to add that it is not a good idea not to lick the battery terminals. As it turns out, that is Bad.
Great video , I think I learn something ? I have a 24 volt pump I was going to buy two 12 v batteries .
Very good info you have given us. I also am considering upgrades to a lithium battery system. I wished you could expand and tell us more about the “ jump pack” that you mentioned around the seven minute mark. Seems like this needs to be an investment for the boat also.
Also, I wished. I knew also about the charging systems. What kind of charger do you need to plug into to 120 volt AC at night?
Does your Mercury 4 Stroke outboard charging system charge the batteries while your riding down the lake?
Thanks Brian for the information. Your the best.
... I have been considering for a long time changing over and have been heavily researching lithium's for days now before I make my final decision. My 3 wet cell TM batteries need replacing as of last week so I am past the "considering" stage now. Just want to be sure I choose the correct 36v single battery on size, weight, charger and price.
.
.. If I may, and anyone please correct me if I have something incorrect.
... "jump pack" ...
- Search NOCO or Hulkman jump packs for 12V batteries.
I used to be concerned about having a dead/low starting battery until I bought the Hulkman 8.5.
It does more than be a safety net for my Triton's 240 LTS starting battery.
It has jumped my Ford van, 5.8L with e 100% dead battery a couple of times when I left the interior 8 lights on overnight.
They also can charge anything that uses a USB port like phones, GoPro's, etc.
Also has a multi selection for emergency lights.
... Charging ...
Most if not all Lithium manufactures sell their own specific chargers.
On board or stand alone (portable) so you just plug them in after a days outing.
Some on board chargers (more $$) are capable of charging the Lithiums while the outboard is running.
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The Power Pole system ($2000.00) will do that also.
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Keep in mind, with 2 or 3 batteries in series, manufactures will mention that the batteries needs to be, "balanced." That is all to be at the same charge level all the time. A single 24v or 36v automatically does that itself.
.
. Jeff .
I carry one of the Noco jump packs in my vehicles all the time. They are much more handy than a set of jumper cables. The Noco packs that I have also have other safety features that we may not think about having accessibly to like a flashlight as another flashlight is always a good idea. Lastly and one of my favorite features is that I am able to use it to charge a cell phone, laptop or anything with a type C USB. All of those features and it takes up less space than a set of jumper cables. No brainer!
Good stuff
I have x2 Ionic lithium trolling batteries & x1 Ionic starting battery. I absolutely love my lonic batteries! I removed 160lbs. of weight in my boat by replacing x3 AGM batteries w/ x3 lithiums. Plus, I have an App that shows the condition of the batteries. The x3 Ionics with trays & Ionic charger cost me almost $2000.00 but they're worth every penny!
What motor are you running.....I have a SHO....
I also want a better explaination to the jump pack and good to go again as you say. I have Ionic lithiums but once its done im done. I have one batterie that dies witch i dont understand on a 24 volt system but yes I wake it up and get it charged but on the water your toast and are going home. I am also running the pp charge system as I think back you are also running is that correct?
Thx
Latt- I just recently purchased the MT lithium starting battery. I running a xs pro 150hp, at full throttle what are the chances that the voltage will exceed 14.6 volts. Also, what additional accessories who you recommend when using a MT in a starting application?
Brain what on board charger do you use for your millertech ‘s how is Set up ? Any info much appreciated
Hey Brian, which onboard charger do you use?
What is the size amp of your lithium cranking battery? Do the cranking cables connectors fits new lithium the same way as lead acid??
I already have lithium batteries in my Old Town. Auto pilot one 20s, but I also have a lund side Console 17 foot fishing boat and just purchased a minn kota terrova Trolling motor 80 pound thrust 24 V. So I need to buy 2 batteries but I don't want to spend the money on. Lithium, so going back to the regular deep cycle battery. Which one would you recommend? Because I need 2 of them? Thank you..
Question if you have to have a lithium charger to charge them how does your alternator on your motor charge them , do you have to buy another alternator for your mercury
Quick question; I have a MK 45lb. TM. Is it safe to use a 12V 100ah rated for 100 BMS? My TM Max Amp Draw is 42. I mainly troll. I was told it comes with 10AWG wires.
I've read that you shouldn't use lithium on Mercs or Yammies. Meaning ProXS (4 stroke) and SHO.
I read that they (Merc & Yamaha) specifically advise against it.
When you say to jump the Lithium battery, can you do that from a lead acid battery?
Thank you.
Yes
Hey Brian. If you leave the plug out of your boat and the water submerges the battery, will that ruin it forever?
Absolutely will! That’s any battery. If water covers the post it’s over.
I actually lost 3 mph with a full tournament load in my co-angler when I went all lithium on my Phoenix PHX 20 so I took two out and put two regular AGM batteries back in helped a teensy bit with hole shot but other than that I didn’t notice anything truthfully, I think I wasted $3000
Are these batteries just for 4 stroke engines and could they be mixed in with regular wet cell batteries?
... If I may, ...
... @ stroke or 4 stroke, it does not matter.
When in series, like for a trolling motor, do not mix batteries, They should all be the same.
I plan to change 3 wet cell 12V group 27 batteries to a single 36v TM battery and keep my AGM Starting and House batteries because they are working great.
. Jeff .
I had lithium batteries leave me stranded north of kellys island on erie. (tip dont try to rig them yourself)
Good info. Sounds like lithium is a pain in the butt. My lead acid batteries don’t shut off, go to sleep, don’t care about moisture… am I missing an advantage to them?
Lighter, last forever, charge faster, cheaper over long haul, same output all day long, easier to troubleshoot, takes up less space, no corrosion
Marine lithium batteries should be waterproof (IP67/66/65) and sealed so water doesn't get inside of them.
They are. I would still remove as much moisture as possible from the stern. During the charging process the batteries create heat which causes condensation. The dryer you are the better off you’ll be.
I’m probably going there, as for Mercury….please best pal is getting slammed by Mercury as we speak lol
That is a lot of money!
My right ear hates you right now. Haha. Good video though
just say it, I AM da MAN!
The title should read, 1 Thing You Need To Know Before Buying Lithium Marine Batteries, Just Do It.
you're not wrong! what batteries do you use?
Hmmm, So, your 36V miller 100Ah batteries in series cost $825 each x 3 = $2475, and they weigh 32 lbs each for total 96 lbs. In comparison; as an example... you could have gotten a 36V, 99Ah single battery, weighs 39 lbs, and cost $1700 AND has Bluetooth from Seaquestbattery. What am i missing ? ... oh, ok, this is a paid adv. video, sorry to horn in.
Why would you trust one battery to something as important as your trolling motors is what you’re missing. So if you did it your way you’d need 2 - 1700$ batteries which is 3400.
@@BrianLatimerFishing well, first thing, its never a good idea to put lithium batteries in series. It's 3 things to go wrong. BMS's dont work well in series and it really screws up the charging. 2 batteries in parallel would be 200Ah, doubling the cost.
mtech just started importing their chinese batteries in 2019. not a great track record.
ALL Lithium batteries are made in China. The mtech batteries are by far one of the best you can get, if not the very best. They are made to specs that are double the ruggedness of any other lithium batteries out there. Do your due diligence before spouting off!
Just checking too see if there are still scammers on this channel - let my comment show please!
I’m creating a paper trail on every channel that they are on.
V/R
Reid
SMART does not mean clever when it comes to technology... It is an acronym for SELF MONITORING AND REPORTING TECHNOLOGY.
What’s the price difference , 1 AGM to 1 lithium ?
Really depends on the size and amp hour capacity. The price difference is BIG
@@garymarch4711 group 31 to 31 ? For trolling motor ?
@@SpookyRedz There are several brands that you can get for the same price as an AGM. The brand I went with is Chins they have a 100AH same price as a Optima. Recommend you get their smart model which is about 600.ea.has bluetooth and heaters .
@@williamknight5142 thanks
AGM only 50% capacity should be used without harming the battery and lithium you can utilize 100%. So if you have a 100ah battery, capacity = 100ah lithium and 50ah AGM.