There _is_ one truly wondrous element of Nimbus III however… its extensive marshmelon fields. Marshmelon harvesting time on the planet is a _beautiful_ sight.
The fact that it has "Mossy" in the name tells us that it's as nice of a source of water as a stagnant slimy film-covered pond comes to mind with me. I can see people going there for a drink or a relieving dip, getting stopped by the stink and-or smell, and then the "water" itself reaching out to them and snatching them as snacks.
@@daviddyster4145 ; In the case of _Strange New Worlds_ it could be with Pike & crew doing a secondary survey of the world for colonization after it's initial one in 2247. In the case of _Discovery_ it could still be a desolate wasteland or, given the status of the Milky Way in DIS season 3, ironically one of the most affluent regions in the galaxy; perhaps even becoming the new capital of the UFP is they want it to be on a planet again & don't choose Earth.
While I HATE any kind of nod to Discovery, it would be interesting if somewhere in those shifting sands, something like a somewhat functional Iconian gateway transit system would be uncovered, and the planet suddenly becomes VERY important, to everyone… because, you know, dilithium problems.
I think Nimbus III would become a backwater world (More backwater than it already was) by 25th century. Because Klingon joined federation, Romulan empire ceased to exist, which essentially mean by that time it's well within range of UFP's backyard
Wouldn't the Federation increase their presence on the planet? Neither power was in any position to object, so the Federation could have easily turned it into a base.
@@CaptainJZH They could but there's not much of a point. It was on the galactic map because of its strategic and diplomatic value. Since two of the three bordering powers cease to exist, the only thing left for federation to terraform the planet is for resources, which Nimbus III has none. It's not worth diverting resources any more as I think there are other neiboring star systems that can be used. If you can settle on M-class planet, why bother settle on L-class planet if it has no other value attach to it? Unless later in-universe they add more value to it.
@@songyani3992 True but who's to say the Klingons won't turn their backs on the Federation for like the third time and that the new Romulan government will be just as conniving as the old one?
@@CaptainJZH On point with Klingon，but since romulans eventually returned to Ni'Var through the reunification long before，one would assume that there would be no centralized Romulan government any more. As for Klingons，they may or may not parted ways with UFP，but who knows when or if that happened？This would be a plot point worth exploring
Kind a shame STO doesn't have a fishing minigane, in a way. :-) You also didn't answer the biggest question raised by STV...where the **** did Uhuru get those palm fronds in this barren desert?
It does but it’s only during the winter event you get this nice fishing glove with which to punch the ice and strangle the insides of the fish with as you cart it off to the giant bowl in the middle of the pond
So......this supposedly planet of peace has now turned into basically Star Trek's equivalent of Borderland's Pandora? Well, without the gun fetish and flesh-skinning obsessed psychos......though, give a couple of decades.....
No vaults, no eridium, no sirens, no skags, no megacorporations with private armies, and most importantly, no Moxxi. Not much reason to stay there unless you really like sand.
I really really hope we get to see Nimbus 3 show up in a meaningful way in Picard. It just seems like it could be so cool to explore as a part of the relocation of the Romulans storyline. I just think the concept of Nimbus 3 is the best thing from Star Trek V.
To be fair, the location in STO helps make sense of the Enterprise trying to get to the center of the galaxy. (As if anything in that movie made sense.)
@@goldenknight578 Good point, I'd also point out that it might also be possible that it is near Klingon territory but that it is hard to visualize that in STO because the sector space map is more-or-less 2D while actual space, and therefore the territories of Star Trek's various civilizations, is 3D. Of course, I could be wrong about that, I'm not an expert in interstellar cartography, but that's always the head-canon I use to explain things when maps of the Star Trek universe contradict the information we are told about a planet's location in the shows or in STO.
I just finished re-watching your series on the starting missions for the Romulan faction. I think it would be a good idea to also make a series on the next Romulan story arc, since that gives a lot more background to the Elachi, and also since those missions are pretty good. It would be nice to see Vrina Tyral again.
Two possible reasons they didn't fix it up. First, it was supposed to be a joint venture, but if the Feds are the only ones pulling their weight, then it sends the wrong message for them to just do it all for the other partners. So, they might have decided that terraforming would just be good latinum after bad, and more or less wrote the place off. Sucks to be the colonists stuck there, of course, but pulling them back out would sabotage diplomatic relations, and the needs of the many, right? Besides, the Federation always has a bottomless supply of naive colonists, so a few hundred write-offs are no real loss in the long run. Second, the Federation might not actually have much in the way of good terraforming technology. I mean, Mars had been inhabited for generations, but even after centuries of work, it was still too cold for any agriculture outside of sealed domes, so the surface was still a dusty, rusty red. Protomatter would do the job, but the political situation would never allow it. Given the unstable mess of relations between the Klingons, Empire, and Federation - terms like "powder keg" come to mind - one side inviting a group of outsiders the other partners have never heard of, to set off protomatter devices on an inhabited world, seems like the sort of recipe to set off another three-way war.
@@tba113 The Lukari have protomater technology well advanced of any of the other Alliance powers, and have used it successfully on uninhabited worlds. We already know they can, the only question remains is whether they should. The Alliance powers in the STO timeline are fairly close knit toward the end of the Hur'q war. Getting them to the table to discuss it at the very least wouldn't be a problem. The colonists would have to agree, obviously. But we're offering them a chance at a better home, so it's just a matter of up-selling. From a story perspective, it might even be their idea. The only non-allied power that might have any interest or claim to Nimbus would be the Romulan Star Empire remnant, and the Tal Shiar. What's left of them anyway. And it might get contentious on account of the history during the evacuation. But they got caught with their pants down at Installation 18, so they're pretty much evicted now. There's also the Orion Syndicate, but they're a criminal organization without any real claim to the planet or political bargaining power. The main challenge there is convincing them to leave before the wave. The main thing stopping them is the presence of the colonies or any other existent life forms, both indigenous and invasive. The Lukari would probably refuse to proceed as long as there is any fauna remaining on the planet, and the Federation would probably back them on that point. If there are too many colonists and other complex life forms to adequately round up and temporally relocate or transplant to other worlds, then the whole deal is a wash. But if there's few enough of them that it's not a complete logistical nightmare, then it might just be within the realm of possibility.
@@Peregrine57 Well, let's just not tell the Tal Shiar about it. They can stay in their underground installations when everybody else sets off that protomatter.
@@Peregrine57 "Tightly knit"? The Klingons figured it was a better use of everyone's time to kick the hell out of the Federation rather than tell them they had an Undine problem, and when the Hur'q showed up out of their own legends, they shrugged and told the Feds "Not my problem." The Romulans seem to spend their time dreaming up new and exciting ways to sabotage everything, even - especially - the efforts of their own kind, and the Federation would be rightly hesitant to show off something as dangerous as protomatter in action to anyone who might leak it to the Tal Shiar. Still, I agree: getting them to the table to discuss it would likely not be hard. Getting them to _agree_ to the project, on the other hand... The Lukari were a Starfleet first-contact less than a year before the Hur'q war. The Federation might know their track record with protomatter, but there's no reason to believe the Klingons or Romulans do. The Lukari are so new on the galactic stage that the other powers might not accept the Federation's word that the Lukari know what they're doing. Given how the first 1/3 or so of the Hur'q war was spent trying to stop the Tzenkethi from reformatting world after world with protomatter bombs, claims about the Lukari being able to use the stuff safely would understandably be a tough sell. Internally, Klingon objections might be that having a miserable totally-not-a-prison outlet to dump their undesirables on is awfully handy, or that improving conditions on Nimbus would rob them of their chance at redemption through suffering. Publicly, they might say their fleet has better things to do than act as a hotel while renovations are going on, since making enough ships available to host thousands of colonists for weeks would involve a _lot_ of fleet resources. The Romulans might make the same claim: after all, they didn't have enough ships to save much of their own homeworld's population. They certainly don't have enough to spare for some backwater that isn't even in their territory, particularly after the devastation of the Undine, Iconian, 2nd Dominion, and Hur'q Wars all back-to-back. They might be fine with terraforming in principle, but would likely expect the Federation to handle all the logistics, especially since they would claim the Feds owe them for not helping out the last time Romulans needed help with a planetary evac. That means Starfleet gets stretched thin providing transports and accommodations for tens of thousands of colonists, and we all know how that sort of thing usually ends up.
One of my characters on STO, in my head cannon, made admiral and took an assignment as Planetary Governor of Nimbus due to his overwhelming popularity among Nimbusians and reputation among the Romulan, KDF, and Federation governments
not a fan of #5. all the even ones are the best. 2 and 6 are the best and can stand on there own to people that aren't even star trek fans, they're that good. i guess out of the bad odd numbered star treks, it's the best option. 1,3 , and 5 just pale when compared to 2, 4, and 6. wrath of kahn and undiscovered country are so good.
In Star Trek canon this world does not exist. When Star Trek V was release The Great Bird himself, upon watching Star Trek V, said "that didn't happen." This statement forever removed Star Trek V from canon, therefor nothing that happened in this movie happened. So based on the a decree by the Roddenberry himself, this world does not exist.
To me, this is like Arrakis of the Dune universe, minus giant sandworms and the spice Melange. It even has an analogue of Paul Atreides in Sybok... sort off.
I always thought the idea of Nimbus 3 was cool, and I hope they revisit this experiment in interstellar peace in future outings lol. Thank you for the nifty video! Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends. :)
Nimbus is near the Klingon border? In STO the Klingon Empi8re is pretty much at the bottom of the map while the Nimbus system is near the top. Unless the map is a 2D version of a wrap-around 3D map then I am not sure how this works ...... even if it is supposed to be a wrap-around map, still not sure how this works .....
You'd figure that a lack of government oversight might've made it like Kowloon city and become a packed den of illicit trade. The technology to deal with a harsh environment should already have been common place by that time especially if replicators are to be considered hence abundance would be tied to the availability of energy and desserts have plenty of readily available energy. Now, a lack of a specific government regulation might mean whatever terraforming effects there may be, may not be towards a pleasant environment as there would still be other economic interests.
Maybe the satellites have and orbital period equal to the rate of rotation...which would negate any tidal effects since gravitationally speaking...the focal point never moves, which means it cannot create any instabilities like Earth's moon does with its asynchronous orbital rate.
I now kind of want to see a show set on nimbus 3 (obviously called star trek nimbus), sort of more star trek does firefly, maybe have the main character be an ex marquis and have a crew made up of different factions (a Klingon, who was maybe became dishonorable to his people but really did nothing wrong and is trying to regain his honor, romulon, furangi, a cardassian, an Orion, maybe she was once an Orion slave and now works outside of the Orion synduct, maybe an ex section 31 operative, even an ex borg, etc), maybe they all have an old original series era federation ship (something that would have been scrapped long ago but was obtained by the marquis and was their ship while that conflict was going on, although it's had numerous upgrades including illegal modifications, like maybe a cloaking device, it still would struggle to fight even small modern ships and also it sometimes just breaks) which they use for smuggling, with nimbus 3 being the main planet they keep returning to. Maybe have a on going story revolving around the many different organisations that are doing secret operations on the planet (the romulans, the Orions, section 31, etc). For something I've only thought about for a few minutes this actually sounds interesting.
You mean like Bajor did? Because 'stable wormhole' is another way to spell 'money.' Or at least 'value' if the word 'money' sets your teeth on edge. You'd run straight from 'shithole because nobody cares' to 'shithole because everybody cares too much.' Bajor didn't immediately turn into something crazy because the closest thing to a rival power in the area were the Cardassians, who had just got done learning that the only reason their war with the Federation took as long as it did is because the Federation didn't much notice that there was a war. So not much of a rival.
What's really sad Is that nether the Klingons nor Romulans ever once thought about joining with The federation out of tactical desire. and don't bring up the khitomer accords. that had nothing to do with Klingon tactic's that was 100% good ol Federation High road playing out with style.
Ah yes... Nimbus 3. The one example of cooperation that could have ushered in a new age of peace, was corrupted by internal politics and infighting... mainly because the Federation was the only power willing to send actual settlers there. The Klingons and the Romulans only sent their undesirables there. We can obviously see where this leads. If only all the major powers involved took it as seriously as the Federation did... =/
The graphics of this game still makes me sad everytime I see it. Especially those total random and absurd dimensions of interior scenes like @7:25 - what the hell is this table supposed to be? And all the consoles are unreachable too. Also it's just sloppy developed, for example the offset shadows seen at @4:22. It's not that technical constraints are responsible. Someone just didn't care and said "meh, do it that way and release it". Although the idea of a Star Trek game where you can walk and fly around seems pretty nice.
I don't get it. There are Ferengi in Paradise but they haven't yet started the rumor that "there's latinum in them hills"? Even if there's nothing but sand and death, they'd make a bundle off of prospectors coming from all over the quadrant. More people made money outfiting prospectors during the California Gold Rush than ever struck it rich in the hills.
Meanwhile, in a parallel universe where the imagination of our universe is brought to life, a bunch people are stuck on that barren sand heap. Hating our guts for always and eternity.
I like to think of the planet as a metaphor for what happens if the many species don't get their crap together and cooperate, lifeless, hopeless stretch of nothingness.
As much as I love Star Trek Online, its placement really annoys me because its so far away from the Klingon Empire despite meant to be sharing a border between all 3 powers
I never understood why STO located it between Fed/Rom space when it's supposed to be between all 3 major powers which is why their govts jointly decided to develop it, a sentiment that died a quick death...probably from dehydration or alcohol 😂
It sounds like a cross between Australia and Wake Island, with a smattering of Chicago thrown in, to keep it going. It would be like crash landing inside the walls of NYC (Escape from New York)
There _is_ one truly wondrous element of Nimbus III however… its extensive marshmelon fields. Marshmelon harvesting time on the planet is a _beautiful_ sight.
@Nasty Mango With battery powered marshmelons.
@Nasty Mango Snooka snooka snooooh, snooka snooooh snooooh snooooh!
And what do you do after you've havested these marshmelons?
@@ethzero We toast them!
On Nimbus III, marshmelon harvest YOU!
Feels like the kind of place you'd expect to find a familiar looking firefly class transport . . . or Trevor Philips Industries.
Good timing, I'm in the middle of moving to an L-class biome called East Nevada
Ah, Space Australia, but only the outback.
Space Sahara or Gobi Desert more like it
@@DocWolph Yeah, Aussie outback has MORE life in it!
😅😅😅 oh my god someone pls give us a Nimbus series filled with Aussies 😅😅😅
Narrator "A single ocean, The Mossy sea"
Me looking at the map, scratches head. "Errr, Boss it says here, Mossy Ocean"
Oh thank shit, I was so confused.
@@radaro.9682 It's good to know I'm providing a valuable service :)
The fact that it has "Mossy" in the name tells us that it's as nice of a source of water as a stagnant slimy film-covered pond comes to mind with me. I can see people going there for a drink or a relieving dip, getting stopped by the stink and-or smell, and then the "water" itself reaching out to them and snatching them as snacks.
Hey at least the two dudes had a cute Romulan to interact with.
She definitely made the planet more atractive.
Too bad for her that the only guy close to cute is the Federation ambassador!
@@jordanodwyer6552 what you like the jolly klingon!
I would love to see Nimbus III make a return in Lower Decks or Picard.
Lower Decks would absolutely go here. It's a very obscure reference and it's cynical as hell; both of those fit that show's sense of humor to a T 😆
@jbwarner86 2 That would be a blast, I also would like to see it make a return on Strange New Worlds or Discovery.
@@daviddyster4145 ; In the case of _Strange New Worlds_ it could be with Pike & crew doing a secondary survey of the world for colonization after it's initial one in 2247. In the case of _Discovery_ it could still be a desolate wasteland or, given the status of the Milky Way in DIS season 3, ironically one of the most affluent regions in the galaxy; perhaps even becoming the new capital of the UFP is they want it to be on a planet again & don't choose Earth.
@@occultatumquaestio5226 Now that could work for Discovery Season 4.
While I HATE any kind of nod to Discovery, it would be interesting if somewhere in those shifting sands, something like a somewhat functional Iconian gateway transit system would be uncovered, and the planet suddenly becomes VERY important, to everyone… because, you know, dilithium problems.
So basically, Nimbus III is the planetary equivalent of Colonial Australia. Got it.
I think Australia has more life.
@@3Rayfire It does!
@Joshua Sharwood NONE of them have any clue!
Australia was essentially the breadbasket for all of the colonial world scum and as I see it nothing has changed.
Oh my god I love this 😅
This the kind of place where Han Solo and Captain Malcolm Reynolds would be at if they're in the Star Trek Universe
I think Nimbus III would become a backwater world (More backwater than it already was) by 25th century. Because Klingon joined federation, Romulan empire ceased to exist, which essentially mean by that time it's well within range of UFP's backyard
Wouldn't the Federation increase their presence on the planet? Neither power was in any position to object, so the Federation could have easily turned it into a base.
@@CaptainJZH They could but there's not much of a point. It was on the galactic map because of its strategic and diplomatic value. Since two of the three bordering powers cease to exist, the only thing left for federation to terraform the planet is for resources, which Nimbus III has none. It's not worth diverting resources any more as I think there are other neiboring star systems that can be used. If you can settle on M-class planet, why bother settle on L-class planet if it has no other value attach to it? Unless later in-universe they add more value to it.
@@songyani3992 True but who's to say the Klingons won't turn their backs on the Federation for like the third time and that the new Romulan government will be just as conniving as the old one?
@@CaptainJZH On point with Klingon，but since romulans eventually returned to Ni'Var through the reunification long before，one would assume that there would be no centralized Romulan government any more. As for Klingons，they may or may not parted ways with UFP，but who knows when or if that happened？This would be a plot point worth exploring
“After the federation-Klingon war in twenty sixty-fifty seven” this is what I tune in for😌
2256 - 57 is what he said
I heard "twenty two fifty six to fifty seven" and subtitles say "2256-57". 2:30
Sign off, "I've been Rick." heavily implies that he's not always Rick. :)
Great series BTW.
Yeah, Mr. Adventure was wrong, THIS is the *actual* ass end of space.
Kind a shame STO doesn't have a fishing minigane, in a way. :-) You also didn't answer the biggest question raised by STV...where the **** did Uhuru get those palm fronds in this barren desert?
I'd have enjoyed the no palm fronds version very much :D
It does but it’s only during the winter event you get this nice fishing glove with which to punch the ice and strangle the insides of the fish with as you cart it off to the giant bowl in the middle of the pond
So......this supposedly planet of peace has now turned into basically Star Trek's equivalent of Borderland's Pandora?
Well, without the gun fetish and flesh-skinning obsessed psychos......though, give a couple of decades.....
No vaults, no eridium, no sirens, no skags, no megacorporations with private armies, and most importantly, no Moxxi. Not much reason to stay there unless you really like sand.
Thats just what i was thinking
@@CheezyDee I stand corrected. Its apparently WORSE than Pandora.
@@CheezyDee Also, *insert "star wars sand joke" here*.
@@XanderKHD I'd take an enema if it got me with Padme
“It’s easy to be a saint in Paradise.”
A local resident: “Laugh and I’ll cut you.”
Thank you for the rundown on the rundown!
Step 1: Clone Guns N' Roses. Step 2: Exile them to Nimbus 3. Step 3: Gold-pressed Latinum.
Really enjoyed this, Rick. Thanks for all your effort producing a top quality upload as always.
I really really hope we get to see Nimbus 3 show up in a meaningful way in Picard. It just seems like it could be so cool to explore as a part of the relocation of the Romulans storyline. I just think the concept of Nimbus 3 is the best thing from Star Trek V.
The placement of this planet in STO always confused me. It was supposed to be close to klingon territory. Yet its right at the galactic north.
To be fair, the location in STO helps make sense of the Enterprise trying to get to the center of the galaxy. (As if anything in that movie made sense.)
@@goldenknight578 lol, this is true. I also thought that Romulus was farther east than it appears in the game.
@@goldenknight578 Good point, I'd also point out that it might also be possible that it is near Klingon territory but that it is hard to visualize that in STO because the sector space map is more-or-less 2D while actual space, and therefore the territories of Star Trek's various civilizations, is 3D. Of course, I could be wrong about that, I'm not an expert in interstellar cartography, but that's always the head-canon I use to explain things when maps of the Star Trek universe contradict the information we are told about a planet's location in the shows or in STO.
@@antoniabenson5165 it's also entirely possible it USED to be close to Klingon Territory, and the Empire's territory just got pushed down from it.
@@antoniabenson5165 Considering how hard it is for some people to think in 3D, you make a very good point.
I just finished re-watching your series on the starting missions for the Romulan faction.
I think it would be a good idea to also make a series on the next Romulan story arc, since that gives a lot more background to the Elachi, and also since those missions are pretty good.
It would be nice to see Vrina Tyral again.
Every time I always wonder what song you use that sounds like it's straight out of a Spaghetti Western. It just fits the theme of Nimbus III so well!
Couldn't we just move everybody up to the space station for a spell, then get the Lukari to zap it with protomater?
Two possible reasons they didn't fix it up.
First, it was supposed to be a joint venture, but if the Feds are the only ones pulling their weight, then it sends the wrong message for them to just do it all for the other partners. So, they might have decided that terraforming would just be good latinum after bad, and more or less wrote the place off. Sucks to be the colonists stuck there, of course, but pulling them back out would sabotage diplomatic relations, and the needs of the many, right? Besides, the Federation always has a bottomless supply of naive colonists, so a few hundred write-offs are no real loss in the long run.
Second, the Federation might not actually have much in the way of good terraforming technology. I mean, Mars had been inhabited for generations, but even after centuries of work, it was still too cold for any agriculture outside of sealed domes, so the surface was still a dusty, rusty red. Protomatter would do the job, but the political situation would never allow it. Given the unstable mess of relations between the Klingons, Empire, and Federation - terms like "powder keg" come to mind - one side inviting a group of outsiders the other partners have never heard of, to set off protomatter devices on an inhabited world, seems like the sort of recipe to set off another three-way war.
@@tba113 The Lukari have protomater technology well advanced of any of the other Alliance powers, and have used it successfully on uninhabited worlds. We already know they can, the only question remains is whether they should.
The Alliance powers in the STO timeline are fairly close knit toward the end of the Hur'q war. Getting them to the table to discuss it at the very least wouldn't be a problem.
The colonists would have to agree, obviously. But we're offering them a chance at a better home, so it's just a matter of up-selling. From a story perspective, it might even be their idea.
The only non-allied power that might have any interest or claim to Nimbus would be the Romulan Star Empire remnant, and the Tal Shiar. What's left of them anyway. And it might get contentious on account of the history during the evacuation. But they got caught with their pants down at Installation 18, so they're pretty much evicted now.
There's also the Orion Syndicate, but they're a criminal organization without any real claim to the planet or political bargaining power. The main challenge there is convincing them to leave before the wave.
The main thing stopping them is the presence of the colonies or any other existent life forms, both indigenous and invasive. The Lukari would probably refuse to proceed as long as there is any fauna remaining on the planet, and the Federation would probably back them on that point. If there are too many colonists and other complex life forms to adequately round up and temporally relocate or transplant to other worlds, then the whole deal is a wash. But if there's few enough of them that it's not a complete logistical nightmare, then it might just be within the realm of possibility.
@@Peregrine57 Well, let's just not tell the Tal Shiar about it. They can stay in their underground installations when everybody else sets off that protomatter.
@@tba113 You make the UFP sound the the Imperium of Man.
@@Peregrine57 "Tightly knit"? The Klingons figured it was a better use of everyone's time to kick the hell out of the Federation rather than tell them they had an Undine problem, and when the Hur'q showed up out of their own legends, they shrugged and told the Feds "Not my problem." The Romulans seem to spend their time dreaming up new and exciting ways to sabotage everything, even - especially - the efforts of their own kind, and the Federation would be rightly hesitant to show off something as dangerous as protomatter in action to anyone who might leak it to the Tal Shiar.
Still, I agree: getting them to the table to discuss it would likely not be hard.
Getting them to _agree_ to the project, on the other hand...
The Lukari were a Starfleet first-contact less than a year before the Hur'q war. The Federation might know their track record with protomatter, but there's no reason to believe the Klingons or Romulans do. The Lukari are so new on the galactic stage that the other powers might not accept the Federation's word that the Lukari know what they're doing. Given how the first 1/3 or so of the Hur'q war was spent trying to stop the Tzenkethi from reformatting world after world with protomatter bombs, claims about the Lukari being able to use the stuff safely would understandably be a tough sell.
Internally, Klingon objections might be that having a miserable totally-not-a-prison outlet to dump their undesirables on is awfully handy, or that improving conditions on Nimbus would rob them of their chance at redemption through suffering. Publicly, they might say their fleet has better things to do than act as a hotel while renovations are going on, since making enough ships available to host thousands of colonists for weeks would involve a _lot_ of fleet resources.
The Romulans might make the same claim: after all, they didn't have enough ships to save much of their own homeworld's population. They certainly don't have enough to spare for some backwater that isn't even in their territory, particularly after the devastation of the Undine, Iconian, 2nd Dominion, and Hur'q Wars all back-to-back. They might be fine with terraforming in principle, but would likely expect the Federation to handle all the logistics, especially since they would claim the Feds owe them for not helping out the last time Romulans needed help with a planetary evac.
That means Starfleet gets stretched thin providing transports and accommodations for tens of thousands of colonists, and we all know how that sort of thing usually ends up.
Thanks for a historical breakdown of Nimbus III and what it future may hold.
"you'll never find a more Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy!" 😋
Uuugh. I still have vivid and terrible memories of that goddamned canyon.
One of my characters on STO, in my head cannon, made admiral and took an assignment as Planetary Governor of Nimbus due to his overwhelming popularity among Nimbusians and reputation among the Romulan, KDF, and Federation governments
Are we sure this isn't actually Pandora from Borderlands?
Not enough spiderants
Borderlands was released in 2009. Star Trek V was released in 1989.
@@goldenknight578 yes... that's not the point
Whoosh! Right over his brain case.
I'd love to have this planet show up again, and someone joke about is this the planet where kirk fought with a 3 breasted cat lady?
Lower Decks, for sure
A failed Utopia? Star Trek finaly becoming self aware. Honestly Star Trek V is a much underated Movie.
not a fan of #5. all the even ones are the best. 2 and 6 are the best and can stand on there own to people that aren't even star trek fans, they're that good. i guess out of the bad odd numbered star treks, it's the best option. 1,3 , and 5 just pale when compared to 2, 4, and 6. wrath of kahn and undiscovered country are so good.
V had good ideas with a mixed bag execution.
In Star Trek canon this world does not exist. When Star Trek V was release The Great Bird himself, upon watching Star Trek V, said "that didn't happen." This statement forever removed Star Trek V from canon, therefor nothing that happened in this movie happened. So based on the a decree by the Roddenberry himself, this world does not exist.
I fucking love this place. Have a mainish alt with a TLC stationed there. Full STV set up.
To me, this is like Arrakis of the Dune universe, minus giant sandworms and the spice Melange. It even has an analogue of Paul Atreides in Sybok... sort off.
So Arrakis without any of the things that make Arrakis, Arrakis?
@@zackkelley2940 It is a pale imitation. That's it.
Take me down to Paradise City
Where the girls are green and the sand is gritty
So Nimbus 3 is pretty much space Australia.
WHAT? NO fishing? I'm NOT going!
Nimbus 3 is the Tatooine of Star Trek. You will never find a more wrecked hive of scum & villainy.
so nimbus 3 is basically the tatooine desert planet of star trek
I'd love to see all the various ship concept arts get covered...
I always thought the idea of Nimbus 3 was cool, and I hope they revisit this experiment in interstellar peace in future outings lol. Thank you for the nifty video!
Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends. :)
The fishing is indeed terrific.
Because it can claim fishing rights to all the water within 200 nautical lightyears.
Makes me thing STO is trying to tap into the Firefly/Serenity mystique.
The planet pre=dates them. if anything, the makeers of firefly probably went "hey, we cpould totally make a series out of this planet!"
Is the music from the original "The stand" mini series ?
So, that's pretty much Pandora from Borderlands.
Cept most of the wildlife is imported, rather than native.
MY GOD! This was the comment I was looking for! 🤯
I see a lot of STO here lol. Fitting because I've been on Nimbus III all day helping my wife with accolades.
What about that Freewheel, or Freeform, or whatever it was called? The one in the RoboPicard series.
I propose a new slogan: Nimbus III: Go for the Endeavor, stay for the... nope, leave right away.
So the planet is basically Space Australia. Is that where Jeice comes from?
Everytime a world without plants is shown as inhabited by humanoids I wonder: Where does the oxygen come from?
Moss.
There probably are plants off by the coasts - I mean, there's got to be a reason it's called the Mossy Sea.
2:30 what is that? Warhammer 40k ship running into StarTrek?
Do the Jurai Empire from Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki next, a word of warning... its from an Anime :P.
RimWorld?
start trade and communication between empires before building a joint outpost to be a hub of trade and understanding
That's some weird creepy music at the end there 😳
Nimbus is near the Klingon border? In STO the Klingon Empi8re is pretty much at the bottom of the map while the Nimbus system is near the top. Unless the map is a 2D version of a wrap-around 3D map then I am not sure how this works ...... even if it is supposed to be a wrap-around map, still not sure how this works .....
Huh, I thought Discovery and Picard we're Star Treks dead end.
It's like Star Trek's own version of Tatooine, only worse!😂
Nimbus III - absolute shit to live there. But wonderfull backdrop for Storytelling!
You'd figure that a lack of government oversight might've made it like Kowloon city and become a packed den of illicit trade. The technology to deal with a harsh environment should already have been common place by that time especially if replicators are to be considered hence abundance would be tied to the availability of energy and desserts have plenty of readily available energy. Now, a lack of a specific government regulation might mean whatever terraforming effects there may be, may not be towards a pleasant environment as there would still be other economic interests.
OOOOOh what ship is that? I have wanted to design a ship of my own for a long time and that is very close to what I had in my head.
Maybe the satellites have and orbital period equal to the rate of rotation...which would negate any tidal effects since gravitationally speaking...the focal point never moves, which means it cannot create any instabilities like Earth's moon does with its asynchronous orbital rate.
A Romulan, a human, and a Klingon walk into a bar...
I think we need a series set on nimbus 3
I've always hated the Nimbus III stuff in STO, good to know there's a reason why now.
Seems the planet's geological activity stopped during an age where it's continents were in the continental drift form of a super-continent.
a world like this would always appear to some, think of the kind of people you see on shows like those Alaskan( s) shows on the Discovery Channel
So Star Treks version of Tatooine and Jakku. I knew I hated this place in Star Trek Online for some reason now I see why.
Blame it on Shatner. He's the one who came up with Nimbus.
Some strong Fallout: New Vegas vibes here.
I now kind of want to see a show set on nimbus 3 (obviously called star trek nimbus), sort of more star trek does firefly, maybe have the main character be an ex marquis and have a crew made up of different factions (a Klingon, who was maybe became dishonorable to his people but really did nothing wrong and is trying to regain his honor, romulon, furangi, a cardassian, an Orion, maybe she was once an Orion slave and now works outside of the Orion synduct, maybe an ex section 31 operative, even an ex borg, etc), maybe they all have an old original series era federation ship (something that would have been scrapped long ago but was obtained by the marquis and was their ship while that conflict was going on, although it's had numerous upgrades including illegal modifications, like maybe a cloaking device, it still would struggle to fight even small modern ships and also it sometimes just breaks) which they use for smuggling, with nimbus 3 being the main planet they keep returning to. Maybe have a on going story revolving around the many different organisations that are doing secret operations on the planet (the romulans, the Orions, section 31, etc).
For something I've only thought about for a few minutes this actually sounds interesting.
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Uh, fellas, wasn’t Nimbus 3 the name of the Airboard Biff used in Back to The Future 2? Sad!
I actually made a crossover fic that a stable wormhole was found near Nimbus 3, so the planet became the planet of galactic peace once again.
You mean like Bajor did? Because 'stable wormhole' is another way to spell 'money.' Or at least 'value' if the word 'money' sets your teeth on edge. You'd run straight from 'shithole because nobody cares' to 'shithole because everybody cares too much.'
Bajor didn't immediately turn into something crazy because the closest thing to a rival power in the area were the Cardassians, who had just got done learning that the only reason their war with the Federation took as long as it did is because the Federation didn't much notice that there was a war. So not much of a rival.
@@boobah5643 Well... That's in an arc also. Powers from both ends (it opens up to another galaxy) compete for the wormhole.
Andorians must have hated the heat on that planet.
What's really sad Is that nether the Klingons nor Romulans ever once thought about joining with The federation out of tactical desire. and don't bring up the khitomer accords. that had nothing to do with Klingon tactic's that was 100% good ol Federation High road playing out with style.
What’s the beta canon for Robert Fox?
Ah yes... Nimbus 3. The one example of cooperation that could have ushered in a new age of peace, was corrupted by internal politics and infighting... mainly because the Federation was the only power willing to send actual settlers there. The Klingons and the Romulans only sent their undesirables there. We can obviously see where this leads. If only all the major powers involved took it as seriously as the Federation did... =/
“The planet of galactic peace”….. AKA a planet thats not worth invading and holding due to not being worth it since its a hot dustball.
The graphics of this game still makes me sad everytime I see it. Especially those total random and absurd dimensions of interior scenes like @7:25 - what the hell is this table supposed to be? And all the consoles are unreachable too. Also it's just sloppy developed, for example the offset shadows seen at @4:22. It's not that technical constraints are responsible. Someone just didn't care and said "meh, do it that way and release it". Although the idea of a Star Trek game where you can walk and fly around seems pretty nice.
How can the fishing be non existent if an ocean exists?
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You can't force pole to get along in the name of Peace.
I don't get it. There are Ferengi in Paradise but they haven't yet started the rumor that "there's latinum in them hills"? Even if there's nothing but sand and death, they'd make a bundle off of prospectors coming from all over the quadrant. More people made money outfiting prospectors during the California Gold Rush than ever struck it rich in the hills.
Seems like a good place for a smugglers/pirates/criminals to set up shop.
In a novel, sadly, Nimbus III was destroyed in the Hobos supernova.
Meanwhile, in a parallel universe where the imagination of our universe is brought to life, a bunch people are stuck on that barren sand heap. Hating our guts for always and eternity.
If imagination manifests would the planet itself not be a terraformed paradise?
@@wingedfish1175 No, because *we* don't think of it as paradise. We think of it as a cruel irony.
However, it will be the setting for a new Star Wars film when they need to find another hero on another desert planet.
reminds me of rimworld for some reason
Master of hounds
I like to think of the planet as a metaphor for what happens if the many species don't get their crap together and cooperate, lifeless, hopeless stretch of nothingness.
Nimbus 3 is the same kind of world as Pandora is in Borderlands
So, it's not just a blatant ripoff of Tatooine?
Star Wars is blatant
Well, it failed because they didn't build two more Nimbus stations...
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Nimbus III the "Borderlands" of Star Trek.
As much as I love Star Trek Online, its placement really annoys me because its so far away from the Klingon Empire despite meant to be sharing a border between all 3 powers
desert surrounded by ocean....no fish? Doan believe it.
I never understood why STO located it between Fed/Rom space when it's supposed to be between all 3 major powers which is why their govts jointly decided to develop it, a sentiment that died a quick death...probably from dehydration or alcohol 😂
Oh goodness, so it's supposed to be near the UFP, KDF and the RSE, yet Cryptic puts it right next to Hobus lol
It sounds like a cross between Australia and Wake Island,
with a smattering of Chicago thrown in, to keep it going.
It would be like crash landing inside the walls of NYC
(Escape from New York)