Honestly, after finding out about all the tricks and skips people do, this feels insanely impressive. The shrogos, the thorn skips, and the speed of it all just baffles me. This is amazing.
Without a mind to think Without the will to break it Without a voice to cry sadly Born of emptiness and god You will seal the plague light that flooded their dreams You are a vessel You are a hollow knight
Umm well actually, it's: No cost too great, No mind to think, No will to break, No voice to cry suffering. Born of God and Void, You shall seal the blinding light that plagues their dreams. You are the Vessel. You are the Hollow Knight.
"Once I saw the face of God, a vast and sudden silence among the noisy heavens. That evening I dreamt I listened to one side of a conversation I should not have overheard. I do not watch the skies anymore."
@@TheSilly6403 It's some random youtube thing, I think it was part of an arg at some point but I'm not sure. I'll send a second reply in a moment with the video.
@@VerIsHereI don’t think abyssal shriek refreshing your double jump is such rare info. I knew about that before watching the video. He probably picked the info up randomly some time while scrolling like I did.
@NYEH_HEH_HEH that isn't the only thing I meant, but learning how to do a glitch is different from knowing it exists, and even if they did know every glitch they used beforehand (as seems likely tbf given this isn't their first task) this I'd still difficult to create, which is what my origonal comment meant.
Very much depends on the setting, normal movement through areas in base game is probably around 2 hours per minute, these platforming challenges are substantially longer. The modded Rock Bottom one took me 11 hours for 2 minutes of content. I didn't keep track but this was probably around 6-8 hours, a lot of the time is spent shrogoing so I don't have to TAS any movement for 0.59s, and a lot of the shrogos were copy pasted inputs. The final result is always worth it :)
1:32 seems humanly doable, it looks like shriek-pogos could replace the thorn-skip, I am just not sure that it would be faster than the thorn-skip-skip.
It's been a year since Clawless Path of Pain was completed. But this video caught my eye. It's so cool. I hope more people see this video. So can I repost this video and the version with the hitbox to Bilibili, where the vast majority of players in the Chinese HK community are. I will state that this video is reproduced and write a link to the video. I won't get any financial benefit from it.
Some developments might be able to make this faster now, but that was done a long time ago already. Dashless also isn't horrible rta if you practice some of the tricks. Here's a tas someone else made th-cam.com/video/i41yGEu5puQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Wallonice
Nope, take a closer look. Walljumps have a very specific animation, this is just another case of thorns not fully covering an area and being able to stand there. At the beginning and during the inventory drop I also show the inventory, I don't have claw at all.
if I counted correctly there are 28 abyssal shriek pogos used, with the longest chain of them consecutively being 6 (bonus: 1 descending dark and 4 shade souls being used to fight the kingsmoulds at the end
kamakiller and Levi967 (on youtube) have both done this rta but they used kingsoul. I assumed TAS wouldn't need it, but was still surprised how much better shrogos are with TAS.
It's super useful when you're speedrunning the game and have to quickly get 1800 essence, abyss shriek, and beat the path of pain for the journal entry but you don't have claw
This isn't AI. TAS is made by humans giving a list of inputs for a computer to follow frame by frame. By using save states to go back over parts, we can tweak every part of the movement until it cuts it as close as possible to be as fast as possible.
There is a singular tall room right after the first elevator that's impossible to get up. I still intend to test in TAS to see how close it is but it's definitely impossible.
Some players of this really like torture huh? I just started playing the game(i know, VERY LATE) and couldnt even fathom a possibility where i get through this.
This is a TAS, so I effectively played the game in super slomo and redid parts over and over until it was perfect. There is a human version of this on youtube though. Dont get discouraged, a very small amount of players decide to take the premise of this game incredibly far, but even playing it normally it is an absolute masterpiece.
Abyss shriek alone does not, but you can pogo your own spell (therefore the name "shrogo"). Its very precise, and you need to use wings to get high enough for the pogo so its shriek>wings>pogo>repeat.
Its a TAS, meaning I went through this frame by frame, redoing parts until its perfect. Humans have done this too though using kingsoul for more shrogos.
Without mantis claw/ability to wall jump, it's the only way to get super high up. It's a self-imposed restriction to see how fast path of pain can be cleared despite it.
Just a while ago it was easy to beat a bot in a game, but now we stand no chance against machine learning. (This Speedrun had no machine learning in it)
TAS stands for tool assisted speedruning, its not machine learning/AI/bot. Its a person playing the game in super slow mo, fine tuning inputs one frame at a time.
This is a TAS (tool assisted speedrun), which means I played through the game in super slomo with hitboxes and other tools, as well as being able to go back and redo sections until they were as good as I could get them. TASes are made by humans, so theyre only as good as the person making them, but I dont think theres too much time that can be saved in this.
At the start, he shows his abilities and he doesn't have claw. In that moment (and several others), he just stepped on a tiny bit of ground on that platform, that isn't in the hitbox of the thorns.
low% pop isnt all that interesting. Wings is required for the absolute first jump. If you skip claw (2%), you instead need 3 soul vessels (3%) and twister (1%). One of shriek or cdash (both 2%) are required after the first checkpoint in the first room, and cdash is just easier to utilize there and at the middle of room 3. Dash's only replacement would be VS (2% vs 1%) but the end of room 3 isnt doable with only 3 fireballs so adding either a soul vessel or twister (1%) makes it the same completion. So the gear is dash(2)+claw(2)+wings(2)+cdash/shriek(2)=8% completion. To actually get there youd need dnail and a few bosses/essence grinding.
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What no Silksong does to a TASBot
Dude this doesn’t even look real to me, one of the most impressive things I’ve seen in a while
Yeah, it looks like it was done by a bot!
@@sleeper6548it technically is it’s a tas
@@Just-a-fellow-league-enjoyer r/woooosh
@@sleeper6548 bro you didn’t understand either
@Canadian_snowman that was sarcasm...
Went so fast that the music even progressed as it should
Honestly, after finding out about all the tricks and skips people do, this feels insanely impressive. The shrogos, the thorn skips, and the speed of it all just baffles me. This is amazing.
Thorn skip skip skip is wild
Its a tool asisted speedrun, meaning that the movements are programmed
Bro they better release silksong.
Without a mind to think
Without the will to break it
Without a voice to cry sadly
Born of emptiness and god
You will seal the plague light that flooded their dreams
You are a vessel
You are a hollow knight
this is what happens when you do things by memory.
@@anidiot4702 yes
Bro did the no cost too great speech WITHOUT the no cost too great.
without a claw to grab
Umm well actually, it's:
No cost too great,
No mind to think,
No will to break,
No voice to cry suffering.
Born of God and Void,
You shall seal the blinding light that plagues their dreams.
You are the Vessel.
You are the Hollow Knight.
The wall: I've never met this man in my life.
The music really fits whats going on (and the shocked look on my face)
"Once I saw the face of God, a vast and sudden silence among the noisy heavens.
That evening I dreamt I listened to one side of a conversation I should not have overheard.
I do not watch the skies anymore."
That sounds familiar, what's that quoting?
@@TheSilly6403 It's some random youtube thing, I think it was part of an arg at some point but I'm not sure. I'll send a second reply in a moment with the video.
@@TheSilly6403 th-cam.com/video/QjPKVS-9WZo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RMuBZllnXNjk6ECe
@@TheSilly6403 th-cam.com/video/QjPKVS-9WZo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RMuBZllnXNjk6ECe
@@TheSilly6403 Just look up "Once I saw the face of god" and you should find it. Can't send links here.
I was thinking... path of pain... without... dash
Is possible and was made by a human not TAS
they fcking did it
@@HassanIQ777 ye AlfredoGrulli did
It's actually a very fun challenge and not as difficult as one would expect
I am traumatized after doing path of pain that I will probably never going to it again, but still.
The amount of screaming the TAS bot does is relative to Silksong's presence right now.
Its chilling that ive seen the final "cutscene" a thousand times and It still moves something when i watch it
this is absolutely insane, big congrats!!!
Is a bot
@widen_ Yes, thats what a TAS is. It still took the creator several weeks to create and research the glitches required, so it is still impressive.
@@VerIsHereI don’t think abyssal shriek refreshing your double jump is such rare info. I knew about that before watching the video. He probably picked the info up randomly some time while scrolling like I did.
@NYEH_HEH_HEH that isn't the only thing I meant, but learning how to do a glitch is different from knowing it exists, and even if they did know every glitch they used beforehand (as seems likely tbf given this isn't their first task) this I'd still difficult to create, which is what my origonal comment meant.
@@VerIsHere yeah, not denying that tas takes lots of time and effort.
Before watching: lol this dude misspelled "flawless"
After watching: holy shit
How long does it take to make these? they’re so fun to watch!
Very much depends on the setting, normal movement through areas in base game is probably around 2 hours per minute, these platforming challenges are substantially longer. The modded Rock Bottom one took me 11 hours for 2 minutes of content. I didn't keep track but this was probably around 6-8 hours, a lot of the time is spent shrogoing so I don't have to TAS any movement for 0.59s, and a lot of the shrogos were copy pasted inputs. The final result is always worth it :)
@@jalepinojoe6285damn bro 11 hours for 2 minutes is insane. I hope you blow up soon because you are way underrated
Damn and here i am, just finished normal path of pain
dude this was so cool
Bro has the path of pain for breakfast
Fireborn should react to this,because this is an insane run
Siiiick as hell, as a pop speedrunner it’s extremely cool to see this :)
Bro is just flying through all the path
After all, it really was a skill issue.
1:32 seems humanly doable, it looks like shriek-pogos could replace the thorn-skip, I am just not sure that it would be faster than the thorn-skip-skip.
it would be faster but not consistent so for top tier speedruns we just do thorn skip skip
That's the real hollow knight playing the games
shrogo is too powerful
I'm amazed by this, but also by the fact that with shrogo we have now thorn skip skip skip
“RAAAAAGH” - thr knight every 5 minutes
I was just wondering today if this was possible IN MY MIND. HOW THE HECK AM I GETTING THIS RECOMMENDED
It's been a year since Clawless Path of Pain was completed. But this video caught my eye. It's so cool. I hope more people see this video. So can I repost this video and the version with the hitbox to Bilibili, where the vast majority of players in the Chinese HK community are. I will state that this video is reproduced and write a link to the video. I won't get any financial benefit from it.
Thank you! And yes, as long as my name is still credited in the title you can share it on bilibili. Send me the link once its up!
Cant wait for dashless PoP
Some developments might be able to make this faster now, but that was done a long time ago already. Dashless also isn't horrible rta if you practice some of the tricks. Here's a tas someone else made th-cam.com/video/i41yGEu5puQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Wallonice
Thank god this is a TAS
It's flawless for sure.
1:26-claw use, but it's still impressive
Nope, take a closer look. Walljumps have a very specific animation, this is just another case of thorns not fully covering an area and being able to stand there. At the beginning and during the inventory drop I also show the inventory, I don't have claw at all.
if I counted correctly there are 28 abyssal shriek pogos used, with the longest chain of them consecutively being 6 (bonus: 1 descending dark and 4 shade souls being used to fight the kingsmoulds at the end
sorry for being that guy, but it's technically Descending Dark. i just love the spell and its name, so i had to
@@iwuanadie1058 no problem i forgot to change it to the second version
Pov your crush is watching you play:
pp
jaw on the floor through the whole thing jesus christ why is this possible and howd you figure out it was doable
kamakiller and Levi967 (on youtube) have both done this rta but they used kingsoul. I assumed TAS wouldn't need it, but was still surprised how much better shrogos are with TAS.
this is totally insane. we need fireb0rn to explain this frame by frame
YOU CAN POGO THE ABYSS SHRIEK?????
Yeah, pretty late game stuff though. So, there aren't many skips and stuff you can do with it.
you can also pogo vengeful spirit!!
You truly are a monster
Very cool
Que porr@ foi essa que eu ví..... Meu deus do céu,faz 7 dias que tô tentando passar SÓ a primeira arte e ele faz isso🥲👍
How the hell is there already a use for the abyss shriek pogo?
It's super useful when you're speedrunning the game and have to quickly get 1800 essence, abyss shriek, and beat the path of pain for the journal entry but you don't have claw
this is insane af
Thanks for instructions 👍 (but really, very awesome tas)
세상은 넓고 고인물은 대단하구나
This guy is not even human. He's an AI bot.
well you've got a point but im pretty sure the bot inputs were given frame by frame
Despite the fact that it is AI (TAS, okay), this looks cool
This isn't AI. TAS is made by humans giving a list of inputs for a computer to follow frame by frame. By using save states to go back over parts, we can tweak every part of the movement until it cuts it as close as possible to be as fast as possible.
@@jalepinojoe6285 I know that TAS is speed playthrough using the built-in tools of the emulator, I was waiting for your comment)
Damn clawless is crazy😊
Dude I need someone like u to do path of pain I can’t:(
This felt longer than 2.24,66 minutes
What does shreik do?
Normal people: lots of damage
This TAS: mantis claw
is normal WP possible without claw? if so Im pretty sure that TE clawless is possible
There is a singular tall room right after the first elevator that's impossible to get up. I still intend to test in TAS to see how close it is but it's definitely impossible.
@@jalepinojoe6285 okay, I'll turn notifs on. Also you make some really good TASes, keep it up 👍
That was freaking ni damage😳
Who needs thorn skip when you have shrogo
I miss playing hollow knight
This if shrogo was not discovered:
(Someone make PoP TAS without Sharp Shadow pls)
Impressive 😮
Some players of this really like torture huh? I just started playing the game(i know, VERY LATE) and couldnt even fathom a possibility where i get through this.
It's never too late to play a masterpiece like HK.
@@martinquetzal5346 I'm having fun with it so far, I just got dream nail. I'm trying to get a few more upgrades before I continue the main story.
This is a TAS, so I effectively played the game in super slomo and redid parts over and over until it was perfect. There is a human version of this on youtube though. Dont get discouraged, a very small amount of players decide to take the premise of this game incredibly far, but even playing it normally it is an absolute masterpiece.
@@jalepinojoe6285 I mean I managed the flower yesterday so I guess anything is possible since that mission borders on insanity XD
I am still trying to beat this in the normal way, so you are telling me I am garbage
Didn't know you could refresh your double jump with a scream
because u couldnt
TAS bot be like: haha abyssal shriek go brrrr
Oh my lord!
Wait... ABYSS SHRIEK LETS YOU DO ANOTHER JUMP? I DIDNT KNOW.
Abyss shriek alone does not, but you can pogo your own spell (therefore the name "shrogo"). Its very precise, and you need to use wings to get high enough for the pogo so its shriek>wings>pogo>repeat.
Nice joycon 😮
2 words JESUS CHRIST
Is this real? My jaw was dropped the entire time
Its a TAS, meaning I went through this frame by frame, redoing parts until its perfect. Humans have done this too though using kingsoul for more shrogos.
excuse me, what the actual fuck am i watching? who is this man?
Even slowed down to 0.25, How did you pogo anything at 0:49 ???
Didn't see it was a tas but still 😂
ok I understand everything but why is he doing the abbys pogo a lot?
Without mantis claw/ability to wall jump, it's the only way to get super high up. It's a self-imposed restriction to see how fast path of pain can be cleared despite it.
oh fuck I just read the title said clawless
I shouldn't be on the pc 24/7 I guess 💀💀💀💀
masoquismo é útil depende pelo visto
what does shrogo mean?
Abyss shriek pogo
See how they abyss shriek then pogo on thin air? There's a very precise glitch that allows you to pogo the abyss shriek.
People discovered that you can actually pogo off of the hitbox of the abyss shriek if you time it properly. Abyss SHRiek pOGO = SHROGO
no no, you definitely used mantis claw like 100 times. Right?
no
Seems doable.
What did just happen?😂
Just a while ago it was easy to beat a bot in a game, but now we stand no chance against machine learning. (This Speedrun had no machine learning in it)
TAS stands for tool assisted speedruning, its not machine learning/AI/bot. Its a person playing the game in super slow mo, fine tuning inputs one frame at a time.
Oh, that's cool. I didn't know that.
Y cuanto daño te hicieron
Mi pana:
Is this AI made? bro seens unreal but awesomeeee
This is a TAS (tool assisted speedrun), which means I played through the game in super slomo with hitboxes and other tools, as well as being able to go back and redo sections until they were as good as I could get them. TASes are made by humans, so theyre only as good as the person making them, but I dont think theres too much time that can be saved in this.
아니 내가 방금 뭘 본거지...
oH GID
O___O HOW THE FUCK?????? HOW DID YOU DO THAT??????? i cant even do path of pain WITH mantis claw?????
No human could ever actually do this
I'm sorry, what the fuck?
Nah i saw him use claw
How tf did he do this without mantis claw
Path of pain but how do i wall jump i forgor
Should I feel ashamed that I can’t even beat it normally but tas can do it without even clawing?
You'll get there (if you want to), path of pain is hell the first time around, but the second and third times its already significantly easier!
well you could do it with tas
BRO
Bro he keeps doing celeste corner hops wht
_how_
No fucking way
0:48
What
Nawh I thought it was real
what the hell
1:25 he used claw there
At the start, he shows his abilities and he doesn't have claw. In that moment (and several others), he just stepped on a tiny bit of ground on that platform, that isn't in the hitbox of the thorns.
@@jindrak736 oh sorry im dumb lol
New low% possible?
low% pop isnt all that interesting. Wings is required for the absolute first jump. If you skip claw (2%), you instead need 3 soul vessels (3%) and twister (1%). One of shriek or cdash (both 2%) are required after the first checkpoint in the first room, and cdash is just easier to utilize there and at the middle of room 3. Dash's only replacement would be VS (2% vs 1%) but the end of room 3 isnt doable with only 3 fireballs so adding either a soul vessel or twister (1%) makes it the same completion. So the gear is dash(2)+claw(2)+wings(2)+cdash/shriek(2)=8% completion. To actually get there youd need dnail and a few bosses/essence grinding.
@@jalepinojoe6285 gotcha, good point
This is fake because u cant pogo off of Thorns
Is this humanly possible?
Kamakiller and Levi967 on youtube have both done it! They used kingsoul to be able to use more than 8 shrieks in a chain so it's more lenient.
@@jalepinojoe6285 :0
nah its easy
eh, i could do better
ez spammer