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what a great project! I love prerendered backgrounds. Somehow they have an appeal that modern full 3D games just don't have. Thats the reason I regularly go back to games like Final Fantasy 7-9 or Resident Evil, Z, etc. :).
Hey, it's Aaron here from Defy Reality Entertainment. Glad you like the project! Definitely agree with the prerendered appeal. It's fun watching a render come to life on screen too! :)
I absolutely love prerendered backgrounds and OG resident evil games. I've done this style tech in Unity, Unreal and custom engine. The side game I'm working on now uses prerendered backgrounds, and while it gives you that true OG nostalgic feel and complete artistic freedom, there are lot of drawbacks of using in a modern engine that's not built for it, your iteration time will be much slower. e.g. a simple "hey I want to place an item pickup on this shelve" can be very painful, because you have your visuals (2D image) and your simplified collision geometry (which doesn't match your visuals 1:1, its simplified), you kind of have to blindly place the object where you think the shelves are, and run the game, is it in the right place? Yes? Lucky, No? (probably), try again. Transparency can be a big pain to get right (or get at all) so you usually have to resort to dithering or cutouts (fake transparency). It works, it just takes a lot of work and effort. And if your prerenders aren't absolutely jaw dropping stunning pretty, there really isn't much difference in doing it real-time in engine with a fixed camera. For that reason I think Aaron did an amazing job here, it is no simple feat to finish a game like this, congrats! Game looks awesome btw
@@AaronGwynaireGameDev i never really played these kind of games, but curious. is it like the player have different choices, then the story can go in different ways? like multiple ending and things like that?
Yes, so there will be a variety of endings, and it does come down to choice, and the non-linear gameplay will enable each player to take their own route to solving the puzzles, etc @@lalinhooka100
Glad you enjoyed it and found it inspiring! One of my goals here was to reach out to game devs and inspire them! :) I love how everyone’s on their own journeys!
That's some great pedigree...the Millers created an absolute work of art with the Myst series, and if you haven't read the book series that fleshes out that universe, I'd definitely recommend it. Big footprints to walk in for sure, but the style of this looks great and seems to evoke that same feeling. And Microprose is responsible for probably my absolute favorite DOS-era game, Darklands. I'd fight many people to be the person who got the chance to reboot that game franchise!
Definitely agree. I have read Myst The Book of Atrus! My plan is to write books to detail more of the backstory for Neyyah (and beyond). Glad you feel the similar vibe of Neyyah. For me it’s a natural form to fall into. Microprose are awesome! A great fit for Neyyah’s nostalgia :) feel free to wishlist Neyyah on Steam!
@@AaronGwynaireGameDev I don't use Steam much because parent life leaves me both time and financially strapped, but I'll WL it because I'd definitely like to check it out even if I can't immediately on release!
Thanks so much! It was a joy chatting with Thomas :) he’s doing wonders for the game dev community! Glad you vibe Neyyah too! Feel free to see more / wishlist Neyyah on Steam!
Bought your game Pinstripe, downloaded your free2D kit. You're simply just awesome & really inspire me as an indie game dev....I'm mostly business support...but I'm learning C# & wrote my first code. CHEERS!!
While UE5 is an absolute contender for the looks. I really appreciate these old games if well done. The photorealistic slideshow style gets really personal and feels real in an almost weird way.
Interesting interview! In General the whole series was informative so far. First time I hear that publisher are hungry for content currently, had expected the opposite actually. Considering how much new games constantly coming out. What’s do you think is the reason for it COVID production delays? Or something totally else? Most people I know say I’m way to late for it.
I think its a couple things. Companies are now realizing that strong Niches can be very profitable. most successful indie games at the moment Hit these Niche communities with games that they want so it generates great reviews and good money. I also think that most of these companies want to get Bought by bigger companies right now and the best way to get that is to make critical successes. They don't need to make tooons of money right now but if they see you have a bunch of well made and Highly praised games then they can always market them later or do a sequel that will make more money
@@suitNtie22 that makes totally sense, didn’t consider the resend condensation thats happing would actually affect indies too. But yeah that was kinda an oversight from me.
I loved Myst and riven. And I agree that their real time render versions lost a bit of the soul of the game. Definitely gonna keep an eye on this game, very nostalgic!
Thanks for watching! Hope you learned a ton.
► Follow Aaron here: linktr.ee/defyrealityentertainment
► Learn how to become a full time game dev, free: www.fulltimegamedev.com/opt-in-how-to-make-six-figures
► Enroll in my 3D workshop, free!: www.fulltimegamedev.com/opt-in-15-minute-3D-game
► Make your game instantly beautiful with my free workbook: www.fulltimegamedev.com/opt-in-instant-beauty-color-workbook
► Get my 2D game kit, free: www.fulltimegamedev.com/opt-in-2D-game-kit
► Join my 2D character workshop, free: www.fulltimegamedev.com/opt-in-2d-character-art-workshop
► Wishlist Twisted Tower: store.steampowered.com/app/1575990/Twisted_Tower/
► Learn how to make money as a TH-camr: www.fulltimegamedev.com/opt-in-indie-game-income-workshop
17:18 is why Thomas is a great conversationalist. He listens well and try to understand what the opponent is trying to say
what a great project! I love prerendered backgrounds. Somehow they have an appeal that modern full 3D games just don't have. Thats the reason I regularly go back to games like Final Fantasy 7-9 or Resident Evil, Z, etc. :).
Hey, it's Aaron here from Defy Reality Entertainment. Glad you like the project! Definitely agree with the prerendered appeal. It's fun watching a render come to life on screen too! :)
I absolutely love prerendered backgrounds and OG resident evil games. I've done this style tech in Unity, Unreal and custom engine. The side game I'm working on now uses prerendered backgrounds, and while it gives you that true OG nostalgic feel and complete artistic freedom, there are lot of drawbacks of using in a modern engine that's not built for it, your iteration time will be much slower.
e.g. a simple "hey I want to place an item pickup on this shelve" can be very painful, because you have your visuals (2D image) and your simplified collision geometry (which doesn't match your visuals 1:1, its simplified), you kind of have to blindly place the object where you think the shelves are, and run the game, is it in the right place? Yes? Lucky, No? (probably), try again. Transparency can be a big pain to get right (or get at all) so you usually have to resort to dithering or cutouts (fake transparency). It works, it just takes a lot of work and effort. And if your prerenders aren't absolutely jaw dropping stunning pretty, there really isn't much difference in doing it real-time in engine with a fixed camera.
For that reason I think Aaron did an amazing job here, it is no simple feat to finish a game like this, congrats! Game looks awesome btw
I miss playing point and click games like MYST. Fantastic looking game, Aaron! Great interview, Thomas!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the interview, and a call back to the original Myst and Riven games, for sure! Feel free to wishlist Neyyah on Steam!
@@AaronGwynaireGameDev I absolutely will! :)
@@AaronGwynaireGameDev i never really played these kind of games, but curious. is it like the player have different choices, then the story can go in different ways? like multiple ending and things like that?
Yes, so there will be a variety of endings, and it does come down to choice, and the non-linear gameplay will enable each player to take their own route to solving the puzzles, etc
@@lalinhooka100
The game looks amazing! Really captured the style well!
I am looking forward to this interview Thomas. Aaron is good friend of mine. Can't wait. we meet through a indie group on facebook. :)
Hope you enjoyed it Stevie!
One of the most inspirig talk ever about gamedev! Thank You both and congrats!
Glad you enjoyed it and found it inspiring! One of my goals here was to reach out to game devs and inspire them! :) I love how everyone’s on their own journeys!
Game looks incredible. Love the artstyle.
Thanks! Feel free to wishlist / see more of Neyyah on Steam: store.steampowered.com/app/1289720/Neyyah/
That's some great pedigree...the Millers created an absolute work of art with the Myst series, and if you haven't read the book series that fleshes out that universe, I'd definitely recommend it. Big footprints to walk in for sure, but the style of this looks great and seems to evoke that same feeling.
And Microprose is responsible for probably my absolute favorite DOS-era game, Darklands. I'd fight many people to be the person who got the chance to reboot that game franchise!
Definitely agree. I have read Myst The Book of Atrus! My plan is to write books to detail more of the backstory for Neyyah (and beyond). Glad you feel the similar vibe of Neyyah. For me it’s a natural form to fall into. Microprose are awesome! A great fit for Neyyah’s nostalgia :) feel free to wishlist Neyyah on Steam!
@@AaronGwynaireGameDev I don't use Steam much because parent life leaves me both time and financially strapped, but I'll WL it because I'd definitely like to check it out even if I can't immediately on release!
@@ProdigiaGames that's all good! Thank you! :)
Awesome talk. Aaron’s words were really inspiring and also his project looks amazing. Best of luck!
Thanks so much! It was a joy chatting with Thomas :) he’s doing wonders for the game dev community! Glad you vibe Neyyah too! Feel free to see more / wishlist Neyyah on Steam!
@@AaronGwynaireGameDev Sure!
Now you have a publisher
after you release
really
make a one level vr test.
It would be a really great vr adventure
This was a pretty interesting and enjoyable podcast!
Glad you enjoyed it! :) hope it helps inspire you too! If you'd like to see more, wishlist Neyyah on Steam :)
Bought your game Pinstripe, downloaded your free2D kit. You're simply just awesome & really inspire me as an indie game dev....I'm mostly business support...but I'm learning C# & wrote my first code. CHEERS!!
Hey Thomas loved this Podcast, Would love if you do an interview with Trent Kanuega
This guy and Felipe should do some videos together on 3d modeling/rendering
Felipe’s work looks great!
looks good amazing
Thank you! Feel free to see more / wishlist Neyyah over on Steam :)
While UE5 is an absolute contender for the looks. I really appreciate these old games if well done. The photorealistic slideshow style gets really personal and feels real in an almost weird way.
Yeah, the one real time engine that COULD sway me lol. But I do love the cinematic feel of creating a game in the same style as Myst / Riven :)
Interesting interview! In General the whole series was informative so far.
First time I hear that publisher are hungry for content currently, had expected the opposite actually. Considering how much new games constantly coming out. What’s do you think is the reason for it COVID production delays? Or something totally else?
Most people I know say I’m way to late for it.
I think its a couple things. Companies are now realizing that strong Niches can be very profitable. most successful indie games at the moment Hit these Niche communities with games that they want so it generates great reviews and good money.
I also think that most of these companies want to get Bought by bigger companies right now and the best way to get that is to make critical successes. They don't need to make tooons of money right now but if they see you have a bunch of well made and Highly praised games then they can always market them later or do a sequel that will make more money
@@suitNtie22 that makes totally sense, didn’t consider the resend condensation thats happing would actually affect indies too. But yeah that was kinda an oversight from me.
I loved Myst and riven. And I agree that their real time render versions lost a bit of the soul of the game. Definitely gonna keep an eye on this game, very nostalgic!
Riven is a big influence :) if you enjoyed Riven's style, im sure youll find something in Neyyah :)
Hey, I was wondering if your still working on Father? Idk if i.missed anything like an announcement but I would love yo know how thats going
can you intervieuw dani. bc he puts lots of hours in a day in game development i really wanna hear his story
what about cringing at my current self...
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