Gérard Grisey - Dérives (Audio + Full Score)

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  • Gérard Grisey - Dérives, for two orchestras (1974)
    Orchestre National De France
    Conductor - Jacques Mercier
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  • @oscargill423
    @oscargill423 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm so happy that someone has incorporated an orchestra tuning into a piece's opening. I've been wondering if it was a thing for ages.

  • @mechaalex
    @mechaalex ปีที่แล้ว +5

    God, that sound world at around 18 minutes 🥲

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    sodelicious.......

  • @feinstruktur
    @feinstruktur ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So beautiful!

  • @arielorthmann4061
    @arielorthmann4061 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i read « des rives » (french for sides)

  • @ThePianoExperience
    @ThePianoExperience ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i read « dérivé » (french for derivative)

  • @sabaneyev
    @sabaneyev ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i read « dévier » (french for deviate)

  • @Quim141
    @Quim141 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    5:20!!!

  • @anngrogan6343
    @anngrogan6343 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thirty minutes of an orchestra tuning up?

    • @RyanPower
      @RyanPower  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually, the 'tuning' bit stops after around a minute.

  • @tjaruspex2116
    @tjaruspex2116 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not possible to rise to the level of Beethoven or Mozart, so one descends into nonsense. Modern art!

    • @scriabinismydog2439
      @scriabinismydog2439 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      L take

    • @RyanPower
      @RyanPower  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol what does this comment even mean?

    • @mrtchaikovsky
      @mrtchaikovsky ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@RyanPower Some people genuinely believe that music peaked centuries ago and everything that came after is unnecessary. I recently saw someone claim that Kapustin's piano concertos are useless because Gershwin had already written the ultimate "jazz piano concerto".
      De gustibus etc., but I cannot understand for the life of me why these people always spout their opinions with such vitriol, often accusing lovers of modern music of being posers who only pretend to like it in order to appear cultured.
      Then you have the kind of "experts" like John Borstlap or Jaspernatchez, who use their own, narrow definitions of what constitutes "real music", dismissing everything that doesn't fit their limited view while confusing their own bias with objective fact. You also have the ultra reactionary I'm-mentally-stuck-in-the-19th-century brigade, who thinks modern music contributes to the downfall of Western civilsation or whatever, but that's a whole other can of worms.
      I like to believe that everyone can enjoy this kind of music, provided he approaches it with an open mind and willing ears, but maybe Babbitt was right and this music is not for everyone after all.
      Who knows? Who cares? I certainly don't invade Haydn comment sections and tell people that they should stop listening to this "boring drivel" and listen to some "real music" by Boulez instead, yet you'll frequently find the inverse kind of comment under videos of works written in more recent times, as evidenced by the comment above and the almost obligatory carnage under most Schönberg videos.

    • @RyanPower
      @RyanPower  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mrtchaikovsky Very well said, it always saddens me when people remain so narrow minded on these topics, but honestly it's easier to just accept that not everybody will have the same tastes, and some still think it's acceptable to spread hate about the music that is enjoyed by others.

    • @thomaslaubli1886
      @thomaslaubli1886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your comment is nonsense, because you are only expressing that you are not able to comprehend the play with the natural tone row in this piece. You are exposing your lack of a musical ability.