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Idk how many hours you got on Old-school .. but these Mfer can't keep the servers up as it is .. now put an extra work load on top of that?? No fucking way, good idea but jagex is a trash they don't care about QOL they care about next quarters profits
My immediate thought would be using OSRS for D&D servers. Big map, already on a grid system for those who care about combat movement, plenty of monster models, could have one DM in creative mode controlling the stats/actions of everything while having players type out what their character is trying to say or do.
great vid, I 100% agree & have been daydreaming about Jagex doing this for a while. I think they could also borrow Roblox's model and do revenue sharing of membership with official private server devs/hosts + provide a robust dev toolkit, effectively making a competitive market for the community to build content. "Official Private server RuneScape developer" could be a profitable side hustle or full time job. Obviously we've seen that there are lots of people with coding skills in and around the RS community, I think it would work very well.
I think there's a lot of flexibility and growth with the idea that can be explored. it's part of what makes it so exciting to me. thanks for the kind words ♥️
What you've described is how I've always wished runescape could be. I love normal runescape but being to use the engine to see player made creations and try out silly things has always been fascinating
Great points all around. I think I would be able to get my friends who don’t like the grind so much to play a private sever where we can go raid and boss together.
I think the biggest issue with this is the fact that it would splinter so heavily. Progress in one private server wouldn't carry to another, and so on. This would lead to people picking up and putting down servers largely based on XP rates if they were just trying them out, and would kill a lot of the consistent fun of the game. Ultimately I think it would move things more towards a "try a million things but drop them as soon as they get slightly difficult" style of play that I've trended towards with other games, which isn't something I'd encourage.
I kinda think thats a good thing tho because the best part of the private servers aren't that people play them a long time, but they experience something new that has potential to be added to the main game.
@@spatialreverberation9066 right, but Runescape is built to be a long-term game, as are most MMOs. If the primary goal is to create features that could go to the main game like a community creator type program, that's fine, but I don't think that would sustain itself money-wise like Idyl was talking about in the video.
Why not? Why not encourage how people want to play? All these nay sayers are just corpo cucks that want their video game “achievements” to mean something.
@@OzzyFang I know that's the case for a lot of people at this point, but this doesn't exactly extend the enjoyment for those that haven't been playing the game for 10 years straight
Even just releasing some basic dev tools to players would blow up in such an amazing way, look at how the community ran with blender when they could get ahold of the RS assets, being able to make your own could make the playerbases ideas really flesh out and come to life. I know for sure I'd spend toooons of time in a map editor if they ever released one since its something I have always been super interested in actual sandbox games
God, being able to mod the game without needing to setup a crufty RL plugin really would be fantastic. I just can't imagine Jagex being able to keep up the support for this kinda infrastructure, they already struggle with server instability and that's on their mainline systems. I don't think you're asking too much though, Jagex would just need to actually step up and expand their dev/ops/infrastructure teams. I think they'd struggle with that though, from what I've seen on Glassdoor they don't exactly pay great for Cambridge wages at a long standing tech company. That's why they've got such runescape dedicated developers, you'd have to be dedicated in order to take the salary. I also feel like Jagex likes having obscurity of their code, no doubt they've got a stack of game breaking bugs and security flaws they're aware of but hope no one discovers. I think that's why they punish people like Rendi so severely. I'd give you the title of Private Server Head Lead Senior Project Architect Technical Lead if it were up to me!
I feel like Jagex could run a challenge with say 10 unique content creators voted on by the community, each given their own world/server to develop their own concept in a set amount of time. Then release those worlds to the player base and everyone could try out what they think sounds the coolest/most enjoyable/support whichever content creators creation they’re the biggest fan of. Sounds like it would be a good way to get their feet wet with the idea, give a bunch of creators and aspiring creators the chance to make new innovative content, and just be a great experience all around
I already heard this on the SaeBae cast but I'll listen to it again totally because of my own will and thoughts and I wasn't forced to watch this or comment this at all. pls help he has my kids
for content, they are really cool. For me as a player, the worst part about private servers was that it ruined the value of what happened in the main game. We went to PS due to EOC changes. I don't think I'd be going to PS when Jagex has finally made the game the most fun (for me) i've had playing it since 2008 in the past year. Working on the current games core issues would be where i'd like them to focus.
Loving this idea but i do see the potential issues. Though the short lived pre config servers would be a great start. Sell the idea as private worlds where character stats dont move between. Jagex could even consider bringing in approved modders to start creating preconfig worlds for free which i bet modders would love and would create an initial low cost moneymaker for jagex and also almost pre vet potential hires for this new team
YES!!! PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!!! 🙏 even if the servers are expensive monthly, people will buy them! And they will make so much more money. Not to mention, it would destroy any private servers that weren't a dedicated Jagex server.
my favourite part of leagues is day one laggy servers. game going offline and rollbacks. im not sure if im having a fever dream but i remember doing a survey for jagex about a year ago and they asked if people were interested in 'community controlled' servers where people could create bosses or quests for other players to try out. personally i think it would be amazing if jagex could bundle dev kits/map editors for people to make unique things and maybe jagex could buy community voted concepts from them.
@@local_authority I never understood where the myth of jagex devs being underpaid comes from. From job listings I’ve seen they make about 10-12k more than the average uk salery. I would imagine if the pay was that bad they wouldn’t have many employees…
Playing RSPS back in the day and even running one for over 3 years, it was a blast! its brings new life to a world we all know. I've seen a ton of wild things done back in the day and it was a super fun time. I made custom quests and items for mine back in the day and it let me be creative in my own way in a world I loved. but it never did stand up to playing the OG like you said. so I feel like it could do well and make jagex think more outside the box with their new content ideas. heck some people that mod games have been hired by dev teams so it could also be a way to find new talent for the main game too!
I remember seeing on an official RuneScape questionnaire awhile back a couple questions asking if there was interest in private servers - and if so, what sort of features they should have (i.e. custom quests). That tells me this is something Jagex has been seriously considering for a while so perhaps the results of that questionnaire will give them insight on what people think of it. I think it would be pretty awesome were it to come to pass.
I like the idea. I've always said I wanted a new runescape world but still within legitimate rs, like new towns, all new exploration, different spells, runes, etc. An almost completely unexperienced journey with that quirky vibe. ScapeRune? Something you can't wiki. I'd buy a server forsure
Yes this! I made an official forum post about this before Reddit became the defacto place to make game suggestions. Ended up getting a ban from the forums and 48 hour ingame mute for "Advertising Private Servers"
i feel like private servers would either not be used as much as expected or would just kill the main games population. A lot of what makes osrs so hard to put down is the hard to reach goals and if you can just go to a private server to get the thing youd have to work hundreds of hours for in the main server. The only way i see it working is only if a selected group of content creators would be able to use the servers to host events for their communities, not killing the main game and helping creators
@@Sqhetti while private servers do exist they aren’t officially endorsed by jagex and have a pretty bad reputation overall meaning a lot of people would rather not bother with them or just dont know they exist. if jagex started making their own private servers it would only increase the people in unofficial ones since you dont have to pay extra for them and decrease the amount of people in the main game slowly killing it
OSRS is a sandbox mmo. What you are suggesting is something ive actually thought about in the past and I think it's an amazing idea. However i fear its something that's very niche and not as popular as we would like to believe.
imo i would totally rent a private server just for myself. id love to tweak configs and play around in an osrs sandbox of my preference and to be able to practice different mechanics and bosses and whatever i want. i partly think it could affect league participation but when i really think about it, leagues have main game benefit. you use your main game account to do some gimmick game mode to gain points to buy unique items to sell in the main game and make a bunch of gp. the private servers wouldnt do that, so honestly i dont think they would affect league participation as much as we might think. im in 100% agreement and support of osrs private servers. i would love to see what the content creators could do with something like that! great idea idyl.
That'S a fantastic idea. Empower players to create own creative ideas and they will. OSRS has a really capable and dedicated playerbase art their hand, they really should make more use of that.
I'd like a vanilla osrs server straight from 2007. If jagex ran classic for like 10 extra years with no one playing it, I'm sure they can pull off a vanilla version. Also splitting the player base is a weird argument since there's like 50 ironmen modes... We have been split so many times.
Saw someone mentioned D&D private servers, i wasn't aboard for private servers but after seeing that comment, it needs to happen! I can't get into D&D (except Baldurs Gate or icewind) but i feel it would fit so well with OSRS' graphics and game mechanics! And i would probably spend my sundays on a little bit of OSRS D&D.
I got my start programming starting a Revision 525 private server (PvP weapons and armor update), it was an amazing way to learn a skill that grew into a great carrier. Would be really cool to see and something like this. During this last years player poll they asked some questions about private servers, so it is something they have thought about. The tournament world was a great version of a basic "spawn pvp server" and I think shows their willingness to work on something like it. However I see server costs, their locations, and maintenance being a large issue. Something Something beefaroni hotdog
$120 annual developer membership. Devs get map tools and an API. Severs can be deployed by anyone at $60 a month. Marketplace for developer made assets to be imported into rented servers. Only active members can join private servers.
I've always supported this idea! That said, I don't think people understand the massive technical challenges to make something like this happen on Jagex's end. A map editor, rapidly configurable servers, custom game rules, and an easy UI interface for server control take so much development time. I think we would have to convince Jagex that it's worth their time and money. Think how long it took them to make Leagues. It would be that dev time times two just to get the system up and running, and probably more to add enough custom features to make it awesome. Server hosting alone is a very challenging process. I'd expect bigger downtimes or much higher cost than regular membership for this to be feasible. Just some thoughts to ponder over. I imagine a lot would be sacrificed in the main game to allow the team to work on private servers (and I'd honestly be fine with that).
One thing Jagex NEEDS to look into is Path of Exile Custom League mechanics so they don't fuck it up the same way. Sidenote: this is more bitching about Path of Exile's shit rather than anything Runescape could actually take from their Leagues. One of the ways GGG fucks Custom Leagues up the most imo is balancing custom Leagues around the idea that all Characters made and items found will eventually make their way back into the Standard League(think if OSRS Leagues shit your league character out into the base game), which a) no one gives a shit about Standard league, and b) means you can only make custom leagues with rarer drop rates and harder enemies. Why not let me make stupid ass leagues where everything is broken as shit, but when I stop paying for it I lose access to it?
The cool concept about this is that it would force Jagex to build proper support for what they've struggled with recently, namely Beta worlds; and also for test-runs on new large pieces of content. Forestry could be implemented on one of these test worlds, in the same way that if a community member created forestry. Sailing could be implemented. Ruinous prayers. Any of the huge ideas that Reddit has, could be put across; and if the internal tooling of Jagex gets used, then in theory, with only smaller tweaks, the community ideas could get polled and placed into the main game
Me as a child had this in mind when construction was introduced to the game in 2006.. creating your own kingdom with castles and your own rules would have been amazing
Cool ideas and well-made video, sir. I forget who it was but one of the mods was asked about his vision for the future of OSRS and he said he could see it going toward something like this with community-edited private server sandboxes.
I've waned these for years. I have friends that I'd love to have try the game but I think the game is so archaic feeling to newbies that I can't imagine asking someone that's never played it before to try it in 2023. It'd be fun to be able to tailor an experience to what my friends and I enjoy
I would definitely play something like this for fun, and the amount of content that would come from that would be insane. Content on youtube/twitch would be brought to an entire new level. Imagine the amount of people who have played minecraft specifically for a group meetup/game/content.
Been playing on and off Runescape since ~2004, and have played many private servers. Moparscape, Blazescape, Frugooscape to name some of the early classics, with many more over the years. I always played them over the main game because, I wasn't good at the game. I kept up with updates like the removal of free trade and wilderness, EoC, and was there for the release of OSRS. Still, playing a new RSPS once a year for a couple months or so. I didn't want to invest all the hours to get high levels and good gear in the official game. However, over the last few years, I have been playing solely on the main game for a month or two at a time. I've accomplished so many things I hadn't before, and after playing for 15 years, finally got my first actual 99, fire cape, and more. Such a great feeling, and I'm slowly getting better and better over time. While this idea seems great, and I don't disagree with most of it. I can't help but feel like if it were to actually happen, there would be a couple private servers that were genuinely great in terms of it's community and content. So much so that large numbers of players would be on them at any given time. This already happens with really big private servers. And I feel like if Jagex gives people the actual right to assets and resources like this, they'll definitely be better than the private servers we have right now. Which means more players flocking to those servers, and less on the main game. While it would be more money in Jagex's coin pouch, it'd be less of a whole community on the actual game. Idk though lol
I think with more development the idea could work and actually increase user engagement rather than fragmenting. I think having them as a permanent option is the biggest driver of splitting the player base, so they would need to keep any server as temporary. I think too many servers would contribute to that problems as well. If it was limited time, community driven, and frequent (new one monthly?) you could make some real progress and keep the community engaged without splintering
i think this could be cool. runescape is such a good canvas for creativity as shown by everyones snowflake ironman accounts. the modding scene would be so immense. probably will never happen but i would definitely be on board. and also it would be cool for you and a friend to just go around minecraft style and explore a world just the two of you
this is so cool! gr-great idea idyll! i love you! nah this idea is pretty sick but ONE thing makes me disagree with it at this point you mentioned hosting gielinor games on private servers and i would definitely not want that to happen as some of my favorite moments from this previous season were the shit where the contestants ran into randos, like j1mmy and settled panhandling this could obviously be solved by the actual gielinor games being hosted on the main servers, or even specific challenges, but y'know this is the internet, this one personal gripe shoots your whole idea down
A MMORPG called boundless had a really huge startup on its launch and petered out as devs were unable to maintain funds to develop more into it. They ended up releasing private servers and i think the income from them was enough to keep the whole game on life support for a few years until a new studio caught interest and decided to start investing into it again. It came close to death for many reasons and private servers were almost one of them by fracturing an already fractured player base, but the remaining dedicated players were willing enough to pay to keep it alive, so i think it got a bit lucky. Take from this what you will, but i think private servers aren't a great idea in general because of player base splitting and that's all that needs to be said.
I have thought about this for a few years now, around the time the first Geilinor Games came out. I think it would be a great idea and would give content creators so much more room to work and be creative--its amazing what they are able to do already given the limitations, but I think it could be taken several steps further :)
I've wanted this for years. I haven't played much at all since the last League ended. Leagues took so much of the grind out of the game and made it fun for me again. As much as I'd love to pour hundreds of hours into the main game, I just can't anymore. I'd love to be able to play a few hours a night and feel like I'm making some progress again without starting another new account. I'd like to enjoy some end game stuff that has been off limits to me for years
This kind of idea is similar to Path of Exile has done with Private Leagues. They can have their own modifiers to the base game and provide a smaller community to interact with. I really like it! I will say, altering drops rates, skipping levels, etc might make things a bit tricky for the base game though since players will have an easier time getting ideal setups to practice new PvM content which might make balancing/creating new PvM content a trickier endeavor (it will be something Jagex will have to account for when tuning difficulty).
The biggest thing i could see would be for things like new areas and skills where instead of a super vague devlog jagex could just go "Inspired by X area or X skill on this player's private server" (with permission from the server owner ofc). it would allow for tests of new items, new areas, new skill, and more without the risk of damaging the main game. If certain things pop up across multiple servers thats probably a prime target for jagex to add to the main game
I feel like community made quests and minigames/challenges would be better suited for the main game. Imagine a system where accounts from the main game are able to do community made challenges that are even harder than the inferno, and their name gets posted on a high-score board along with their time or score. This adds even more motivation to play the main game, because you need high level stats and good gear to even attempt these challenges, and it would be very rewarding to see your name on the leaderboard. There could also be gauntlet type challenges where you don't need stats or items to play, and it would be completely skill based. This system could also be used to make custom minigames that are actually fun and people would actually play. Also being able to properly experience quests without spamming the space bar just to get the quest reward. Also imagine player/clan owned islands. An POH the size of an entire island that you can design using assets pre-made by jagex. This would let players create new islands with their own terrain, buildings, npcs, monsers, resources, etc. It could be designed by jagex to prevent players from creating an overpowered island (like putting a bank next to 100 rune ore). This would let players explore,skill,train in fresh new areas without it being overpowered.
I would love to see private servers, even if it's just to see the content that comes out of it. I also think Jagex could delay content to private servers if they were ever worried about competition from their private servers. Hold the new skill back 3-6 months, hold the raid back 2 months, the new boss a month. Make it so updates are only published quarterly. I think it would be a best of both worlds scenario where people have plenty of time to experience the content in the dev intended way, and then go to a private server where the new raid is 3x bigger and has every boss from the game in it. And to everyone that's saying that it would reduce the population of the main game, or that the ideas would be short lived, or that people would only want to play on servers with high xp rates: who cares? You're not the target audience, and the people that are probably weren't playing vanilla very much to begin with, and if they are, I don't see why the availability of a private server would cause them to switch permanently. Like Idyl mentioned, the achievements playing the game don't really mean anything outside of the game, getting a 99 on a 10xp world isn't as rewarding as it is in vanilla, and again, the people that want that probably aren't playing now to begin with.
Just because I played Runescape since ~2006 and making my own fun/way to play I can still enjoy Escape from Tarkov even if I'm playing it for 5 years now. Thanks to Runescape I've learned English (you might notice, it's not perfect, but hey ... I spent 2 months on London and got along just fine). Thank to Runescape I've met so many people which some become my friends I talk with TO THIS DAY... we've met in this game in 2007-2008 and still text each other... we went from elementary school to adult life where some of us have children already, ONE HAS A KID THAT ALREADY PLAYS RUNESCAPE! So to here's one to Jagex, your game doesn't need to be saved, it will live forever, because once all of us who played it as kids, our kids will take our spots!
Plugin idea! OSRS solution for toolbelt could be a little extension for Barbarian training. "No tools? No problem! Use your FISTS!" With enough strength and barbaric determination you'll: dig holes for plants and graves for your enemies with your bare hands, rip trees off the ground just to flex, shatter rocks for ores, grab sharks by their throat. Make a plugin that replaces some boring tool actions with more barbaric ones. I have to be shouting Yyyyeeeaaarrghh the whole time.
Great concept! Really something neat to consider. Though, it may only work if these private servers were supplied to an exclusive few. Otherwise, public players easily being able to max their stats and progress for a few dollars, would absolutely devalue the time and effort required in the base game. This is why leagues are temporary, and are entirely wiped once the event is over. Definitely would be keen to see custom content and modding pushed to another level. But can only see it working, without harming the base game, by being restricted to some trusted content creators.
I think there's something about the maingame being considered the MAINgame that draws people in. When OSRS came out, the private server community disintegrated, even though you would think people would enjoy the high xp rates for free so much more. I really think the private servers would add much more value as testing grounds for new ideas than they would take away as entire new games
@@spatialreverberation9066 The reason the private server community disintegrated is that private servers are always incomplete versions of the game. You can feel the lack of quality when there's no quests, most of the main world isn't coded and there are no NPCs outside of crowded areas. Not to mention the money hungry owners.
@@spatialreverberation9066 Ooh, really great point considering private servers as testing grounds! Didn't think of it like that. You're absolutely right about it potentially bringing refined community content to the main game.
So one thing I see being a major issue is admins would start charging real money for advantages in the servers they host through private discord servers and it opens a can of worms of jagex having to police the whole shit storm.
My biggest concern is that with bending the rules, there's no reason to monitor the activity on them. This could and would lead to exploiting the game in unusual ways to develop new bugs.
Honestly you've got some great points here. I've never thought about having actual private servers in a sense like this, but I think it could be incredible. Especially for content creators. Like you said, the possibilities could be almost infinite! As a long time runescape player myself (mainly osrs but rs3 a bit too), I get that it could take some players away from the main game, which could be a scary thought for Jagex. But honestly, I've played osrs for YEARS straight now and still have so many goals I want to hit. So it would be great to get a break once in a while and have some fun on a server like this, but I don't think it could ever truly pull me away from the main game forever. I think this is an amazing idea if they were to pursue this and do it right.
I love this idea, and there was an MMO that actually did this to some degree. Wurm Online has seperate version of the game that you can host with your friends. It's basically just a seperate game with the original game engine and gameplay. Could be like the last resort eventually when the game is actually dying.
I think this is an interesting idea worth looking into. A safe way of testing it could be to start by just allowing some of the promenant content creators to use it for video and series concepts as a beta run to see if it would be worth rolling out large scale for the playerbase. I'm very tired and haven't thought this through very well, but I do believe this is a topic that at least warrants some dialogue. I'd like to hear what some jmods think on a Q&A.
I like the minecraft realms take. I thought releasing it as a single player game with customisable settings would be the play to attract people who don't want to/can't find the time to grind the main game. This realms take seems far more realistic. The main people it'd attract would be people who aren't actively subscribing/playing the main game I believe anyway so it just makes sense. Content creators could have a server for their communities (subs) to join and be just them. A big thing would be allowing people to play on these private servers and the main game too. They could afk skill on the main while bossing with mates at a higher drop rate on the private game etc. The limitless event ideas is cool. Even as someone who wouldn't play private over the main game, this seems fun to have.
They mentioned these in one of the more recent surveys and I think its a super good idea honestly. I think it can blow this game up like no one would expect. I bet in a few years we see them implement Minecraft Realm style servers that you can control
Yes... bring mods and plugins to the game that actually change how the game is played. Without ruining it for those who don't want them. This is genius! I'd totally join one or even try one for myself. TH-cam content creators could have their own servers (Player Owned Servers ?!!!) and create a map from scratch, with NPCs with unique dialogue, quests, bosses, skills. The possibilities if Runescape was a sandbox... Oh boy.
I've always wished there was a version of OSRS where every item had to be made by a player. As in, no rune drops from monsters, no buying from NPC shops, etc. I also hoped the GE wouldn't be added to OSRS even though I couldn't live without it. Also, DarkScape was amazing, and this could bring it back.
this would be an instant purchase for me, even just for myself, not to play with friends, thats just a bonus. The practice for inferno this would allow is amazing, the ability for people to learn new bosses or mechanics without risking your bank is amazing!
I have a bit of a counter-point to how it would make content creation better on TH-cam. It's a long comment, so the TLDR is: It'd be good for creators making shorter, one-off videos and hosting little events. But for creators who make long-form series, a lot of viewers may be split over wanting to watch "the real game." Private servers are great with stuff like EVscape's PVP tournaments, and would help out with various small events like that, or just when you want to do some silly stuff with your friends for one-off videos. But when Jagex did the 10x xp/drop rate server with content creators about two years ago, every one of their comment sections was "who wants to watch this private server crap?" Most creators only did one video and got bored. That truly screwed over Rargh and LinksOcarina, who planned and recorded a whole "Then We Fight" season on that world. The server made it easier for them to make videos much more quickly, but it was at the cost of viewer interest and audience engagement. That was the first time in their channel history that they cancelled a series, iirc, and was a huge setback at the time. One of the main appeals to osrs content creation is because it takes place on official servers, with creators having to navigate around real players, alongside the various interactions they have with players while doing their silly little snowflake challenges. Viewers love watching and being the cause of both detrimental interactions (getting PK'd in the wildy on an iron or being crashed somewhere), and beneficial ones (scouting implings/fallen stars, 99 parties, creators running into fans, and random players just running into future creators recording their first videos being impressed by their account build/restrictions). Need I also mention the unintentional comedy of Episode 9 of Gielinor Games season 3 with that rando Mila Azul69 accidentally crashing them?
My only problem with this particular idea is the same issue I have with any private server. Allowing people to go and play in a totally separate world, separated from the rest of the player base is only going to further dilute an already small player base. Don't get me wrong, the idea sounds fun but I have a sneaking suspicion it would be detrimental to the player base as a whole.
Ex-CEO Mark Gerhard once teased at the idea of bringing official player-owned servers and he really wanted it come to fruition. I think he knew it would just divide the community and make it more difficult to deal with bots, that's why it never implemented. My opinion, of course.
Jagex, hire this genius ASAP! 😂 Love the idea of turning OSRS into a sandbox haven, but can we also get a beach and some tropical drinks to complete the experience? 🏖🍹
i love runescape an started playing it when i was 7. now, i’m in my mid 20s and work 50hrs a week so i don’t have time to grind anymore. it kinda upsets me that i’ll forever be stuff in the mid game because i don’t have the hours to sit & grind skills an quest anymore. the idea of osrs with a slightly increased xp/rate already has me sold
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Idk how many hours you got on Old-school .. but these Mfer can't keep the servers up as it is .. now put an extra work load on top of that?? No fucking way, good idea but jagex is a trash they don't care about QOL they care about next quarters profits
I will click on that link once you launch a old scape private league/server. I thing I gotta make you work for it
lets goooooo 🦈
I'd be pumped for private servers so I can learn bosses without risking anything in the main game
Keep putting those timestamps in your videos and I'll never complain about a raid ad. Get the bag and I can skip if I want. Win win.
My immediate thought would be using OSRS for D&D servers. Big map, already on a grid system for those who care about combat movement, plenty of monster models, could have one DM in creative mode controlling the stats/actions of everything while having players type out what their character is trying to say or do.
oh my god you're a genius
Fuck yeah. Bring it back to its roots
Oh my god that's an idea
WHOS THAT DUDE THAT MAKES RL PLUGINS?!
THIS
Yo I've thought the exact same thing. The online platform my party uses seems very similar to osrs but with shitty 2d drawings instead.
great vid, I 100% agree & have been daydreaming about Jagex doing this for a while. I think they could also borrow Roblox's model and do revenue sharing of membership with official private server devs/hosts + provide a robust dev toolkit, effectively making a competitive market for the community to build content. "Official Private server RuneScape developer" could be a profitable side hustle or full time job. Obviously we've seen that there are lots of people with coding skills in and around the RS community, I think it would work very well.
I think there's a lot of flexibility and growth with the idea that can be explored. it's part of what makes it so exciting to me. thanks for the kind words ♥️
confirmed. SirPugger doesnt love Idyl.
Idyl really wants to be able to make a Prop Hunt server, and I'm here for that
this is a very good video essay
thanks do you make videos too?
Sorry but I can't stand seeing runescape in my raid shadow legends video
just like we couldn’t stand raid on runescape videos 😂
Raid shadow man will be back
Raid is trash, don’t compare please.
What you've described is how I've always wished runescape could be. I love normal runescape but being to use the engine to see player made creations and try out silly things has always been fascinating
Great points all around. I think I would be able to get my friends who don’t like the grind so much to play a private sever where we can go raid and boss together.
Player hosted leagues that are available year round would be so amazing
I've been looking for a private server that has any league since the first one, if we had year round leagues I'd be so happy
@@chris07081Check out Vulcan RS
I think the biggest issue with this is the fact that it would splinter so heavily. Progress in one private server wouldn't carry to another, and so on. This would lead to people picking up and putting down servers largely based on XP rates if they were just trying them out, and would kill a lot of the consistent fun of the game.
Ultimately I think it would move things more towards a "try a million things but drop them as soon as they get slightly difficult" style of play that I've trended towards with other games, which isn't something I'd encourage.
I kinda think thats a good thing tho because the best part of the private servers aren't that people play them a long time, but they experience something new that has potential to be added to the main game.
@@spatialreverberation9066 right, but Runescape is built to be a long-term game, as are most MMOs. If the primary goal is to create features that could go to the main game like a community creator type program, that's fine, but I don't think that would sustain itself money-wise like Idyl was talking about in the video.
This game isn't fun.
Why not? Why not encourage how people want to play? All these nay sayers are just corpo cucks that want their video game “achievements” to mean something.
@@OzzyFang I know that's the case for a lot of people at this point, but this doesn't exactly extend the enjoyment for those that haven't been playing the game for 10 years straight
If you could change skills and mechanics AND had a map editor, people could just up and make their own game entirely.
. . . And I'm all for it.
Even just releasing some basic dev tools to players would blow up in such an amazing way, look at how the community ran with blender when they could get ahold of the RS assets, being able to make your own could make the playerbases ideas really flesh out and come to life. I know for sure I'd spend toooons of time in a map editor if they ever released one since its something I have always been super interested in actual sandbox games
That 1 and done snowflake idea sounds awesome! Hope somebody makes a series out of it
I'mma risk a woosh moment here to say hey man I'm right here
@@speedydeep thank you
God, being able to mod the game without needing to setup a crufty RL plugin really would be fantastic. I just can't imagine Jagex being able to keep up the support for this kinda infrastructure, they already struggle with server instability and that's on their mainline systems.
I don't think you're asking too much though, Jagex would just need to actually step up and expand their dev/ops/infrastructure teams. I think they'd struggle with that though, from what I've seen on Glassdoor they don't exactly pay great for Cambridge wages at a long standing tech company. That's why they've got such runescape dedicated developers, you'd have to be dedicated in order to take the salary.
I also feel like Jagex likes having obscurity of their code, no doubt they've got a stack of game breaking bugs and security flaws they're aware of but hope no one discovers. I think that's why they punish people like Rendi so severely.
I'd give you the title of Private Server Head Lead Senior Project Architect Technical Lead if it were up to me!
I feel like Jagex could run a challenge with say 10 unique content creators voted on by the community, each given their own world/server to develop their own concept in a set amount of time. Then release those worlds to the player base and everyone could try out what they think sounds the coolest/most enjoyable/support whichever content creators creation they’re the biggest fan of.
Sounds like it would be a good way to get their feet wet with the idea, give a bunch of creators and aspiring creators the chance to make new innovative content, and just be a great experience all around
I already heard this on the SaeBae cast but I'll listen to it again totally because of my own will and thoughts and I wasn't forced to watch this or comment this at all.
pls help he has my kids
for content, they are really cool. For me as a player, the worst part about private servers was that it ruined the value of what happened in the main game. We went to PS due to EOC changes. I don't think I'd be going to PS when Jagex has finally made the game the most fun (for me) i've had playing it since 2008 in the past year. Working on the current games core issues would be where i'd like them to focus.
I'm not a content creator and unbiased. We need these. Pleae
Loving this idea but i do see the potential issues. Though the short lived pre config servers would be a great start. Sell the idea as private worlds where character stats dont move between.
Jagex could even consider bringing in approved modders to start creating preconfig worlds for free which i bet modders would love and would create an initial low cost moneymaker for jagex and also almost pre vet potential hires for this new team
ive always wanted to do custom quests in runescape somewhat like dnd and this would be awesome to have.
YES!!! PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!!! 🙏 even if the servers are expensive monthly, people will buy them! And they will make so much more money. Not to mention, it would destroy any private servers that weren't a dedicated Jagex server.
If they release this I'm making an EOC server.
my favourite part of leagues is day one laggy servers. game going offline and rollbacks. im not sure if im having a fever dream but i remember doing a survey for jagex about a year ago and they asked if people were interested in 'community controlled' servers where people could create bosses or quests for other players to try out. personally i think it would be amazing if jagex could bundle dev kits/map editors for people to make unique things and maybe jagex could buy community voted concepts from them.
Hahah 'buy' jagex barely even pays it's devs, strong doubt they'd pay for their own IP
@@local_authority I never understood where the myth of jagex devs being underpaid comes from. From job listings I’ve seen they make about 10-12k more than the average uk salery. I would imagine if the pay was that bad they wouldn’t have many employees…
Playing RSPS back in the day and even running one for over 3 years, it was a blast! its brings new life to a world we all know. I've seen a ton of wild things done back in the day and it was a super fun time. I made custom quests and items for mine back in the day and it let me be creative in my own way in a world I loved. but it never did stand up to playing the OG like you said. so I feel like it could do well and make jagex think more outside the box with their new content ideas. heck some people that mod games have been hired by dev teams so it could also be a way to find new talent for the main game too!
I remember seeing on an official RuneScape questionnaire awhile back a couple questions asking if there was interest in private servers - and if so, what sort of features they should have (i.e. custom quests). That tells me this is something Jagex has been seriously considering for a while so perhaps the results of that questionnaire will give them insight on what people think of it. I think it would be pretty awesome were it to come to pass.
I like the idea. I've always said I wanted a new runescape world but still within legitimate rs, like new towns, all new exploration, different spells, runes, etc. An almost completely unexperienced journey with that quirky vibe. ScapeRune? Something you can't wiki. I'd buy a server forsure
Yes this! I made an official forum post about this before Reddit became the defacto place to make game suggestions. Ended up getting a ban from the forums and 48 hour ingame mute for "Advertising Private Servers"
I love you Idyl
this is so cool great idea Idyl i love you
i feel like private servers would either not be used as much as expected or would just kill the main games population. A lot of what makes osrs so hard to put down is the hard to reach goals and if you can just go to a private server to get the thing youd have to work hundreds of hours for in the main server. The only way i see it working is only if a selected group of content creators would be able to use the servers to host events for their communities, not killing the main game and helping creators
This is stupid because private servers literally exist and a lot of them aren’t as crappy as the examples shown in this video
@@Sqhetti while private servers do exist they aren’t officially endorsed by jagex and have a pretty bad reputation overall meaning a lot of people would rather not bother with them or just dont know they exist. if jagex started making their own private servers it would only increase the people in unofficial ones since you dont have to pay extra for them and decrease the amount of people in the main game slowly killing it
OSRS is a sandbox mmo. What you are suggesting is something ive actually thought about in the past and I think it's an amazing idea. However i fear its something that's very niche and not as popular as we would like to believe.
imo i would totally rent a private server just for myself. id love to tweak configs and play around in an osrs sandbox of my preference and to be able to practice different mechanics and bosses and whatever i want. i partly think it could affect league participation but when i really think about it, leagues have main game benefit. you use your main game account to do some gimmick game mode to gain points to buy unique items to sell in the main game and make a bunch of gp. the private servers wouldnt do that, so honestly i dont think they would affect league participation as much as we might think. im in 100% agreement and support of osrs private servers. i would love to see what the content creators could do with something like that! great idea idyl.
That'S a fantastic idea. Empower players to create own creative ideas and they will. OSRS has a really capable and dedicated playerbase art their hand, they really should make more use of that.
The content that this would provide and the publicity that content would bring OSRS would be amazing
Idyl comin in with the fire takes yet again., Great Video!
I'd like a vanilla osrs server straight from 2007. If jagex ran classic for like 10 extra years with no one playing it, I'm sure they can pull off a vanilla version. Also splitting the player base is a weird argument since there's like 50 ironmen modes... We have been split so many times.
Love this idea and you Idyl. There were some questions on the annual survey about private servers which gave me hope
Saw someone mentioned D&D private servers, i wasn't aboard for private servers but after seeing that comment, it needs to happen! I can't get into D&D (except Baldurs Gate or icewind) but i feel it would fit so well with OSRS' graphics and game mechanics! And i would probably spend my sundays on a little bit of OSRS D&D.
I got my start programming starting a Revision 525 private server (PvP weapons and armor update), it was an amazing way to learn a skill that grew into a great carrier. Would be really cool to see and something like this. During this last years player poll they asked some questions about private servers, so it is something they have thought about. The tournament world was a great version of a basic "spawn pvp server" and I think shows their willingness to work on something like it. However I see server costs, their locations, and maintenance being a large issue. Something Something beefaroni hotdog
$120 annual developer membership. Devs get map tools and an API. Severs can be deployed by anyone at $60 a month. Marketplace for developer made assets to be imported into rented servers. Only active members can join private servers.
This is so cool. Gr-great idea Idyl. I love you.
I've always supported this idea! That said, I don't think people understand the massive technical challenges to make something like this happen on Jagex's end. A map editor, rapidly configurable servers, custom game rules, and an easy UI interface for server control take so much development time. I think we would have to convince Jagex that it's worth their time and money.
Think how long it took them to make Leagues. It would be that dev time times two just to get the system up and running, and probably more to add enough custom features to make it awesome. Server hosting alone is a very challenging process. I'd expect bigger downtimes or much higher cost than regular membership for this to be feasible.
Just some thoughts to ponder over. I imagine a lot would be sacrificed in the main game to allow the team to work on private servers (and I'd honestly be fine with that).
One thing Jagex NEEDS to look into is Path of Exile Custom League mechanics so they don't fuck it up the same way.
Sidenote: this is more bitching about Path of Exile's shit rather than anything Runescape could actually take from their Leagues.
One of the ways GGG fucks Custom Leagues up the most imo is balancing custom Leagues around the idea that all Characters made and items found will eventually make their way back into the Standard League(think if OSRS Leagues shit your league character out into the base game), which a) no one gives a shit about Standard league, and b) means you can only make custom leagues with rarer drop rates and harder enemies. Why not let me make stupid ass leagues where everything is broken as shit, but when I stop paying for it I lose access to it?
The cool concept about this is that it would force Jagex to build proper support for what they've struggled with recently, namely Beta worlds; and also for test-runs on new large pieces of content.
Forestry could be implemented on one of these test worlds, in the same way that if a community member created forestry.
Sailing could be implemented.
Ruinous prayers.
Any of the huge ideas that Reddit has, could be put across; and if the internal tooling of Jagex gets used, then in theory, with only smaller tweaks, the community ideas could get polled and placed into the main game
"That doesn't fit my narrative so I'm ignoring it" LMAO
The dream crossover
Me as a child had this in mind when construction was introduced to the game in 2006.. creating your own kingdom with castles and your own rules would have been amazing
Cool ideas and well-made video, sir.
I forget who it was but one of the mods was asked about his vision for the future of OSRS and he said he could see it going toward something like this with community-edited private server sandboxes.
I've waned these for years. I have friends that I'd love to have try the game but I think the game is so archaic feeling to newbies that I can't imagine asking someone that's never played it before to try it in 2023. It'd be fun to be able to tailor an experience to what my friends and I enjoy
I would definitely play something like this for fun, and the amount of content that would come from that would be insane. Content on youtube/twitch would be brought to an entire new level. Imagine the amount of people who have played minecraft specifically for a group meetup/game/content.
Been playing on and off Runescape since ~2004, and have played many private servers. Moparscape, Blazescape, Frugooscape to name some of the early classics, with many more over the years. I always played them over the main game because, I wasn't good at the game. I kept up with updates like the removal of free trade and wilderness, EoC, and was there for the release of OSRS. Still, playing a new RSPS once a year for a couple months or so. I didn't want to invest all the hours to get high levels and good gear in the official game. However, over the last few years, I have been playing solely on the main game for a month or two at a time. I've accomplished so many things I hadn't before, and after playing for 15 years, finally got my first actual 99, fire cape, and more. Such a great feeling, and I'm slowly getting better and better over time.
While this idea seems great, and I don't disagree with most of it. I can't help but feel like if it were to actually happen, there would be a couple private servers that were genuinely great in terms of it's community and content. So much so that large numbers of players would be on them at any given time. This already happens with really big private servers. And I feel like if Jagex gives people the actual right to assets and resources like this, they'll definitely be better than the private servers we have right now. Which means more players flocking to those servers, and less on the main game. While it would be more money in Jagex's coin pouch, it'd be less of a whole community on the actual game. Idk though lol
like your confidence and your format! hope you do more of these
This is so cool! Great idea Idyl! You make a great friend!
I think with more development the idea could work and actually increase user engagement rather than fragmenting. I think having them as a permanent option is the biggest driver of splitting the player base, so they would need to keep any server as temporary. I think too many servers would contribute to that problems as well. If it was limited time, community driven, and frequent (new one monthly?) you could make some real progress and keep the community engaged without splintering
This 100%, personally I hate grinds and I quit OSRS a while ago so I would love a steam workshop type ecosystem like GMod
i think this could be cool. runescape is such a good canvas for creativity as shown by everyones snowflake ironman accounts. the modding scene would be so immense. probably will never happen but i would definitely be on board. and also it would be cool for you and a friend to just go around minecraft style and explore a world just the two of you
We all love you sir!
this is so cool!
gr-great idea idyll!
i love you!
nah this idea is pretty sick but ONE thing makes me disagree with it at this point
you mentioned hosting gielinor games on private servers and i would definitely not want that to happen as some of my favorite moments from this previous season were the shit where the contestants ran into randos, like j1mmy and settled panhandling
this could obviously be solved by the actual gielinor games being hosted on the main servers, or even specific challenges, but y'know
this is the internet, this one personal gripe shoots your whole idea down
A MMORPG called boundless had a really huge startup on its launch and petered out as devs were unable to maintain funds to develop more into it. They ended up releasing private servers and i think the income from them was enough to keep the whole game on life support for a few years until a new studio caught interest and decided to start investing into it again.
It came close to death for many reasons and private servers were almost one of them by fracturing an already fractured player base, but the remaining dedicated players were willing enough to pay to keep it alive, so i think it got a bit lucky.
Take from this what you will, but i think private servers aren't a great idea in general because of player base splitting and that's all that needs to be said.
I have thought about this for a few years now, around the time the first Geilinor Games came out. I think it would be a great idea and would give content creators so much more room to work and be creative--its amazing what they are able to do already given the limitations, but I think it could be taken several steps further :)
I've wanted this for years. I haven't played much at all since the last League ended. Leagues took so much of the grind out of the game and made it fun for me again. As much as I'd love to pour hundreds of hours into the main game, I just can't anymore. I'd love to be able to play a few hours a night and feel like I'm making some progress again without starting another new account. I'd like to enjoy some end game stuff that has been off limits to me for years
This kind of idea is similar to Path of Exile has done with Private Leagues. They can have their own modifiers to the base game and provide a smaller community to interact with. I really like it! I will say, altering drops rates, skipping levels, etc might make things a bit tricky for the base game though since players will have an easier time getting ideal setups to practice new PvM content which might make balancing/creating new PvM content a trickier endeavor (it will be something Jagex will have to account for when tuning difficulty).
My favourite part of this video is the fact that your jumper is also green screened, and I'm only at 1:11 😂
Hot take… undies is not the best mod ever but I still love him so much
The biggest thing i could see would be for things like new areas and skills where instead of a super vague devlog jagex could just go "Inspired by X area or X skill on this player's private server" (with permission from the server owner ofc). it would allow for tests of new items, new areas, new skill, and more without the risk of damaging the main game. If certain things pop up across multiple servers thats probably a prime target for jagex to add to the main game
I feel like community made quests and minigames/challenges would be better suited for the main game. Imagine a system where accounts from the main game are able to do community made challenges that are even harder than the inferno, and their name gets posted on a high-score board along with their time or score. This adds even more motivation to play the main game, because you need high level stats and good gear to even attempt these challenges, and it would be very rewarding to see your name on the leaderboard. There could also be gauntlet type challenges where you don't need stats or items to play, and it would be completely skill based. This system could also be used to make custom minigames that are actually fun and people would actually play. Also being able to properly experience quests without spamming the space bar just to get the quest reward.
Also imagine player/clan owned islands. An POH the size of an entire island that you can design using assets pre-made by jagex. This would let players create new islands with their own terrain, buildings, npcs, monsers, resources, etc. It could be designed by jagex to prevent players from creating an overpowered island (like putting a bank next to 100 rune ore). This would let players explore,skill,train in fresh new areas without it being overpowered.
I would love to see private servers, even if it's just to see the content that comes out of it.
I also think Jagex could delay content to private servers if they were ever worried about competition from their private servers. Hold the new skill back 3-6 months, hold the raid back 2 months, the new boss a month. Make it so updates are only published quarterly.
I think it would be a best of both worlds scenario where people have plenty of time to experience the content in the dev intended way, and then go to a private server where the new raid is 3x bigger and has every boss from the game in it.
And to everyone that's saying that it would reduce the population of the main game, or that the ideas would be short lived, or that people would only want to play on servers with high xp rates: who cares? You're not the target audience, and the people that are probably weren't playing vanilla very much to begin with, and if they are, I don't see why the availability of a private server would cause them to switch permanently. Like Idyl mentioned, the achievements playing the game don't really mean anything outside of the game, getting a 99 on a 10xp world isn't as rewarding as it is in vanilla, and again, the people that want that probably aren't playing now to begin with.
Just because I played Runescape since ~2006 and making my own fun/way to play I can still enjoy Escape from Tarkov even if I'm playing it for 5 years now.
Thanks to Runescape I've learned English (you might notice, it's not perfect, but hey ... I spent 2 months on London and got along just fine).
Thank to Runescape I've met so many people which some become my friends I talk with TO THIS DAY... we've met in this game in 2007-2008 and still text each other... we went from elementary school to adult life where some of us have children already, ONE HAS A KID THAT ALREADY PLAYS RUNESCAPE!
So to here's one to Jagex, your game doesn't need to be saved, it will live forever, because once all of us who played it as kids, our kids will take our spots!
This is so cool. Great idea Idyl! I love you.
Plugin idea!
OSRS solution for toolbelt could be a little extension for Barbarian training. "No tools? No problem! Use your FISTS!" With enough strength and barbaric determination you'll: dig holes for plants and graves for your enemies with your bare hands, rip trees off the ground just to flex, shatter rocks for ores, grab sharks by their throat.
Make a plugin that replaces some boring tool actions with more barbaric ones. I have to be shouting Yyyyeeeaaarrghh the whole time.
Great concept! Really something neat to consider.
Though, it may only work if these private servers were supplied to an exclusive few. Otherwise, public players easily being able to max their stats and progress for a few dollars, would absolutely devalue the time and effort required in the base game. This is why leagues are temporary, and are entirely wiped once the event is over.
Definitely would be keen to see custom content and modding pushed to another level. But can only see it working, without harming the base game, by being restricted to some trusted content creators.
I think there's something about the maingame being considered the MAINgame that draws people in. When OSRS came out, the private server community disintegrated, even though you would think people would enjoy the high xp rates for free so much more. I really think the private servers would add much more value as testing grounds for new ideas than they would take away as entire new games
@@spatialreverberation9066 The reason the private server community disintegrated is that private servers are always incomplete versions of the game. You can feel the lack of quality when there's no quests, most of the main world isn't coded and there are no NPCs outside of crowded areas.
Not to mention the money hungry owners.
@@spatialreverberation9066 Ooh, really great point considering private servers as testing grounds! Didn't think of it like that.
You're absolutely right about it potentially bringing refined community content to the main game.
So one thing I see being a major issue is admins would start charging real money for advantages in the servers they host through private discord servers and it opens a can of worms of jagex having to police the whole shit storm.
My biggest concern is that with bending the rules, there's no reason to monitor the activity on them. This could and would lead to exploiting the game in unusual ways to develop new bugs.
Honestly you've got some great points here. I've never thought about having actual private servers in a sense like this, but I think it could be incredible. Especially for content creators. Like you said, the possibilities could be almost infinite! As a long time runescape player myself (mainly osrs but rs3 a bit too), I get that it could take some players away from the main game, which could be a scary thought for Jagex. But honestly, I've played osrs for YEARS straight now and still have so many goals I want to hit. So it would be great to get a break once in a while and have some fun on a server like this, but I don't think it could ever truly pull me away from the main game forever. I think this is an amazing idea if they were to pursue this and do it right.
I love this idea, and there was an MMO that actually did this to some degree. Wurm Online has seperate version of the game that you can host with your friends. It's basically just a seperate game with the original game engine and gameplay. Could be like the last resort eventually when the game is actually dying.
I think this is an interesting idea worth looking into. A safe way of testing it could be to start by just allowing some of the promenant content creators to use it for video and series concepts as a beta run to see if it would be worth rolling out large scale for the playerbase.
I'm very tired and haven't thought this through very well, but I do believe this is a topic that at least warrants some dialogue. I'd like to hear what some jmods think on a Q&A.
I like the minecraft realms take. I thought releasing it as a single player game with customisable settings would be the play to attract people who don't want to/can't find the time to grind the main game. This realms take seems far more realistic.
The main people it'd attract would be people who aren't actively subscribing/playing the main game I believe anyway so it just makes sense.
Content creators could have a server for their communities (subs) to join and be just them.
A big thing would be allowing people to play on these private servers and the main game too. They could afk skill on the main while bossing with mates at a higher drop rate on the private game etc.
The limitless event ideas is cool.
Even as someone who wouldn't play private over the main game, this seems fun to have.
They mentioned these in one of the more recent surveys and I think its a super good idea honestly. I think it can blow this game up like no one would expect. I bet in a few years we see them implement Minecraft Realm style servers that you can control
Yes... bring mods and plugins to the game that actually change how the game is played. Without ruining it for those who don't want them. This is genius! I'd totally join one or even try one for myself. TH-cam content creators could have their own servers (Player Owned Servers ?!!!) and create a map from scratch, with NPCs with unique dialogue, quests, bosses, skills. The possibilities if Runescape was a sandbox... Oh boy.
I've always wished there was a version of OSRS where every item had to be made by a player. As in, no rune drops from monsters, no buying from NPC shops, etc. I also hoped the GE wouldn't be added to OSRS even though I couldn't live without it.
Also, DarkScape was amazing, and this could bring it back.
I’d honestly love for you to develop this with Jagex. What an awesome idea!
this would be an instant purchase for me, even just for myself, not to play with friends, thats just a bonus.
The practice for inferno this would allow is amazing, the ability for people to learn new bosses or mechanics without risking your bank is amazing!
I have a bit of a counter-point to how it would make content creation better on TH-cam.
It's a long comment, so the TLDR is: It'd be good for creators making shorter, one-off videos and hosting little events. But for creators who make long-form series, a lot of viewers may be split over wanting to watch "the real game."
Private servers are great with stuff like EVscape's PVP tournaments, and would help out with various small events like that, or just when you want to do some silly stuff with your friends for one-off videos. But when Jagex did the 10x xp/drop rate server with content creators about two years ago, every one of their comment sections was "who wants to watch this private server crap?" Most creators only did one video and got bored. That truly screwed over Rargh and LinksOcarina, who planned and recorded a whole "Then We Fight" season on that world. The server made it easier for them to make videos much more quickly, but it was at the cost of viewer interest and audience engagement. That was the first time in their channel history that they cancelled a series, iirc, and was a huge setback at the time.
One of the main appeals to osrs content creation is because it takes place on official servers, with creators having to navigate around real players, alongside the various interactions they have with players while doing their silly little snowflake challenges. Viewers love watching and being the cause of both detrimental interactions (getting PK'd in the wildy on an iron or being crashed somewhere), and beneficial ones (scouting implings/fallen stars, 99 parties, creators running into fans, and random players just running into future creators recording their first videos being impressed by their account build/restrictions).
Need I also mention the unintentional comedy of Episode 9 of Gielinor Games season 3 with that rando Mila Azul69 accidentally crashing them?
My only problem with this particular idea is the same issue I have with any private server. Allowing people to go and play in a totally separate world, separated from the rest of the player base is only going to further dilute an already small player base. Don't get me wrong, the idea sounds fun but I have a sneaking suspicion it would be detrimental to the player base as a whole.
Ex-CEO Mark Gerhard once teased at the idea of bringing official player-owned servers and he really wanted it come to fruition. I think he knew it would just divide the community and make it more difficult to deal with bots, that's why it never implemented. My opinion, of course.
This is so cool. Great idea. I love you idyl.
I really like the idea, imagine you getting all those players who is already going on the private servers, and I think there’s a lot of players.
I have legit been asking for this forever. I think it would be amazing
Im not 100% sure about leagues one specifically but private servers is a good idea. Love you idyl.
These private servers could totally get massive just like minecraft server networks. I 100% love you. I mean this idea.
This is so cool! great idea, Idyl!
Love ya buddy
Jagex, hire this genius ASAP! 😂 Love the idea of turning OSRS into a sandbox haven, but can we also get a beach and some tropical drinks to complete the experience? 🏖🍹
It would be so cool if OSRS private servers become a thing you could basically start a SMP. The GE needs to be limited to that private server though.
i love runescape an started playing it when i was 7. now, i’m in my mid 20s and work 50hrs a week so i don’t have time to grind anymore. it kinda upsets me that i’ll forever be stuff in the mid game because i don’t have the hours to sit & grind skills an quest anymore. the idea of osrs with a slightly increased xp/rate already has me sold
Path of Exile has purchaseable "private leagues" a bit like this. For the ones who want it, it's great
I really loved the intro lol. Can't wait to see more!
Being able to do player-made Escape Rooms would be frickin awesome.
This is so cool! What a great idea! I love you Idyl!
This is so cool! Great idea Idyl! I love you
Honestly, I'd pay a subscription just to get access to a map editor. It would help so much when trying to pitch new game ideas.
this is an unbelieveably good idea, so much so i cant believe no ones mentioned it before
I just want a permanent leagues world honestly