A BIG NO-TILL FAIL! - The Smallest Cabbage We've Ever Grown
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- No-till is all the rage, but does it really produce bigger and better harvests? Join us to see the results from our first season.
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Didn’t think I could respect or admire you any more! What a great Dad you are, think you got that honest . Thank you for the happy video
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Hilarious!!! The no till Kool Aid skit was great stuff. I made video few days ago about going green. Had a guy tell me, "burning firewood is not going green, its polluting the air. I should use gas burners to stay warm." I guess its better to let a tree rot in a forest, and do some fracking or whatever is needed to capture that gas. Its amazing how folks have freak out moments and take them out on youtubers. I love your humor, keep it up!!! I have an idea for Thursday night show, favorite freak out moments of 2020 from comments, or maybe top 5,,,LOL
Good idea!
When I switched over my 1/4 acre plot to no-till, it took about three years of adding compost AND a 7-5-7 organic fertilizer (granular) on my normal feeding schedule. During the winter between years 3-4, something happened and It all clicked in the soil. I almost didn’t believe it. The soil is now able to grow what I used to in yield and size with very little to no fert. Love the kool-aid analogy, context is king and most commonly lost on keyboard warriors. Love the experimental plot and stoked to see the results. Happy new year
Happy New Year!
The first time my daughter helped plant seed she was 3. She dumped a whole packet of lettuce seeds in one spot. Lol. It actually came up quite well considering it was so closely spaced.
I've found they appreciate it much more if you let them do it, even if they use a 1/4 pound of seed on a single row. 😂
I’ve often scooped up the dirt, along with the seed, and spread it out where I wanted it.
I’d wait until they weren’t looking of course.
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Love meeting your cute son. Being from up north I’m fascinated with his accent and would really enjoy hearing him talk a little more.
We'll try to get him in the mix more. He was out of school on Christmas break for this one.
Awesome addition with the kiddos, dumping so much in one spot! You have a good amount of patience, I tend to use my son a little less lol he’s good at picking carrots
They get better as they get older. I have to take a deep breath every now and then not worry about the little things. If we plant too much seed, oh well.
Love it!! You handled that perfectly!
LOL!!! "No Till Kool-Aid" I almost spit my Coke all over!! Hilarious!! Your boys are too cute! Who is your new 4-legged gardening friend?
We've had our Boykin Spaniel, Bella, for 10-11 years now. Now that I work from home most of the week, she spends more time outside with me and makes cameos from time to time.
@@gardeningwithhoss she's sweet!
Not sure if you guys get a chance to rest garden beds down there but up here guys will plant a legume mixed with tillage radish in the fall...the radish acts as a nitrogen storage tank and releases the nitrogen back out to the spring crops when it decomposes when the temps come up out of freezing....also a good thick stand of buckwheat laid on the surface will bring up 30lbs per acre of phosphorus...these are the kind of management things to keep in mind for a no till system...I know you guys don’t like to deal much with residue on the surface but it’s somewhat important to the system plus as you increase your nutrient cycling your residue will disappear quicker
We rest them quite often. We cover crop most plots at least twice a year.
Cracking me up. No Till Kool-aid must be like Troll Tea.
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That no-till thing sounds pretty "sciencey" to me. He made a new word!!! Shall be using it when I talk about all kinds of sciencey stuff! You know how much I love Science just like you, Abram!! Thank you! This has got to be one of my all-time fave videos! Your kids are too adorable!
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That was a awesome video I love seeing your kids help. I have kids myself. It is our job to teach them to garden.i love what y'all do. I don't do no till. 20 20 20 change my harvest this year. Thank you for all u taught me. Hopefully soon I will get the double wheel hoe and the drip tape Right now I just can't afford it. I love your traditional style of garden
Thanks Shaun!
Beautiful Family.
Thanks Thomas!
There are always critics. Some of the things you do don't work for me in Missouri but I can get tomatoes all summer.
Lucky you!
I think you would still benefit from adding some organic fertilizer once a month or so
We'll definitely be adding some in the future. But it was nice to see what would happen without any fertilizer.
You guys ever had cabbage rolls if not I would recommend trying it I love cabbage rolls.
I've had them at a restaurant, but never made them myself. But they are so good!
Hahaha You are killing me with the kool aid. Your results are what I have found when planting no-till and not using any sort of commercial and/or inorganic fertilizers. You do get a crop, but it is not of the size or quantity of using tillage and fertilizers. There is also truth to the fact that over the longer term you increase the fertility of your soils, but I have not experienced the same level of fertility of no-till versus tillage. The resulting no-till crops do not have the chemicals that were used on them and are more natural and organic, but I have not been able to get more than a small to medium harvest of any given fruit or vegetable. Appreciate the updates and commitment to continuing to have the plot and perform more research and report the results.
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Amen amen amen! That Kool aid is bad stuff.
I started watching y'all a few weeks ago and I'm not ashamed to say you make this South Texas boy smile sometimes.
My granddaddy was a life long farmer in the Rio grande valley and I caught the Ag. Bug 54 years ago myself.
I run into those people that jump into gardening, farming and are experts in a week then decide to tell those that have been doing it for decades how it should be done.
I'm always willing to learn but dang it, sometimes they just don't know as much as they think they know.
Keep up the good work and thank you
Glad you found us Chuck!
Travis....3 Things: 1. Can you all please put back the quick email option for advice, etc. on your HOSS website? I really miss that. 2. I plan to start my tomato seeds indoors around March 15ish....When it is time to plant them in the ground, can I plant them directly from the 162 tray or do I need to step them up to a 3" pot before planting them into the ground. 3. Same question with green peppers...Do I need to step them up to a bigger pot before planting them into the ground. I live in Zone 7B. Thanks.
1. We had to remove that option on the site because we weren't able to handle the volume in a reasonable time. That was one of the main reasons why we created the Row by Row Group on Facebook. Lots of experienced gardeners there who are always more than willing to help.
2. Put the tomatoes in the ground when you're sure you won't have any more freezing temps. We plant directly from the 162 trays.
3. I would step the peppers up to a larger, 3-4" pot. The commercial guys around here go straight from 162s to the ground, but it takes a bit more finesse and you'll lose a few plants doing it that way.
Speaking of tilling, is there a tiller I can rent that won't be obliterated by tree roots? If not will a tarp alone be enough to kill grass and weeds?
A tarp alone will work, it will just take longer without the tillage.
In 15 years that young man will be a regular on the row by row show. He will have a lot to say about his dad who tried no till for five years before Plowing it all under and starting from scratch. lol
Can't wait!
@@gardeningwithhoss I hope I'm still around to watch it. I appreciate you man.
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Hay man good video ben watching for a while just never said anything. Just glad to cee you including the children in this. THANKS.
Good to hear from you Wayne!
Predicted this when you first posted it. Brassicas are one of the few plants that do not form AMF (arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi) symbiosis. They work fine with no till, but your soil has not got the symbiosis required to feed the soil. AMF require a living root to survive. But they cant form a link with any brassicas. So this is a case where it really is not possible for that plot to yield as much without fertilizers. It's actually a common mistake. I made it myself when I was beginning. I overcame this deficit by using multi-species, including enough crops between the brassicas to maintain a healthy soil food web, and pathways between rows with perennial grasses. schaechter.asmblog.org/schaechter/2013/08/mycorrhizal-fungi-the-worlds-biggest-drinking-straws-and-largest-unseen-communication-system.html . But of course you could get similar results using no till mono-cropped cabbages...just need to fertilize them since the soil food web is especially limited monocropping brassicas in winter.
Keep trying. Beginners mistake. You'll eventually get there. BTW, furrows for seeds don't hurt anything. In fact soil has several horizons.....the O horizon, The A horizon, the B horizon, the C horizon. You put down compost, so you have an O-horizon. Disturbing that O-horizon wont hurt a thing. However, to really build soil health, bare soil between plants and rows is a big "no no". The saprophytic fungi and bacteria in that compost will decompose enough organic matter to give your cabbages a good start, but cool soil means they slow down dramatically in the winter. As mentioned above, brassicas form no symbiotic bonds with AMF in the A horizon. So this result was definitely completely predictable.
For more information on the keys to soil health and how many gardeners and farmers have been able to eliminate fertilizer watch this: th-cam.com/video/9yPjoh9YJMk/w-d-xo.html pay attention closely. He flatly states if you try eliminate all fertilizers immediately, you will have a disaster.
Good to know. Thanks for sharing!
@@gardeningwithhoss You have good information on this channel, which is why I subscribe to it. One day I hope to see you as much as expert in no till as other methods. ;) You are starting out right. I think your learning curve will kick in faster than most. The gardener that never made a mistake, never actually gardened! PS since you did not keep the AMF alive, might suggest inoculation for next crop. It's cheap. fungi.com/products/mycogrow_soluble
hoss whats up howdy happy new year... out brussel sprouts came out tinny tiny...this year..would it still be organic if you sprayed the ground with recharge..??? the microbial supplements like azos that is nitrogen fixing....just food for thought... happy days... do farmers plant peanuts in the ground hoss for fertilizer and let them rot....
They will do that if you don't get the nutrients to them early.
Your son is so adorable
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I did not find the kool aid on thw hoss tools website. Were can I get some. Also need to have a seed challenge this year. Father, son, grandson. Who can grow the biggest onion. 😆
Might be a little late for that since onions are already in the ground, but I do like that idea!
Just needed a little nitrogen i think. Would have been interesting to see some urea laid down heavy on just half a row that cabbage.
Is your dog a Boykin Spaniel ? I miss mine
Yes it is. Bella is 11 years old. We've had her since she was a pup.
Do you follow any of the low till or no till market gardeners? I personally like the No Till podcast and Neversink Farm.
I've watched quite a few of them. Many of them are only growing fast-growing crops like lettuce, greens, radishes, etc. Haven't seen many of them growing heavy feeders like cabbage, onions or corn. I know why they don't grow them (because they make more money off the fast-growing stuff), but it is something to consider when comparing their success with certain methods.
@@gardeningwithhoss I believe that some do grow longer season heavy feeders. I would have to go back and look to see which ones. Singing Frogs in California uses turkey litter compost which has a heavy nitrogen base. I am fortunate to have access to that myself, but it requires some care in applying because it can burn tender crops. No till is a bit of a misnomer, low till seems more accurate.
Guys i used your seeds for cabbage and i hate to say it I am having the same results in raised beds that were set up perfect. Not sure its your no till that is causing the mini-cabbage. I got say they made it through last weeks 3 degree nights with only pine needles for cover so not all bad news. Thanks JCC
Last year when we used chicken manure and fertilizer injection, we had much better results than this year when we didn't fertilize -- same varieties.
No chicken delight but i set the beds with horse apples so its pretty rich soil. Weather in north Mississippi been pretty tough this winter so will try it again. We have to put greens and cabbage in raised beds to keep the local inhabitants from cleaning the garden out. Need a rabbit sausage recipe.
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Need to do taste test
I can't tell a difference.
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To be serious though no till works for sure and till will damage soil if over done plus encourage root pests. The advantage of no till is primarily weed relief and a lack of maintenance needed the soil beyond applied compost.
However I will say that synthetic fertilizers will always be the peak of production potential unless applied in such a way that they are damaging.
All I do is broad fork, apply compost to level, then add cheap 10-10-10 and things grow like crazy. Fist sized radishes , massive kohlrabi.
It’s not because I don’t till. It’s because I added a bit of aeration, amendment and some damn nitrogen xD.
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Did you broad fork your rows before you put down the compost. you’ll get some aeration without destroying the fungal web.
I have a broad fork, but am not a fan. I did have a really dense stand of iron clay peas before adding the thick layer of compost. Those pea roots should have provided plenty of aeration.
@@gardeningwithhoss I completely understand, it’s a back breaker. At minimum you’ve proven that you can grow food without tilling or heavy feeding. Try the broad fork, do a comparison. Another thing that might help is making the nutrients in the compost more available to the plants, try adding mycorrhizae and upping cal/mag a bit or put down some lime.
Btw mine wasn’t kool aid it was sweet tea and lemonade. 😂
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Travis, I just got my seeds today from y’all and they included Imperial Broccoli. I’m over here by Columbus, Georgia in Fortson. Do you think it’s possible to get in a crop? I’m not familiar with this type of broccoli and I’m just not sure.
Sure. Start your transplants as soon as you can.
I normally top dress with chicken litter for my no-till beds. Also, you need to give us an update on how much better those cabbages taste compared to the chemically fertilized cabbages. I might have to get me some of that no till kool-aid.
They taste the same. I'm not convinced that no-till food tastes better. I think that's confirmation bias.
@@gardeningwithhoss I find that some my crops have more flavor since I've switched to no-till organic growing mid-summer of last year, but I also have been fertilizing with chicken litter. I've also received a lot of remarks about the flavor from customers, saying they're the best they've tasted.
Nothing wrong with happy customers!
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I have been wondering about the no till bit myself, so I'm no expert. However, if you normally fertilize your cabbages then why didn't you fertilize this time with a cow manure tea, compost tea, or some other organic(or in- organic) fertilizer if you want to compare apples to apples? If you are trying to see if there is a difference between two items, don't you need to limit other variables?
Many no-till proponents claim that they don't have to fertilize at all. So we are testing that idea long-term to see if that is indeed the case.
Why don’t you use your granular organic fertilizer and water it in with some fish emulsion?
Probably will use some of our complete organic fertilizer next time we plant in this plot. We injected some fish emulsion through the overhead sprinkler, just probably not enough.
You sure need to get rid of those pine trees before your garden gets really shaded!!!
If they were mine, I would. Those belong to my wife's uncle who owns the property adjacent to ours.
Haha this is a bit of a short sighted approach to trialing notil, I have been watching your channel for years and thought I should draw your attention to Charles dowding, he has been working with no dig systems for many years, and also has a system for growing beetroot no dig but with multi sown seedlings, rather than trenching seeds ( I don't know why u would trench when u could just dib in multi sown seedlings) for obvious reasons in his climate and situation of getting best production from space. I hope to see at least 3 years in your no dig experiment just consider those personal size cabbages a bonus better than a standard cover crop :-) , my first no dig bed is about 14 months old now ... almost no weeding just pull the odd weed by hand about once a month and producing nicely ... Haha bet you think I'm a subaru driving hippy with a man bun ... but I just want you to continue this experiment and put that poofy pink drink down and have a beer.
Weed pressure isn't really a huge issue for us -- that's pretty easy to conquer. But we do want to continue to test this "natural fertility" idea.
Soooo you can't add organic fertilizer in a no-till garden? We have raised beds that we don't till but add organic fertilizer and compost. Cute Kiddos!!! LOL 7 million beets and a crop cover of spinach 🤣
You could. But we were mainly testing this idea that the biology will provide "natural fertility." Many no-till proponents say that they don't ever have to fertilize -- still don't believe that. But we shall see!
You might want to reexamine your understanding of what no till does. Biology can't feed your plants nutrients that are not already in the soil in some form. Soil that has had fertilizer and cultivation several times a year usually is depleted of many of the food stores biology required. Try growing a series of cover crops in layers of compost to build up the organic matter supply. If the biology runs out of food before your crop matures, then you will have a problem. If you are growing in sandy type soil, you could have difficulty building up enough organic matter in one season.
We cover crop our plots at least twice a year. We cover cropped this one before adding 3 tons of compost and planting. Just wasn't enough "juice" for these cabbages.
@@gardeningwithhoss What soil type are you growing in?
We have sandy loam soils here. They're very "workable," but don't hold nutrients very well and the extreme heat tends to "burn up" the organic matter in the soils pretty quickly. So we're always cover cropping and adding compost to replenish it.
@@gardeningwithhoss I grew up gardening in sandy loam, so I can identify. I now am trying a property with pure sand. I do wonder how much organic matter is needed to feed a bed for a whole season.
From my experiences, sandy soils really require some additional nutrient inputs. Cover crops and compost are great, but just not enough in sandy soils.