Thanks mate that clears that up for the most part! So if i chose a developer plan and transfered a completed site over to a client, they would then have to choose a relevant hosting pay monthly plan that matches the complexity of the site created? Or is the code just able to be exported to any ftp hosting company?
Thank you for making this video. I'm curious about this flow>>>>. Develop the site in webflow / export into a separate hosting service like godaddy / need to make edits later on . What would be best here? Should I keep a unhosted version on webflow and export the site each time there is an edit?
If I’m starting my agency and using web flow to build my own site should I sign up as an agency and build my site that way or buy an individual site plan and make my agency account separately?
Please correct me if I'm mistaken - if I'm making a webflow site for a client and I'm about to transfer the project to their account, they're going to need a workspace plan subscription AND a site plan subscription?
No not necessarily. They will only need a site plan not a workspace plan. The only time they’d also need a workspace plan would be if they needed lots of additional designer seats. However if you want to continue working on their site after transfer, you’ll need a minimum of the freelancer workspace in order to be able to be allowed as a guest on their basic site plan account.
Hey Sam, really nice channel I recently found you and I've been binge-watching your videos. I have a question for you if you have the time it would really help. If I'm just starting out as a freelance web designer in a third world country looking to work with clients from foreign first world countries, do you think it's a good idea to first offer my work for free or for a very low price just to get my foot in the game? By very low I mean like sub-100$ per week or so. Again, thank you for the awesome videos!
Thanks dude! I think if you’re just starting out it’s definitely a good idea to start with small projects until you’re more confident. When I first started out I used a platform called Freelancer which is a kind of job board. There aren’t always huge paying jobs on there but it’s a perfectly decent way to start. Good luck on your new business 👍🏻
Hey Sam, so I'm a dev that works across a few platforms, primarily Shopify, Squarespace, etc. These don't charge developers a monthly fee to maintain an account or while developing projects. Is the expectation from Webflow that developers need to pay a monthly Freelancer plan (or above) with them to maintain an account, even when not actively building/working on sites? As you mentioned, I have 2 or 3 test sites saved also. Once I hand off my client site, if I want to be available for support - I need to be paying an ongoing monthly Webflow subscription? Feature-wise I used the cms for this project as well as embedded JS code, and while not currently using ecommerce, I began with a template that is built for it as the client indicated they may want it in the future - so it does have ecommerce pages setup in it. Do you know are they going to have to pay for an ecommerce plan - even though they may not use those features in the first 6-12 months?
question: If I have the AGENCY plan with my agency, but beside the clients sites I want to run 2 own websites for myself: Do I need then 2 site plans? or are there any site plans "included" in the agency plan?
Hey Sam, thank you for clarifying the pricing. I just want to clarify one more thing. Do we need to have both Site plan and Workspace plan? Does Workspace plan include everything in Site plan? And if I am a freelancer, I would pay for workspace plan and my client will pay for the site plan, is that how this pricing works? Thanks.
Hey dude, so your client needs a site plan (when the site is ready) because a site plan is basically hosting with access to the builder. A freelancer or agency workspace plan is for the developer so no you don’t need hosting. These plans allow you to store the site in your account and then when ready you can transfer the site over to the clients hosting. Theoretically you could make the website for the client straight away on the clients hosting but that means they have access straight away. So the developer workspace plans allow you a level of control and if you’re regularly making webflow websites for clients you’ll want at least the freelancer plan 👍🏻
You can purchase a freelancer subscription, and then just send it off to the domain that your client has bought. There's no real reason to burdon a client on having a webflow subscription of any sort unless they value webflow and maintaining the site on their own.
@@innerinsights224 I'm not sure what you mean dude but the client should always be in control and own their own hosting plan in my opinion. If the freelancer ever disappears or gets hit by a bus, the client has no way of accessing their own website otherwise.
@@sam-harrison well a lot of the small businesses or individuals here would be happy just having the code. Why would you make a client pay for Webflow subscriptions if you can export the code and upload the files to their hosting service of choice. I the freelancer can then import the code back into my own account if they need changes. A lot of people here in south south Africa just do once off deals. So In the end I save the client money if they can have a site hosted with the exported code without them paying for Webflow, I feel like this is where the Freelander plan comes in. Instead of the client having to have their own plan to import and export.
@@innerinsights224 Ah so you mean for sites that don’t use the CMS? It’s just you lose CMS capability if you export away. But yeah for just static sites exporting makes sense.
Can i host all of my clients websites on a webflow plan? This way i can charge them the hosting and they dont have to worry about buying themselves a plan to host their website
You can host their sites on your account if you have a freelancer or agency workspace. But I really don’t recommend that. Your clients need to own their own website which technically they won’t if you’re hosting it for them on your account. You can create the site on your account and then transfer the site over to there’s. You’ll still be able to make changes for them.
So after I transfer the site to the client, they'll need to then purchase a hosting plan to publish the site - so far so good. But now, what do they see? Can they not manage/update their site's content via the designer since they don't have a workspace plan? It'd be really helpful to see a walkthrough of the transfer process from both POV's - the developer & client. I'm familiar with workspace only, as that's I have, but I don't fully understand the hosting-only option. Like, what if my client has multiple sites?
They don’t need a workspace plan other than the basic free one that comes with it. They have access to the designer with a hosting plan. They can also add you as a guest so you can access their workspace. That’s on the assumption you at least have a freelancer plan which is likely if you’re regularly using Webflow.
If the website is yours you’ll need a hosting plan which also gives you builder access. But if you’re building websites for clients, it’s best to also have a workspace plan so you can build the site on your account until you’re ready to transfer it. This allows you control over the project until it’s done and a workspace plan allows you access to clients sites if you’re doing ongoing work for them. The alternative is to just build the site on their hosting plan straight away but I prefer to retain ownership until the site is done and I’ve been paid which is why having a workspace plan is useful.
i think, yes.. you can sell your site to a client and tell him the hosting price and then they will pay to you, and you will use your account to host their site. 5 dollars/mounth it's okay
Do you always let your clients pay for hosting? I know Webflow used to offer client billing which could allow you to make a small margin on top of the hosting each month but they have recently stopped the service.
What is the point of paying for a Workspace plan if each customer can have a Webflow account? If you pay a Workspace plan because you are doing websites for many customers you also need to pay for hosting for each website. So instead of doing that, you can create a Webflow account for each customer and you pay for a Site plan that also considers Hosting. Is that correct?
Clients should always have control over their site so their own hosting plan is always ideal. As a regular developer of Webflow sites you will find it useful having at least a freelancer workspace plan which allows you to retain control over the site until you’re ready to transfer to the client. Also a workspace plan for you the developer is useful since it allows you a number of cloned projects.
What i really don't understand: how can so many people complain about the price? I mean, if you don't have 16$ per month as a freelancer, you should consider doing something else that brings you money. If your clients don't have 29$ per month you should not consider them as clients, as they will only bring you problems.
Yeah, this is a huge problem. Because If you are a freelancer, building unlimited sites for clients is going to get very expensive per seat. These are all the types of things that make it hard for freelancers to make real money Later on down the road.
@sam-harrison That's still easier said than done. How do we know that other users or clients want to give you access Just because you're a workspace member?
What I do is develop the site on my account and only when it’s done and I’ve been paid do I transfer it to their hosting account. Then if they want ongoing work doing they have no choice but to grant access if they want the work doing.
@@thetruthwillnevergovoided4344 well...., if you got the client and made the project, they will give you access unless they no longer want to work with you?
Does this mean that as a freelancer, if I decide to use webflow then my clients have to use webflow too? Meaning I can't build on webflow and then send it to them to host it?
Sorry I’m not quite sure what you mean. You can make the website for your client on your “freelancer” account and then send it to your clients hosting plan.
To use Webflow’s features you have to host with Webflow. It’s an all in one solution. You can export your site away however if you want to, but obviously you won’t be able to use the Webflow CMS.
Too expensive for me. Seems like a good place to learn on, But they don't allow exporting of code for other hosting companies that you may well have taken out previously. Code yourself then you in full control.
This is an absolute catastrophe for people needing their own cms and who work on a couple of small website projects as freeelancers. I am starting to think webflow is becoming adobe
Whilst Webflow won’t say this, the reality is that Webflow isn’t really tailored towards very small businesses or side projects. It’s better suited to clients that have some kind of marketing budget. If price is a major limiting factor Bricks builder + Wordpress is a great alternative.
Webflow need to make it less complex to understand. This is so confusing site plan workspace plan. Thank you Sam you make it simple to understand.
Thanks mate that clears that up for the most part! So if i chose a developer plan and transfered a completed site over to a client, they would then have to choose a relevant hosting pay monthly plan that matches the complexity of the site created? Or is the code just able to be exported to any ftp hosting company?
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Thank you for making this video. I'm curious about this flow>>>>. Develop the site in webflow / export into a separate hosting service like godaddy / need to make edits later on .
What would be best here? Should I keep a unhosted version on webflow and export the site each time there is an edit?
Would be good to get another video like this for advice on Spline memberships too since that is now the default for integrating 3D.
helpful vid, could you explain what are the differences for In House Teams and Freelancers and Agencies
If I’m starting my agency and using web flow to build my own site should I sign up as an agency and build my site that way or buy an individual site plan and make my agency account separately?
Me too. I hired an indian freelancer on Upwork. 40 usd only he will make all website. I just bought domain.
Please correct me if I'm mistaken - if I'm making a webflow site for a client and I'm about to transfer the project to their account, they're going to need a workspace plan subscription AND a site plan subscription?
No not necessarily. They will only need a site plan not a workspace plan. The only time they’d also need a workspace plan would be if they needed lots of additional designer seats. However if you want to continue working on their site after transfer, you’ll need a minimum of the freelancer workspace in order to be able to be allowed as a guest on their basic site plan account.
Hey Sam, really nice channel I recently found you and I've been binge-watching your videos.
I have a question for you if you have the time it would really help.
If I'm just starting out as a freelance web designer in a third world country looking to work with clients from foreign first world countries, do you think it's a good idea to first offer my work for free or for a very low price just to get my foot in the game? By very low I mean like sub-100$ per week or so.
Again, thank you for the awesome videos!
Thanks dude! I think if you’re just starting out it’s definitely a good idea to start with small projects until you’re more confident. When I first started out I used a platform called Freelancer which is a kind of job board. There aren’t always huge paying jobs on there but it’s a perfectly decent way to start. Good luck on your new business 👍🏻
@@sam-harrison Thanks! 🙏
@@sam-harrison keep up the good videos
Hey Sam, so I'm a dev that works across a few platforms, primarily Shopify, Squarespace, etc. These don't charge developers a monthly fee to maintain an account or while developing projects. Is the expectation from Webflow that developers need to pay a monthly Freelancer plan (or above) with them to maintain an account, even when not actively building/working on sites? As you mentioned, I have 2 or 3 test sites saved also. Once I hand off my client site, if I want to be available for support - I need to be paying an ongoing monthly Webflow subscription? Feature-wise I used the cms for this project as well as embedded JS code, and while not currently using ecommerce, I began with a template that is built for it as the client indicated they may want it in the future - so it does have ecommerce pages setup in it. Do you know are they going to have to pay for an ecommerce plan - even though they may not use those features in the first 6-12 months?
You can upgrade it after
question: If I have the AGENCY plan with my agency, but beside the clients sites I want to run 2 own websites for myself: Do I need then 2 site plans? or are there any site plans "included" in the agency plan?
Hey Sam, thank you for clarifying the pricing. I just want to clarify one more thing. Do we need to have both Site plan and Workspace plan? Does Workspace plan include everything in Site plan?
And if I am a freelancer, I would pay for workspace plan and my client will pay for the site plan, is that how this pricing works?
Thanks.
Hey dude, so your client needs a site plan (when the site is ready) because a site plan is basically hosting with access to the builder. A freelancer or agency workspace plan is for the developer so no you don’t need hosting. These plans allow you to store the site in your account and then when ready you can transfer the site over to the clients hosting. Theoretically you could make the website for the client straight away on the clients hosting but that means they have access straight away. So the developer workspace plans allow you a level of control and if you’re regularly making webflow websites for clients you’ll want at least the freelancer plan 👍🏻
You can purchase a freelancer subscription, and then just send it off to the domain that your client has bought. There's no real reason to burdon a client on having a webflow subscription of any sort unless they value webflow and maintaining the site on their own.
@@innerinsights224 I'm not sure what you mean dude but the client should always be in control and own their own hosting plan in my opinion. If the freelancer ever disappears or gets hit by a bus, the client has no way of accessing their own website otherwise.
@@sam-harrison well a lot of the small businesses or individuals here would be happy just having the code. Why would you make a client pay for Webflow subscriptions if you can export the code and upload the files to their hosting service of choice. I the freelancer can then import the code back into my own account if they need changes. A lot of people here in south south Africa just do once off deals.
So In the end I save the client money if they can have a site hosted with the exported code without them paying for Webflow, I feel like this is where the Freelander plan comes in. Instead of the client having to have their own plan to import and export.
@@innerinsights224 Ah so you mean for sites that don’t use the CMS? It’s just you lose CMS capability if you export away. But yeah for just static sites exporting makes sense.
Can i host all of my clients websites on a webflow plan? This way i can charge them the hosting and they dont have to worry about buying themselves a plan to host their website
did you figure this out ?
You can host their sites on your account if you have a freelancer or agency workspace. But I really don’t recommend that. Your clients need to own their own website which technically they won’t if you’re hosting it for them on your account. You can create the site on your account and then transfer the site over to there’s. You’ll still be able to make changes for them.
@@sam-harrisonthey have to manually depublish / un publish manually right ? I can’t just upload to custom domain ( their domain right)
So after I transfer the site to the client, they'll need to then purchase a hosting plan to publish the site - so far so good. But now, what do they see? Can they not manage/update their site's content via the designer since they don't have a workspace plan?
It'd be really helpful to see a walkthrough of the transfer process from both POV's - the developer & client. I'm familiar with workspace only, as that's I have, but I don't fully understand the hosting-only option. Like, what if my client has multiple sites?
They don’t need a workspace plan other than the basic free one that comes with it. They have access to the designer with a hosting plan. They can also add you as a guest so you can access their workspace. That’s on the assumption you at least have a freelancer plan which is likely if you’re regularly using Webflow.
but in the workspace plans, e.g. the freelancer plan: how many pages can one site have? unlimited?
so I have to purchase two plans one for my portfolio and contact us page and another one for freelance projects?
If the website is yours you’ll need a hosting plan which also gives you builder access. But if you’re building websites for clients, it’s best to also have a workspace plan so you can build the site on your account until you’re ready to transfer it. This allows you control over the project until it’s done and a workspace plan allows you access to clients sites if you’re doing ongoing work for them. The alternative is to just build the site on their hosting plan straight away but I prefer to retain ownership until the site is done and I’ve been paid which is why having a workspace plan is useful.
Thanks 🙏@@sam-harrison
@@sam-harrison They should have made the Freelancer plan including 1 website plan (for yourself) + workspace
Can you resell hosting as a service using Webflow
i think, yes.. you can sell your site to a client and tell him the hosting price and then they will pay to you, and you will use your account to host their site. 5 dollars/mounth it's okay
Hello Sam, I need your help with webflow pricing
Do you always let your clients pay for hosting? I know Webflow used to offer client billing which could allow you to make a small margin on top of the hosting each month but they have recently stopped the service.
Hey dude, yes always. Clients should always maintain ownership of their site in case we get by a bus haha.
Thanks
What is the point of paying for a Workspace plan if each customer can have a Webflow account? If you pay a Workspace plan because you are doing websites for many customers you also need to pay for hosting for each website. So instead of doing that, you can create a Webflow account for each customer and you pay for a Site plan that also considers Hosting. Is that correct?
Clients should always have control over their site so their own hosting plan is always ideal. As a regular developer of Webflow sites you will find it useful having at least a freelancer workspace plan which allows you to retain control over the site until you’re ready to transfer to the client. Also a workspace plan for you the developer is useful since it allows you a number of cloned projects.
What i really don't understand: how can so many people complain about the price? I mean, if you don't have 16$ per month as a freelancer, you should consider doing something else that brings you money.
If your clients don't have 29$ per month you should not consider them as clients, as they will only bring you problems.
How much does cost if I need an official email?
So For example if i do 2 projects for client in a month free developer plane is enough for me and does it have all features ?
You cannot export the code in the free version.
Yeah, this is a huge problem. Because If you are a freelancer, building unlimited sites for clients is going to get very expensive per seat. These are all the types of things that make it hard for freelancers to make real money Later on down the road.
If your clients are hosting their own site though, you can get guest access for free as long as you have a workspace account 👍🏻
@sam-harrison That's still easier said than done. How do we know that other users or clients want to give you access Just because you're a workspace member?
What I do is develop the site on my account and only when it’s done and I’ve been paid do I transfer it to their hosting account. Then if they want ongoing work doing they have no choice but to grant access if they want the work doing.
@@thetruthwillnevergovoided4344 well...., if you got the client and made the project, they will give you access unless they no longer want to work with you?
Does this mean that as a freelancer, if I decide to use webflow then my clients have to use webflow too?
Meaning I can't build on webflow and then send it to them to host it?
Sorry I’m not quite sure what you mean. You can make the website for your client on your “freelancer” account and then send it to your clients hosting plan.
@@sam-harrison even if their hosting plan is not on webflow?
To use Webflow’s features you have to host with Webflow. It’s an all in one solution. You can export your site away however if you want to, but obviously you won’t be able to use the Webflow CMS.
@sam-harrison alright, this makes sense. Thank you.
@@olaifeolawore2471 No worries 👍
Too expensive for me. Seems like a good place to learn on, But they don't allow exporting of code for other hosting companies that you may well have taken out previously. Code yourself then you in full control.
This is an absolute catastrophe for people needing their own cms and who work on a couple of small website projects as freeelancers. I am starting to think webflow is becoming adobe
Whilst Webflow won’t say this, the reality is that Webflow isn’t really tailored towards very small businesses or side projects. It’s better suited to clients that have some kind of marketing budget. If price is a major limiting factor Bricks builder + Wordpress is a great alternative.
I feel that webflow is tl expensive
Depends on your clients dude. One man businesses maybe, but companies with a marketing budget won’t feel that way.
@@sam-harrisonthats true bro. Maybe the change is in that mind game changer. Then the opportunities webflow offers are incredible.
this came out 3 days ago? Why has the entire pricing schema already changed again? This video is deprecated.
I don’t think it has dude. Just make sure you’re looking at either the monthly or yearly options when comparing.