An interesting take on stretching for more range of motion, and therefore power! Usually, in the exercice world, both those concepts are opposed. I'll certainly try that!
Thanks for the comment and analysis. So we understand that a lot of the research suggests that stretching prior to exercise has shown to reduce strength and power. What we are suggesting here is stretching for increased mobility. I.e if you could only pull a bow and arrow back half way vs pulling it back all the way. What you would also want to do if you did improve this mobility is couple it with power rotation exercises to help you rotate your body back quickly to get back to your ideal hitting point for a smash.
Great insight into the theory of the initial part of smash power. I’m looking forward to seeing the next video on how the range of motion interacts with technique and most importantly timing to generate the power everyone seeks 💪
much of what i see and hear said about smash these days seems part of a viral pandemic of wrong teaching, but i think you guys are right on the money re mechanics and offer good suggestions to prepare the body. especially valuable mechanical points are 1) giving your racket head the time and distance to generate velocity, and 2) isolating the hips from the upper body so that there are 2 stages of developing kinetic energy, a slightly slower and deeply muscular lower stage starting with the legs, and a higher much less muscular and explosively accelerating stage in the upper body i also agree if you try to describe too many elements of smash the lesson falls apart. smash in badminton is nothing less than a fine kinetic art, and truth is, no matter how good your coach you find the keys on your own
Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed comment. It’s sometimes an area that can be made over complicated, there are obviously lots of contributing factors that add power but sometimes you need to work on the ones that provide the biggest percentage.
@@kunal_p84 @kunalpatel8151 when you say something is wrong or right, it's not worth much if you dont explain why you are saying that. if you want to improve your badminton you need to get out of your imagination and into the facts. if you think watching 'carefully' shows there's a problem with the grip then please tell us the exact time-stamp where we can see this wrong grip and describe what is wrong about the grip and why it's wrong so we can learn from what you call your 'careful' observations
Observe the grip at 8:13. The thumb is clearly touching the index finger. This is common mistake when you try to grip to hard. The correct fore hand grip has a clear separation between thumb and index finger . Also look at the thumbnail picture. Thumb is touching the index finger. I didn't just comment without observing. You probably don't want to accept you are wrong in fear of loosing credibility or too much work to make
Observe the grip at 8:13. The thumb is clearly touching the index finger. This is common mistake when you try to grip to hard. The correct fore hand grip has a clear separation between thumb and index finger . Also look at the thumbnail picture. Thumb is touching the index finger. I didn't just comment without observing. You probably don't want to accept you are wrong in fear of loosing credibility or too much work to make
At the stage of newbie I can see that my friend who have flexibility on shoulder, more ROM tend to smash better Holding hand behind the back with shoulder curve in is the easiest example of great shoulder mobility
stretching video disguised as a badminton tutorial 😅 ofc flexibility is important but 1:42 saying its not about physical strength is a huge understatement
As we mentioned in the video, we appreciate range of motion isn’t an exciting topic but a very under rated topic that can really aid in adding power to a smash. Most of the top badminton players aren’t built like bodybuilders, they do however have great technique, racket head speed and a consistent contact in the middle of the racket, these are the areas we feel players should be focusing on in generating more power in the smash. Thanks for taking the time to watch and commenting.
I think if you guys could focus on perfecting the swing, it would be super helpful. A lot of newer players don’t have a good swing or even know where to start 😊
Great tips as always especially since most videos don't cover stretches and exercises that help with your smash. When smashing from the floor should the front leg come off the floor before the body rotation as you hop between one foot to the other?
Pleased you enjoyed it! 😀 We feel the front foot would stay more in contact with the floor, this means it’s easier for you to shift your bodyweight forward using the front foot as a base.
@@TheBadmintonZoneHQ The men's doubles I watch always jump smash, but the women's doubles players I watch seem to bring their front foot up slightly *just before* to load weight onto the back leg before quickly shifting it forward for their smashes. And since my students are much less athletic and shorter I figured them learning how to smash from the floor would be better at this point. (They are only 13 years old). Is this faulty?
@@zmollon yes we understand what you mean now, yes a weight transfer from back leg to front leg is also great for adding power. It’s never a bad idea to break things down for younger students, working on power on the floor will make things easier for them to understand the dynamics. Then once happy you can start to add the jump.
PLease explain pronation in a dedicated video and why in the professional bwf smashes slow motions the rackets gets fully turned in opposite direction but the shuttle goes straight is it because of pronation?
Yes forearm pronation plays a part in being able to add power to the smash, this can also be the case when intercepting a shuttle at the net, particularly on the round the head side. We can look into this for sure in the future. Thanks for the comment, we hope you found the video useful.
Eh I’ve heard either side of the coin for whether or not a jump adds power. My theory is that it does because you’re adding the gravity of your falling body into it as well. And the new Guinness record for fastest smash was a jump one if I recall correctly
the jump is an essential element of smash but it does not add power. it adds steepness and also earliness, both of which make defense more difficult. sometimes jumping allows you to intercept the shuttle before it has lost its energy, and this also enhances power. the gravitational effect you mention is theoretically present but its effect is negligible
We would agree with the comment above. The jump is also a very important aspect of the smash as it adds angle to the shot which means the return has to be in an upward direction allowing you to hopefully stay on the attack easier. The mention of gravity is interesting but due to it being a force acting in a downwards direction and smash power needing forward motion we don’t think it adds anything to the shot. Thanks for taking the time to comment, we enjoy being able to interact with our viewers 👍
Interesting that you don't say much about hips and legs? Much of our power is also generated by the rotation through our back, hips and from our legs and the combination of the total movement and the transfer of that kinetic energy into the shuttle. And how does this translate into if and how jumping adds power. Your thoughts, guys?
Thanks for your comment! We decided we didn’t want to try and cover too many areas as not to over complicate it. So we chose a couple of key areas we see. You are right though, our legs and hips are so important in the transfer through the shot. When we speak about mobility of the torso I think this links in well because we want to create a small lag between our hips firing and our torso coming through, which will equal a larger energy transfer.
It’s mainly to give you more control but it also makes the sweet spot smaller. Pros tend to have their rackets strung tighter as they are able to fit the sweet spot consistently.
Watched the whole video. Your grip is wrong in all demonstrations. Use a handshake like grip will also improve your smash. You might want to change the thumbnail too it shows wrong grip too.
The grip was a forehand grip (handshake grip as you describe). The slow motion clip shows this at around 1.18 as you can see the forearm rotation needed to square the racket up which is needed with the forehand grip. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Observe the grip at 8:13. The thumb is clearly touching the index finger. This is common mistake when you try to grip to hard. The correct fore hand grip has a clear separation between thumb and index finger . Also look at the thumbnail picture. Thumb is touching the index finger. I didn't just comment without observing. You probably don't want to accept you are wrong in fear of loosing credibility or too much work to make another video.
Observe the grip at 8:13. The thumb is clearly touching the index finger. This is common mistake when you try to grip to hard. The correct fore hand grip has a clear separation between thumb and index finger . Also look at the thumbnail picture. Thumb is touching the index finger. I didn't just comment without observing. You probably don't want to accept you are wrong in fear of loosing credibility or too much work to make
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An interesting take on stretching for more range of motion, and therefore power! Usually, in the exercice world, both those concepts are opposed. I'll certainly try that!
Let us know how you get on 👍
Thanks for the comment and analysis. So we understand that a lot of the research suggests that stretching prior to exercise has shown to reduce strength and power.
What we are suggesting here is stretching for increased mobility. I.e if you could only pull a bow and arrow back half way vs pulling it back all the way.
What you would also want to do if you did improve this mobility is couple it with power rotation exercises to help you rotate your body back quickly to get back to your ideal hitting point for a smash.
Great insight into the theory of the initial part of smash power. I’m looking forward to seeing the next video on how the range of motion interacts with technique and most importantly timing to generate the power everyone seeks 💪
Thanks for the positive feedback 👍
much of what i see and hear said about smash these days seems part of a viral pandemic of wrong teaching, but i think you guys are right on the money re mechanics and offer good suggestions to prepare the body. especially valuable mechanical points are 1) giving your racket head the time and distance to generate velocity, and 2) isolating the hips from the upper body so that there are 2 stages of developing kinetic energy, a slightly slower and deeply muscular lower stage starting with the legs, and a higher much less muscular and explosively accelerating stage in the upper body
i also agree if you try to describe too many elements of smash the lesson falls apart. smash in badminton is nothing less than a fine kinetic art, and truth is, no matter how good your coach you find the keys on your own
Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed comment.
It’s sometimes an area that can be made over complicated, there are obviously lots of contributing factors that add power but sometimes you need to work on the ones that provide the biggest percentage.
But if you watch carefully his grip is wrong. So is also wrong teaching 😂
@@kunal_p84 @kunalpatel8151 when you say something is wrong or right, it's not worth much if you dont explain why you are saying that. if you want to improve your badminton you need to get out of your imagination and into the facts. if you think watching 'carefully' shows there's a problem with the grip then please tell us the exact time-stamp where we can see this wrong grip and describe what is wrong about the grip and why it's wrong so we can learn from what you call your 'careful' observations
Observe the grip at 8:13. The thumb is clearly touching the index finger. This is common mistake when you try to grip to hard. The correct fore hand grip has a clear separation between thumb and index finger . Also look at the thumbnail picture. Thumb is touching the index finger. I didn't just comment without observing. You probably don't want to accept you are wrong in fear of loosing credibility or too much work to make
Observe the grip at 8:13. The thumb is clearly touching the index finger. This is common mistake when you try to grip to hard. The correct fore hand grip has a clear separation between thumb and index finger . Also look at the thumbnail picture. Thumb is touching the index finger. I didn't just comment without observing. You probably don't want to accept you are wrong in fear of loosing credibility or too much work to make
At the stage of newbie
I can see that my friend who have flexibility on shoulder, more ROM tend to smash better
Holding hand behind the back with shoulder curve in is the easiest example of great shoulder mobility
Thanks for the comment, we hope the video helps with your smash 😀
Great video and really informative
Thank you!
Very useful! 👍
Thanks very much 😀
Great video guys. The exercises are extremely useful.
Thanks, pleased you found the exercises useful, let us know how you get on with them 👍
stretching video disguised as a badminton tutorial 😅
ofc flexibility is important but 1:42 saying its not about physical strength is a huge understatement
As we mentioned in the video, we appreciate range of motion isn’t an exciting topic but a very under rated topic that can really aid in adding power to a smash.
Most of the top badminton players aren’t built like bodybuilders, they do however have great technique, racket head speed and a consistent contact in the middle of the racket, these are the areas we feel players should be focusing on in generating more power in the smash.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and commenting.
Love the stretching exercises to improve the range of motion - more please!
Will do! Thanks for watching
I am going to try the stretches . Thanks.
You’re welcome 😊 we hope they help.
What a smashing video! 💪👍
Glad you liked it!
I think if you guys could focus on perfecting the swing, it would be super helpful. A lot of newer players don’t have a good swing or even know where to start 😊
We can look into this for sure. Thanks for the suggestion 👍
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Thanks for the comment
Great tips as always especially since most videos don't cover stretches and exercises that help with your smash.
When smashing from the floor should the front leg come off the floor before the body rotation as you hop between one foot to the other?
Pleased you enjoyed it! 😀
We feel the front foot would stay more in contact with the floor, this means it’s easier for you to shift your bodyweight forward using the front foot as a base.
@@TheBadmintonZoneHQ The men's doubles I watch always jump smash, but the women's doubles players I watch seem to bring their front foot up slightly *just before* to load weight onto the back leg before quickly shifting it forward for their smashes. And since my students are much less athletic and shorter I figured them learning how to smash from the floor would be better at this point. (They are only 13 years old). Is this faulty?
@@zmollon yes we understand what you mean now, yes a weight transfer from back leg to front leg is also great for adding power.
It’s never a bad idea to break things down for younger students, working on power on the floor will make things easier for them to understand the dynamics. Then once happy you can start to add the jump.
@@TheBadmintonZoneHQsorry for badly explaining the first time. Thank you for your response and all that you do. Have a wonderful day
PLease explain pronation in a dedicated video
and why in the professional bwf smashes slow motions the rackets gets fully turned in opposite direction but the shuttle goes straight is it because of pronation?
Yes forearm pronation plays a part in being able to add power to the smash, this can also be the case when intercepting a shuttle at the net, particularly on the round the head side. We can look into this for sure in the future. Thanks for the comment, we hope you found the video useful.
Eh I’ve heard either side of the coin for whether or not a jump adds power. My theory is that it does because you’re adding the gravity of your falling body into it as well. And the new Guinness record for fastest smash was a jump one if I recall correctly
the jump is an essential element of smash but it does not add power. it adds steepness and also earliness, both of which make defense more difficult. sometimes jumping allows you to intercept the shuttle before it has lost its energy, and this also enhances power. the gravitational effect you mention is theoretically present but its effect is negligible
@@rb-exwell written response
We would agree with the comment above. The jump is also a very important aspect of the smash as it adds angle to the shot which means the return has to be in an upward direction allowing you to hopefully stay on the attack easier.
The mention of gravity is interesting but due to it being a force acting in a downwards direction and smash power needing forward motion we don’t think it adds anything to the shot.
Thanks for taking the time to comment, we enjoy being able to interact with our viewers 👍
Interesting that you don't say much about hips and legs? Much of our power is also generated by the rotation through our back, hips and from our legs and the combination of the total movement and the transfer of that kinetic energy into the shuttle. And how does this translate into if and how jumping adds power. Your thoughts, guys?
They focus on two parts of the swing as explained at 10.15. They are not trying to explain every single detail.
Thanks for your comment! We decided we didn’t want to try and cover too many areas as not to over complicate it. So we chose a couple of key areas we see. You are right though, our legs and hips are so important in the transfer through the shot.
When we speak about mobility of the torso I think this links in well because we want to create a small lag between our hips firing and our torso coming through, which will equal a larger energy transfer.
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Hope this helps, let us know how you get on 💪👍
My fkn shoulder have issues
What’s this from if you don’t mind us asking?
Does higher string tension give more power in smash?
It’s mainly to give you more control but it also makes the sweet spot smaller. Pros tend to have their rackets strung tighter as they are able to fit the sweet spot consistently.
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He's put a dent in the floor 😂
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Too much talking bruv
Thanks for the feedback
Watched the whole video. Your grip is wrong in all demonstrations. Use a handshake like grip will also improve your smash. You might want to change the thumbnail too it shows wrong grip too.
The grip was a forehand grip (handshake grip as you describe). The slow motion clip shows this at around 1.18 as you can see the forearm rotation needed to square the racket up which is needed with the forehand grip.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Observe the grip at 8:13. The thumb is clearly touching the index finger. This is common mistake when you try to grip to hard. The correct fore hand grip has a clear separation between thumb and index finger . Also look at the thumbnail picture. Thumb is touching the index finger. I didn't just comment without observing. You probably don't want to accept you are wrong in fear of loosing credibility or too much work to make another video.
Observe the grip at 8:13. The thumb is clearly touching the index finger. This is common mistake when you try to grip to hard. The correct fore hand grip has a clear separation between thumb and index finger . Also look at the thumbnail picture. Thumb is touching the index finger. I didn't just comment without observing. You probably don't want to accept you are wrong in fear of loosing credibility or too much work to make
@@kunal_p84observe it again, when you zoom in, you see the white grip.
@@kunal_p84you realise lcw hit smashes with this finger grip, it's almost a hammer grip. Speak to lcw about correctness 😂