This Might Be My Dream Capture Card.. the AVerMedia Live Gamer DUO
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Imagine a capture card with a camlink built right into it. A single card picks up both your gameplay AND your camera.. but is it any good?
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Be real with me, what capture card is the perfect one for your setup right now?
How does this only have one like. Btw love your channel. Helped me out a lot
4K Pro Mk. 2 !!!!!!!!!
4K Pro MK. 2
I honestly don’t know, probably one that works for more than 3 months :/
I use a hd60 pro just cause 1080p 60fps is all I need for my dual pc set up or my console if I wanna hook it up... I have ZERO issues tbh.
Ah, so this is what he was so excited about while complaining about his water cooling setup.
Proof this is a personality channel ;)
6:38 Of couse you couldn't put all the way in, you're trying to put a PCI-E 4x card on a PCI-E 1x slot. It won't phisically fit.
regardless i did actually have the same exact issue and now i am pretty much blocking air flow to my 2070 super.So for some people this info could be a huge help.
I was looking at that as well and I’m like hold up... is he trying to put a PCI-E 4x card into a 1x Slot???! Like m8 that won’t fit no matter what you try 😂
Dude. a PCIE 4X is compatible with PCIE 1X.
Hell. a PCIE 16x card will work with a PCIE 1X. It will work as bad as it sound but it will work.
It's just that some motherboard have stupid PCIE placement
My SO gets so annoyed that I keep all the boxes from electronics. I don't even know why I keep them. My brain just says I need to.
I still have the box my 65' 4k TV came in from 2 years ago. Lol Seriously, it's unnecessary that I've done so. Lol
Super good if you plan to sell something.
Makes reselling much easier
Hay Harris I love companies actually actively getting in contact with people like you and ask what streamers/content creators ACTUALLY want and need! That says a lot about the company.
been using an AVermedia PCie card for a while now, and i'm absolutely stoked on it, i don't see it mentioned often at all, and it may not be the case for the Duo, but they require no drivers, literally slot it in, and everything is recognised in OBS as it should be... it was a big selling point for me, and i don't believe i've downloaded a single driver for it in the multiple years i've been running mine...
I am happy to see Harris from 2k to 345k subs, amazing and inspiring! Keep it rolling my dude!
HurricaneTurtle lets do 1M nowww
Yeah, same here. Started following him when he had like 105K subs. We´ll hit 500K soon at this pace!
It's the video that just keeps giving. So many easter eggs on previous streams and videos answered.
He Seems to know his stuff he should make a TH-cam Channel stream tips
Yeah to help us get started. He should also stream on twitch for us to ask him questions
@Aviation Alex @@flyingpiglet4698 He does know his stuff, and he does stream on twitch for that exact reason :))
Dude I would totally watch every video
is that wade r/wooosh
@@IsThatWade r/woooosh
Love this card just bought it after watching the video and i just had few motherboard issues but was totally my fault. Fixed and WOW! Amazing product. Thanks for the review as always guys
Hah! Only 2 minutes in and I am commenting... "... Hate to throw away boxes..." so this is me. I still have my ps4 boxes, tv boxes, all of the phones I've ever purchased... Original laptop boxes starting from oh 20 years ago lol, earbud, headset, watches, digital temperature gun, routers, modems, etc... Mostly electronics related tbh.
I've moved several times and they've come with me. I figured out a way to make them less of a mess... Get one large box, at least 2x3 or close... And fit em all in like a jigsaw puzzle... Helps with the ocd aspect 😊
When Harris says "I'm not gonna take credit"
It gives me the same feeling as people who come into chat, tell me they just finished streaming or that they are going to stream, then proceed to tell me "I'm not promoting".
Like the exact same feeling.
That’s because it IS the exact same thing 😂
We need to talk about this oversized T shirt.
That shirt is fabulous. 🤙
LOL You DO pay attention to detail.
I love how patchwork it is!
Oversized shirts are cool (not because I wear them)
We need to find the origin of this shirt.
12:12 "like we did in this video"
literally points at nothing
How is it with tearing? Feel like elgato 4K gives a lot of tearing and duolicate frames
Epos Vox covered the technical side better. He covers tearing in length.
Holy widdz. My favorite Swedish person :) I need that elgado that cost 399euros. So Console Ps5 and that card are about same prize almost... I need both. I am buying that card for Ps4 pro anyway so...
@@villeviilee7331 dude just wait out on the ps5 if it costs too much. It's going to be hard to get for a couple of weeks post launch and there will be more games later on. The capture card will hold up for awhile.
So happy I found this video while searching dual capture cards. I have a 3 pc setup (racing rig, streaming pc and gaming pc} so having 2 inputs that are both 1080/60 on 1 card could be exactly what I need. I don't use the outputs anyway so only having one doesn't matter to me.
Great video, again. This is pretty damn close to what I'm looking for as well.
Funny you mention that zoom issue with the Aver card. I get that with a 4k60 Mk.II. Literally the exact thing. I alt+tab out of any game and it's zoomed on my Win 10 stuff. Also, my cursor is much bigger than what my Win settings are.
I, however, didn't know that scaling setting exists in Win monitor settings so I will check that out and see if that fixes for me.
You can tell he’s pumped for the capture card when he makes the sponsor that short
I love the B-roll footage of you fitting the card during the header complaint. *Imagine there's a PCI Slot there*
New design categorization. Industrial elegance.
On one hand I like opening nice boxes. On the other, I hate all the waste. I just bought a set of bookshelf speaker and stands and so have a dozen boxes sitting in my vestibule since I can't throw any of them out until the 30 day return has passed.
Touching everything with no static strap ( screams in repair tech) lol. Great video
I too hate to throw away boxes.. so this is my system- anything that has a warranty I keep the box for with a sticker dating the box to see when I can throw the box out- and I keep pretty boxes for storage item/ display
For Nintendo games the elgato hd capture card works great, want to do more PC games but will need to start a new channel for that since my audience is mostly Nintendo exclusives fans on my main channel, I built the budget PC alpha gaming recommended and it works great for streaming and playing at 1080p 60fps, it was a bit more expensive because of the price gougers, cost about 150 more, but now it's pretty insane where prices are now!!!
Omg, this sounds like a life saver. I’m running a 4k60 pro and a hd60 pro. Just built a lancool2 mesh rig, running 2 fans as intake from the psu shroud, needless to say, it is cramped from the gpu down.
Worth the wait. All they have to do now is make it an external unit.
Very soon i will be building a new PC and have been looking for a capture card to put in it. This one will be perfect for that!!! I need a cam link and my capture card currently is dated. thank you so much for your review, love ur content, and keep up the great work Harris!!
When you see those guys of owned.tv the next time, tell them that too much advertisement actually damages their brand and that I hate them for their ad inflation.
I was just thinking the same thing. Every alpha gaming video is sponsored by own3d now everytime I hear him talk about it I close the video it was only because this was about a capture card that I stayed
i totally agree, but the sad thing is they earn more money that way ;)
@@taylerzc1 Wait...so, when he mentions his sponsor, you stop watching the video? Wtf? You know you could just, skip forward until after the ad? Do you not know you can fast forward?
I just wanna say, harris we all love you, we want the best for you, but obviously some people are just jealous cuz you are successful, don't worry man we support you
I just need this, with 4k 30 fps for the camera
it clearly needs a backplate because you keep putting your fingers all over the PCB. D:
i was thinking the same thing xD
So say for a multi-camera stream - wouldn't this device work to replace 2x camlinks, for instance? Opening up to USB-slots, being built-in and all.
It could, just one slot would be underutilized. Wouldn't be much of a purpose for the 1440/4k high refresh passthrough for a camera.
Thanks for the video. I'm working on upgrading my pc and thought about moving to a different capture card. This is enticing.
Welp, not buying a Camlink anymore. I was going to upgrade to an internal capture card (I'm on a Live Gamer Extreme atm) relatively soon. Now, I don't mind selling off my LGX and picking this one up.
I've been using Avermedia for years now and I can testify that their website and apps are horrendous. The cards I've used (LGX and LGP) did the job well enough but had issues at times. My LGX these days has been giving me an "out of range" screen. I need to unplug and replug the USB cable to get the game feed back online. It could be a driver thing (bad ecosystem = user never notified of driver updates). Overall, though, all tech has its issues and their products have never given me severe problems. I will buy the Duo with confidence.
And again I end up with watching the unboxing of things that I will never could be able to afford. Congrats, P3rs0n4l1ty, you nailed it
This is a really cool idea, I was really hoping it was a dual in and out card since that would have been perfect for my setup but thinking about it that card would be so specific to people that have multiple systems they use. This 2 in one out does actually make a lot more sense though. Most quality cards are so close to the price already it’d be pointless to not at least grab it Incase you ever want to run another input, it opens the door for so much customization opportunities at better prices and less clutter. Honestly could see myself picking this up in the future.
Any release date?
Bro. The scrolling colors on the led are not a big deal lmao ...at heart I think you just might be an interior designer or even a hair stylist
5:50 - Catching some strong Zach Morris vibes here.
This would be an absolute dream... I have the budget camlink, but I also have to get an Elgato 4k60 for gameplay if I wanna use my DSLR.
Still using the 4k passthrough one of Avermedia, I don't play any more consoles so I dont think a lot of people would buy it unless for future proof purposes. (ofc depending on its price)
I really wanted to love this card but the card went tits up in 6 months.
Such a great card to, literally filled every single need. But this is the second Avermedia CArd I have had to deal with that went bad, and I can't have a piece of hardware I have to worry about all the time.
No 4k60 capture for TH-cam content is a bust for me. We're going to have the PS5 and Xbox Series X hindered by this.
Of course I just ordered a capture card last night anddddddd he drops this.
I hear you man, i just got the 4k live gamer a few days ago, lol. At least i don't really need the 2nd input, but it would have been nice to have.
If you already use camlink, you can use extra port for a 2nd console.
when I see $199 and I'm like "oh thats not too bad" and then I look in canadian $325 with taxes *crys in poor*
Kills me every time
how dont you have more than a mil subs the content is second to none keep it up
The real champ of this video is your shirt.
“I couldn’t put it all the way in” 🤣
I think something like this, but in a portable version such as that elgato one that allows you to capture with an sd card would be so nice. Going to a LAN party or event or something like that and being able to capture both gameplay and a camera would be really nice for content creators. Something else that would be awesome, but I don’t know if it’s even possible, would be to be able to capture a microphone input. Then content creator could go to events and make full videos out of it
You didn't mention the issue with ultrawide screens that EposVox pointed out! There are some people who will be absolutely disappointed.
Blackmagic makes a few duo and quad hdmi input cards. no pass through, but really good quality.
I think it's important for everyone who is interested in buying this to know that the card only supports HDMI 2.0. So while it will work with your next gen consoles it will not be able to pass through it's full throughput of HDMI 2.1 standard
Where did you get those cool lights in the background?
Outstanding!! Be looking for this card.
I got a Avermedia LGHD2 2 weeks ago and still trying to get this to work. This is the most frustrating piece of tech I have EVER owned.
It looks very good. Not sure why it would need to be any more robust than any other internal card that's screwed inside a computer case that never moves. That card would not plug into the lowest pcie slot anyway. It requires a pcie x4 and the lowest is a x1. Maybe I'm wrong?
Oh is this the product you were talking about that you had to blur?
It's possible that the capture card was cutting out due to a surplus of FPS in game. Other streamers have had this issue and it can usually be solved by capping your game at something like 300fps or so.
that bottom slot you were trying looks like a x1 slot and the card looks like an x4. Maybe its just the video angle but it looks like the wrong slot.
ive asked for this for soooo long !! im so happy. so many emails!
I tend to set my monitors to the scaling setting I want instead of using scaling at all. For instance, on my 4K monitor, instead of setting it to 4k at 150%, I just set the monitor to 2560x1440. I get more frames, reduce the load on my GPU, and I don't have to worry about scaling settings screwing anything up. I have an image I made to help with that, but, uh, I need to find a way to link it? Whatever. It works.
Deets:
8k @ 150% = 5120x2880 | 200% = 2840x2160 (4K)
4k @ 150% = 2560x1440 (1440p) | 200% = 1920x1080 (1080p)
1440p @ 150% = 1707x960 (weird) | 200% = 1280x720 (720p)
1080p @ 150% = 1280x720 (720p) | 200% = 960x540 (why?)
I believe that this card is a good idea but overall Elgato is just better with it becoming dummy proof. I love my Elgato 4k60Pro and my cam link, I would prefer those cards over this one. I know its about preference but overall I would still recommend Elgato
I would love this. Cant understand why Elgato didnt make their cards two-way, so one could use both screen capture/from a console, and a camera input. To play on your computer screen.
This AverMedia-card would be possible to hook up two cameras too.
What device has a two way HDMI port? sounds expensive
@@MrML4L two way as in you could choose either 1in/1out or 2in
Okay. Liked the video once he said he hates throwing away boxes. I thought I was alone.
which capture card would you recommend for entry level streamers with little knowledge?
try orange and purple for the lighting in the back
Dude the size of that thing is insane. Frankly the 4k60 being so small has spoiled me. Also man, I just find Elgato's software to work just fine so... yeah not for me.
That's one Cool device!
But I wish it was a live gamer 4k for gaming with a hd2 onboard for cam
I'm running both, and wish they'd combined those
Love your videos man! I have a serious question, most like a dumb question. Pass through a are only for consoles right? All you need to do when using dual PC is use the input for the capture card to link the 2 PC. Idk why I’m coming up on a brain fart with this pass through. I have the 60pro and I still get my 180hz on my monitor and still capture 1080p @60 to stream. So I’m lost on what else pass through is for besides console. Help me out if you the answer! Thanks!
I wish the consumer market is also standardized on HD-SDI. So much better than HDMI
You would publish this on the day I purchased a 4K60 Pro Mk2. Haha
I realy like the GoPro Stand
Hey, I just watched the PC Milking video earlier today! Perfect timing
Why are you complaining when you are putting a 4x card into a 1x slot? That might also cause issues with capturing. Use the correct 4x slot for a 4x card. That will solve a lot of issues.
You really don't need PCIe 3 4x Bandwidth for 1080p recording. A single lane can do 7880 Mbps, meanwhile my 4k60 Pro Mk2 from Elgato only uses 140 Mbps to record 4k60 with HDR. That leaves so much spare bandwidth that even this card having multiple 1080p captures and whatever overhead is not going to max it out.
@@CenturionAlexander I understand the bandwidth. It's not just that. If the card worked perfectly at 1x why would they design it on a 4x pcb? It must have something to do with communication or avoid PLX chips or not putting the capture card through the chipset. It might solve other issues that people have with these things.
@@glassd any of a million reasons unrelated to performance. Economies of scale (4x pcb's are about the most common in the world and thus while taking slightly more resources they tend to be a lot cheaper than the more exotic 1x and 8x ones), reverse compatibility with gen 2, 1.1 and 1.0 boards, slightly more stability because by virtue of the larger contact there's less sagging, the list goes on. To take a relevant example, the RTX 2080 Ti is the first consumer GPU that managed to exhaust the PCIe 3.0 8X standard (it is the first GPU that actually scored a higher FPS going to 16X instead of just sticking with 8X). This means that Nvidia and AMD have been pushing out 16X cards for nearly a decade when performance wise there was literally no need.
@@CenturionAlexander A lot of this information is untrue. There are a ton of 1x cards. Sound cards, Network cards. This list goes on. 1x cards would be the cheapest to produce. The traces and gold plated contacts are the most expensive part of producing PCBs. As for the graphics cards not needing 16x. There are a lot of cases I can prove that wrong. Certain games and applications require more bandwidth than let's say CS:GO or whatever people use to test. This isn't a 1 speed fits all situation at all. There are many reasons that more bandwidth can be required. Including crossfire/SLI. Like I was saying there must have been a reason they went with a 4x card instead of a 1x that aren't going to be limited to the direct bandwidth of the video streams.
So is this just a fancy HD60 or a lower version of 4k . I mean, this is a super tough call actually, considering i had both .Even recording in 1080 on both the quality of the 4k is 10 times better. My stream looks better. My 1st thought was i have to have this card , but it might be a downgrade in quality to add a camera. It will be fantastic for people that don't have a card at all and have a camera that will work. And regardless if both cards recording and streaming at same settings i see the difference in quality with the 4k there is no way i could or would EVER downgrade to HD60 quality again no matter what they add to the card.
About the flashback recording. Don't you use an Nvidia card? I'm asking because this has that exact functionality built in.
Heads up there is a way to flashback record in OBS so if you want that feature you can still make this card work.
i gave the like just for the "girth" >__> that made me laugh so much haha
Can you do a video on how to stream using Sony zv1? I have questions about battery life or using a dummy battery
Gotta admit. I am a pretty big fan of avermedia capture cards myself. I use the AverMedia Live Gamer Portable
Literally my biggest fear and stressor...having to take apart a custom liquid cooling rig for a new component to fit... Jesus Christ. I would have just used another pc lol. I salute you sir.
Damnit..still no display port 😩
I have a single pc stream set up currently with a cam link and an internal hd60... IF I ever move to a dual pc set up a multi input capture card would be BEAUTIFUL.
Haven’t even seen the video yet but the intro makes me think take my money NOW!!!
Was this the reason you had to move the liquid cooling over one slot?
YEASSSSSSS!
Creo que esta hecha pensando en el futuro 👌me agrada la propuesta, habrá que ver las calidades de imagen
You can never go wrong with a good box!
The 4k Elgato and this card are exactly the same price everywhere I search for them online. I do not see this card for any lower price, so that kind of undoes the price hype on it.
Back when I got my AVerMedia Live Gamer 4K it wasn't for the 4K but for wonky resolutions by an OSSC linemultiplying retro consoles. Dos the new card handle those?
Harris said girth 😮
personally i want lower costing ones, maybe if elgato or aver media made like a 1080p30fps 720p60fps one, or just kept older models on sale at reduced prices, cos basically Australian streamers only sub $300 option is a camlink at $129 and at that point you might as well go all the way down and pick up that $20 knockoff that words the exact same
EDIT: or like idk just fix the issue with pricing and availability (no its not pandemic i remember in 2016 when i wanted to be a cringe minecraft youtuber cap cards were still like double the cost to what americans pay)
blackmagic has made these for a long time now, right? i've had a quad decklink in my rig for awhile now ....
I can relate I hate throwing away boxes too
hahah Sam at the end! its why we love em!
Imagine having a company listen to you and making a product from what you want
Harris I see you get a few other sponsors but you’ll always go back to own3d.tv gg
Ha! Called it!
Hahahaha throwing away boxes. I have a garage full of boxes my wife wants me to throw away!