3 Super Common Twitch Practices That Are KILLING Streaming Careers

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  • @Senpai
    @Senpai  4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Which one of these do you agree with most? Which do you disagree with most?

    • @KJBazzy
      @KJBazzy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      the starting soon screen. Just depends how long they go on for. 10 minutes MAX but if its about 5 mins I think it's ok but I also think why not just go live and not sit and wait just get the show started. if a tv show is scheduled at 10pm do we tune it and watch a starting soon screen for 10 mins.. no. although it's usually a little recap of the previous episode/season. Theres some streamers that have ridiculously long starting soon screen times though.. I've known some to be 45 minutes.. and more it was a podcast/ talk show and they was "waiting for the guests to join"

    • @chosen1pr23
      @chosen1pr23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Honestly I'm disappointed with this video.

    • @chef_moquin9535
      @chef_moquin9535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I 100% agree with the going live tweet, especially if that person streams almost every day, I have muted people on twitter because of that. I have to watch what you say about starting soon screens in the other video, but I do I disagree with the twitch pre rolls ads because I normally have multiple streams up at once that I switch between, so Ill keep the stream up and watch after the ad is done.

    • @SerJayr
      @SerJayr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely agree with the “going live” tweets bit. Unless it has some sort of engaging content within the tweet, its boring to look at and I’ll scroll past it. That being said, I wouldn’t mind trying Devin’s method of putting out these tweets then deleting them so that my TL isn’t plastered with these tweets.

    • @hjackson.92
      @hjackson.92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least there's a couple of ways of making "going live" tweets less painful (or not painful at all), one simply has to stop being so lazy about those. And Harris has just motivated me to figure out how to make those "starting soon" screens work. :-D (hint: I've seen Webinars draw people in 30 minutes - with something engaging - before they start.) In my opinion, the jury's out on logos at the moment (I personally don't care). So that leaves the bit about pre-roll and organizations. . . no argument from me on those.

  • @nathaniel6026
    @nathaniel6026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +592

    If the pre-roll ads weren’t 30 Second. I wouldn’t leave

    • @Kyosika
      @Kyosika 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Seriously, I swapped streams the other day. From Streamer A to B and back to A. I had to watch 2 ads which were both like 30 seconds. Really annoying

    • @malikonthesus
      @malikonthesus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kyosika ikr this happens always to me. It should be that ads on twitch streams should be a max of 15 seconds

    • @Allstin
      @Allstin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What are your thoughts of doing the midroll while AFK to stop prerolls for X amount of time?

    • @remoh4258
      @remoh4258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Allstin Personally I think that's fine as I can just go afk as well

    • @GabeWilliams
      @GabeWilliams 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's the thing, you can't really remove them. I wish I could.

  • @NateMegOfficial
    @NateMegOfficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    “If you wanna be an anomaly you have to act like one.”
    I know this was a throwaway line but it speaks volumes.

    • @slaycg2536
      @slaycg2536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I feel like it contradicts the core concept of their discussion though. It seems more like you have to do what works to get initial growth(ie not an anomoly) before you can afford to experiment with things that might make you one...

  • @SeaOtterGamer
    @SeaOtterGamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Audio quality being more important than video quality makes sense to me for two reasons. First, bad audio quality can be physically painful and people will click away ASAP. While bad video quality is a bit detrimental but people may still stay. Second, some people listen to Twitch in the background as they work so audio quality is 100% of the engagement.

    • @AtaraxyVAL
      @AtaraxyVAL 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tyler1 mic?

    • @OswinKG
      @OswinKG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AtaraxyVAL The exception

    • @RowanYetiLund
      @RowanYetiLund 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your ears are more easily offended than your eyes

    • @ternedo6074
      @ternedo6074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OswinKG tyler1 managed to make it his brand, it’d be wrong for him to use a good mic and it’d feel weird

    • @OswinKG
      @OswinKG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ternedo6074 I was saying he is the exception to the rule. He's a rare case of being able to make that part of his brand.

  • @CocktailsConsoles
    @CocktailsConsoles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    100% agree that pre-roll ads are killing streaming - people watching TV aren’t given an ad every time they change the channel

    • @erikeggenbakstad
      @erikeggenbakstad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very good point indeed. As we get bombarded with ads on any platform daily. So if we can choose to cansel one, we do 😉

    • @Purpetrat0r
      @Purpetrat0r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk, I feel like every time I go to change the channel on TV it's just more ads. But I do usually watch stuff online with 0 or reduced ads anyway.

    • @junehanabi1756
      @junehanabi1756 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's corporate greed, trust me if they could they would have implemented ads on every channel change a long time ago but because of the way tvs work that isn't possible. This hasn't stopped some providers from doing this to some VOD everytime you play it or online places like Hulu and such from displaying a ton of ads. It's corporate greed, the way ads work is to tell you to shuttup and listen to me because im the one with money to make you do that. It's very ineffective and dehumanizing, hardly anybody ever clicks or goes to those ads. The whole industry is stupid.

  • @gnernerferner
    @gnernerferner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I actually like the "Stream Starting Soon" panels -- at least when it comes to Twitch communities I'm a part of. It gives the community a quick chance to catch up in chat with eachother and say hi :)

    • @kendrabell5217
      @kendrabell5217 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kelsey same!

    • @hazonku
      @hazonku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      As an art streamer and as a movie streamer I find them 100% integral to the way I run my stream. Give folks a moment to settle in or grab a snack before the show or the chit chat.

    • @algi1
      @algi1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Okay, I have a tip for everyone who doesn't want to get rid of "starting soon" screens: Add a countdown. Seeing a countdown on screen makes the waiting way more bearable.

    • @bkk_foodlover3316
      @bkk_foodlover3316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If I see one, I'm likely to bounce. Maybe I'll come back, maybe I won't....not because I don't want to but I could get distracted by something else

    • @RowanYetiLund
      @RowanYetiLund 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I only use mine for like 2 minutes so I can make sure everything is working after I start up without me fumbling around live on screen.

  • @JayQwery
    @JayQwery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I wish that non-partners could disable pre-rolls.

  • @AmateurRadio
    @AmateurRadio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    If it's a stream I want to watch and I already know that, I usually sit through the preroll ad. But if it's an unknown stream I am checking out for the first time, I'd say 75% of the time I close the twitch browser tab and just watch youtube videos when I get the ad. I watch streamers I know and I REALLY have to be in a certain mood to have the patience to discover new streams because of it. It's almost like a punishment for not being subscribed, if you look at it. Twitch is taking too much from viewers. How about letting people check out streams before they get bombarded? It is common for me to check out 10-15 NEW youtube channels in a sitting. If I were to do this on twitch I have wasted upwards of 10 minutes watching ads, for something I dont even KNOW that I want to see. This is ridiculous and greedy. My time has value, but twitch doesn't think so. Maybe show an ad once they have watched long enough to be engaged? Novel idea. Oh wait. TH-cam did it first. 5 seconds then skip is do-able. A full 30 second ad every time you check out a stream is just greedy and punishes both the streamer and viewer.

    • @Zapling
      @Zapling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So true

    • @RetroRaconteur
      @RetroRaconteur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Spot on, right here. It helps the top streamers and really hurts folks with low view numbers trying to get discovered.

    • @catsen
      @catsen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This 🙌🏻

    • @Luke_81
      @Luke_81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1000%. Force me to watch an ad once I'm already engaged? Sure, thats cool. Make me watch an ad before i know if i even want to watch this? Nahhhhh

  • @xADEMAROx
    @xADEMAROx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A film friend of mine once said the difference between a Film and your personal family videos is sound. The reason why film stands out is you can close your eyes during a movie while sitting in the theatre and paint the picture with what you hear... THAT is WHY audio is so important

  • @abfielder
    @abfielder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I'm in the early stages of building my youtube channel and twitch stream and been watching your videos and trying to pick up tips and lessons from it. The twitter go live one was interesting, so I gave it a go tonight. Now obviously really small numbers...
    My previous "go live" tweet on Tuesday for 32 impressions 1 engagement. This was simply a link to my twitch page saying go live.
    Tonight's I included a picture of my minecraft base along with twitch link and going live. 33 impressions, 11 engagements.
    Quite the improvement. Seeing loud and clear that I am not using twitter correctly. Thank you for the video's and tips.

  • @Mayfired
    @Mayfired 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This should be made into a weekly pod cast. I love listening to these conversations.

  • @jamesrath
    @jamesrath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    when harris says "I don't think there are blind people watching this" I'm just out here living my best blind life 😎

  • @Flea
    @Flea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    This is by far your best type of content, keep it up👌💜

    • @collintm2967
      @collintm2967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Flea! Never knew u were a Harris Heller fan lol!

    • @lachlanlfc
      @lachlanlfc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      holy shit.you're my favourite creative fortnite youtuber and harris is my favourite tech/streaming advice youtuber. you watch him!

    • @zJhxnn
      @zJhxnn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did this content help double ur edit speed?

    • @buddywindex5844
      @buddywindex5844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty cool to know you're a Harris Heller fan too. Check dm on insta 👍🏼

    • @h.l.4798
      @h.l.4798 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      so did you double your editing speed by watching this?

  • @ayedhanpharmr11
    @ayedhanpharmr11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Pre-roll ads are an ez kill. Imagine that every time you switched the channel on your TV, it would play a 30 second ad. The viewership numbers would drop so fast

    • @Purpetrat0r
      @Purpetrat0r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would literally be the final nail in cable TVs coffin.

    • @ayedhanpharmr11
      @ayedhanpharmr11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Purpetrat0r exactly. I would watch so many more new streamers if I didn’t have to sit through an ad.

    • @Skyking549
      @Skyking549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is literally cable.

  • @FlorisApon
    @FlorisApon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The moment the pre roll ad comes I leave, sometimes I just close the whole app and just do something else

  • @TheDeadlyJedly
    @TheDeadlyJedly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your Content and friendgroup / streamer group seem so down to earth.
    Really appreciate having your voices as a streamer and content creator.
    Been a streamer for two years now and have been enjoying your advice throughout my journey.
    Keep it up harris.

  • @RageElixir
    @RageElixir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    In a years time Harris will be at a million

    • @kiefernobody
      @kiefernobody 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HOW ARE YOU EVERYWHERE - OTV, HARRIS, WHAT THE FUCK, I HAVEN'T WATCHED YOU SINCE I WAS 6

    • @goofycit0
      @goofycit0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's not 😭😭😭😭😭

    • @indranathmaiti2262
      @indranathmaiti2262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am from the future and sadly he didn't make it.😫😫😫😫

  • @KeyrunBenji
    @KeyrunBenji 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can confirm on the audio thing. Always considered that a must from speaking clearly to making it sound professional. Not just the quality but mastering too. Adding that impact to your sound without peaking

  • @NoxyYT
    @NoxyYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I wonder if preroll ads affect YT in the same way it does Twitch. Like is it better to remove preroll ads for YT?

    • @marslara
      @marslara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I don't imagine it has the same effect as people are so used to it on youtube

    • @brandonpersaud5634
      @brandonpersaud5634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Twitch content is live, while TH-cam content is paused while the ad is going

    • @Trashloot
      @Trashloot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And Twitch ads are loud as fuck! Seriously this is so annoying.

    • @Brismo7
      @Brismo7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, ad blocker gets rid of the prerolls. I wouldn't watch youtube without an ad blocker.

    • @Trashloot
      @Trashloot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Brismo7 Well watching youtube content without an adblocker supports the content creators. Its just the easiest way. You could donate or buy youtube premium to support them but watching a 5 second ad is way easier.

  • @glukki
    @glukki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to watch full VOD to hear about "Starting Soon Screens", and that was a great discussion! Guys, you're so cool! 8)

  • @heatfan785
    @heatfan785 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Is there a vod for this? Would love to see the whole thing!

    • @aduj
      @aduj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      believe it will be in his twitch archives

    • @jacoblindsey6888
      @jacoblindsey6888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      www.twitch.tv/videos/640271698 Devin comes in around the 3 hour 15 minute mark, but the whole thing is great!

    • @TacoRemixx
      @TacoRemixx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jacob Lindsey not all heros wear capes

    • @VictorPitstop
      @VictorPitstop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TacoRemixX they usually wear tight-tights though.

  • @LZONE4
    @LZONE4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Twitting "going live tweets" text only will actually hurt your engagement 100% if you have a small following. All social medias, twitter, IG, etc just focus on pages that will generate them ad revenue. So if you have 200 followers and tweet text only chance of them viewing it will be high, but the chance of them giving the post a favorite , liking or res posting is slim. So if Instagram, twitter, sees that you're not getting engagements, what they will start to do is "shadowban" your post so that it doesn't get exposure, which means that only a certain amount of followers will now see your post instead of all your followers . The only expectations are big streamers/ people with a BIG Following because if they have 500,000 followers and only 130,000k people see their post there is still going to be 3k-6k people liking it etc. Do not post random things, going live text or anything that isnt going to grab someones attention if you're a smaller page with little following it will 100% hurt you.

    • @personaljit
      @personaljit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how would you say is a good way of advertising your stream but maxing out engagements?

  • @MeMarcoG
    @MeMarcoG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MORE OF THESE. Devin is a great dude and these are such informative chats for a small streamer!

  • @prosperigeek
    @prosperigeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seriously appreciate the value, Devin and Harris! You guys are awesome, and I'm super pumped to get my new gaming channel up to teach people how to succeed on TH-cam, which they can use for their own streams and what not. Love ya man. Keep up the awesome value! Thank you!

  • @pwelsh6501
    @pwelsh6501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If this was a podcast I’d listen to every minute of it!

  • @RetroRaconteur
    @RetroRaconteur 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pre-roll ad bit is a really good discussion and something I've battled with. One thing I've been doing lately is using my start screen - sorry, Harris :-) - to run a 90-second ad, which then disables pre-rolls for 30 minutes. Then after running the ad is when I let people know I'm live on discord, twitch, etc. As Devin says, I wish they'd remove pre-roll ads completely, but they especially should for streamers with low viewer numbers.

  • @Raratoman
    @Raratoman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love you and Devin talking twitch and TH-cam, I gotta stop by one of these days when you guys collab if you do it again! (Hopefully no pre roll ad lol) if you uploaded this as a vid I’d prolly watch the whole thing

  • @thehowtochannel612
    @thehowtochannel612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This dude in the video looks like the alien guy from the history channel 😂

    • @rasputinspimp9043
      @rasputinspimp9043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he even is in the green mothership

    • @o7juan
      @o7juan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe at first glance 😂

  • @TimProVision
    @TimProVision 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not going to lie, I really despise pre-roll ads. As a small streamer I feel really stuck. Do I run ads more often in my stream? Hurting those that are already viewing the stream, so I can attract new viewers? Or do I not run ads, and then all new viewers have to sit through an ad to watch... AHHHHHHHH. What y'all think?😅

    • @artbyact
      @artbyact 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm in the same boat, but I think running a mid roll ad a couple minutes after you start the stream is the way to go. And then at least 1-2 ads every hour

  • @blt_buddyboy6287
    @blt_buddyboy6287 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simple hack for pre-roll ads just close the stream and reopen it until there is no ad, and that takes less than 30 seconds.

  • @MediocreSix
    @MediocreSix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Harris: Content content CONTENT CONTENNNNNT!!!
    Me: But what is this video trying to say to me?

  • @draco585
    @draco585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So true I even leave when there’s an ad😂😂

  • @nathanielfoo96
    @nathanielfoo96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    16:50 i think what Harris is saying is that would you rather watch something with (1080p with shit crackling audio) or (360p with perfect audio) as an example.

    • @junruluo4821
      @junruluo4821 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simple: Get a shitty pc and use the saved up money for a nice audio setup.

  • @UniqueGeese
    @UniqueGeese 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that this stream clearly wasn't prearranged or scripted. I love that they had different opinions about the tweets but they talked it out and discussed it properly.

  • @AntonioRedgrave
    @AntonioRedgrave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always run an ad when I'm taking a break and put on the be right back screen and some music. It gets rid of the pre roll ads briefly and no one is missing anything important because it's a be right back screen

  • @Talmerak
    @Talmerak 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are some awesome conversations, great for thinking about content, but also hearing two great minds bounce off one another

  • @Spycobra004
    @Spycobra004 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man i just found your channel a few weeks ago. Thank you for putting good stuff out in the wild. Appreciate the hard work

  • @ronishastroud8891
    @ronishastroud8891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pre-roll ads i sometimes stay. But i left one time just yesterday bc i saw a mid roll and with 1 out of 7 ads. That is 6 to many ads.

  • @robgregoryphotography826
    @robgregoryphotography826 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    About the discussion of is audio or video more important. I am a commercial director and yes, audio is more important for online content. People will watch a video with crappy video quality, but they will not watch a video where the audio is painful to their ears.
    BUT to your question, would you rather be blind or deaf... I would rather be deaf. 100%.
    I am actually a two time cancer survivor but the chemo made me lose a lot of my hearing function on the high end. That said, I get around just fine without any hearing aids or anything. If I lost my vision that would not be the case. So I am definitely firmly in the "would rather lose my hearing" camp, as someone with some experience in the matter. Haha. Keep up the great content man.

  • @ShayK47
    @ShayK47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about a Transformation Series which shows how you have helped somebody starting out, the advice you've given them, what they did well / not so well, and the result, say after a year. Like how a Personal Trainer posts before and now pics of their clients. It may take 6 months to a year to analyse, but I think would make for great content and lessons to be learned by us all. Even say taking a complete beginner who is willing to put the time in, and say they get to 10-20 average viewers + a good social following.

  • @MeticulousTechTV
    @MeticulousTechTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a good conversation. Wish these two would do more of these!

  • @overstrand
    @overstrand 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are incredibly helpful topics. We have you both to thank for this information!

  • @Sevo-
    @Sevo- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man when audio standard transition from headphone mics to USB or condenser mics was such a beautiful time for humanity, my ears only bleed 25% of the time now.

  • @KieronGamesX105
    @KieronGamesX105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I gotta be honest, your videos have helped me out a lot man. I hadn't streamed for years as I was worried about wasting my time, focused on making videos for me and my friends. But about a month ago, I picked it back up and I put your advice to good use. Streamed daily for a solid week and got affiliate, now I'm doing a set schedule and the people who helped me get there are still tuning in for every stream and it's all thanks to your advice. Thank you so much ❤️

  • @leonardolaurence6686
    @leonardolaurence6686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Harris: Don't tweet that you're live.
    Other guy: yeah 100%
    Harris: Tweet that you're live
    Other guy: I agree 100%

  • @GMDGeek
    @GMDGeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They need to toss the pre-roll ads - once I made affiliate and all of a sudden had those occurring regularly I had a ton of people asking whats up with the ad...

  • @basedsilly
    @basedsilly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Devin is one of my favorite streamers. It’s great to see u guys together!

  • @BKDDY
    @BKDDY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Looks as his Twitter
    90% posts are about Dr. Disrespect.
    Ok man....
    LOL

  • @knottybit5842
    @knottybit5842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't wait to watch the video, here to say I support the content you deliver!

  • @StormPow
    @StormPow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the dynamic you guys have. You're both so different but it works.

  • @P1ayerWun
    @P1ayerWun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I refreshed a stream I was watching by accident once and an ad came on and I left.

  • @TheWayOfShawn
    @TheWayOfShawn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly these are all valid points. A lot of it is along the lines of streamers don't know exactly where to go, so they do what is commonplace among popular streamers and rarely find their own voice, and along with that, they think to succeed, they have to be a part of something bigger than them, which (in the area of joining orgs, or large teams with no $$$, and no visibility) kill their viewability, and possibility for a career in streaming.

  • @AliDuke14
    @AliDuke14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am loving these videos! You and Devin give such great info, thank you .

  • @OpEditorial
    @OpEditorial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It takes genuine hard work and skill to make someone watching you play video games the highlight of their day

  • @MiradelleTarot
    @MiradelleTarot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me and a friend made my logo lol...I only just got affiliate so right now I am trying to just do everything on my own as much as I can because I know hiring an artist for emotes, overlays, logos, etc is costly. Might as well put the effort in to learn how to do it on your own so later when you CAN afford to pay someone you are able to actually have a proper discussion on what you want, and how you want it to be.
    ...also thanks to the insight and suggestions from this video, I disabled the pre-roll ads thing. I didn't even consider how annoying that probably is for someone. Glad I got another perspective on that so I can continue to improve ^^

  • @Leongon
    @Leongon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Logos... too many people put their logos as their profile picture" And are doing exactly that. :D

  • @RokuNyx
    @RokuNyx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with the preroll ad issue, I almost ALWAYS leave when a preroll plays - unless I'm watching a streamer which I've been watching for a long time. Same goes for starting soon screens.
    If I'm scrolling through looking for random streamers and get hit with a preroll or a starting soon screen, I'll just leave and either watch someone I like or watch TH-cam.
    The thing with the production quality standpoint, most small streamers don't have the funding to just go buy all the high-quality gear - but it isn't necessary, have a personality, stream using what you have, build an audience and then buy higher quality gear. There is no point in pumping hundreds to thousands of dollars into your streaming career when you haven't established footing for yourself.

  • @owishb0neonsightesports383
    @owishb0neonsightesports383 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something definitely overlooked that Alpha did in this video - prioritized scenes based on whose mic was picking up the conversation most. Absolute genius

  • @DeadReplicas
    @DeadReplicas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a new streamer (I have no illusions of granduer btw it's just a hobby) this is great advice and I've literally done everything on this list (all from reading beginners guides to Twitch)... It's quite the challenge to come up with a USP for your stream but definitely food for thought.... All of your videos are super helpful thanks for posting

  • @battlewhisk
    @battlewhisk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think there's an important point that was hit on towards the end. If it's a hobby, go all out on production quality if that's what makes you happy. Know that it isn't the key to make you a superstar streamer, but if it's making you happy, go for that SM7B and your DSLR. Have fun.

  • @ThunderDan88
    @ThunderDan88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cpt. Obvious statement, many might consider a eureka moment, High production value on a channel about "high production value" ...kinda important. Great stuff as always man (guys), thank you.

  • @TheRalphRoast
    @TheRalphRoast 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is so accurate. I will go to twitch and get slapped with 3mintues of ads and just get off go to mixer, youtube, anywhere else but there

  • @diehardGG
    @diehardGG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I disagree on the logo point, but in a different way. I think when you're starting out, a logo is something that is like a thought experiment. It gets your mind thinking... how do I want to brand myself and my stream, what kind of theme do I want? It's a waste if you pay a bunch of money for one, but if you have to go through the thoughts yourself, I think it is helpful and is a simple first step to taking streaming more seriously (albeit not much).

  • @nickchamberlin
    @nickchamberlin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I leave a twitch stream immediately if there's an ad before it. Then if I really want to check it out I start Chromecasting on twitch, then I click on the stream so I don't have to watch the ad.
    I don't watch twitch much, and I pay for TH-cam premium. If they had something like that, I'd probably get it for when I on occasion watch twitch.
    They should throw an ad in after something like 5 or 10 minutes of watching a steam. At that point I'm more likely to keep watching it because I'm more into the stream at that point.

    • @solidgun510
      @solidgun510 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Twitch does have something like that. It's call Twitch Turbo. www.twitch.tv/turbo

  • @TheJediNinja
    @TheJediNinja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm really digging these talks.

  • @gmunay420
    @gmunay420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Alpha Gaming cant find the video you mentioned something. Q:within streamlabs, how to turn off display?

  • @shinjidev
    @shinjidev 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the interesting discussion. I don't know if Twitch has changed something in pre-roll ads, but until recently, while you were jumping between channels, you didn't have to watch an ad, it looked like you have a cooldown until the next preroll ad appears for you. Nowadays, almost every time I switch channels, I see a preroll. Looks like they are becoming more aggressive in their ad strategy?

  • @JoshMono_
    @JoshMono_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that your seperating these outside your stream

  • @awehcollctive
    @awehcollctive 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so useful since I'm in the process of setting up my Twitch streams!!! Thanks so much!!

  • @rollswithadvantage7679
    @rollswithadvantage7679 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro! I absolutely loved this stream! Such a great discussion. So much to take away from the collective genius.

  • @garrettmcnutt5752
    @garrettmcnutt5752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yo Harris, I'm a little late on this video and this comment is most likely gonna get lost but you've helped me grow my channel so much. I've only been streaming for 3 months now and just got to Affiliate last week and already have 22 subscribers. I really can't thank you enough for all the advice you give. Too bad you probably won't see this comment but I just wanted to post it anyway.

    • @CatGuy969
      @CatGuy969 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      PogChamp dude

  • @johnkelly8688
    @johnkelly8688 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phenomenal content. Can't wait to get these going

  • @ST34ZY
    @ST34ZY 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing I love about this is is makes me question everything I have been doing. Thank you!

  • @GarageZeitgeist
    @GarageZeitgeist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am curious what the 5th topic will be :D Thanks for all your help. It really gives me something to work with. And btw. I never watch a pre-roll ad, especially if I visit a new channel. I want to see the streamer first. And if I like him it is more likely I watch an ad mid stream.

  • @chosenslimes
    @chosenslimes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is all interesting and very helpful for new content creators like myself. Although for me personally I started off with relatively decent equipment because I had my brothers hand me downs from when he was going to pursue twitch and still use it. However if im being honest I was mostly infatuated with the pokemon slowly making there way into the pokeball through out your stream. Really interesting visual and would love to learn how to do it.

  • @AnimaUmAnime
    @AnimaUmAnime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Harris, I love your content and try to catch you on stream always when I can :)
    I Have already watched your whole VoD on twitch, and watch it here again because was a really good conversation (I still need to change my avatar, I know hahaha)
    But I have some questiones that maybe other people have as well, so here is a suggestion for a video, maybe?
    1- Language as a niche market? I'm from Brazil, and I can't decide if I stream / make youtube videos in portuguese or in english. Its not simple because there are 2 possible ways to look at this:
    a) Like I said before, as an oportunity to use the language as a "niche". Because there are more people streaming in English than in portuguese, so it is easier to be "found" in each category when you use the filter "portuguese".
    b) As a problem of money value. To subscribe in twitch it cost around 5 usd, but to subscribe in Brazil it costs 22,5 reals. It means that its cheaper to subscribe if you earn in dolars, therefore it is "easier" to get subscribed from someone who lives with dolars, right? And the same thing happens with youtube ads and partnerships with brands. I can make "cheaper" prices to advertise something because I will receive 5x its value in my currency. (btw, I've already lived outside brazil, so I dont think speaking english will be impossible haha)
    2 - What do you think about creating a brand as a variety streamers? Because I'm not a huge fan of a specific game or kind of game, and sometimes I like to do "just chatting" talking about anything. The problem is: how to grow in youtube and twitter if you don't post videos and create content about only one theme. Im gonna use myself as a example again, I already did a video playing Ori and the Blind Forest (kind of puzzle 2d game?), Tree of Savior (MMORPG), Valorant (FPS), PanzerBall, The cycle (FPS), I have one video about animes coming soon, and this go on...
    So, the question is, Do you think it is necessary to choose a topic for your content and brand, or it is okay to just mix everything together?
    I'm trying to make myself as clear as possible, so if you don't understand something I can try to explain in a different way hahaha
    Again, thank you so much for your videos and all the help you give to people

    • @DragonNarutoEleven1
      @DragonNarutoEleven1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pick one type see what works and you enjoy.I'm Brazillian too and gonna start doing some gameplays of games that I will explain with news or top tens on my channel.
      Espero lançar vídeos em breve!

    • @lucascambraia3116
      @lucascambraia3116 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm Brazilian too, and I have the exact same doubt. I started the TH-cam Channel two weeks ago, and began with a "preview moments" video, and then began to release videos of a game called Hollow Knight (indie 2d game, really cool)...but sometimes I think I should go in another direction, produce some other kinds of contents, and in the midst of this, I end up getting lost in the ideas.

  • @rhinopatchino3947
    @rhinopatchino3947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna say thank you @ Alpha gaming,because im nearly 30 years old but now i started streaming and youtube. i feel confident because of all the Videos you Guys produce thanks Harris and thank you Sam!

  • @DehMuffinMan
    @DehMuffinMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    sound expresses emotion, where as visual is just there and unless it is awful it is not as big of a deal as bad sound expresses bad emotion

  • @EhrgeizTV
    @EhrgeizTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "Might be cool being blind..." no Devin. Just no.

  • @thetute59
    @thetute59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    whats the issue with starting soon screens?
    also: Is there a way to get rid of ads entirely? I only see that I can disable them but then have to run ads inbetween the stream?

  • @YoWassupFresh
    @YoWassupFresh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    totally good point. I immediately turn a stream off if I get an ad. it's to a point where I can only watch twitch on devices that support Adguard.

  • @Polarbear605
    @Polarbear605 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly as someone who is legally blind audio helps me profusely when it comes to gaming and just life in general. My sense of touch is drastically heightened as well.

  • @BLuJiNX_live
    @BLuJiNX_live 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMAZING CONTENT CREATOR right Here! I don't know of another person who spends soooo much time to help other content creators meet their potential

  • @himori_tempest
    @himori_tempest 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking of running a midroll ad at the beginning just so the first 30 minute are ad free. I've come to notice that the 1st half hour is very important and sometimes, at least for me, the deciding factor how the stream will go.

    • @himori_tempest
      @himori_tempest 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I spend my first 200€ on a significant ram upgrade

  • @RaidenCham
    @RaidenCham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've just gotten used to ads at this point. I don't even notice when I get them.

  • @GaeFootballClub
    @GaeFootballClub 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i disagree with the going live tweets, Twitch notifs never work for me so when i get them the stream has been on for like an hour sometimes

    • @imzesok
      @imzesok 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have discord you can create a server for your notifications for twitch. Just need a bot to push it to the appropriate room. It takes a bit of setup to get going, but worth it imo. Personally I use mee6 bot for this. It comes pretty much as soon as they are live.

  • @TheWordPlay
    @TheWordPlay 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woah, the timing of this could not have been better. I always used my logo as my Twitch profile pic, but recently redesigned it to show myself (taking inspiration from Sam's profile)

  • @TheUnone
    @TheUnone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I run your vids as podcast man(this one is literally the one), and for sure Audio owns.
    Which made me think, that it varies from stream to stream, if it's a girl stream, picture ftw probably. Or it's some really flashy dude with cool emotion acting.
    Or, a voice acting dude. Also, audio is often easier to make, there are some streamers even without camera and I feel the same joy from them, even if they aren't like top tier gamers.

  • @Xetnal
    @Xetnal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best crossover ever man.

  • @ElbyHun
    @ElbyHun 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are super helpful! I really appreciate your videos. They've helped my improve my streams. :)

  • @chriswilliamson9030
    @chriswilliamson9030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seriously the more I watch both of you, the more what I'm doing in pre production all comes into more and more focus. You guys have stopped me from sabotaging myself at least 20 times already and I don't really "go live" until Monday of next week.
    Seriously Harris, Devin. Thank you guys.

  • @Glitch09
    @Glitch09 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harris, great video as always. I do stream on twitch and also run a very small youtube channel.
    I do it because I like to do it and also I like to improve and when I go back and see my content I am proud of always try to improve the general quality.
    Your videos are a reference for me to improve and I have learn tons.
    Keep up the great work bud.

  • @DreadCaptainJames
    @DreadCaptainJames 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these convos, they're super insightful

  • @WedgeTalon
    @WedgeTalon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I don't think very many blind people [...] are watching me right now." LUL Kappa

  • @AuloxTV
    @AuloxTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Streamers can now disable pre-roll ads for incoming viewers by regularly running ad breaks during their stream, allowing viewers to immediately see what’s going on.
    When a streamer runs a 30 second ad break, pre-roll ads will be disabled for the next 10 minutes. When a streamer runs a 60 second ad break, pre-roll ads will be disabled for the next 20 minutes. When a streamer runs an ad break that’s 90 seconds or longer, pre-roll ads will be disabled for the next 30 minutes.
    Important to notice that maybe run short ads while on bathroom brake or something like that will make a bigger difference since it will disable pre roll ads.
    Thanks for the content applying alot to my channel

    • @brunosnow
      @brunosnow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I usually run 90 seconds ad break when I go to the bathroom. I actually don't know I it's the best move but it takes about 2 minutes for me to come back so I think it's better than leaving the brb screen for 2 minutes long.

    • @Conradhi
      @Conradhi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many times do you guys have to pee during stream xD jokes aside i feel like running ads during stream just punished the few loyal viewers that I actually have.

    • @brunosnow
      @brunosnow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Conradhi usually one time each hour and a half xD
      I only run ads in these breaks. I always remember the viewers that watching helps me (even tough I earn like less than a cent).

    • @AuloxTV
      @AuloxTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Conradhi i suffer from kidney stone so quite often :(

    • @Conradhi
      @Conradhi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LaTaberna Aulox Well shit 😝 I have a spinal cord injury though 😜

  • @Pop_Shepski
    @Pop_Shepski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y'all convinced me. I'm running Pee-break ads

  • @kevenguzman7058
    @kevenguzman7058 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate you. I appreciate everyone who is helping others in anyway.

  • @Conradhi
    @Conradhi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly hitting affiliate and getting forced with ads is the worst. Said it since the day I got affiliate, sorry for having ads. I literally make no money from it and I know personally how much i freaking hate TH-cam ads. So I’m sorry for my five viewers when they have to sit through ads. Summertime said having ads during the stream to get rid of the preroll ones. For me that is even worse. Note I’m suddenly punishing my viewers instead.

    • @SenpaiOnyx
      @SenpaiOnyx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It just hit me after watching this that becoming Affiliate on twitch has done nothing but hurt my stream. I'm not big enough to get a substantial amount of subs/donos, so right now my only focus is growth. But, I now have preroll ads on my one-viewer-andy stream and I make NOTHING off of them.

  • @TheRealNickG
    @TheRealNickG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audio is WAY more important. I will keep watching an interesting video if i can hear it clearly but no matter how interesting the video is, if they either keep blowing earraping plosives into my eardrums or if I struggle to hear what they are saying so much that I can't catch on to what they are saying, I'm done pretty fast.
    I could have easily watched this video in 480p with the same audio and still thanked you for the content.

  • @ExileLTU
    @ExileLTU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be great if they would either remove or at least give the option to disable pre rolls or all ads overall

    • @shinjidev
      @shinjidev 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have to run ads during stream to get the prerolls disabled.