9520RX John Deere-2660VT Vertical Tillage Demo
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Midwest Machinery sent us a 9520RX John Deere and 2660VT Disc to demo and try our hand at some vertical tillage. I was really hoping this would be our opportunity to try out some no-till. Unfortunately it's just too muddy.
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That's one wicked tractor Zach,that "disk"looks like a pain in the "---".
You could turn that 40 acres into a dirt track...just sayin'.😎👍
Right now it would be a mud track.
This is reality in farming. Thank you for showing the hard parts of farming where you don't got good conditions!
Don't be sorry, that was a great vid. It's good to see what doesn't work too!
I was thinkin that must have been a pretty fancy vertical tillage tool to be able to adjust the disk gang angle and roller basket pressure on the fly like that
“I almost pulled a Jim” 😂🤣😂🤣😂😂
I was so gonna say,, Jim's gonna fire you before you finish that field!😂😂
He actually said “just about pulled a Jim” not what you said
@@nathanbrown130 thanks for letting me know Einstein
VT's are great in the right conditions and with the right soil types.
Oh the Joy's of farming. Thanks for the day in the life and keeping it real.
As a hay farmer, that’s the attitude I have towards sickle mowers!
Good video anyway! 👍🏻
P.S. If I lived closer to Minnesota I’d make you an offer on those Horizontal Tillage tools!
I am glad you show the good, bad and the things that don't work no matter how you we try.
Thanks for sharing.
Please add a no experience option with the no till survey. Would be interesting😁
I hate commercials. However now learning that you only get paid if I watch the complete commercial; I now take one for the team. I'm a retired Ag teacher here, and love the fact that you support the FFA.
Looks to me like the last Family farming that land knew %100 that they would not be back the following year. They didn't want to waste the money on the fuel knowing this. I'm thinking they were TOLD they would not returning. In the end it appears you may have signed the lease a smidge late this year with the amount of rain you've been receiving. That 40 acres is going to need a solid week of sunshine to form up. Good luck Zach.
I know you work your tail off and long hours too. John Deere must love the way you push their equipment and show what each piece is capable of. Great vids, THANX
It's one of those years here in Minnesota! Oh well .... Hey I've got a diagonal till machine that would do the trick...priced Right!
Hats off to you for keeping your cool during a very stressful situation.
Entertaining & Informative as ever zach. I think we all chuckled softly inside when you revealed the new code term , for getting stuck. almost pulled a jim.
Lots of PP acres all over this year. Looks like guys are fortunate to only have 40 acres. We have a mess down here in the MidSouth. Enjoy you videos. I'm retired from 30 years in Ag Business, so enjoy you prospective on what's going on in Agriculture.
My fav: “....sure is colorful out this morning.”
🤣😂lol
That was unbelievable, I really appreciate you giving that a try. In Ontario we do exactly that for all our bean ground so that we can leave our soil undisturbed for the winter but man o man now I can see now why u do fall tillage
Hook up to a Salford! We used ours for our last 150 acres of more wet ground. It dried out quick and left a good seed bed with the rolling baskets!
I did that 2 worked pretty good but I hit it quite a few times
@@jder-ip7jx I hit most of our fields once and they were good to go. Only had to do two of our smaller fields twice. They didn't get worked last fall
Oh ya forgot 2 mention none of mine where worked last fall
I know it's frustrated with wet spots and wishing for dry weather to get planting done. I've always frustrated with my field wet spots when I have to cross the creek but my friend of mine was telling me about a beaver dam was building up that causes the high rise water on the creek. I like the no til grain drill and it's done very good job to knock down pollen weeds for 12 years as a small farmer of myself. Best luck with your planting
It would be interesting to try the John Deere 2680H High-Performance Disk.
We farmed about 60 miles south of your location in Chippewa County. Knowledge of the soil type and measurement of the soil temperature at the time of tillage was critical to effective planting of corn and soybeans. The concepts of No Till and minimum tillage has been around since the 1960's. I think your experience reinforces some of the real world constraints on effective use of those concepts. I would be interested to know the measured soil temperature in depth through the tillage zone in that field.
Horizontal tillage! That's a good one. Better copyright that phrase !
Lol gotta love American terminology 😂😂
Happy to hear you mention zero-till and cover crops for building healthy soil !!!
"Just about pulled a Jim" LOL poor Jim he isn't going to be left alone about that
Even in our sandy soil here the VT doesn't do so good when it's wet. We VT all of our bean ground (pintos) and it works awesome....our main goal is chopping up the residue and leaving a nice flat field to plant into. We raise the trash cleaners on the planter as high as we can and it leaves a great smooth field for harvest in the fall.
pottinger 10001 t terradisc would do it. it did great job on our fields (had on demo 6001t model)
It is nice that you are able to try new tools out
That smile killed me hahahaha I was the same way when I ran a 9570RX
Speed is key we run ours at 9-10mph and about 4-6degress and it works great!
We are from the north western part of Oh and we have the same problem. But we changed to notill 100% to get it in . 600 ac Corn, 1500 ac Beans, 700 ac Wheat. Got it all in June 18. Hardest year I have ever see planting. My Dad always told me (A wet year will starve you to death and a dry year will scare you to death) I believe it.
It's just to darn wet man your going to have to wait and pray for the best
I can understand your frustration. There are times and conditions where you have just got to wait each farm is a little different and all you can do is farm accordingly one of our neighbours used to be out 4-5 days after heavy rains farming on black basaltic soils. We had the same type of soils and couldn't get on it for two to three weeks.
Why is your quadtrac green? 🤔
Another great video buddy! Loving the content
A better question is why does it have yellow on it? It should be Red and Green!
Farm in Michigan and do minimum till or no till... running a landoll VT disk... not adjustable gangs pitch but it has half the angle of a traditional disc and designed to run at 7.5+ mph to move any amount of dirt.. if going 5.5 mph or slower sometimes it just slices the ground like a straight blade instead of moving it... we love it, works great for us
I am a new subscriber from South Louisiana (Cajun Country).Love this channel. Watching a bunch of them to get caught up! Lol! Hope you guys have a bountiful crop .
With the VT you have to go at least 6.5 mph to do a good job I didn’t look like you were going that fast
I had it up to 9 a few times but usually I couldn't get going that fast before hitting mud
We run a VT in heavy clay as well for us it just depends on the moisture
We have a GP Turbo Till VT. We weren't sure we liked it when we first demo'd it years ago when we tried it because we didn't pull it fast enough and the ground was still pretty wet. Once we got up and over 9 mph and on dry ground...the dirt and all the cover starts flying, and then it actually does a pretty nice job.
Ya that’s true and it doesn’t help that all of the trash was left over from the corn making it worse
That machine is built to handle that much trash no problem the only problem there was the moisture and when it plugs like that its game over man
Fantastic video explaining how and why no-till and cover crops aren't the solution for every acre. And that's coming from a guy who is a major proponent of both practices.
Forget about buying lottery tickets for awhile, seems to me like your outta luck (well good luck anyway). Good video! Keep 'em coming.
BTW, I am really enjoying the FieldWork Podcast.
Just the way the ball rolls. Great video! Thanks for all the work y’all do
I live in south east wisconsin and have been doing notill for a few years and it is the way to go i believe but this year was not the year for it. I had to vertical till some ground to get it to dry enough to get it planted before the next rain storm
Hey it comes with farming. Not always ideal conditions and sometimes with weather like we had this season you have no choice but to take insurance claims on some land like that! Good Luck and look forward to feature videos!
I think I mentioned this in a previous video comment, but the first day I was in England (3-day layover prior going to Ireland), I went to a small equipment show and sitting high and mighty was a (quite massive) John Deere 9620 RX, this was in England, and also just outside of London. A 9620 RX, just outside of London, in the UK.
You should go park that Deere in your Case neighbors driveway
Great idea I bet the parking area is open all the case equipment is in the field hahahaha
Oh Man.. You get to play with the coolest toys.
Last year we try a kuhn exellerator and it did a great job seeded after and it make a great field
Hi from New Zealand, just love the vibe you rolling there, I feel your pain with stuck equipment, spent a season on farm in ND some years back and definatly green blooded haha did the same as you everytime I saw a red/blue tractor😂😂😂 keep up the good work. P.s love the crafty way you wait untill you are out of a potential getting stuck situation to assess the result before you show it on vid😂😂
Perfect timing I’m on my lunch break now. Finishing up the last little bit of our beans in MS
The burning of the corn stock would of made good content and probably would of helped the soil
Slash and Char is a thing even the eco-nazis like and it is reported to improve yields 30 - 60%
Great video! Everyone in the midwest is having the same issues with wet wet fields this year!
I'm down here in central Kansas, and I can only sporadically get out in my fields to work them and still haven't got all my planting done yet on June 11th!!
Holy Buckets!! Heh.. Keep up the great videos Brother It's excellent seeing what our farming brethren up north in MN are doing out in the fields!!
I've been having a lot of fun watching you guys start your journey into no-till farming. Where we are in NW Missouri that's been the norm as long as I've been involved in farming. I never did experience all the challenges that come with starting this practice and watching you has been really informative. I know establishing the soil structure takes time and we have the same issues you did with the VT when we have any kind of moisture in the ground when we run ours. Wishing you guys the best and keep up the great videos!
What is that green space ship? it looks like it's trying to mimic the Case Quadtrac! lol ;)
They made them better! New and improved!!
So much clay in you guys' soil up there.
It has been a challenging year to be sure, you guys got too much rain during planting season, we had a 4 week drought in the middle ours here in Alabama Good luck and God bless!
Its big... Its green... Its amazing!!
Well done. We all have those two-step backwards kinda days. Please keep us informed on what happens. And, I like the private drive sign. Probably need it for us viewers. :)
Hope your arm feels better!
40 yrs ago when started making regular trips to northern MN to relatives place, always wondered what could be done to use that corn stalk stubble left in the field. Always thought there should be some way to put to use, such as a burning fuel source for heating water/etc for steam plant. That way the corn fields could be left nearly bare when done and not require a real fair amount of tilling to bury that much stubble.
Something that could pull remaking stalk and roots, leave dirt behind, collect husks and shred/chip to sawdust state to allow collecting mass amounts at a time. And a base format for next use. Biggest task is making it cost effective.
Kind of the sugar cane process for corn stalks. Cane stalks burned to produce heat to process the sugar in the cane. Grand idea at this point.
Wow.. You're so right, this is real life. I'm really sorry that you guys are in this situation- it made me feel gross inside just seeing all that mud. Will you being doing Prevent Plant on that ground? I hope you guys can get finished soon!!
About every ad I see for minimum tillage equipment they show it bei ng used in soil that doesn't really need tillage.Then you take it into tough conditions.... Try a JD no till drill with the in-furrow firming wheel taken off.Last resort moldboard plow and field cultuvate before it gets very dry and lumpy. Or take prevent plant and hopefully start building a good yield history on this field next year and see if you can get it tiled this summer.
Hey Zach, it looks like you may just need a heavey harrow to drag over that wet crap. I sure wish we had some of your moisture up here in Saskatchewan.
Zach:
Really nice try. It is what it is.... We had to file an insurance claim on my dad’s Iowa farm corn ground becuz too wet and too late to plant.
Time to jus go fishin’.
Captain Al from Tampa. 😎
You're right, the whole gang Bolt has to come out, we had lite soil, discer worked well, there was heavier soil we used a cultivator
We have a Sunflower Turbo Till that we use for finishing and leveling up behind peanuts and fixing ruts. It has the same problem but mainly clogging up the rolling baskets. It doesn't have the disk blade pitch adjustment though
June 8th. “Dang near the middle of June!” Lol lol lol 🤣🤣🤣
South Georgia John Deere are very smooth riding I’ve worked several peanut fields very good video
i guess there's some marketing competition between these tractor builders over Farming channels.
I saw another channel having a Case quad track for a test drive...
A lot more manufactorers should join this "battle". The farmers can try some very expansive new stuff and we see some pretty cool videos. Win win for everybody.
Some days are better than others!
my man you gotta run a regular disk through it then follow with the VT
Looks to me like a regular disc would plug just as bad on his mud. Not sure
When we have had that happen "field not drying out do to heavy residue" I set the depth to 2" and very little angel and ran at about 7+ mph the first time over. Then let it set a day before I hit it agin. It also gave me time to dig out the disk and between the tractors duels. LOL
If you are planning on a long term rent for this landlord you guys should sit down and talk about doing some tiling. If the hills are holding water then its definitely full. Looked like you have some places that should have tile you can tie into. Good luck! Hope you can get something on it, I know years back now we have had floaters blow beans on even airplane, is that an option for you guys?
No till is pretty much the norm here in australia, especially in the dryer areas but without the cover crops. Interesting predicament you have there, pretty hard to comprehend being too wet during seeding (planting). Usually it's too dry here!
Fields like that we took our tractor that carried the best with a lightweight quack digger with no drag behind it to crack the ground open.
We would chizle plow or rip the ground then lightly vertical tillage high speed 6+ Wet ground is just wet ground. Plant on top of the hills if you can. Good luck great vids.
Faster Zack. 9mph would look so much better
I’ve had good luck using the field cultivator with spikes to dry out wet spots
Around here if we have to plant in corn stalks we would do no till beans with a drill then work it up in the fall
Zach for that field I think u should try a quick till we have one on our farm and it really breaks up the corn residue
Andrew Haman Or deer’s recolored version 2680h
That is a nice 9rx I love John Dere they are the best
We didnt get our fall tillage done, and we tried just hitting some of it with a regular disk or filed cultivator, we ended up taking the ripper and chisel plow back out this spring to get it to work for planting
Hi Zach! The only thing that will help you in the mud is a Lemken Karat 9 with a roller basket(I think the dealer in your area is RDO Equipment). Maybe you could try a demo model. The key is speed and not depth. Try pulling a 20ft unit behind the 9560R at 8-10mph at +-4" (or no 2 marker). It may work for you - it did for us.
Could you get your chisel plow out and rip it at a shallower depth to get some black ground turned up ? Or a field cultivator without the rolling baskets down ? Something to make some ridges so there is more surface area to get it to dry out.
Even I have to agree that looks like one awesome tractor. I think it was mentioned in the comments but here in the UK, if that was my field I would conventional plough maybe the top 8 - 10 inches to bury the corn trash then after a couple of days, run a power harrow over it to fluff the soil up so it drys. If you have 3 - 4 days of sun and wind on it you may then be able to drill it...
It was still great video to watch. Carl
Honestly I would use that fancy horizontal tillage tool you are trying to sell plow it under wait a day or 2 and they cultivate it like 3 times should be plantable after that but be a week of work and a bit of unexpected costs. Hopefully it all works out 👍🏻
Just heavy harrow it move the trash to help dry the ground.
Our experience with a harrow on corn ground is not good at all. Bunches up in the harrows and you've got a real mess. We just bought a degelman protill for this very reason saved us on about 2800 acres this year.
Demo a Salford it’s what we use for vertical tillage for no till. It runs Rosen Coulter’s for blades but it’s setup like a field cultivator (digger 😂) The dirt isn’t that heavy here but we run it 1.5-2 inches deep. Once in the fall on a angle then opposite angle in the spring. Helps the stalks decompose chops them up more on the opposite angles. Then set the planter up for no till. This spring we straight no till planted with no tillage with the Salford. Couldn’t get 2 days in a row for things to dry out... The hills with wash outs that form and rocks, no till is the only way in this part Michigan.
I don't see any Coulters on the disks. The last disk harrow I purchased I made sure they had Coulters. When you get into sandy loam it's not too bad but when you hit the black gumbo those Coulters really help.
Nice Video....
Thanks Mid West
Hi Zack, in my part of the world (Ireland, England and northern Europe) we would plough a field like the one you tried to disk. This is the only option to bury the trash on top and allow the field to dry out. Once ploughed you can then use a disk to get a good seedbed. This might seem like old fashioned farming to you but it works for thousands of farmers working wetter and heavier soil types. P.S. don't dream of buying that tractor, reason, you can't afford it and neither can I !
Awesome tractor and unit
We use a 39’ landall Vt and a landall ripper and it works fine up in central Indiana and we have some land that is a swamp
Man that tractor is beautiful
My thought, the problem is the top layer of stalks so that needs to be addressed to allow sun to do its job. How about a ripper at a few inches deep. Just so you can create a trench and move the stalks aside. It may be just enough to expose enough dirt to dry it enough to run something more conventional.
I think that farm needs a bunch of tile. That helped us alot this spring pattern tiled ground got us in the field alot sooner.
We have a 37 acre field almost with those same conditions ,made more of a mess and decided to take the insurance
That ground looks like a high clay area. We have a sticky soil like that we call it gumbo or buck shot. A chisel plow might work but do not get one that is overly wide. The more resistance the implement creates the easier it is to get stuck It is a balancing act between getting as much done as you can with each pass and not getting stuck. Taking an extra thirty minutes to get over with narrower equipment costs less time and money than several hours getting a piece of stuck equipment out.
Zach, I have worked for a farmer about 1 hour north of you near Fergus Falls for a few years and we have a Salford made vertical tillage tool for our cornstalks. I would suggest you demo a salford if you get a chance, the finish that comes from them is first rate in my book.
We're just starting to get the rain here in southern australia. Hope we don't have the same problems as you. Don't apologise, it was still a good vid
last friday I got an opportunity to drive a John Deere 9620RX and it was so awesome I was like a 5year old kid again being so excited by that goddamn tractor lol
get your local plane sprayer to fly on seed try heavy harrow or something similar to try to cover seed. apply it heavier rate