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My unicorn moyorcycle would be a CRF 450/550 Rally made by Honda in Japan
And it will always be a pipe dream with Honda unfortunately
just get a rally kit?
A friend of mine just got rid of her 890 Duke after three unsuccessful attempts to resolve coolant and oil leaks. Even involving some brass from KTM USA. All of it covered under warranty but never properly resolved. She got tired of never riding due to shop time. This has put me off considering KTM for a bit since I saw the reliability issues in the flesh.
Buy the Himalayan 450 and be a really happy human
This looks promising,
My unicorn has been a Yamaha WR400r with the same reliability and maintainence schedule of the 250r
It’s my opinion the industry is headed in the right direction. This classification seems to be the right displacement/weight and price.This will open up the adventure world to a whole new segment. While the larger 690cc and up machines are nice, the weight makes them clumsy and taxing on back country excursions. While current dual sport bikes can be adventurized, it’s way more economical to let the OEMs do it. Kudos go to Kove, Royal Enfield and KTM. Beta are you listening?
Yes, and I'm thinking that Kawasaki would do well to release a Versys 450 based on their new Eliminator motor.
@@DifferentSpokesTVI've yet to look at them side by side but I think the 450 kawi and 450 cfmoto are the same. Those two companies have had far too many similarities with their 650 "adv" and other 650 bikes. Not just engine and frame but tech as well.
The 390 is a lot heavier than the 690. It's not the displacement that adds weight.
The weight of the 690 isn't taxing....it's lower than the 390A.
Not to mention the RE that weighs like a 1000 cc machine.
FYI, I just put a cruse control on my 22 390A.
It is an awesome upgrade.
Uses the 890 switch gear too, so it looks OEM.
Did you find a good deal on the 890 control panel? if so how did you source it? gonna do one or the other CC depending on if I can get the 890 controls for cheap or not.
Veridian is who you need to look up. A waning, it is very tight install. Works extremely well. It is plug and play, but a bit confusing too.
Bob, sorry I forgot, I am going to post a short vid on the connectors to help others. I need a week to get it done.
A 490 dirt bike that looks something like the leaks that also doesn't need a oil change before it runs out of fuel would be nice.
FWIW KTM rental businesses say they do 50ish hour oil changes based on oil analysis testing on the 500 exc. That's what? 16 tanks of gas? Not bad.
Moving manufacturing to China will be the death of KTM. sad to see them go
They are manufacturing them in india.
I'd love to see a 390 Enduro, basically a smaller 690 Enduro. That would be a better base to build up than a heavy 380 lb. street/dirt compromise bike. Aftermarket makes lite adv kits all the way to basically full rally kits for the 690. I'd imagine there would be similar products for a 390 Enduro.
I was going to buy a KTM 390 Adventure but held out for a Duke inspired 390 Adventure, and finally gave up. Went to the Dealership started looking at many other bikes. My contact asked me that at 64 how actual serious offroading will I be doing, and how much road and trail riding? Ended up with a BMW GS 850, he threw in a low seat, and dropped 4k off the new 2023. Love this bike, heavy but low seat and advanced tech makes it all just feel right.
KTM would take my money (again) as soon as it releases a 60+ hp 500 Adventure version with 300mm of travel front and back and 2.5L+ of oil capacity. That's the unicorn for me.
Hell yeah!
That motor needs a better counterweighted crankshaft, and/or balancers on the camshaft badly for me to want to ride it anywhere at speed.
And a wider ratio gearbox... It's very much a trail bike.
@@colinbowman8816 Won't argue with that even though with a pair of grip puppies, vibes on the handlebars are very tolerable. But yes, it operates like an angry single and it is a trail/enduro bike as you say.
Forget "performance" Horse power, torque, suspension travel,etc. One thing that Noraly/ItchyBoots has shown is the amazing reliabilty of Japanese -and the latest Indian adventure, Royal Enfield.
Taking anything other-that includes Harley too-out in the nowhere land would'nt be vey confidence inspiring unless it was Japanese quality.
Happy New Year.
Good point. Whenever I'm riding with a group and one of our bikes refuses to start, it's almost always a KTM.
@@DifferentSpokesTVthat happened to me once on a ride group with a HD Panamerica. Brand new it would not start anymore after one day of riding offroad, while my DR650 was still running like a clock.
@@DifferentSpokesTV You must ride with squids. You keep bashing KTM's.
For going to come down to weight and seat height. If it's too tall (34+ seat height) and too heavy it's a no go. People focus too much on displacement. My modified DR650 at 370 pounds with 5 gallons of fuel, racks, and off road protection is pretty similar to this bike in spec and has an enviable reliability record.
I have a DR also, the DR is 377lbs with a full stock tank, so they dont get lighter by adding needed items for taking a trip with, same with protective parts, it all adds weight. 400lbs is an easy target to hit with a DR ready to roll.
Mine has been great, it has been beat hard for 51,000 miles and it runs the same as it ever did.
If it has a taller seat than the current one I'd be interested.
I sold my 690 with the intent of going to the lighter 500 exc-f. I just picked up a 21 model 500 but would still be interested if in the 390 if it proves to be more adventure oriented. Things like service frequency and luggage capability as well as stability on the road.
I too am very interested in the reliability of the new bike. That is a big deal if you intend to using it as intended.
I don't get why everyone is obsessed with the 21/18 wheels the 19/17 is suprisingly capable off road but also makes it more nimble.
I'd like to see a more comfortable seat and to get rid of the stupid traction control. Also cruise control would be nice. it probably should come with higher bars too it seems like thats the first thing everyone changes.
1. It gives you access to the best tire choices.
2. It's nice to roll over obstacles. Even taller wheels would be better... Just look at what mountain bikes are using now...
I wouldn't even take a look at Himalayan for the first few years. It will be loaded with problems that will take very long time to sort out. Yammie Noob reported that engine is stalling out of blue and everybody acting dumb. He said that others had same issue but, he was the only one to bring it up. Too much of first time from cheap brand with scatchy quality reputation. I got my toy Duke 200 couple weeks ago. Fun lil bike with beautiful orange wheels 😄
Very nice looking bike but unfortunately KTM will add a crazy amount of electronics on it and then charge you to access it. No bike needs that stuff on it also that exhaust will be a very big problem especially with water crossings. That and the reliability and maintenance issues with KTM automatically eliminates the bike from my choice.
The number one rule is you have to trust your bike to get there and back.
Great point! A 44hp bike doesn't need rider modes but I do hope KTM doesn't charge a ransom for unlocking equipment that already came with the bike. That's a pet peeve of mine.
That exhaust is not the final one bro. Believe me. European legislation is so strict that wont be able to pull such a thing off
I'm anxious to see the cfmoto 450 Mt come to Canada. I'd like to see the 390 and the 450mt side by side.
That would be interesting.
450MT would weight a lot heavier
Same here, that's the way I'm leaning at the moment. Can't wait to take it for a test ride. Unlike the old 390, it's a full size and much more capable bike offroad. And going off Australian prices, it should start at $6,500 US
@@qiangbi5683but probably thousands less. We will see
Never thought I'd say this but I'm actually more excited about the CF Moto 450 MT than this new KTM. And my dirt bike is a KTM 300 xc-w so obliviously I'm not an orange bike hater. Single cylinders are fine for dirt bikes and dual sports but I prefer at least a twin cylinder for my adventure bike. A friend bought the CF Moto 450ss street bike that has the same engine and I was shocked at how nice that bike is in person. Not to mention that 270 degree crank 450 parallel twin sounds phenomenal in my opinion. 99% sure I'll be picking up a 450 MT when it's available.
i am sure it is * someone's * unicorn... just isn't mine.. us old farts with short legs and many women have been begging for lower seat heights for literally decades now... the manufacturers are not listening. an ADV bike, even a truly dirt-capable one, does NOT need the kind of suspension travel that an MX does. Cheers!
Love my XT250. But a modern XT350 would be the ticket
That’s why you have the original shorter 390 adv
Well u do have the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450
True that. The Himalayan looks to have a much lower seat so it'll be a better buy for many people.
Even if suspension travel is less, the seat height can’t be much lower owing to the ground clearance they need.
There are some really interesting small ADV's coming out.... But I just said screw it and went with the "original unicorn" DRz400s for its known reliability, low weight, excellent engine power, ease of maintenance and absolutely go anywhere chops.... Best of all, I scored a 2020, nicely modded , with a mere 900miles for $5k 😎
Congrats!!!
I'm looking to upgrade from my current motorcycle. There are a bunch of interesting bikes coming out, but I keep thinking about the DRZ400. A friend of mine picked one up pretty cheap the other day. I'm keeping my eyes open for one.
Nice . A little tall for me but maybe since I am a better rider now I could deal with it
That oil in the frame part is strange though but if it works then okay .
@@GLHS592 ..Its hard to go wrong with a DRz for dual-sport riding. Its good on the road as long as you're not doing lots of highway miles, but once the wheels hit the dirt it really shines. I've had Husky and KTM enduros prior, they were killer in the woods but that's where it ended and they demanded lots of attention to ride and maintain... Honestly, the DRz is more fun to ride and a whole different level of versatility..
Nice find! I worry that the DRZ, DR and Honda XT650L will eventually be banned due to emissions laws. They're grandfathered in but that can change depending on wo is in government.
This sucks ... I had decided on the Kove now this?!?! CFMoto too? My beef with the last KTM 390 was exactly what was listed in the vid. They bolted on cosmetic parts to make it look like an adv bike, but this new one addresses that. I would totally consider this.
It's great to see companies taking solid small-bore ADV market seriously. Not everyone wants a 700. 400 is plenty.
I'm concerned about the low slung pipe. It could be just for testing but it would be a huge issue to spice it up but muck it up with a low slung pipe.
agreed, serious mistake for an "off-roader", maybe it's only pre-production and they'll re-route it.
@@snupermoto723 That's my hope.
The aftermarket will step up for a fix I'm sure.
Just put a good engine case/cover. The low exhaust is good because it won't force luggage rack to be oddly spaced out on the right side.
390R is great, but I still want ktm to make a real 701 Adventure with 75hp, luggage subframe, and fairing screen. Probably change the steering rake a little to make it more highway stable.
Bike is still in testing as far as I can tell, I'm sure they will move it up
After a year with both a T7 and a 701 in the garage, my unicorn has 2 cylinders. It makes the powerplant soooo much more flexible, friendly, and fun. CRF 500L buolds are pretty cool. Maybe I'll try putting a ninja 400 motor in a 500 exc chassis or something...
Sure it's a KTM? It could be a Husqvarna. It says so on his suit. (I know it's the same)
No matter what, it looks good. Happy new year!
If the vibration is low I might be tempted. I'll still keep my F800gs for long travels.
Yep ! I need something that can carry a tent .. but rides like a EXC450 !! and weighs around 120kg !! 👍🏻
Sooo... basically you need exc450 and carry a tent
Beta 500 RR-S !
for me crf300l is the unicorn, 390 will be heavier, high rev, ride by wire, vibration etc.
what is a unicorn for you?
To less Power!
Each year we wait and hope for that unicorn of a bike and each year I'm closer to adventurising my wr450f and be done with it.
380lbs with 44hp… why would I not buy a DR650 with some suspension upgrades?
Because it's a DR650. Had one. It's a slab. Suzuki 400 DRZ much better. Had one of them too.
Creo que la verdadera y dura competencia será la CFmoto 450MT,y no solo para KTM,este año se viene interesantisimo en este segmento¡ SaLUDOS¡
Yes, a lot of people are mentioning CF Moto. I'm thinking I need to go looking for some of their bikes to test next year.
The pegs are level-and not leaning forward. That's great news!
I got use to the slanted pegs pretty quickly the biggest improvement I did was bar risers
I'll wait to see the final product, but if they make this a smaller displacement 690 enduro R with rally inspired bodywork, I think I will need one. Not sure where that leaves the 890 R I currently have in the garage though.
For a while they were going to bring out a 490 twin but that seems to have been shelved. I'd love to see Kawasaki bring out a new Versys 450 based on the new Ninja/Eliminator motor.
I had a Versys X300 for 5 years, that after 5 BMWs. It was a great no fault bike. If they put the 400/450 in that I would be a buyer. Only sold it because, well, because I had it 5 years!@@DifferentSpokesTV
I have a totally dialed in and set up DR650 here, works great anywhere and is un-killable.
Then the 890R showed up and the DR has gone no where. The DR is better on any kind of dirt, but I love the 890R.
There is only so much time to ride various bikes.
I dont need rally inspired body work at all, I know guys love the look but its just more weight, and more stuff to break.
@@DifferentSpokesTV That would be a well over 400lb bike, by the time the japanese budget people worked it over it might be 450lbs. Maybe more.
2:43 I don’t get how peak power matters at all off road even for this bike honestly. Except to push the numbers up lower down maybe, it’s torque that matters to me off-road for the most part
DRZ rider, I tested the current model but couldn't get past the alloy wheels and looks. This looks to be exactly what I was waiting for, if reliability is there.
DRZ is the second greatest bike ever made. The Doctor is number 1.
Yeah, the reliability is always the question with KTM.
@@DifferentSpokesTV only for the peripheral items. Master and slave clutch cylinders, etc, NOT the motors. Their motors are fine.
Don't mind the alloy wheels as long as they are tubeless. Looks don't matter if it gets the job done, and the job is FUN!
@@DifferentSpokesTV This is still promoted online, those who ride KTM's know better. They're out riding having fun while scaredy cats ride their mushy slow designed in 1998 DRZ's around. A DRZ is a great beginner bike, thats all it ever has been. an entry level thing.
I think the power plant is yet to be developed. We need a 550cc to 600cc lightweight twin labeled the 590 under 375# lbs dry weight to really find the unicorn adventure bike. Give it near enduro suspension travel, & I'm buying. Current stable is a 2020 500EXC and a Ducati Desert X 937. Really looking for a bike that can bridge the gap at sub 400#. The 500is great in the dirt but sucks on on the road. The Ducati is great on the road but is just too damn heavy in the dirt and is very limiting. The current 390 is anemic in power compared to the 500 which is still underpowered for road use and just isn't the right formula. Need to see 60 + Hp for legitimate road use, but at a reasonable service interval the singles can't achieve.
Yes. True Unicorn is a 590 with large gas tank and weighs around 350. Need to bring back something like the old LC4 640 Adventure, but with a twin and a 6 speed.
100%
Just love this ktm adventure. This should launch. Wish ktm launches the same prototype showing in this video ❤❤❤
My "Unicorn" motorcycle is, my own 2003 Z1000, 130-ish RWH, Muzzy Exhaust (completely improves the appearance-and a bit of poop), Black and shiney. When I pull up to the Starbucks, the 30-40 yearols-and their pretty partners and girlfriends, look at my 74 year old self, and Boom, I'm cool again. Then I ride home to my non-rider/driver wife and have to take out the garbage. But there is beer.
Look after Brook, the parent thing is a "unicorn" thing for couples.
Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
Ha, ha! Thanks! I'm almost 50 and consider myself way cooler than the 30-40 year olds. Used to be that each successive generation was cooler than the previous one but now that I'm older it seems to have reversed... maybe in reality or maybe just in my mind :)
Will be interesting to see what it feels like on a test ride.
"KTM Owner Moves Production to China
Pierer Mobility Group is cutting costs." (Cycle World)
I was considering a new KTM this year. That has changed.
The 390's are made in India.
They moved there manufacturing to india.
It better work well on pavement, people need good on-road performance to get to the gravel patch next to the tarmac for those instagram shots!
Agree, for me the 21" front is a deal breaker. I know that is a matter of opinion, but I don't ride single track. I love doing the twisties on the way to the FS dirt/gravel. I may buy a '23 just because of that. Adventure, '19in, Dual Sport 21in, that's the way I see it.
@@lcagle33 Almost all ADV bikes have 21" front wheels. A properly built modern bike works great on road with a 21" ft wheel. My 890R can be flung around on paved backroads no problem at all.
There is no side flex in the ft end.
Old flimsy forked and framed bikes with 21" wheels were pretty wobbly.
Thought the old 390 would interest me but the bug eyes and price were a bit much to step up for.
450-650cc, 30-50hp, reliable, modifiable, dealer network, under 400lbs. Still seems to equal DR650 to me. Seems like a bike that no one has beat yet.
Not everyone wants a 20 year old outdated bike.
I'll stick with the DR.
Is it really under 400 lbs?
I reckon... My 1200 Sportster S 1998 is only 438 lbs!!
@@martinkeet8373 see you on the single track forest ride.
CFMoto 450MT is also a contender in this category.
Not bad at all. I hope not too heavy and good suspensions.
Ktm needs to build a 501 rally and call it a day
Meanwhile my Honda Transalp from 1989 performs 95% of the things that this bike does. And will continue to do so for the next few decades. The KTM however will be in for service after the first rainfall.
My KTM has never been in for any kind of repair since I bought it brand new in 2014, it’s a 350 exc-f.
For some reason KTM 690 was the most sold bike in Finland for quite many years and the guys ride them even now at -25C. So no.
@@aatee5840any empiric data on this?
I think the new 390 is the most interesting bike since the new tenere 700. Have to see how it prices 🤞
The 23' went up to $7399 compared to $6799 in 22'. I wouldn't be surprised if the new 390A would be priced close to $9k US.
@@Ntmoffi for me it's got to be fairly close to the crf300L price wise or they just won't shift many
I’m definitely holding back to see what this bike is going to really be like, the main point that puts me off the new Himalayan is its weight. I am in my 60’s now and weight matters to me a lot. M
I won't sell my 2022, but I might pick this up for trails. My current 22 is setup for ADV long hauls
My unicorn would if Honda release a CRF 450 Rally and it comes with proper suspension and max 140kg weight for say £7k or less.
Come on Honda you have all the parts, do it !!!!
Candidly? 390 Duke is a perfect bike for certain countries' roads (I had one in Singapore which doesn't have much in the way of major highways). Anywhere else, I'd want a bit more power, including touring in Malaysia. 390 offroad - maybe, but it's a niche thing. I'd probably hire rather than buy for that scenario. You wouldn't love that engine as a daily driver on roads, after a while.
Thanks for the info. You're right that it's not perfect for highways or long distance touring, but it could do it in a pinch.
I'd still much rather buy a new DR650. There's plenty of 20 year old DRs running around that have spent every year kicking ass. If I buy a new one it might be good until we aren't allowed to buy gas anymore.
Then I'll figure out how much alcohol I need to fire through the jets to keep her happy. Brap Brap!
So would I - but it cannot be sold under fucking EU laws any more
An Enduro "R" version of the 390 with proper 18/21 wire spoke wheels, decent suspension with over 9" of travel and a high mount exhaust could be interesting. The seemingly unsolvable "unicorn problem" is heavy bikes suck while riding off road, and real lightweight long travel suspension narrow seat equipped dirt bikes suck on the road. A bike with around 9.5 inches of quality suspension travel, a narrow in front, wide and comfy in back seat, 40ish horsepower on tap with a real 6 speed wide ratio transmission at around 315 pounds wet and ready to go is about as good as it gets.
On the dual sport front, my well set up and tuned Husky 701 is way better on the street than my old well set up DR-Z 400 was, and it even steers much better than the DR-Z while off road (the DR-Z was a steer with the rear kind of bike), but it definitely doesn't have the DR-Z's "just ride the sh%t out of me, it will be fine" personality in the dirt. The 701 definitely invites it's rider to have fun, but it also demands respecting it's ludicrous power output, and it always feels like it might just snap the rider in half if they get too carried away in the dirt. If ya aggressively ride the sh%t out of the 701 in the dirt, it most definitely won't be fine.
Oh well, I enjoy riding bikes that can kill me if I'm stupid with them - have owned lots of those over the years. It's a tossup between the 500cc two stroke desert racer and the '97 TL1000S - as mental as the 500 was, the unruly TLS might have been the worst, but the 701 is in the running when the pavement ends - it's good enough that it really tries to suck it's rider into believing it's a dirt bike. Trust me, it's not 😆
Basically just a slightly smaller 690 Enduro R would be perfect. Would pay $10-11k for a premium bike like that. Aftermarket would presumably be similar as the 690 with lite adv all the way to full rally kits.
if this comes at 390 setup, my money is on it🙌
I think Ducati will be a prominent player in the Enduro market quite soon as they are developing an MX 450 program and the 698 motard could be transformed into a Enduro/adv bike without to many issues.
Great video, but this bike is certainly not as nice looking as your Tenere. ☺️
Thanks! Maybe I'll keep the T7 after all.
I know lots of people are hoping for an upgraded 390 ADV in 2024, myself included at one point, but I wonder if that “unicorn” doesn’t’ already exist in the form of the 690/701. I can imagine KTM marketing people worrying that a new 390 ADV R would subtract sales from the 690 R and from the 790 S that’s being reintroduced to the US market in 2024. Nice job with the video!
The new Remus pipe with cat attached slots right on in there, just got one for my 24Duke390 blue model, gets here in January,I love kTm😁.
Very nice!
I find it funnny or sad that this category of bike is considered a unicorn compared to the larger capacity Adventure bikes (eg 700+). I've ridden an R1 with aggressive road tyres whilst "adventure riding" on tracks which most mainstream "Adventure bike" riders would probably consider as being at the limit off they're off roading capability. Thanks for the content. Cheers from OZ
What your really telling us, in aussie macho speak, is just how good you are, nothing about bikes.
Its been done before, a lot.
That’s incorrect but Take it as you wish and spend your money on the wrong type of bike if it pleases you, makes no difference to my bank account. Cheers
I hope KTM wont fill up the bike with all these electronics. but KTM is gonna be KTM
You're right, a 44hp bike doesn't really need them.
That you have to pay extra for to actually function
The KTM 500 has been the Real Unicorn.
While the Himalayan is RE’s first liquid cooled bike ever and who knows, I would still bet the KTM is the least reliable of the two. So if I had to buy one, I would buy the Royal Enfield.
Can't argue with that. I've seen a lot of KTMs refuse to start.
The 790 and 890 Adv seem completely unnecessary. All these soft headed people willing to slum it for the Kove are proof they need to just make Rally bikes already. A 450 and 700 would sell like mad.
Happy to see the passenger pegs, sad to see no 890 tanks. We'll see where it weighs in at.
Those tanks are rumored to have been cancelled since they were prone to hitting things down low. Not ideal when you are riding deep ruts for example.
If they dont make it significantly lighter than a 690 enduro or dr650 with canister exhaust and a lithium battery (~350lbs wet), i dont see many reasons to buy this.
I just rode the Himalayan 450 over 10 days and while it is super capable now, it’s got some really says - Weight, horrible gearbox, terrible electronics, no tubeless spokes. For me it’s evident that waiting for the new KTM ADV is the sure fire way to know if I should get the Himalayan or not.
Good looking bike, nice narrative 👍
Its always funny when American reviewers talk about KTM. Their political correctness makes it so they actually say WP instead of White Power when talking about KTM suspension.
Not sure if your sources are concrete,
But the pictures you used in your presentation are out for more than 3 years now, with all the speculation in the market, but KTM doesnt fail to disappoint, hasnt actually come up with any bike with anything close to those pictures ! 🙈
Everyone keeps crapping on about this bike being a unicorn. You want a lightweight adv bike? It’s already been in production for years- the 690 bikes. They have more power, more torque, WP Explor suspension and probably be still lighter, and the aftermarket already supports it. The 390 engine is very, very average. I had a 390ADV, and KTM can keep that engine.
Looking at the forums about KTM reliability will not do you any good. The KTM fan boys will brag about how theirs never had a problem no matter how many times it’s been in the shop.
300 hrs on an EXCF only factory-caused issue was the Japanese-made ECU. There you go.
Looks interesting, but how about just stick that motor in the 350 EXC chassis???
The new 450 Himalayan looks sick. Top speed 150km+. Fairly light and strong at the same time.
Thinking it would.make a perfect.go anywhere commuter bike.
400+km/tank range🍻👍
And the whole bike was built for purpose, from the ground up, unlike this KTM parts bin special😂
You do know what a Himalayan weighs in real life, right?
@bradsanders6954 yup 195kgs for what it is its fine.
@@derekjohnston6345 432lb ? This is a unicorn? 35 more lbs you get an 890 with 100HP. What is really odd, is a 26HP CRF300L weighs more than a 690 KTM.....but only if you go by actual weight...people get confused by advertised weights.
KTM make awesome bike but their tendency to put features already on your bike behind paywalls puts me right off. Which is a shame because the people who run the local KTM dealership a awesome.
Seat looks close to my DRZ height. As I get older my 29” inseam is wanting a 32 inch seat. I would buy the Himalayan over this. I would pay a premium ($10,000 +) for a 390 with 890 engineering. Maybe 400lbs wet.
Weight is your problem not height.
At least it's not fugly. Now if we could get the 690 with a decent fairing I'd be all in.
Rade garage but even more $
They finally dropped that stupid looking headlight.
Price is definitely an important factor... cost me almost $20k to properly "Adventureify" my 701 Enduro.
The 390 ADV R will need to lose weight compared to the regular 390 ADV (IMO) to really fit the unicorn moniker. (I'd like to see small displacement "offroad ADV" focused bikes under 300lbs...but under 350lbs seems to be more do-able currently).
It seems like a 450 tuned to run a long time, would be a better bet than a 390.
Like a Honda 450X in stock form was a very mild bike, not a new one, they are race bikes.
Ive got an 890R and its great, but near 500lbs ready to roll on a day trip.
Big no matter how bitchin it is. Great on street and most dirt roads.
FYI. I was told by a KTM dealer the new 390 Adventure wont be released in 2024. In fact he said we'll be luck if we get at the end of 2025. Still in prototype stage and he said most likley 2026.
The dealer wants to empty the current stock before the new one arrives.
@@abhilashyadav2274 Yes 2023 models are on sale here but the 2024 is the same just colour changes. The new Gen2 390 is far from hitting the showroom. I trust my dealer as they have a very good reputation in the motorcycle industry and dont feed customers with BS. Having said that I would love to see the new 390 next year but I seriously doubt it.
The perfect bike was the old 990.❤❤❤
I thought my DRZ-400 was heavy at 320 (wet/full gas tank). A 390 that weighs 370lbs...? Ho Lee Smokes! That thing is a boat anchor that will not move for dookie in the sand.
The new Duke 390 gained in weight, but not hugely. I’d say if KTM can keep the wet weight under 400lbs, they will have a winner on their hands.
I agree. 400lbs is sort of the divide between light and porky for an adventure bike.
I'll be taking wait and see stance.
The Existing ktm adv 390. Awash SO beautiful motorcycle And Head Light was Outstanding looking 👌
Looks promising, but would prefer a 500cc or 690cc engine. Would be a no-brainer then. 400cc is were fun just barely starts.
Their EXCF 500 and EXCF 350 are upward of $12K and you say a KTM 400 rally bike is going to be more affordable? No way, this will probably be at least $11K.
Yes, we have seen, KTM is ready to race.
Now we want to see KTM is ready to drive.
To compete RE, KTM should strip down all unneeded trumpery, and make the ADV as simple and reliable as the indian originals.
I want my Tenere to have a baby with a TW200 . A TWenawsy 550 .
Nice! Yamaha does offer a lower seat and factory lowering kit for the T7 which drops the bike down a lot. My wife Brooke at 5'7" was able to flat foot that bike no problem.
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Yeah I had the dealership lower it with the lowering linkage kit . Then I got Motoz Tractionator ADV tires and I was back to the original height . I am 6' tall but have a long torso but short 29" inseam . Flat foot one side with a little lean and the other foot on the peg . Now it's winter again and I was only able to ride a couple times a couple months back for various reasons but it looks like I will have to wait for a good break in the rain .
I was thinking about getting a CRF300LS with the 550 Performance ECU and maybe taking it to get the fat tire conversion . That would probably kill its road potential and the gas mileage would be crap but offroad , hmmm . Might be really cushy stable and definitely a lot of fun . Maybe they could convert it to the same tire specs as the TW ? Get a couple more tire choices maybe . Then there's my dog and I really don't want to go on any longer adventures without her coming along as she would love the places I would go . That thought has me looking at side by sides and I know I would need one on any property that I might be buying in the near future . Well only time will tell .
@@hardworkingamerican8847 Yes, side by sides are good for dogs and kids and also fit in the back of a truck if you want to take a trip. In a few years I might start exploring that avenue.
or a WR250r for me
If its a KTM, its going to be a dealership service dept. Queen.
Kinda odd to have an underbelly muffler on an adventure bike. Hope that's changed on the production bike.
No. Because obviously from the spy photo it holds no gas. This is what Kove did right. Above everything else. 8 gallons of gas. That is real Adventure riding. KTM left everyone out in the cold when they never replaced the 640 A.
Get the best bike available for your needs now, don't lose another year of adventure or remote riding.....while waiting for your unicorn to be released or prove its reliability
The new one looks awesome imho.
i will get one and lower it to accomdate my 29 inch inseam , hqve been rieeimt and racing for over 60 plus years.
Why in some shots is the side stand on the right side yet in other shots on the left side.
And for me this is a great starter bike.
If it’s the same engine with increased stroke, and you said it looks like the same trellis frame but with different suspension, I would assume the reliability would almost be the same, if not exactly the same except for the boar. The 390 is already in an accomplished motor. and it’s been out a few years. That might make me wonder this suspension, but other than that of course this is all assumption.
Great content, as always.
Thank you!
@@DifferentSpokesTV Bless!
KTM 690 ENDURO R is the GOAT
the KTM must be be listening now,... finally
I'm waiting for a 499 or the 699cc KTM adventure 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
I hope it’s got a big fuel tank
New Adv looks great, I will but ibw