Best Budget Adventure Bikes
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For anyone new to biking. Remember you will need to spend a reasonable amount beyond any bike. Clothing, helmet, body protection, luggage, tools, security etc it all adds up.
Yes, good point. Buy everything on a budget but the helmet. A badly fitting helmet can ruin the experience.
My first purchase was 300€ helmet with euro standard because if brains come out then it doesn't matter who you are I'm now saving up to buy good boots and nc750x
@@DifferentSpokesTV I've crashed with $99 lids and $499 lids - they both will protect you well as long as they are not too big! You're correct, fit is extremely important
Keep mentioning the Versys 500X! I believe we are going to have to WILL that bike into this world!
It would make so much sense for Kawasaki to build that bike. It would fly out of the showrooms, especially if they gave it 21/18 inch wheels and good suspension.
@@DifferentSpokesTV Totally agree!
@@DifferentSpokesTV I wouldn't mind if they still use 17/19 lime in the versys, but an engine with more torque and calmer revs at cruising speed is what i really wish my versys x300 had.
Mainstream manufacturers hate the idea of making a perfect bike and eat off of their other bike sales.
Clearly stated and agree, Honda CRF Rally and the KLR are the only bikes you can ride straight out of the showroom floor and around the world, no questions asked, good video👍
I definitely agree that the smaller bikes are a better fit. I had a 22 Africa Twin ADV Sports DCT. For me, even after lowering it some, I felt it was to heavy, and to tall. I may jump into he ADV market again, but this time it will be something like the Transalp or maybe a Triumph 850 sport, not really hard core ADV bikes but I don’t need the higher displacement machines anymore, several of the bikes you mentioned are road worthy and acceptable for off roading, while being easier to pickup.
KTM or HUSQVARNA 500, my choice after the Tiger 800xc
Yeah, unless you're planning more hardcore off-roading a 750 makes more sense than an 1100. The only thing missing on the Transalp is the cruise control.
Still loving my 2007 Triumph Tiger 1050 ❤ (luckily I never go off road) LOL
That's a great sports tourer for sure.
I think that the new RE himy and the cfmoto 450 will make a big impact on the adventure segment, hopefully Kawa follows them soon
Yes, and the new KTM 390 Adventure should be a hit too.
I'm thinking we might find out the CF Moto 450 actually has KTM's new 490 Adventure's parallel twin in it. Which might make support and parts easier to find. The KTM is supposed to be sourced out of India, but the fools may have done the R&D in China, and not filed the Patents quickly enough (?)
Wouldn't be the first time. Won't be the last.
Honda or Yamaha should have made something like CFmoto 450!
On Sunday orders my new CF Moto. Gets here in July. Can’t wait!
450 or 800?
I have traveled thousands of kilometres on my two stroke Yamaha 135, never had a problem off road and on road, the Suzuki V Storm 250 is exactly like it , a go anywhere unicorn.
Totally agree: The KLR is carved out of granite. Simple, tough, big enough frame to hang your gear onto, and as reliable as a ……. Honda! I bought a used one for $3k…. ran the TAT in one go….. and sold it on completion. It didn’t miss a beat, didn’t lose me ANY money and it ‘does what it says on the tin’
Yeah, if you're touring someplace out of the way you can always find a used KLR.
I can speak to the deal of a used VStrom 650. Got my 2015 bone stock one with 4,800kms on it for $4500 CDN. Love it. Rarely miss the power of the 2018 DL1000 I had.
Yeah, I'm seeing tons of low mileage ones with the aluminum bags included for less than a new KLR650.
Anyone looking for a comfortable, capable and dependable adventure bike - at least on the street side of the spectrum - should consider a lightly used DL650 V-Strom. They are fantastic for commuting, touring, Saturday jaunts, and almost anything else you can think of. In 2019 I gave $2900 for a near-mint condition, 2013 ABS Adventure model with 10,000 miles on the odometer. It had all the luggage and other bells and whistles. It is probably the best bike I ever bought when considering smiles generated per dollar spent, and I've owned over 40 bikes in 52 years as an avid motorcyclist. Of course the prices they command have increased lately, along with everything else, but they still represent one of the best values you are likely to find in a motorcycle of any kind.
I watched a review from a guy who had ridden the Himalayan 411 and the new 452.
He said the 411 was far better offroad and pulled like a tractor but the 452 required constant shifting.
I am new to the ADV scene and I am learning on a chunky Benelli 502x. Having a blast.
I came up on sport bikes and JSM but this is a new kind of thrill. 60 mph on gravel is a rush.
Probably hitting actual trails Sunday. There will be some drops.
Another great episode. Have to agree with absolutely everhing on this video.😘
Your final recommendations are spot on as well; the seven bike collection I maintain with two sons-in-law include a used 2015 Suzuki VStrom 650 we picked up for $3,500 USD and a new 2022 Kawasaki KLR 650 that was on sale for $6,500 USD. Both the VStrom and KLR (with a 17 tooth front sprocket) keep up quite well on the highway with our Sport/Touring bikes; a Triumph T120, a Moto Guzzi V7 and BMW F900 XR.
And, as a Boomer who's ridden since the mid-60s, I can certainly confirm that Japanese made bikes are unquestionalbly the very most reliable. Both of our vintage Yamahas ('76 XS650 & '81 XV920) have traveled from Miami to Anchorage (10,000 miles) and have eaten up the Alaska Highway and the Dalton Highway (to the Arctic Ocean) without issues or repairs. 😎 PS: Love the Guzzi and the Bonneville, however, they've both had more repairs in their first year than my Yamahas have had since new in 1976 and 1981.😱
Thanks for the comment. Yes, after owning a Guzzi I decided to go back to Japanese bikes for the forseable future. Live and learn.
Yup, adv bike would be my next bike. Just have to finish my ‘car project’. 😄
30+ year rider and I was considering an adventure bike, mid-size for backroads, gravel etc, not heavy off road but enough to get lost. After a lengthy search I found a 2017 Vstrom 650, coming up on a year and I love this bike. Didn't break the bank and extras were on it from the previous owner. If a bit takes a bit to find for sale used it's likely because people keep them, a good sign in your choice. Thank you for doing the channel.
Thanks! Yeah, another encouraging thing is that some of the used ones are very high mileage so you know it will last.
Great video as usual! The further from the civilization I go, the more I start appreciating the simplicity and reliability. So, KLR, DRZ, CRF300 come to the top. I actually would take my XT250 around the world in a heartbeat too. I plan a major roadtrip to Newfoundland soon. Let's see how it does.
Thank you for great videos!
Thanks! Yes, the XT250 is probably better off-road than any bike. The only thing that might hold it back is highway performance with a rider and camping gear strapped to it. But you can have a great adventure on any bike and the XT has always had my attention as one of the best value bikes out there.
I bought a 2016 CB500X new in 2017, just to test out, I still have it and has just under 50000klm on the odometer, it averages 2.8 liters per hundred@90klm/hr, its a keeper
Yep, the CB500X hits that sweet spot of just big enough for the highway and still light enough for some challenging off road.
CB500X does not get 2.8L/100 km. Scooters barely achieve that. 3.5 would be reasonable.
@@higgyohiggins4380Nah, they do, they're incredibly efficient for such a large bike, my previous 200cc naked bike used that much too, at 105-110 km/h. Scooters and regular but very efficient bikes use only 2-2.5 liters per 100km, and then there are the small Bajaj bikes, they're not fast, they're just good enough for errands, but they go over 90km with 1 liter, they can go over 600km with 1 small 2 gallon tank.
I like adventure bikes. They're like the Jeep Wranglers of the motorcycle world. Go anywhere, do anything.✌🏾
Yeah but they also handle the pavement surprisingly well.
"Go anywhere, do anything" would be the Dual spot bikes. Adventure bikes are like modern expensive SUVs that are big, comfortable, have that cool rugged "offroad adventure" look but will spend most of their time on pavement. Maximum, some gravel roads or car drivable forest roads.
Jeep Wrangler: KLR or DRZ come to mind. These do not pretend: they can really handle offroad and, just like Wrangler, they are not as good on pavement.
Agree 100%. New klr adv is easy to fall in love with
Sorry- I disagree... Small dual sports (CRF300, etc.) are dual sports, not adventure bikes. really punishing yourself to tour on them (one of the things adventures are supposed to do). And yes, I have a dual sport (DR200SE) and an adventure (Tiger 900gt). Adventures aren't really for the dirt, they are for the street, touring, and really light (car capable) trails.
The CRF300L Rally does a fairing and fairly comfy seat, plus a 12.8L tank. It's not the best for droning on the highway but is very capable for most roads. Other small adventure bikes like the NX500 are actually quite comfortable for long distances and have plenty of power for the highway.
Agreed but advs can do way more than car capable trails man.
@@porkoholic They can, but that depends on tires, and similarly, touring tires are much different than off-road tires.
If all you're doing is car capable trails, then you can use practically any bike for that. You don't need the rider modes and suspension travel of an ADV bike. As far as the CRF 300L, there is a female TH-camr traveling around the planet on one for the last few years.
Just make sure the "doohickey" has been replaced on that used KLR.
I would only add the DR 650 used with low mileage…can be kitted however you like it and there are parts for it everywhere. Unfortunately, not available in Europe since early 2000 so here we need to search for well preserved one that is 20+ years old. Yet it would be the same bike.
My trusty T7 would be my choice, but if I had no bike and a budget not to exceed $9k OTD, I would probably go with the Honda NX500, or a DR650.
Yeah, we're lucky to still have the DR in North America. I don't know how much longer it can hold out before regulations kill it off.
Here in Italy, RE Hymalaian 450 is selling very well. Many people look at the new CFMOto but the best selling is the 10:42 Benelli TRK 702, italian best selling motorcycle. Would you believe it?
Chinese made bikes have really improved recently and the Benelli does have an Italian name. I guess we're used to so many things being built in China that people don't mind as long as the value is there.
good common sense!going back to the essential:what do we need for travel , a bike we can afford,light and reliable;so we have to keep it simple without all the electronic gadgets;back to basic:be in connection with the nature and people ;in many countries people will see you differently if you stop with a klr rather than with a 1300gs!
Yep, ironically most riders will do better off road on the KLR.
5:38 The Tenere T700 is 21.300$ in Costa Rica, and we don't have laws that increase tax in imports of big bikes, the brands just love to r*pe their customers when they're dreaming about a machine like that one. My Versys x300 costed me 7.900 USD, (8800$ Nowadays in the CR currency because the dollar went down) and the NX500 is above 10.000 USD, the CFMoto 450MT is at 9.900$ and it looks like a great bike for the price compared to what the mainstream brands offer, keep in mind, CFMoto is still fckn with us because the 700MT costa 9.000$, less than the 450MT because it's actually a less desired bike.
Oh my damn! My dude just mentioned the road of bones. I wonder if he knows why it is called that. Just a bit dark, man.
Sounds good to me, but the new “middleweight” Adv. bikes are (still) quite heavy ☝🏻 CF-Moto, Kawa, RE ect. … so, there is one more truth : get a still good used one, doesn’t have to be always a new one
Yeah, it's funny how twenty year old bikes tend to be lighter than the current models. It's true for the KLR650 too.
Agree about the V-Strom 650, it is a real workhorse that can be bought cheaply. Also a Versys 650 would fit the bill, the older ones are sold used for pocket change (propably due to the ugly front) but they are still Kawasaki quality. Propably not long now for a 500 Versys, we need more 2 cylinder options. 🙂
Yeah, I didn't include the Versys 650 because I always considered it more of a sports tourer but any bike can ride gravel or lighter dirt.
I love my KLRs but am now thinking I might get rid of them and pickup something like the 300L or the KLX 300. I rode my Transalp for the first time in the rain today and was impressed by how much shelter it provided, another way it would be better than the T7. That said I'm still thinking I should have got the T7. I would personally avoid something like the cfmoto or ktm I like riding much more than being broken down
The Transalp definitely provides more cover from the elements than the T7. The Tenere does better off road but if you get a KLX300 you'll be covered there. That bike eats any adventure bike on a trail.
I got versys x300(250 in malaysia)...still got the job done...been running 4 years now...at 90000km...still going strong...
One of the problems with Japanese bikes is that they don't break down and give you an excuse to buy a new bike.
Insurance costs can be brutal for the bigger ADV bikes. My T7 costs the same as my CRF300L Rally and a new DR650 combined per month. It's actually making me think about selling. Also, it's kinda crazy that a DR is almost the same cost to insure as my little Rally.
Yeah, my T7 was quite a bit pricier to ensure than my wife's Rally in Ontario.
No baby V-strom 250 sx , nice looking .
I have a new Transalp and I don’t see myself changing it for any other of this list even if they pay me for the difference. Great road performance and more than decent off-road unless you’re doing enduro type stuff
Yeah, you can tour very nicely on those. They are very comfortable and I even did some single track on the one I tested last year.
I've had a few, what I like to call, adventure motorcycle. Yamaha XJ 900 Diversion( I don't think these came to North America. The closest you had was the Seca 750) which I put Shinko 705 tyres on and a Can am Spyder. The rest all had a side car on them. Honda CX 500, Royal Enfield Classic 500 and my latest one is a 1982 Honda VF 750 V45 Magna. The CX 500 and the Magna 750 are great as they both have shaft drive, so no need to worry about cleaning and adjusting the chain. They may not be any good for single track but as I never do that it's not a problem.
Yep, any bike can be an adventure bike with some knobbies. Riding gravel should be possible on practically every motorcycle. It's only when it starts getting really bumpy that you need the longer suspension.
DR650!😊
I have a Tiger900RP which is a great bike but I broke my leg on it recently as it was starting to low side on a gravel road and I put my foot out to stabilise it. I blame the bike weight and the SIDI adventure boots (and maybe my skill/luck). So I bought a Honda 300 Rally and really enjoying it. Also Tech7 boots.
Yeah, you want to ride them like dirt bikes but most ADV instructors will say not to stick your foot out on a heavy bike like that. You can on the Rally though.
Have you been riding Kawasaki KLX250S which has got much better suspension than Honda? And the 250 class winner, Yamaha WR250R which beats both Kawasaki and Honda. Those would be (and they were) my choices for small adventure bikes even if I prefer European bikes as they offer so much more fun.
I've tester the KLX300 on this channel a few years ago and that's a great bike. You can adventurize it with a bigger tank and windshield but it's more of a dual sport than an adventure bike out of the box.
I have a 2nd gen V-Strom 650. It has been an absolute banger. I only pay $15 a month for insurance.
That's crazy where I live. Our Candian insurance companies bend us over a barrel. The second gen is the best looking one IMO.
I find it ridiculous that USA of all places doesn't have the almighty Honda XRE300 and Yamaha Tenere 250 (Both are South American model)
Our roads are so bad, we needed those models to go around without having our bikes dissasemble from home to work xD
Yeah, Honda figures that we'll pay more if they bring n the 300L Rally. Yamaha does sell the XT250 here though.
The 300 is really chinche. The gear shifter or brakes will break if you just happen to know it over. I live in Medellin just bought the CFMoto 450. The little Yammies are same bike.
How about Suzuki DR650 or Honda XR650L?
Great bikes but I'd define them more as big dual sports rather than ADV bikes. The XR also does not have a cush hub so it's a lot more dirt oriented.
It would be gloriously fun and comfortable, but buggered if I'd want to be looking for parts and support for a Ducati Multistrada out the back of Siberia. But, even there, they probably have Honda parts on the shelf, and a bloke who knows how to fit them...
Yep, the big four will have parts available everywhere.
I would get either the KLR 650 (if I could get my hand on one, not sold in Europe) or a Royal Enfield Himalayan 450, the latter being the second option just because its reliability is yet to be proven. The fact that it’s the company’s first liquid cooled engine scares me a little
Yeah, good point. Their other bikes have been pretty reliable so I hope the 450 continues that tradition. Still, always good to take a couple of years till they work out the bugs.
Noraly has proven to have travelled for the world for years with used 250/300cc Hondas. (Although she did enjoy borrowing a Ducati a 452 Royal Enfield, and a Honda TransAlp recently.) I can't imagine buying anything but Japanese. Since the '70's, a few years after I started riding, they've just been the best for any category. The German/Austrian/Italian/current British bikes are just not in the same league as the Japanese. I might feel differently if I lived Back East, closer to Europe and the UK, but the Japanese still are the best. For example, would you trust a Harley or Ducati to ride across Africa? Or, a "little" 400/700/750cc Japanese bike. Life is fun to have so many choices though, eh? How's Brooke, healthy. i hope.
Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
She has also completely rebuilt that Honda. New engine, new suspension front and back and at one point broke the rear sub frame as well..
Yes, you can fix a Japanese bike anywhere in the world. Brooke is doing well, We're a month out now and getting really excited. Thanks for asking! All the best!
I've been following your videos long enough to remember you trying to wrestle that Tenere up a fairly tame dirt incline in the woods that a DR 650 would've gone up like it was falling out of bed. So there's that. LOL . That Honda CRL300 will cruise at 70 all day long and not blow up, and go through the woods like a charm. Anything bigger , heavier , and more expensive than that is working against you, isn't it?
Fair point about the 300L. Also, the DR650 is still awesome after all these years.
Yeah, that was more of a rider skill issue. I'll try it again this summer and I have a feeling the Tenere will shoot up there now that I have so much more dirt experience under my belt. Also, when I have a manufacturer's bike I'm always a lot more careful than with my own. I think it's time for some more Tenere 700 content.
My old Honda NX650 single, that I bought in Europe, took me from Italy yo the Balkens and then too Poland. It cost me 2000Euro ( less than $3000 Canadian), uses the same engine as the Honda XR 650, so parts are easily available. It's simple and reliable and does everything I need and want it to do.
Ad at 2000 Euros, I could give it away and not worry about it, After all, I've had way more that that much value in funs and adventure from the Bike.
That sounds like an awesome adventure. There are so many inexpensive choices out there that will let you see the world without breaking the bank. Thank you for sharing!
My best bargain new is the VStrom 800, as it costs nearly the same as the Versys 650.
Yeah, that looks like the comfort king in the class with a big, cushy seat and plush suspension.
Used. VStrom 650
Cfmoto is already on the map.
They are, but they are not yet widely known. They remind me of when Kia first came on the scene with some great cars. Took a while for customers to warm up to them.
X300 for me.
The bike i currently own is the best motorcycle ever
That's always the case!
The RE 450 would be neat if it wasn't basically the same weight as a T7
True, but that weight includes a rear rack and tank guards which are add ons on the Tenere. The difference is larger than the spec sheet suggeasts.
Is that Martha Stewart on a Harley at 0:15?
Yep, I found that picture online an put it in there to see if anyone noticed. Good eye!
First!😊
I can't find information nowhere about the 452cc Kawasaki engine or bike, it's like it's just a made up rumor that someone started 1 week ago because I can't find anything on Google about it.
Thought these things were meant to be off rd bikes , majority ride them to on road ????
But tell us how you really feel. 😆
The super tenere needs to be discontinued and remade from the ground up
Used KLR all day every day! Parts are everywhere and it is simple to work on, even if you aren't that mechanically inclined. Plus, the KLR community is second to none!
The KLR is an antiquated overweight turd...
Yep, you could break down anywhere and find parts. Great bikes!
@@DifferentSpokesTV Not in Guatemala/Central America..
Hawk 250 less than $2k.
All motorcycles are off road motorcycles if you are brave enough.
Yep. You can adventure on a Gold Wing. Just put knobbies on it :)
I have a 05 KLR and it is NOT up to the task. It is an antiquated turd and struggles with anything more that getting groceries.... STOP promoting it as more capable... IT IS NOT!!!
I had one and you are exactly right
Maybe the new one is better because I took it on some ATV trails and even single track and it survived. It's not great on that terrain but will do no worse on it than many much more expensive adventure bikes.
@@DifferentSpokesTV And yet there are MUCH better bikes that are more capable for less money as well. In this day and age there is NO justification for buying a KLR. As I said it is an antiquated overweight turd..