Is it worth spending $9k on a supercharger for your Tacoma?
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The 3.5l V6 3rd gen Tacoma is a great platform to build your overlanding or offroading rig from... BUT it is a bit down on power... Or power tuning, depending on your view point. Either way, there are a number of modifications and upgrades you can do to improve the power and transmission tuning. Everything from re-gearing to engine tuning. In the end, nothing beats a supercharger. BUT at almost $10k, is the Magnuson worth it? Thats what this review is all about. Lets take a look!
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Mine installed by a Toyota dealership, that had done the install before, was closer to $8500. Still expensive, but not $9k-$10k.
That’s a great deal! My install at Toyota of Novato was $2400
@@PointShiftDrive Nice, mine was done by Kendall Toyota of Bend. I’m originally from the Bay Area and I was trying to figure out which part of California your video was filmed in.
@@JoshEAllen SF Bay. China Camp area
You are right. Mine was done for 8900 so yeah he definitely over paid at 9k
Bro it’s not hard to install yourself…. Come on guys. Save the money for other mods perhaps.
Hard to justify 1/4 of the truck's value to get get such a modest power increase. $4k for an honest 100 hp and I might bite, but $8k for 60hp is a no go for me and I'm assuming many others too.
60 supercharged hp is fine. Don't wanna sacrifice longevity either.
But no supercharger kit is cheap, all the good kits I see r over 6 k
Facts
If you want a fast car, get a sportscar.
@@alexgarcia3900 Or a Silverado with a V8.
People completely miss the point of these superchargers, its not a race truck, peak hp and torq dont matter, what matters is the low end torq and hp it adds. especially if you add alot of overlanding gear that can get pretty heavy.
I would wholly disagree! What if your not into the dragging around all that extra weight doing the overland thing and you want to do an off road long travel build? with the right tire and gear combo an extra 100 Hp would be a good thing!
I'm looking to do the supercharger setup with my 2017 TRD off road. From everyone comments it seems there are other alternatives (ov tune, regearing, etc.) As you stated in your video it's good to use it on the Freeway/Highway areas. I live in California and travel to Oregon doing overlanding with friends. I noticed you got that sweet camper from Oregon so you know the Mountain climb going there and back. I think the supercharger will definitely help especially passing those logger trucks.
Seems like anyone with gear on their truck and does frequent driving at altitude might find a lot of worth in this. As someone who has a fairly lightweight truck and got a tune on it, I'm still finding myself wanting more power at times. Just that the cost for this setup really has me thinking if it's really worth it
Why supercharger instead of turbo? I'm trying to learn
@@adm7890I am also learning but I been on car mechanics binge for months. Superchargers give instant response, do not require time to spool up when accelerating, and are simple in design to install (debatable).
Turbochargers tend to be cheaper, have a warm up and cool down period when starting and shutting off your vehicle, delayed acceleration compared to superchargers, and not as simple to install.
Both do the same thing in concept, they just function differently with their own pros and cons.
@@Rieneger hey, thank you for the info. It's appreciated
This is a better solution than dealing with motor swap problems and issues. Everything reminds factory as far as motor goes. Less changing stuff around means less room for running into things going wrong or breaking. I’m looking for a small power boost since I have 1000lbs out back. 💯🤛🏻 great video.
I like how honest the video is as well, especially about the price and how extensive it is, maybe a turbo kit for mine would be better in the future
I’ll consider once my factory and extended warranty expires
I went for it as well and regeared to 488s. A big transformation with the SC too.
Agreed. It makes a difference
I noticed with the ECT engaged it has more low end performance. Added benefit is I noticed an mpg increase. Wanna have even more fun turn off traction control by holding down for 8 seconds and engage ECT for even more spirited driving.
Haven’t tried without traction. Either way, there is some good potential here.
Funny thing is that I have a 2016 off road and when you hit the ect button it definitely gets snappier and feels more powerful. I also have a 2019 trd sport and that just holds the gears more and the transmission shifts a little faster and harsher.
I re-geared my TDR Pro and added the Supercharger, driving in manual shift mode, seems to work well, moving from gear to gear on RPM'S I am now curious to try the traction control hack. and ECT mode
@@fredwomack2141 be very careful I hit a wet slick with some oil and fish tailed. Lucky I knew what I was doing and recovered without hitting anyone. I was making a left hand turn when my passenger side tires rolled over the slick. As I accelerated my rear broke loose . Got the whole thing on my dash cam and thats how I knew what happened after I reviewed the footage.
@@smookee408 will do. I have some extra weight on back, pull kitchen, diamondback and icamper stage 3 Deaver leaf springs and rago shackles keeps it in check. the extra power is working out well.
If Toyota decides to go 4cylinder turbo for the next gen, im sticking to 3rd gen supercharge.
This is exactly why I decided to get a 3rd gen Tacoma now cuz I wasn’t sure the next gen would have a v6 and I’m definitely planning on supercharging it in the next 2 to 3 years.
I was hoping they would do a twinturbo v6... but they put that in the new Tundra, too bad.
I'm sure they'll go electric and 4cy turbo deisel on the 4th gen.
@@emorse912 when I saw the "how diesel engine works" video from Toyota, I was excited then after the new tundra came out, they said only hybrid because toyota trying to go green, it was deflating. And there's no way toyota will ever put diesel in the tacoma, it will kill their sales on the big brother, tundra.
@@tgkg maybe. I know Toyota is pushing for global consistency among their vehicles. The Hilux is diesel... they had planned for the 3rd gen to be diesel but went back and did a smaller v6... it's not working out as people think it's under torque. We will have to wait and see.
@@emorse912 from what I understand so far why toyota won't offer diesel in the tacoma or tundra is because of hefty tax of importing diesel engines. Unless toyota opens another department in their facility here in North America that builts their awesome diesel engines, we won't be seeing diesel options anytime soon.
I have been thinking very hard about getting one for my 2016 Toyota SR5 4Runner. I am also thinking about getting the 2023 when it comes out,and $8-10 grand is a very substantial down payment not including my trade which is at about $34 grand in value today. I think it's cheaper to watch you fella's spend the money!😀😉
For 9k and we can't get a definitive "HOLY SHIT" out of you nah it's not worth it not even bragging rights!
It’s not worth it for most people. But I can say that it did help. The truck was very sluggish and discouraging to drive until I charged it. After it was adequate. But that was enough for me to keep it and enjoy it and use it.
But again that was because of all the weight. So it was just a physics issue from day 1.
Very few people are going to admit that spending between 7 and 10 Grand wasn't worth it, that's alot of ego to swallow. When you said if you didn't know it was supercharged you probably wouldn't notice, you said it all, for that kind of money I damn well better notice. I'll spend my money elsewhere thank you very much.
Doesn’t matter what I spent on a modification. An honest review is just that. Honest.
But please don’t miss the point. The truck felt waaay slower without it. Even with an OV tune. It just got heavy. The charger solves much of the issue. It’s just not a race Car.
7-10 grand ain't much to some people so it's worth it. How else are you gonna have a supercharged Tacoma?
@@scottishd0g87 having the money and it being worth it are two very different things.
Hate to revive the vid, but considering the new 24 tacoma is 65 grand, putting a supercharger on your likely paid off 3rd gen is seeming like a GALAXY BRAIN 4d chess decision at this point.
The new Tacos are expensive!
confucius say, life is better when you're getting blown! 😉
Well I was considering regearing and a S/C for more towing ability but Toyota dealer offered me $5k more than what I paid for my Tacoma so just gonna get a new Tundra instead.
Good move. Don't bother with a Taco if you're always towing. Now supercharge the Tundra!
Not exactly apples-to-apples, but I had a TRD supercharged 1st gen Taco 3.4, and now drive a TRD Supercharged 2nd gen Tundra 5.7. I installed an open-element air filter/intake kit on the Taco, and the supercharger noise was crazy loud under boost (I liked it). The Tundra has the intake that comes with the TRD kit, and it is very quiet.
I’d be interested in something that works with the supercharger and the snorkel
@@PointShiftDrive Yeah, I'd imagine the snorkel likely muffles any supercharger/intake sounds that much more...
I have a 2nd gen, considered a Magnuson, but regeared it to 4.56s with a Detroit TrueTrac limited slip in the rear..... huge difference, even on 265/70r17s....it really should have been geared that way from factory. I may still supercharge it someday, but regearing gives a lot of bang for the buck vs supercharger.
I am also running 5.29s. Regearing is great. But it doesn’t help you much on the freeway. You lose top end speed
@@PointShiftDrive This is what I am planning. 5.29s and charged. Living in CO with the thin air this truck doesn't move at all going up any grade. I have to be at 4k RPM to get anywhere.
You haven't experienced a supercharger then. That sh*t flies on the freeway.
ECT is an increase in total timing-of course you’re going to feel more performance with a blower.
Late to the party, but I wanted to add to the forum. Purchased 2022 Taco 4x4 Trail Edition V6. When I got the truck, I immediately installed a 6inch lift, added rims and tires (295/70R18). Right after, I was frustrated with the lack of horsepower while driving back and forth from Plano to Austin here in Texas. Believe it or not, we have hills and during the commutes I was HATING the truck. It was constantly downshifting on climbs, sometimes 2 gears while trying to maintain 80 mph. Gas mileage was around 9.8mpg. I have done the following: Magnuson SC, K&N cold air intake, Flowmaster dual exhaust, and the pedal commander. I am using the pedal commander adjustments depending on driving conditions. THIS TRUCK IS A BEAST NOW!!! Gas mileage hangs around 12-14mpg. I can live with this. It is a lot of money to spend for all the mods, but I am FINALLY happy with my truck. This is a GREAT video, btw!
Thanks for watching !
The shop that installed the Magnuson told me that Pedal Commander doesn't play nice with the supercharger. I followed their advice. That was three years ago (2021). Have you had any issues with the Pedal Commander/Magnuson combo?
why would you buy an automatic transmission then (spend 9k) supercharge the engine and complain about how the computer delivers power?
First, thanks for watching.
Secondly, bear in mind I am reviewing the supercharger. It’s not a complaint so much as the honest truth. An observation. I still love the charger on the truck because it makes my vehicle much more drivable again. But it would wrong to give it full praise. It’s got pros and cons. Simple as that.
A resounding NO! I wholeheartedly wish I had never put the supercharger on my Tacoma. Power band too small. Can't tune. Too low of a performance increase for the $$$... Yeah that's all relevant. But there's worse...
Early component failure. Something that many SC vehicles have to contend with is failing idler pulleys. I am about to change mine out for the second time in 5 years because of the chattering whine. It is 💯 embarrassing when a truck you dropped so much coin on sounds like a 1982 Buick LeSabre with original belts at 200K miles starting up on a cold day.
Also, I burned out my spark plugs at 50K miles to the point of misfires putting me in limp mode. Try changing them.... That SC gets in the way. It's major weekend surgery just to change the dang plugs!
Don't forget to rebuild your SC nose section every 75K miles! Otherwise you're in for problems regardless of the suggested service interval.
Better keep 100% on top of all power train fluid services front to back! All of that mediocre power puts extra strain on everything. I can confidently proclaim that I do not expect my Tacoma to last 250K miles like a stock one.
Lastly, the cost of the SC doesn't stop at $10,000. You will fill your tank more often and every fill up will cost you about $20 more than a stock truck thanks to the "premium only" gas requirement.
Is the extra power fun? Yes. Is it worth the extra $$$, hassle, and embarrassment? Hell no
I’d never have it any other way. Best done on a manual transmission because the SuperCharger is all about being the “driver, not the passenger”. Maybe Toyota will do better with the new 8 speed automatic but truth be told it baffles me why anyone would chose an automatic unless they are handicapped/have mobility issues.
Glad I saw this before I bought it definitely not going to now
I just picked up a 2023 sr5. I’m looking to drop it and putting a street drag pack on it just to see what it can really do with this supercharger.
5:45 I can't remember where I read this but I saw somewhere that a vent on the high pressure side of the supercharger opens up to let it freewheel so it doesn't sap horsepower from the engine to try and save gas mileage when you're crusing at low throttle.
I wish they came with a switch that went in one of the blanks to control this feature separately rather than tying it to the ECT button with the transmission so you can have the torque of the supercharger in the low end of the RPM range without the truck having the delayed shift points.
The reason it feel more powerful with the ECT engaged is the engine RPM's are higher so the Supercharger Engine Map is is putting more fuel and you are getting a high boost. As engine RPM's rise the boot increases> More Oxygen more fuel more power.
Just shifts the transmission shift points.
Great vid. You mentioned you are approaching 7k ish lbs curb weigh I believe. I am going the route of holding onto my Pro suspension but having a custom leaf pack built to match the Fox kit for now because I am not interested in lifting (yet). I won't be near 7k at this phase. But I am curious if you upgraded breaks or anything else outside of your suspension to manage all that weight. And if so, how the truck feels from a ride and stopping power perspective. Thanks much!
Good question.
Actually I am still on OE brake setup. However I am planning on adding an Alcon full disk/caliper upgrade in the coming months.
My truck stops ok… but needs to improve.
@@PointShiftDrive Thanks. Future vid material? 🤔
@@waxifari5528 yup!
Wait……a minute how the hell did you add 2000lbs to your truck. Bumpers, sliders, cap, and wheels don’t add anywhere near that amount of weight. What am I missing???
Maybe just start with a RAM😉
Rams can’t fit in tight trails. But If I was going to buy a large truck, I’d go Raptor. Just a preference thing.
Sounds like building my own turbo setup and getting it tuned is the more cost effective way to go. Especially some mine is a manual.
But you'll never do it though
Nice but I'll spend the same money on gas and be years ahead. That's my conclusion.
Really nice video and review. Congratulations on the build. Question, how is the truck doing with the SC? Any issues or reliability challenges?
Thanks for watching.
Zero issues with the charger. The truck is actually very happy. Currently have 15k miles on the charger.
I've had my SC on for a number of years and yes there are issues with early component failure. I do not expect my Tacoma will make 250K+ miles like a stock one can be counted on for. Going back in this week for another (third) $1500-$2000 surgery. And it only has 103K miles on it!!! Superchargers are fun, but they most definitely shorten the lifespan of your vehicle
If you don't mind, what has been the issue or issues with yours? Thanks.
Lets also not make giant claims... I mean the way a truck is driven, the quality of the gas, the way it was maintained, etc all play a part into how long it can go. I am not saying our 3.5L with a mild charger will last 350k miles with no issues... but anyone who plans to drive that much needs to expect some issues in general with that much driving regardless of a charger or not. That being said, there is no evidence to suggest the Mag Super Charger is hurting the Toyota's V6. My truck feels great but I also maintain the hell out of it. Early on everything and always change my sparkplugs. Just my $.02@@BigPinger
Has anyone following here supercharged a stock Taco? Meaning, not a 7,000lb rig setup for overlanding through an apocalypse. I have a '23 Trail Team and I'm looking to improve flat out performance and towing capacities. Right now it's a dog here in the NE w/ a 12' trailer and SxS. Thanks!
An OV tune is probably all you need
$10K to marginally increase the performance of, and drastically decrease the reliability of your Tacoma. Nah.Hard pass. Just get a Ford Raptor or something.
I have had this charger for almost 3 years now. Zero issues. It’s a Toyota I wouldn’t worry about reliability with such a modest boost. Other kits… maybe.
I might have missed it but can you run 87 pump gas or do you need high test? Also, what is the MPG like compared to stock? Great video!
Unfortunately you need to run 91 and up octane. As far as gas mileage I typically see about 1-2 less (mpg).
I wonder if you would hear the whine more if you had a cone on a stick air filter... I know I can hear my 3rd gen engine noise a lot more with the k&n intake system (I put 400k miles on my 2nd gen, don't tell me they are a bad thing, no problems at all). No trouble passing with it either... I don't think the 9g's is worth it. My Tacoma will shit it and get it right up to the 115mph governor, uphill no problem if I need it to. 4300-4800 lbs curb weight sir.
I need to do an update video. Since making this I have more insight to what it’s like to live with. I also think that though expensive, there are more positives I didn’t cover. But thank you for your perspective
i just emailed with harrop, and they dont have a supercharger kit for this tacoma yet, they said they are still working on it and will contact me when it is available.
its 6k not 9k the value ...and ECT the only thing it does is change gears at higher rpm so you can feel the turbo... without ect you have to press more the gas pedal to feel the supercharger ...thats all
Prices vary.
Try throwing in a S&B cold air intake and you’ll get the sound you want. Supercharger is definitely on my list of thing to drop into the taco but I can swear by the added noise of the cold air intake plus it looks so damn clean!
I hear you, but the factory air intake is technically more of a "cold air intake" because it's a closed system away from the hot air in the engine bay. For whatever reason the open air filters have been called "cold air" intakes... You're literally pulling the hot air from the engine bay. The only benefit you're getting is sucking in more air, albeit, It is warmer air than you would with the stock intake. If you were able to get a system that pulled actual cold air while getting more air intake, that would be the ticket.
I put a k & n cold air intake and it takes off, add a pedal accelerator and I leave all them slow pokes behind.
Thanks for the review. Doesn't seem like it's worth it from what your saying. Unless you don't add weight to your truck. Bigger tires, off road bumpers.
Actually what I am saying is that if you are heavy it is worth it. It’s just not going to be fast. But much better than it was.
If you are light, A tune is enough. Unless you crave more speed. In which situation go for it
9000 for 40 hp....no way jose😁🤣😂🤣😁
That's it i'm doing it.
Maybe drop a v8 instead,for that kind of money? Idk,i have a 2017 tacoma, and its definitely under powered. Re gearing asap.
My trucks running on 529s. But also, this is California you can’t just swap engines. That’s the beauty of being able to supercharge an engine. And actually since the making of this video which was quite a while ago, the supercharger is opened up quite a bit. The truck feels much more powerful and I’m pretty happy with it.
@PointShiftDrive oh jeez,I get it now man.
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Why is it so hard to get real power out of a Tacoma, unless you LS swap it like the one guy did, I blame the transmissions they are so weird, I’m selling my new 2022 to get a all new GMC Canyon, 310hp over 400 pounds of torque, it would probably beat a Tacoma with a S.C. I would be so mad if I payed that much and it didn’t make a super charger whine and not get now real power out of it, if it did make some good power you would have showed us, but you didn’t and I know why! What a disappointment, but I thought of doing what you did and thank goodness for this video! That GMC explodes on take off!
ECT OTT TUNE is what solves that shifting problem says the forums
Look, take it from me! It is not worth it! It doesn't add that much power! And it can't change the fact, that Toyota shortened the stroke of this engine! Mainly so it could burn 87 octane fuel, keep the valves clean and deliver excellent fuel mileage with power if needed. Like he said. You have to push into the throttle, to get the power. All short strokers are like that! They have the power, in the upper RPM range. But the transmission tries to keep the engine in the lower RPM range for fuel mileage.
Your drive looks a lot like San Rafael / China Camp . Am I right ? Lol
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You need gears. 5.29 gears. You are missing out on the supercharger without it. You are bottle necked by your stock gears.
Not sure if that’s true but would be an interesting comparison test. My truck does have 5.29s but I wonder if they hold me back on the freeway
If your truck weighs over 5200 lbs, look into Procharger or URD applications. The Magnuson just doesn't make enough power for the money on loaded down Tacomas. However, if your setup is lighter (or stock), the Magnuson(+ a tune) is an awesome performance upgrade and you will not want to go back to N/A!
Yeah I'll be honest, that kind of cost for what you get at the wheels is just not worth it. The projected numbers are cut almost in half when you measure the power gains at the wheels. I put an AFE CAI on my 2023 TRD Off-Road and did the OTT Tune for right around 1000 bucks and my truck feels great! And, like yours, mine is very heavy because it's set up for Overlanding. The OTT Tune even gave me back the mpg's that I lost when I added all of the weight. For 4 grand, I probably would do the supercharger, but for 8-10k, it's just not worth it IMO.
I'd spend the money if the unit gave you an extea 150 hp and 175 torque. But talk about rape on pricing. About to just engineer my own turbo for a 3rd generation tacoma
Just get yourself a nice 5.3 L V8 from Chevy or GMC instead. That’s what I did. Better gas mileage and so much more comfortable. Very good off-road as well. Got about 17,000 miles on mine currently and had nothing but problem after problem with my Tacoma which I finally sold at 8000 miles. Rear differentials were whining, wind, noise from the seals, rattles from the center console. They really don’t make Tacoma’s like they used to. Local Toyota dealership had my truck for over 35 days within the first six months of ownership. Not had any problems with my GMC now except for oil changes which ain’t a problem.
The main issue with those trucks is their size. They just don’t fit in many trails around here. But it is very nice to have the power and extra room. I get it.
Different class of trucks bud. Try taking a fullsize pickup through Black Bear. Also, a supercharged Tacoma will smoke a 5.3L if you take all the overlanding crap off.
@@scottishd0g87 I don’t think the supercharge Tacoma cannot perform a 53. But I respect your opinion. Sure it’s a big truck and can’t go through the smaller trails.
@@zahanl5595 Lets not get performance confused. In a race, it will smoke a 5.3L and that is not an opinion as I race them all the time. Its more akin to a fullsize with a 6.2L in terms of speed and that is before you start adding more power. However, different class of trucks so can't compare them. As far as trails go, you have wheelbase to consider as well and a 5.3L equipped for these technical trails is slow as balls on the road too.
did it raise the top speed or make it faster at all?
Don’t believe it effects top speed. However it’s for sure faster. My truck was noticeably slower without it. If my truck didn’t have all this weight it would be more noticeable
I own a 2019 trd pro. I run 33’s and put 4:88 front and rear diff a front Eaton Locker, a Peddal commander and its perfect. Less than a supercharger!
Sounds like an awesome build so far
Sprint booster is way better brother Pc is a nock off sorry to say man
How much horse power did you get from the lockers?
People, it’s not a race car🤣🤣🤣. If you want your Taco to run like a race car, go buy a race car. I think the review is on point and many people are missing the overall value in what is being presented. 🤣
Honestly throw a junkyard motor in one and turbo it for cheaper?
SMOG in California is the problem there. But sure in other states have a ton more freedom
At what mileage do you need to do a rebuild on the the super charger and what is the estimated cost for the rebuild?
That’s a question for Magnusson but they built this charger to go 100k miles. Superchargers have come a long way. This is also a pretty conservative boost so that helps retain reliability
@@PointShiftDrive Thanks for the info. 100K miles is a good amount of miles.
I don't understand why super charger kits cost so much money? You can buy a whole new ls3 engine for less money.
R&D to create something from scratch isnt cheap.
@Nick Psaros man, I guess! Same company that runs the pharmaceutical companies. 😆 🤣
The pro charger would feel a lil more dramatic and sound would be better
Not CARB legal though in California
Cool vid Bro! Looks like we’re in the same town. Marin. San Rafael. Those Superchargers are fun indeed. Look up Diesel Toys in Texas. They do full Toyota Diesel builds in Tacomas and 4Runners. Bit pricey. But well worth it. I drove the Toyota Hi-Lux in Africa. Unstoppable. And a whole lot of awesome Torque. Great MPG too. See ya around town 🤙🏻🍻🇺🇸
Locked or not just overdrive it.
With 8k to 10k I would buy a clean 2002-2003-2004 Lexus IS 300 with 2JZ and a turbo 500 to 700hp sport car !!! Truck is truck for off-roading for work you don’t have to be fast with it that’s what people who not planning to have it for those purposes should know before buying it 🤷♂️
Excellent video 👍👍
Can’t make more power than what this provides unless you upgrade your fuel pump etc.
Not entirely true; check out YotaWerx Tuning and their tune for this kit
If I had $9,000 to spend on a supercharger, I would not be driving a Tacoma.
Thanks for the video. I was looking into potentially doing this mod, and it just doesn't seem worth it for the cost. I feel like I'd get more out of new gears.
If you are not running heavy, gears are first. Once you get heavier, gears won’t be enough.
How much more power would you get out of regearing?
@@ozzzzy939 You will get torque multiplication from installing a higher numerical gearset and this enables quicker acceleration or load pulling ability.
i wanted to go rv trailer tour with my wife using our 21 trd sport. pulling a trailer 4,500 lbs slows down the truck A LOT!!!! installing that super charger $7k plus labor my gosh makes it unattractive for me to use my taco for my rv travels. still need to put in rear air bag suspension and covert drums to disc break…. Tundra here I come if i am spending close to $15,000 to get my tacoma upgraded to be able tow already a small trailer only and have then nearly the same fuel efficiency. Also folks, this supercharger is not a 1/4 of the tacoma price. have you seem the price of a new tacoma? and toyota announced to reduce production
It sounds like you are just in the wrong truck. A tundra would be fine. But honestly if towing is your main thing, maybe consider an F150 or Ram. Those do it better for less
One interesting thing to note is that this very same SC makes much bigger gains on the 3.6 Pentastar that you see in Jeeps (440 ish horsepower vs the 390 claimed for the Tacoma) in stock form both of these engines have near identical power outputs. Seems on a Jeep this setup is more bang for your buck. Wonder why that is
hmm interesting, wonder if that has to do with CARB
Or just buy a stick shift and not have to worry about the computer holding the wrong gear.
Sticks are rare. Also don’t necessarily think that solves everything. You still need to rev it high to get any power out of it.
@@PointShiftDrive Looks like on the 2nd gen peak torque comes on almost 2000 rpm sooner after the supercharger install. Maybe it's the 3.5 coupled with the supercharger or just the automatic transmission that makes the experience different.
{to those of you without added weight} Keep the Bro Dozer AT tires off, add an intake and a tune for couple hundred bucks and the 3.5 is less than 1 second behind my twin turbo F150 0-60mph. Its not a slow engine. Biggest issue is understanding the auto trans and using it correctly. Having it 2 gears too high and rpm's at 1300 trying to accelerate doesnt work. The ECT button will do it for you without a tune but I use the S mode a lot to lock out 5th and 6th gears in the city or towing.
S mode doesn’t hold gears. It does to an extent but it will shift for you if it thinks it needs to. Plus the truck doesn’t feel happy at 5-6k rpm. This drivetrain just doesn’t like being revved. It was designed to meet fuel regulations across Toyotas lineup. It allows them to produce the V8 (at the time) of the Tundra. The transmission was engineered to optimize fuel consumption while keeping ok power. It just doesn’t do a good job of that. Hence why people look to tunes and other mods to improve the issue. Nothing will truly solve it though. If you love the Tacoma, you just need to find what you are comfortable with and learn to live with it.
I live in Denver, mile high city, would supercharging my 20 Tacoma give me the performance in thinner air?
You will have better performance no doubt. More air molecules in the chamber is what it’s about. But it’s still not going to be like it is
At sea level.
@@PointShiftDrive Thanks for the reply👍 Will have to keep an eye on any demo rides, would love to feel the difference, i know You got a camper but where is Your mpg at?
@@eatcommies1375 I am seeing about 14-15mpg driving normally. not too bad actually.
@@PointShiftDrive not bad, I’m considering a/t overland camper for mine.. Have Fun👍
I'm in Denver. Let me know if you want to test drive my 2019 with 5.29s and Magnuson SC.
I just picked up a 2017 TRD off-road last week and was thinking I might like to get it supercharged at some point. I would definitely like it to be a little quicker.
Easy to tune with OTT tune and it increased hp and refines gearing
That model weighs less than 4,500 lbs, they weigh less than 4k stock
A V8 Coyote swap makes more sense.
Can’t do that in California without moving a mountain. Our smog laws discourage swaps
Regear it and youll love it x2 as much...watch the Nitro gear vids...the final drive on Tacos is too tall for the stock tires. Stock Tacos need 4.88s with that whacky epa 6AT. The motor is too gutless to have torque available in any gear so its hunting lower gears.....make it have a lower gear and it will stop downshifting and soak in the torque on its own. Yoda engineers dont get it right all the time lol.
I was looking forward to do it but
Too many buts are no letting me do it
Thanks for the video 😁
I don’t regret it. Since I filmed this video I have found the truck got a bit faster. Not sure why but I am loving it.
lol i have the supercharger too, for 10 months. And for 95% of tacoma owners hek no it isn’t worth it 😂. Big ol waste of money. I installed mine myself and sure it’s fun and all, but nah not worth the 7.5k. Should have bought a used land cruiser. Also the ECT thing i didn’t experience. The ECT makes it more snappy and you’ll peel out if you’re not careful but it won’t feel “stock” without it
“Worth it?” Is a hard one to answer. I mean for super chargers in general that $ isn’t a lot to spend. But it’s still in every other respect a lot of money. I think I might be the 5% that think it is worth it because I don’t worry about weight on the truck anymore. I also think the fact it’s CARB legal makes it very worth it. I applaud Magnusson for going the extra distance to be able to sell it in California and allow us to still pass smog. Almost no other bolt ons can claim that.
@@PointShiftDrive right, for you that you’ve already spent all that money on the truck including the camper that you leave mounted, it’s probably worth it. I have all the add ons on mine too from lockers to armor and 35’s so yeah the supercharger is nice to have, but It’s definitely not a necessity.
@@osielalvarado1921 agreed. It’s not a necessity but neither is a tune. Just depends what you are willing to deal with
Superchargers are ridiculously overpriced
True.
Gears, though expensive as well but not close to a SC, are much better bang for buck and will make the truck utilize its power in a more usable way for what most tacoma will be used for.
There is an order of operations.
A tune, gears, eventually SC. Though in California tunes are restricted smog wise. The Magnuson is CARB legal! That’s huge appeal.
But gears alone don’t solve the problem. Sure helps down low but your spinning more RPM on the freeway and losing top end punch. The band of application in the 3.5 is pretty narrow. The combination of gears and SC make the Tacoma what it should have been from the factory. A platform you can build off of.
But again, I’m California a tune means you void your warranty and SMOG. So you just need to be careful. The MSC is CARB legal and doesn’t void your Toyota warranty. That’s a big plus!
I had a 2008 Toyota tundra supercharged...
It was not that way... It was a great daily driver and when I laid into it it was a beast!!
If I'm spending $9,000 on a supercharger, I expect a beast when I floor it!
And not have to push a f****** button to get it!!
I agree. But my truck is heavy. I think if it weren’t totally built, it would be fast. For a truck.
How much does it reduce gas mileage?
Considering sc for recently purchased auto trans 2022 TRD offfroad.
I have a Mangnson sc on my 2004 TRD manual gen 1 Tacoma. Old Taco feels more powerful, although has 50 less hp, will hold 5th gear on fairly steep hills at 75+. I do love it but the whine is loud. While I do enjoy sound for short drives, gets super annoying after 4-8 hrs on long trips. If I drive conservatively I get 18-20 ish. When driving the way I prefer my worst is about 13.
It’s hard to say. We aren’t comparing apples to apples. Depends on your weight, aero, elevation, etc. for me I only saw about a 1-2 mpg difference
How was gas mileage before and after The install . I have a KD max pro tune and 5.29 gears And was thinking of adding this charger
I think I lost maybe 2 MPG. But gained a more drivable truck
Hi, do you still own this truck.. if so how has the supercharger held up so far? Advantages/disadvantages? I'm looking at a 2021Taco TRR and it has the Magnuson superchanger installed.
Yes. Still own the truck. Have about 20k miles on it since I charged it. It’s been ace. 👍
That's crazy, the reason why you would want a supercharger is because the power is there throughout the rpm range. Supposed to come right on. I believe a smaller pulley would help and I don't know if there is a intercooler but if not that would definitely help too.
Does anyone have experience with the SC on a manual TRD OFFROAD? Does anyone have experience with the supercharger pulling 4 or 5k pounds? The truck is pretty stock
My 2019 Taco Offroad (automatic), was regeared (5.29), at the same time as the Magnuson install. HUGE improvement. I occasionally pull a 3500 lb. camper trailer in Colorado mountains (7000 to 10,000 ft. elevation). It's easy to blow past an F-150 slowly pulling an Airstream up the hill.
Dang he's added 2000+ lbs of stuff to that truck? That's 50% more weight and 30% more power than stock. Would be more interested to hear how it drives with a supercharger when you haven't added that much weight.
In hindsight 2000lbs is an over estimate. Probably closer to 1400. But regardless a charger won’t turn this truck into a dragster. Just makes it more capable. I love how my truck feels now. No it’s not super fast. But that ok. I have other vehicles for that type of driving
No MPG mentions as part of your video???
That’s because it’s too subjective. I am seeing about 1-2 mpg less since installing. However it really depends on how you drive. I tend to be more spirited.
@@PointShiftDrive Thank you! That's helpful. I'm looking for more power to save gas. Not sure I would want to risk 9k in that case.
A stock truck is 4400 pounds, is your truck that heavy with all your gear? Are you at the stock 3.91 gears? I want to go 5.29 gears on mine before I do anything else and see how it is. Anyway, thanks for the info.
Yes, my truck is probably closer to 6000lbs as of today. Consider all the armor, bumpers, 35's, gears, camper, drawers, dual batteries, etc
It adds up!
Regear is a better investment
Yeah, that has to be done for sure
It is a minivan engine in the 3rd generation taco..a derivative..the gearing is also pretty bad..speaking of my 2018 Taco Sport.
At least you now have supercharger, turbo, and regearing options to make it the way you want it
Im not sure if the trans will handle it
The transmission has no issues.
Really interested what your fuel mileage looks like. This a hopeful mod for the future but it's sounding like single digit mpg
I get about 10-12 MPGs (average)
Don't forget that not only will you be filling up a LOT more often, but you will also be paying an extra $20 per fill above regular gas due to the premium gas only requirement. An extra $100+ a month is normal for normal daily driving.
@BigPinger Yeah I run 91 anyways. I know the truck isn't really meant for it but seems to get slightly better mpg and I live in a cold state where the cheap gas gets switched to "winter mix" which is pretty garbage.
I have been looking a Magnuson SC or Pro Charger for my Ram 5.7, but it really works against my primary goal of Max Range #LRAM 50 installed.
I just took my magnuson on off my ram 1500 hemi, it was fun but selling the vehicle. Supercharger is for sale!
this video feels like someone explaining what a supercahrger is to people that clearly want a turbo.
Yeah, to be fair I don’t think I did a very good job on this video. My truck is heavy, but not quite as heavy as I made it out to be. And honestly, since I made this video, the supercharger is kind of come to life. The truck moves pretty well and it feels a lot more powerful than it did even when I made this video. I’m not trying to justify, the cost of a supercharger but here in California there are no options for turbos
That snorkel is a hp theif...
Meh… I’ve run it with and without. Can’t tell the difference
Nice review with this setup
No one talks about the OIl changes On the automatic transmissions my Transmission went out At 70,000
It’s not a sexy topic but proper maintenance of any vehicle is a good idea. I don’t think trans issues are common on the taco though
Where are the acceleration runs we all wanted to see?
Kind of limited on the street. Would need to rent a track to really do that
Sounds like your challenge is the slushbox should have put this kit on a manual
Originally I wanted a manual. However I tow every so often and didn’t want to faff around with the extra head ache.