Great video, this would taken me months of playing around! I am wondering what version of software are you running? I've also heard that you should have your cart's firmware updated prior to making any changes. What are your thoughts on that?
Thanks for posting this video about how to get the most from my new i40L Icon cart. I don’t understand most of what you said, so I'll share this info with my IT guy (my son). I'm wanting to be able to modify the coasting cycle and not have it brake while I'm just taking my foot off the "foot feed"! Yep, I'm pretty old. Edit: I've gone ahead and subscribed to you, so that I'll be able to find this post again, after I'm able to locate the programming cable. Thanks again!
Finally a good video on how to use the icon software. Thank you so much for the video. I'm tired of checking other forum posts just for me to be even more confused 10/10! Liked And Subbed. Very Well Deserved
Thanks a bunch. I was tired of the same thing. Just a bunch of fanboys jabbering on and on about nonsense. The internet needed a video like this one to just give the basic rundown on how to use it
Thanks for the post, we programmed just as directed with the exception of high speed reverse (no change). Love the way the cart drives especially the coasting and top speed at 30mph. (i40L with lithium)
You’re awesome! My dealer threw on a custom tune and I don’t care for some things. Like reverse takes wayyyy to long to engage so now I know how to do it. I use HPtuners so this will be fun to mess with. Thanks!
What is it on the I20 that governs the speed? Does the axle itself physically not go more than 27MPH? I can feel the thing braking on a downhill if it touches 27MPH. ppl with the old controller never seemed to have this issue so is the 14.1 axle new along with the new controller? I do have the cable and software and am grateful to have the aggressive regenerative braking off at least. This is my first golf cart and first EV so trying to understand how it works. I have to take the thing for 1yr maintenance should I reset it lol.
Awesome video very helpful, i do have a question though. I am seeing some people say i need a specific CAN to USB converter. Does that apply to only certain year models?
Great Video. Quick question about the EMB. Have heard stories about after upgrading to lithium, the rear brakes lock up (EMB) if you use power. Any changes help that?
I think that had to do with them getting a voltage spike in the ECU when switching over. I haven’t personally seen EMB issues on lithium conversions but I will research it
A/C motors can draw a lot of AMPS from your battery which requires a high quality lithium battery with a high AMP internal BMS. You will need a lithium battery that can handle 200 AMPS continuous at a minimum. Cheap lithium batteries from amazon or ebay a lot of times will only handle 100 AMPS continuous which under heavy load or high acceleration will cause the BMS to shut down which turns the battery off. If the battery shuts down the EMB will lock up. This can be very dangerous when traveling at high speeds. If you purchase a high quality lithium battery that is designed for a golf cart you wont have this problem.
Great video. Thanks. Did you ever get the following warning: DRIVE OR PROGRAM UPDATED. NEED TO UPDATE THE VIEWER! I can't make any changes as I keep getting that pop up.
I finally got a cable and found the software to download. followed all the instructions but cannot get a green CONNECT indicator - it just flashes red. Is Icon now requiring admin / engineer password to make changes? I noticed that have User Rights section under the OPTION heading now. Any help is much appreciated!
Our Screens look the same, but I have a Bintelli and you have an Icon. Under Speed Mode, I don't have SPR High Spd or SPR Low Spd, so I can't adjust the RPMs. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
For the battery label, if you change batteries, you should also change the max/min voltage. This will help you sace your batteries and prevent the controller from draining out the batteries. For example min voltage for AGM batteries will be around 40V, but lithium battery min voltage will be around 44v. If youe vehicle's settings for min operating v is 40, you could be risking the SOH for your lithium battery.
I want to thank you for your contribution to the icon community!!!! Bought my icon I60L last fall and have been looking for a way to make it run halfway decent ever since I got it. I do have lithium in it though however it’s the same controller. Could you please reach out to me ? Thank you 🙏
Question, having issues trying to load i60L up ramp into toy hauler. Cart bucks like crazy and have to turn key off to stop bucking. Any adjustments to smooth loading process?
That’s the EMB electro magnetic brake. You have to go faster. Don’t let the computer think you are slowing to a stop. Or you can adjust the engagement delay timing parameter in the EMB settings.
Hi, I got a 2023 I20 lithium. Cable is new CartCables and I have the Icon Live software. Tried connecting using the correct baud rate on the COM port. Connect button turns green but NO data from cart shows up. Any ideas? Windows 11.
Yeh just pop the top where the cup holders are and pull out those electrical connections one by one until it turns off . That’s what we did , thing was so annoying . But if you have a back up camera it will not work anymore as it is connected to the same circuit as the reverse beeping
I changed all the settings besides the fwd speed , the acceleration is a lot more but the top speed won’t increase and I can’t set it to 53.3 and the top speed decreased by 3
do you have a lifted or non-lifted model? if it is non-lifted, you may have a gear ratio of 14-1 (you can check this by lookin at the sticker on the rear axle). If that is the case, even at the max 7000 rpm, you will only get to about 27mph max.
Put your meter pulse per round to 4.4 that will match the actual speed your going to the speed showing on the cluster. The actual speed is about 2mph slower than what the car is showing on the screen
You are taking risks over riding the CPU! We call this a Tune or Tuning. It will void the warranty and everything that is electronic. What it is that the parameters are being extended outside the factory setting.
False. The system has fail safes built into its software to disallow erroneous data inputs. Warranty… who gives a shit. They’re built like tanks. Something fails.. reup your factory defaults prior to calling them. There
You are an absolute saint. Thank you for making this for everyone.
Great video, this would taken me months of playing around! I am wondering what version of software are you running? I've also heard that you should have your cart's firmware updated prior to making any changes. What are your thoughts on that?
Great video! I followed along and now my cart maintains 30-33mph which is perfect!
Thanks for posting this video about how to get the most from my new i40L Icon cart. I don’t understand most of what you said, so I'll share this info with my IT guy (my son). I'm wanting to be able to modify the coasting cycle and not have it brake while I'm just taking my foot off the "foot feed"! Yep, I'm pretty old.
Edit: I've gone ahead and subscribed to you, so that I'll be able to find this post again, after I'm able to locate the programming cable. Thanks again!
Finally a good video on how to use the icon software. Thank you so much for the video. I'm tired of checking other forum posts just for me to be even more confused 10/10! Liked And Subbed. Very Well Deserved
Thanks a bunch. I was tired of the same thing. Just a bunch of fanboys jabbering on and on about nonsense. The internet needed a video like this one to just give the basic rundown on how to use it
Thanks for the post, we programmed just as directed with the exception of high speed reverse (no change). Love the way the cart drives especially the coasting and top speed at 30mph. (i40L with lithium)
What version of Iconlive did you use for video? I have 3.04 which is NG! Thanks for info!
You’re awesome! My dealer threw on a custom tune and I don’t care for some things. Like reverse takes wayyyy to long to engage so now I know how to do it. I use HPtuners so this will be fun to mess with. Thanks!
What is it on the I20 that governs the speed? Does the axle itself physically not go more than 27MPH? I can feel the thing braking on a downhill if it touches 27MPH. ppl with the old controller never seemed to have this issue so is the 14.1 axle new along with the new controller? I do have the cable and software and am grateful to have the aggressive regenerative braking off at least. This is my first golf cart and first EV so trying to understand how it works. I have to take the thing for 1yr maintenance should I reset it lol.
did you ever figure out why its breaking downhill?
@@Senyuraaa nope still assuming it is the axle physically limiting it somehow.
What are the settings I need to change if I want to put my own lithium battery. The dealer is charging way too much money... I want to do it myself
Awesome video, any idea if theres a similar software for Denago golf carts?
Hello, thanks for the video. Do you have any idea if this software will work the same for a 2024?
Which controller does your cart have? Also, what settings for burnouts and wheelies? Lol
I too would like to have that link to the cable. Thanks for making this TH-cam video.
Awesome video very helpful, i do have a question though. I am seeing some people say i need a specific CAN to USB converter. Does that apply to only certain year models?
2021 and older
Great Video. Quick question about the EMB. Have heard stories about after upgrading to lithium, the rear brakes lock up (EMB) if you use power. Any changes help that?
I think that had to do with them getting a voltage spike in the ECU when switching over. I haven’t personally seen EMB issues on lithium conversions but I will research it
Sorry - Lose power.
A/C motors can draw a lot of AMPS from your battery which requires a high quality lithium battery with a high AMP internal BMS. You will need a lithium battery that can handle 200 AMPS continuous at a minimum. Cheap lithium batteries from amazon or ebay a lot of times will only handle 100 AMPS continuous which under heavy load or high acceleration will cause the BMS to shut down which turns the battery off. If the battery shuts down the EMB will lock up. This can be very dangerous when traveling at high speeds. If you purchase a high quality lithium battery that is designed for a golf cart you wont have this problem.
Great video. Thanks. Did you ever get the following warning: DRIVE OR PROGRAM UPDATED. NEED TO UPDATE THE VIEWER! I can't make any changes as I keep getting that pop up.
The baud rate for your computer port needs to be set at 38400
Can you adjust the lithium battery save mode via this software?
I finally got a cable and found the software to download. followed all the instructions but cannot get a green CONNECT indicator - it just flashes red. Is Icon now requiring admin / engineer password to make changes? I noticed that have User Rights section under the OPTION heading now. Any help is much appreciated!
Our Screens look the same, but I have a Bintelli and you have an Icon. Under Speed Mode, I don't have SPR High Spd or SPR Low Spd, so I can't adjust the RPMs. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
For the battery label, if you change batteries, you should also change the max/min voltage. This will help you sace your batteries and prevent the controller from draining out the batteries.
For example min voltage for AGM batteries will be around 40V, but lithium battery min voltage will be around 44v.
If youe vehicle's settings for min operating v is 40, you could be risking the SOH for your lithium battery.
I want to thank you for your contribution to the icon community!!!!
Bought my icon I60L last fall and have been looking for a way to make it run halfway decent ever since I got it.
I do have lithium in it though however it’s the same controller.
Could you please reach out to me ?
Thank you 🙏
By the way I just purchased the programming cable using your link 👍💪
Just like forscan. For a ford thanks for the video and unlocking the potential on these things.
Does this work for Advanced EV?
Question, having issues trying to load i60L up ramp into toy hauler. Cart bucks like crazy and have to turn key off to stop bucking. Any adjustments to smooth loading process?
That’s the EMB electro magnetic brake. You have to go faster. Don’t let the computer think you are slowing to a stop. Or you can adjust the engagement delay timing parameter in the EMB settings.
Does it work with a 2020 i60L? Or do you need different software?
2020 will have the neos controller. it is different software and cable but is also adjustable in similar manner.
Where can I get this software
Not all heroes wear capes. Nice work!!
Can you do one for a 2024 evolution d5 cart to increase the speed and stop the break assistance in the accelerator?
Hi, I got a 2023 I20 lithium. Cable is new CartCables and I have the Icon Live software. Tried connecting using the correct baud rate on the COM port. Connect button turns green but NO data from cart shows up. Any ideas? Windows 11.
Are you turning the key to on on your cart?
Yes and it connects (green) but no data show up in the softyware.
You need an eco tech tool to program the cars with lithium batteries maybe thats why?
Thanks for the details. Will you add the link to the cable?
How do u reduce the top speed ? I will have younger people driving it
Thanks brother, much appreciated....that software is a nightmare to navigate....lol
Great stuff, wish they made one for the Denago Rover
Does anyone know where the software site is
Great informative video. I don't think I'm going to do it to my lifted Icon. Darn thing's tippy enough as it is at 25 MPH. Still, good information.
Can anyone point me to the CURTIS program for the 1243-4209 motor controller?
Or
the electrical/electronic diagram of these controllers?
I bought the cable but now I can not find the software download to do the programing! Cable cost $105
Where can i get a copy of the software for a PC.
Did u ever find it?
Where is the link to the cord you bought?
From this seller: www.ebay.com/usr/cartcables
Can you turn off the backup horn?
Yeh just pop the top where the cup holders are and pull out those electrical connections one by one until it turns off . That’s what we did , thing was so annoying . But if you have a back up camera it will not work anymore as it is connected to the same circuit as the reverse beeping
I just unplugged the horn by unplugging the connector by the horn underneath the cart.
Hello - Do you know a safe site to get the Icon Live software for a MAC. Have a 2022 I60L. Already have the cable. Thanks
Any luck with finding the software for a Mac?
@@rw492not yet but I would love to know !
Will this work for 2020 icon
Try it. Should work
Would you happen to give any other suggestion finding this software? I got the cables I need
I changed all the settings besides the fwd speed , the acceleration is a lot more but the top speed won’t increase and I can’t set it to 53.3 and the top speed decreased by 3
my top will only go to 45.5
Why doesn’t my menu look like yours I have no restraint setting I have a 2023 cart
My rpms are limited to 6600 which sets the max speed at 40kmh. Any idea how to adjust that?
do you have a lifted or non-lifted model? if it is non-lifted, you may have a gear ratio of 14-1 (you can check this by lookin at the sticker on the rear axle). If that is the case, even at the max 7000 rpm, you will only get to about 27mph max.
my max speed wont go past 45.5, do you know how to fix that?
Thanks for the your help, going to give it a shot.
my dealer tuned it for me as part of the sale
Put your meter pulse per round to 4.4 that will match the actual speed your going to the speed showing on the cluster. The actual speed is about 2mph slower than what the car is showing on the screen
Can I contact you ?
I keep getting a "Drive or program updated, need to reload this viewer!" warning on software and cannot progress. any suggestions?
I got that too! and no GREEN, stays RED
Great video, thanks for sharing!
I bricked my cart. Can you send me a copy of your favorite tune?
thank you for this video.
Anyone find the software for a Mac yet ?
I actually have a full manual for this software and what everything means and help with doing it .
Email it to me: archifxmail@gmail.com
@@Archifx did you get it
@@desmondgriffin3924do you still have the manual to send? Thanks
Appreciate you. Thanks.
Does anyone know why my software is telling me there in a file in the icon live data folder missing ? 302 file ?
older version of the software.
Anyone try this on advanced ev carts?
Help not working
Thanks !!
Thanks
Why 53.3 ?? Whay not 50 or 40..
That’s the max setting. No idea why it’s like that but 53.3 is the default maximum value it will take. Lesser numbers offset the voltage logic.
It's 33MPH. I think that setting is in kilometers so it appears an odd number to US.
Need help
You are taking risks over riding the CPU! We call this a Tune or Tuning. It will void the warranty and everything that is electronic. What it is that the parameters are being extended outside the factory setting.
False. The system has fail safes built into its software to disallow erroneous data inputs. Warranty… who gives a shit. They’re built like tanks. Something fails.. reup your factory defaults prior to calling them. There
consult with dealer....LOL...the consultation will be "dont"
Need talk
Where can I get the program for this ?