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  • Shane and Ealan go over their Top 5 picks for the worst looking 4k blurays. What's on your list?
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  • @therealshanelee
    @therealshanelee  ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *FULL EPISODE HERE*
    th-cam.com/video/GzjuS0RewPk/w-d-xo.html

  • @breadordecide
    @breadordecide ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Shocked to see District 9 make the list. I consider that to be a reference quality disc. To each his own I suppose.

    • @naderzein2435
      @naderzein2435 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Agreed, I think it looks great don't know how that makes someones worst five list lol.

    • @breadordecide
      @breadordecide ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@naderzein2435
      And the movie didnt live up? What? Its a masterpiece.

    • @naderzein2435
      @naderzein2435 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@breadordecide yeah I love the film even beyond the picture quality it's just a great movie.

    • @jeffcunningham0389
      @jeffcunningham0389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That guy has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about and had the worst takes. Like i wont watch another vid if he’s featured. Completely worthless

    • @ItsameMatt
      @ItsameMatt ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not an upgrade in the slightest. It literally looks just like the blu-ray.

  • @WedlakeProductions
    @WedlakeProductions ปีที่แล้ว +47

    District 9 is an excellent 4K disc. Given the style of the film and the 2K DI, I was surprised by how incredible it looked.

    • @Braconara1981
      @Braconara1981 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep same here

    • @themysteriouslifeofvic419
      @themysteriouslifeofvic419 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank youuu I was thinking the same thing

    • @mousec2600
      @mousec2600 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I had to disagree with him on this one, too. To me it looked fantastic, and it sounded amazing as well. I had no complaints.

    • @SonicDriveStudio
      @SonicDriveStudio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Looked amazing to me in 4k!

    • @irish7460
      @irish7460 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same. Thought I was imagining things. Looks superb. Ealan should return that disc.

  • @mcarr416ix
    @mcarr416ix ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I disagree with District 9 being bad, I loved it on 4K and I loved the film even after multiple watches. Still got my fingers crossed for the sequel at some point!

    • @NiceGuyAidey
      @NiceGuyAidey ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ageed , he's wrong on what he says, its a much better upgrade on the blu ray, not sure what hes viewing on.

    • @chrisjfox8715
      @chrisjfox8715 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah I'm not sure what was going on with his setup. It's actual one of the 4Ks that makes for a decent enough demo disc

    • @mcarr416ix
      @mcarr416ix ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@chrisjfox8715 yeah I honestly don't get it. I thought the video and audio were both a 4/5. Everyone's entitled to an opinion even if they are wrong 😂

    • @chrisjfox8715
      @chrisjfox8715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mcarr416ix setups and settings matter tho. We too often share our opinion on transfers as if we're comparing apples to apples and that oftentimes, if not always, isn't the case. People can only comment on what they see with their own two eyes

    • @mcarr416ix
      @mcarr416ix ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisjfox8715 very true, being that both of these fellows are well known film buffs though, it's hard to imagine they are viewing these films in a sub par setup or scenario. Shane definitely is NOT viewing anything on a non optimal setup.

  • @Jumpman67
    @Jumpman67 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I've watched a few of his videos and I'm starting to think Shane has bad taste in movies. I don't mean his eye for detail. He's obviously very good at that. But his taste in what a good movie is, is suspect.

    • @zuffin1864
      @zuffin1864 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm gonna give u a good recommendation, Ip Man: The Final Fight, is awesome! Give me a recommendation too :)

    • @donjaun540
      @donjaun540 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He likes the movie 🍿 Barbie 🤪

    • @sixfeetunder0105
      @sixfeetunder0105 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@donjaun540 well the movie was good and mostly liked and had the best box office of the year when almost everything was tanking so… maybe some people dont like it which is fine, cant win everybody iver but really lol ?

  • @Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r
    @Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Disney's new remastering team is absolutely terrible. They love adding DNR to every movie shot on film and it makes the viewing experience awful.

    • @honzagomela5800
      @honzagomela5800 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Their 4K restorations are not bad, but their treatment of 2k DIs is shameful

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      do not give Disney your hard earned money - they are a disgrace!

    • @TheJustina102085
      @TheJustina102085 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found the audio sucks as well. I watched Andor and thought they missed sooo many opportunities when mixing the audio.

    • @TheJustina102085
      @TheJustina102085 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GamezGuru1 man I’m so tempted. They put out crap for the most part and I’m tired of the whole agenda. They’ve ruined some good opportunities with Marvel and Star wars etc. They honestly don’t deserve your money, they take it for granted for sure. This is coming from someone who grew up in “Disney Family” haha from movies to the parks, it’s all gone down hill…

    • @Mowglibaloo2
      @Mowglibaloo2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      New graduates

  • @_z4ch4ri4s_
    @_z4ch4ri4s_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    District 9 is one of the best 4k transfers I have seen.......

  • @MsUltraBob
    @MsUltraBob ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I prefer my LotR 4k blurrays over the extended editions blurray because the colour palette is much better and the green tint is finally gone (it was extremely noticeable in the fellowship of the ring). The Dolby Atmos sound is also an improvement. I agree they could have done a better job but it is still better than the normal blurray especially on a big screen.

  • @naderzein2435
    @naderzein2435 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Phantom Menace is actually the only prequel that is actually shot on film. It's just DNR'd to hell!

    • @FiftyShadesOfDave6603
      @FiftyShadesOfDave6603 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True! Think it was shot on 35mm film..can't believe they botched the 4k transfer.

    • @dark_oz1974
      @dark_oz1974 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FiftyShadesOfDave6603 wasn't phantom menace shot digitally?

    • @marcusstrinidad
      @marcusstrinidad ปีที่แล้ว

      It has so much CGI I would assume it would be mastered in a 2k digital intermediary, so them shooting on film wouldn’t do much for a 4K remaster as say Lawrence of Arabia being shot on 35mm.

  • @snpagy
    @snpagy ปีที่แล้ว +37

    LOTR is interesting because it does have the “shitty smoothing” but i did appreciate the touch ups, tint change etc.

    • @jeffjefferson7384
      @jeffjefferson7384 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Agreed. It's not perfect but it's still an upgrade from the Blu-Rays. FOTR now also isn't relentlessly green.

    • @KRIL89
      @KRIL89 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jeffjefferson7384 that’s the best part. That green tint is just AWFUL

    • @sgandrew
      @sgandrew ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed, I also love the audio improvement. I know its not what this list is but that belrog showing up is wow

    • @b4rs629
      @b4rs629 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sgandrew Battle of Helms deep is so much clearer and you can actually see what's happening in way more detail over the blu-ray which automatically makes it awesome for me. Return of the King visually is stunning as well.

  • @Pocketkid2
    @Pocketkid2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Speaking of beloved franchises, the Jurassic Park trilogy does not look as good as it should on 4K Bluray

    • @marlonrobalino
      @marlonrobalino ปีที่แล้ว

      I only agree with the 1st film, that one is in need a remaster from the 35 mm print. The lost world is an excellent transfer that looks great, no complaints there. Jurassic park 3 though is a mix feeling for me. It needs help with brightness and colors greatly but the actual transfer is excellent though.

    • @Pocketkid2
      @Pocketkid2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marlonrobalino Good point, I’ve only seen the 4K versions of TLW and JP3 once and that was a while ago so they’re probably better than I remember

    • @breadordecide
      @breadordecide ปีที่แล้ว

      JP3 looked worse than the bluray!

  • @LILGHETTI
    @LILGHETTI ปีที่แล้ว +13

    4k77-83 are better than the official 4k blu-ray which is crazy! The fan restoration from theatrical prints.
    Eternals definitely looks so dark and crushed, really bad.

    • @user-zk2kv2qt1q
      @user-zk2kv2qt1q ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. I can't wait for Star Wars 4k80

  • @ScottCastle
    @ScottCastle ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's a shame how lazy the big franchise movies are with their 4k releases.

  • @PaulGilmore44
    @PaulGilmore44 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I interviewed Nicholas Meyer and he talked about the way ST2 was shot. All the scenes with the Enterprise crew was shot with soft focus to smooth the skin textures to make the aging crew members look younger.

    • @dpastor6631
      @dpastor6631 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, it wasn't some "older" technology.

    • @JimElford
      @JimElford หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which is ironic given the movie was about ageing.

  • @SoapNugget
    @SoapNugget ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Terminator 2 is easily the worst 4K of all time, I only got it cause it was like $7

    • @jeffjefferson7384
      @jeffjefferson7384 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We need some kind of Harmy Despecialised version without the permanent blue tint.

    • @ScruffyWarlord
      @ScruffyWarlord ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually terminator 2 is no longer the worst looking 4k. Pirates is the worst now.

    • @bennetttramer9190
      @bennetttramer9190 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man I'm glad I heard that I was about to buy it the other day. It was only $14 but I'm still glad I saved the money. They'll probably come out with a new better transfer in the future right?

    • @SoapNugget
      @SoapNugget ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bennetttramer9190 nope

    • @robertfaulkner1824
      @robertfaulkner1824 ปีที่แล้ว

      The German iron man beats it. That thing is trash

  • @ScruffyWarlord
    @ScruffyWarlord ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys must be smoking with District 9 being on this list. It's an easily 4/5 disc.

  • @jeffjefferson7384
    @jeffjefferson7384 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The real question should be = Would you prefer having LOTR in Blu-Ray or the new 4K versions? Just because the 4K version isn't the best quality that the UHD format can possibly offer, doesn't mean they're trash. Agreed on the Star Wars 1-6 boxset though. Yikes.

    • @Slask7
      @Slask7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not trash.... but it’s one of those titles that should’ve been treated sooooo much better. Jackson clearly is in love with digital, but he should’ve left the original trilogy with its filmic look instead of “DNRing the s*** out of it”....

    • @leapingtortoise
      @leapingtortoise ปีที่แล้ว +7

      THANK YOU! All these reviews of "this movie looked terrible on 4k Blu-ray" they never answer the question "should you get the 1080p instead." I recently picked up Terminator 2 because I don't have that movie. I looked at the Blu-ray and I looked at the 4k Blu-ray and to my eyes the 4k Blu-ray was better. Not claiming it's amazing, but it was better.
      Only movie I've seen that may qualify for get the 1080p version was Pirates because the 4k Blu-ray was so dark on my screen that I literally couldn't see what was going on in daylight shots. I've heard better displays do a better job of fixing it up, but yeah.
      Harry Potter? LotR? District 9? Heck even T2 - All of them look better on the 4k disc than their 1080p counterparts and you'd never know that from reviewers on TH-cam. I only know it because I spent the extra couple of bucks.

    • @stevenlornie1261
      @stevenlornie1261 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Folks talk out of their arse with LoTR. The 4k isn't perfect but it's a noticeable upgrade from the bluray.

    • @KBWrecker
      @KBWrecker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The sound mix was also upgraded. That is an objective improvement for the 4k

  • @PeterRabbit4Eva
    @PeterRabbit4Eva ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I disagreed with District 9 and Harry Potter Collections.
    District 9 is a pure reference disc with excellent picture and super sound, only the 1st HP movie has the worst looking picture, HP 2-3 has too much DNR going on, only HP 4 till 7.2 has good picture quality in it, I thinks the black noise that Ealan was mentioning about it are coming from the first 3 bc ever since the 4th it getting better since.

  • @MrDoddi1984
    @MrDoddi1984 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LOTR looks amazing in 4K.
    They've improved immensely on the picture & sound quality!!!

    • @dan_hitchman007
      @dan_hitchman007 ปีที่แล้ว

      But the DNR is pretty bad.

    • @MrDoddi1984
      @MrDoddi1984 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dan_hitchman007
      Depends on what kind of TV people have.
      On a tv that supports all the new changes they've made on this transfer, it is the best LOTR has ever looked.
      I've owned both DVD & BLU-RAY of these movies and this 4K is a way better upgrade on the picture quality from those 2 imo!!!

    • @dan_hitchman007
      @dan_hitchman007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrDoddi1984 Not really. The heavy DNR is still there no matter the display you have. Perhaps you have your sharpness setting turned up. Most 4k displays need that set at zero. The additional problem is that it is used inconsistently where some shots have a bit of detail and then others are a smeary mess, all in the same sequence.

  • @renanhaanstra3118
    @renanhaanstra3118 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I feel like LOTR is great on 4k, I hate the green tint on the blu-rays and the 4k feels more naturally

    • @Nick-4K
      @Nick-4K ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah... He got that one wrong. Haha

    • @jackburton2946
      @jackburton2946 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nick-4K No he didn't.

  • @SWATTECHNOLOGIES
    @SWATTECHNOLOGIES ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To not see the difference between the 2009 Star Trek blu-ray's and the recent 4K scans means his eyes are faulty. It truly is night and day and the 2009 blu-ray's looked awful, especially in comparison. What a bizarre thing for him to say and observe.

    • @JimElford
      @JimElford หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed capsaholic shows the huge bump in detail and colour range

  • @salehkambijo1849
    @salehkambijo1849 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are they differences between play 4k Blu-ray throw usb and Blu-ray 📀 disc?
    Or can usb flash display good 4k hdr contents as good as normal disc?

  • @Prodrummer1603
    @Prodrummer1603 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Have to disagree with Ealan on Harry Potter. I wouldn't say they are reference Material but there is a noticeable improvement Over the Blurays.
    Part 1 and 2 got a new 4k DI and Look much sharper and Detailed than the Standard BluRay. Grain is more noticeable but that is to be expected. Contrast and colors Look Better too.
    The Blu-ray of Part 3 was so DARK that you couldn't See anything in the Shadow. The 4k Version resolves that issue. Its still a dark and muted movies (as are Part 4-8) but that's Done Intentionally.
    It represents the Mood of the wizarding World. And the spells have that nice HDR Impact.
    Some cgi effects from the first movies don't hold Up But that's Not on the 4k Transfer itself.
    A 4k Blu-ray should Show a movie in its Most Natural Form and that's what they do.
    I would Take the 4k Version Over the Bluray everyday. They are technically the much Better Versions.
    Agree on Shane that the DNR in LOTR is one of the worst i have ever Seen. But the HDR and colorgrading are amazing. Thats why i wouldn't Put IT on my top 5. I still prefer the 4k Version Over the older Blurays. The theatrical Blu-ray was even smoother and more waxy than the 4k edition.
    The extended Blu-ray was sharper and had No DNR but Had this horrible Green Tint and black crush.
    So: Pick your poison
    My worst would be:
    Cornetto Trilogy
    Bourne Trilogy

    • @WH250398
      @WH250398 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Harry Potter collection is good indeed. Half Blood Prince suffered from severe black crush. None of it is on the 4k.

  • @debbiesroommate
    @debbiesroommate ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Next time I can't fall asleep, I'll put your video on

    • @therealshanelee
      @therealshanelee  ปีที่แล้ว

      Next time I want to understand stupid I'll come back and read this comment.

    • @debbiesroommate
      @debbiesroommate ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@therealshanelee Your response was as boring as your video

    • @therealshanelee
      @therealshanelee  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@debbiesroommate this comment was even stupider than the last one. Keep trying.

  • @dsr0116
    @dsr0116 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Star Trek 5 and 6 have come out on 4K. Of all the Star Trek movies, I thought 5 was the worst (maybe they didn't spend much time on that one because of it being the least popular). For the original blu-rays, there were people who didn't like any of the movies: saying they all had too much DNR. I did find that was really true for ST 6. However, the 4K is a definite improvement. Also about District 9: it is listed as upscaled 4K. But keep in mind that a studio master has slightly larger 2K resolution than HD. That plus the fact that video masters were in HDR color spaces, it's going to still potentially have an improvement over BD. RE: Shaun of the Dead....yes, those movies were shot on film: which does have a limited dynamic range (depending on scenario, the shot would either have to have blown out parts or they could compensate with camera techniques). The newest digital cameras have better dynamic range, so it's easier to not have blown out skies.

  • @MrCtmcclain
    @MrCtmcclain ปีที่แล้ว +7

    despite the disappointing presentations of the hobbit and the lord of the rings. I thought the 4k presentation of the movies (even for the theatrical editions) was pretty good on Amazon Prime. I particularly like the 4k of the two towers as an improvement over the 4k blu-ray.

    • @mcarr416ix
      @mcarr416ix ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Despite the DNR with LotR I still thought the improved and more natural color pallet made it an upgrade over non 4K release. I have it on Blu Ray and 4K. The environments and cinematography also look leagues better on 4K. I had no issues with the Hobbit trilogy, thought it looked better than the Blu Ray across the board.

    • @MrCtmcclain
      @MrCtmcclain ปีที่แล้ว

      I know the comment I made is about a month old, but I wanted to make one correction. As a typo, when I said I particularly liked the 4k of two towers over the 4k blu-ray. I mean to say over the original blu-ray, because I don't have (or have watched) the 4k blu-ray of "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers". Only the presentation on amazon prime. My bad.

    • @MrCtmcclain
      @MrCtmcclain ปีที่แล้ว

      I was rushed tying the first comment which is where to typo came from so my bad.

  • @dylansroberts8833
    @dylansroberts8833 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Totally agree with the Harry Potter criticism. When I got my 4k collection from Amazon, I thought I had been sold a bootleg copy haha

  • @WedlakeProductions
    @WedlakeProductions ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for mentioning Lord of the Rings, I am still amazed how so many "professional" reviewers don't mention the heavy DNR and edge sharpening.

    • @robertfaulkner1824
      @robertfaulkner1824 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’d say Shane manages to throw shAde at LOTR in like 30 percent of every video of his I’ve watched.

    • @MarquezDaniel
      @MarquezDaniel ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember getting the 4k set for a good deal and when it came home I was super excited to watch it because of all the great reviews it was getting but then when I started to watch it I wasn't at all impressed. Yes the HDR is great and still think it's the best way to watch the trilogy but the level of detail just isn't there and the film grain is practically gone now. It's definitely not the best looking but I still prefer it over the blu ray releases.

    • @zanfear
      @zanfear ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MarquezDaniel "the level of detail just isn't there and the film grain is practically gone now" + "It's definitely not the best looking" seems to totally disagree with "it's the best way to watch the trilogy".

    • @MarquezDaniel
      @MarquezDaniel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zanfear how so? If I lived in a small town and someone asked me what's the best Pizza spot here so I point them to the best one this town has to offer, sure it's not the greatest pizza ever but it's the best one in town. It's the same concept with the Lord of the Rings 4k trilogy, it's not the greatest looking 4K but it's still better than the DVD and Blu Ray.

    • @zanfear
      @zanfear ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MarquezDaniel But if the film is visually less detailed now, then what's the point? For the flashy HDR colours and the object-based surround sound? Do those outweigh a more detailed blu-ray SDR presentation with already great surround sound?

  • @brianboardwell1986
    @brianboardwell1986 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I mostly disagree with Star Wars Empire Strikes Back. The Hoth scenes don’t look as good but all The Dagobah and Bespin scenes I’m pretty happy with. You can definitely see more detail on Vader when he’s in the shadows on Bespin. Yoda looks great too

  • @sleeman9
    @sleeman9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Add the upcoming Planes, Trains and Automobiles to the worst list.

    • @matteoromenghi
      @matteoromenghi ปีที่แล้ว

      Really?
      The best comedy movie of the '80's!

    • @sleeman9
      @sleeman9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@matteoromenghi Yes. It's very unfortunate. Heavy DNR, waxy face, unwatchable for me.

    • @MrEdWeirdoShow
      @MrEdWeirdoShow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      PTA was always one of the dullest duds I ever saw. Now it now also looks like a loser? Good!
      For a classic Candy film of the '80s, that would of course be Uncle Buck.

  • @DarkKnight-gw4gw
    @DarkKnight-gw4gw ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ealan nailed it on the Marvel non-IMAX issue. This annoys me to no end and keeps me from purchases various movies on physical media. Another case-in-point is the latest Dune movie. How in the world does a studio release a movie like Dune without its enhanced aspect ratios??? This movie was made for IMAX-enhanced and the disc is sufficiently hindered without offering it. It is for this reason that even with the Black Friday pricing of only $9.99 I refuse to purchase Dune, and HOPE that they release the IMAX-enhanced version someday, maybe even in the distant future when the trilogy is completed and released in a set 🤞

    • @razahyder8541
      @razahyder8541 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ll never understand why WB didn’t release Dune with the IMAX ratio 🙄 WB used to be the best studio for that. Now it’s Paramount

  • @pstanger1984
    @pstanger1984 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    LOTR looked amazing compared to The Bourne Trilogy.

    • @SensibleChuckle
      @SensibleChuckle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True but I hold LOTR to much higher standards.

  • @familiatrois3813
    @familiatrois3813 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would add the 4K release of ‘King Kong’ to the list. Way too much DNR used throughout the transfer. Funny that you have included Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Ring series! I also preferred Michael Mann’s’ Blu-ray release of ‘Heat’ over the 4K. As we head into the holidays, I’ve found the “aliasing” found on the 4K release of ‘A Charlie Brown Christmas’ to be a distraction.

    • @totalplonker824
      @totalplonker824 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm interested in purchasing Lord of the Rings movie set (preferably in Atmos) any pointers would be appreciated.

  • @MrJjburgess11
    @MrJjburgess11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How is the Robocop 4k? Is it worth getting if you already have it on Blu Ray?

  • @Bu2023
    @Bu2023 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    T2 and LotT would have been on my list, too! Too much DNR, just as Shane says. The Potter Series looks very good though. Especially the first two that got newly remastered from the negatives. But how you perceive this, heavily depends on your perception of grain as either sth. organic or as nuisance. And the latter often goes back to the fact that many viewers have kept the original (or dialed up the) sharpness settings on their projectors or TVs instead of reducing them to a minimum as intended. Thanks for the video!

    • @billyobfas6962
      @billyobfas6962 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lord of the rings still has better colours and contrast. The amount of noise reduction is overblown. Barely any scenes in the movies you can tell

    • @tonyorob
      @tonyorob 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I prefer to see movies recorded as our eyes percieve images in real life, so there can NEVER be too much digital noise reduction for my taste. I really dislike any percievable film grain. Its an eye sore to me. It contradicts the whole purpose of 4K clarity, which is to precisely bring out the minute detail of images. So apart from the HDR upgrade, it makes no sense for people who like film grain to even buy 4K discs. 🤷‍♂️

    • @wolfbrigade8042
      @wolfbrigade8042 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tonyorob That's a pretty bad take. By applying too much noise reduction to remove film grain, you actively scrub away detail of the picture itself. Small details like skin pores and wrinkles just get smoothed over too and not just the grain and it makes everyone and everything look like wax figures. If a movie was shot on film, you want as much grain to be intact as possible to get the highest grade of detail.

    • @tonyorob
      @tonyorob 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wolfbrigade8042 Not according to a dvd of the 1976 Assault In Precinct 13 I have. It was originally shot on 8mm but when digitally remastered for the disk it came out pristine without any discernable fuzzyness and skin textures of the characters looks very natural. Its just a regular outdated dvd.

    • @wolfbrigade8042
      @wolfbrigade8042 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tonyorob A "regular outdated dvd" wouldn't be a good point of reference anyways, no? Not sure what point you were trying to make but film grain is actually good for the picture as it's responsible for a lot of the detail. It's fine not liking film grain but for older movies shot on film, you definitely wanna have it to get the best and most accurate picture.

  • @marcedwards5583
    @marcedwards5583 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just watched the Cornetto Trilogy 4k and thought they all looked pretty good and the sound was the best I’ve heard yet for the three films. District 9 was also an impressive release.

  • @willmahoney2452
    @willmahoney2452 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ealan, I’m with you there on the MCU films. It’s Disney screwing around since we know from other films like say MAVERICK and half of Nolan’s output have shifting ratios.

  • @jessechristensen6028
    @jessechristensen6028 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There needs to be review copies sent out before these are sent to the public to resolve these issues.

  • @jjchmiel78
    @jjchmiel78 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could some of this badness be related to funky disc or player? As an example Saving Private Ryan. First time I watched the disc I thought it looked horrible and didn't understand the reviews. I watched on an LG UB870 that did not not have Dolby Vision. When I got a LG UBK90 which does and played that disc it was a world of difference. Another movie The Shallows. My particular disc plays but a lot of the audio and action has a stuttering issue. Borrowed my friends disc and it played fine. On my setup with my discs Harry Potter looks great!

  • @branscombe_
    @branscombe_ ปีที่แล้ว

    just picked up sunshine of the spotless mind, and it was pretty rough from the source and almost disorienting. Only a few scenes on the beach were clear.

  • @alexmueller828
    @alexmueller828 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd have to disagree on the Star Trek 4Ks. And while I think the LotR 4Ks have their problems, I think it is kinda crazy to put them on a top 5 WORST list. And telling people there's a problem with their eyes if they happen to like the LotR 4Ks... really?

  • @kaden50374
    @kaden50374 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am curious if the kaleidescape versions of star wars looks better than the discs. Each film looks to be 15-20GB larger than the discs.

    • @dan_hitchman007
      @dan_hitchman007 ปีที่แล้ว

      The heavy DNR is baked into the consumer masters used for the KScape and 4k Blu-ray releases.

  • @chadlionsfan5057
    @chadlionsfan5057 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Disney is a theme behind most of your pics if you notice, Star Wars, pirates, avengers!!!!

  • @irish7460
    @irish7460 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    District 9 looks superb imo. But he's bang on about the Maarvel series. Effing hate Disnaey.

  • @RicardoGarcia-xz1rz
    @RicardoGarcia-xz1rz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grease is the worst 4K blu-ray I have seen in my life. Every white zone is hyper over softed and bad color corrected there are some moments that real shots looked fake like the musical car scene ☹️ The Lord of the rings is a pretty good master, you can see they have the correct colors in all the Rivendell scenes, not like the DVD when they are orange, in the cinema prints they weren't.

  • @onlyzach1
    @onlyzach1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1. T2: Judgement Day.
    2. Black Panther. The crushed black levels esp at the beginning in the challenge scene are horrible. I still feel Disney owes us a replacement for the 4K release. The standard Blu-ray looks great there. Also bought the 3D release (when I had my LG 55OLEDC6 TV in my living room).
    3. Kick-Ass. Think the Blu-ray looks better.
    4. Charlies Angels (2000). Ditto.
    5. Forest Gump. Based on reviews, haven't seen it.
    Honorable Mentions: Totally agree on the MCU IMAX Enhanced D+ versions: Those look so good, won't be buying any more MCU 4K releases till they give us those on 4K Blu-ray. LOTR Trilogy: Thought the discs sounded great, but pitcher was kinda meh. Star Wars (I-VI): Based on reports, only bought ANH & ROTS on 4K Blu-ray.

  • @philbo1
    @philbo1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with Ealan I have the same Harry Potter collection - sound is excellent but image very poor for such iconic movies.

  • @miloa.2684
    @miloa.2684 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m surprised nobody has mentioned King Kong (2004). There’s a lot of DNR and I’ve seen in some other shots what seems to be over sharpening

  • @jacobmacdonagh4070
    @jacobmacdonagh4070 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you sure that isn’t just UK skies with the Hot Fuzz 4K? A lot days here are completely cloud covered so the sky is very blown out almost

  • @Bluboy30
    @Bluboy30 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree with Shane about Lord of the Rings, PQ looked pretty bad. The only reason to get the set is for the Atmos sound. Can't agree with Ealan about the Harry Potter films, I thought they look great. Also, all of the Potter films were shot on film. For me, the worst looking 4K disc that I've seen is The Bourne Identity. It looked like a complete up-converted from the 1080p disc. It's a disgusting looking disc.

    • @stevenlornie1261
      @stevenlornie1261 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you get a different set to me? My copy looks good.

    • @Bluboy30
      @Bluboy30 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenlornie1261 Are you referring to The Lord of the Rings 4k discs? If so, then I thought the Lord of the Rings 4K discs didn't look that much better than their regular Blu-ray counterparts. But of course, this is all subjective. What you see on your display will look different than mine.

  • @jhberg17
    @jhberg17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The directors cut of Star Trek the Motion Picture is outstanding. Don’t know if you are referring to the earlier discs.

  • @ssthapit
    @ssthapit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The list is useful but no way the video needed to be 26 minutes. So....much .....padding.

  • @matthouston8411
    @matthouston8411 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that T2 sells for $11 max is proof that if the 4k disc is crap the studio will sell it for cheap, knowing people will stay away otherwise.

  • @screatyswote3035
    @screatyswote3035 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to see that I'm not crazy. I wasn't very impressed with the LOTR trilogy either and so I found it surprising that it did so well in the review community.

    • @frankvee
      @frankvee ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wonder how much of that is caused by "influencers". They're everywhere, and their mission is to hype things up, create buzz in the community with the goal of maximizing sales.

  • @spikewilliam
    @spikewilliam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the same list as yours Shane. I'll sadly have to add Aliens, True Lies, Titanic and Abyss... DNR & AI upscale fest... with zero work on the color profile.
    You can check my latest video on my Aliens comparison with my own upscale & HDR color grading work.
    Can't wait toi see your new setup. 😊

  • @JebberGamingJaws
    @JebberGamingJaws 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was bamboozled by all the youtube reviews saying LOTR 4K was amazing. I turned it on and was like…. What the hell is this crap?? DNR disaster.

  • @CryWolf-sm9iw
    @CryWolf-sm9iw ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta ask why about the IMAX ratio ? Personally I find it annoying when they swap out the ratios especially on Christopher Nolan movies. I don’t see any difference in the picture quality. All I notice is it goes from black bars to no black bars back to black bars. Am I missing something ?

    • @jimroscovius
      @jimroscovius 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No black bars filled the screen more. Watch the opening scene from The Dark Knight in 4K. It looks awesome!!

  • @cinemaarchivesnirvana2847
    @cinemaarchivesnirvana2847 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which Star Trek film are you running down ? Star Trek began in the 1960s BTW nor the 70s . What type of displays do you guys use ?

    • @JimElford
      @JimElford หลายเดือนก่อน

      The movies started in 1979

  • @joes3800
    @joes3800 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harry Potter, yes. I have another: Sonic the Hedgehog. I just upgraded to an LG G2 from and "old" and dim C6. It is amazing how much BRIGHTER most content is to me now. So I was looking forward to yet another viewing of Sonic the Hedgehog with my 5-yo daughter because I thought my old TV was making the picture too dim. But no: Sonic the Hedgehog is just a very dim movie. Scenes outdoors in full sun should be vibrant, right? Not so in this movie, and indoor scenes are even worse.

    • @fredp8388
      @fredp8388 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just watched sonic on my a90f and thought the picture was also too dimmed. The movie must be set in the late afternoon when shot lol

    • @jacobscarberry4799
      @jacobscarberry4799 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Sonic looks great!

  • @4luvofmovies485
    @4luvofmovies485 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me. Keeping up with the jones, this was a freebie when I bought my Sony 4K player. I picked it because it was a pretty good comedy. Put it in and wow crap. Looks like a upscale for sure but yeah pretty bad

  • @letstalkcriterion
    @letstalkcriterion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    on the Star Trek The Motion Picture - the later relesae of the Directors Cut is far superior - this film had a 70mm print Paramount utilised many different original elements and the Dir cut release was delayed some months before its release.

  • @arcticwolf2424
    @arcticwolf2424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how “the worst” 4K’s are like my prised possession box sets. Also I don’t thing the skywalk we sega is a bad 4K, especially the originals. They look great on 4K in my opinion.
    Edit: I don’t and don’t plan on getting T2 on 4K. I have seen the comparisons and how bad it looks.

  • @forsetha
    @forsetha ปีที่แล้ว

    For me, West Side Story really annoyed me when it was released on home media. The 4K was noticeably washed out compared to the Blu-ray and the 4K D+ stream. It looked like an HDR video playing on an SDR display.

  • @joewhip9303
    @joewhip9303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw the Star Trek movies in the theater. The 4K versions are way better than any prior home release. They look great on my 83 inch screen. The films looked like that in the theater. Stop applying modern digital photography to older films.

  • @DDS23
    @DDS23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harry Potter 4k boxset are one of the wurst 4k transfers I have ever seen. These movies are dark shot movies, and looks like they have done nothing to these movies to improve picture quality. Looks like watching regular blu-ray instead of a 4k transfer. luckily i only paid around 40€ for this 4k boxset.

  • @steve1085
    @steve1085 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didnt mine Harry Potter on 4k. Used jt with Sony 4k projector and it came through nicely

  • @Dankzzz
    @Dankzzz ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for yhe tip on avoiding. Lotr, already have the boxset and hobbit on Blu-ray.

  • @shawntaylor7442
    @shawntaylor7442 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 worst 4k happen to be my all-time favorite movie and one I waited practically my whole life to get on an official disc release. Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory and RAD. WW doesn't pop, with all those bright colors and it's a snowy mess of grain. RAD I can understand the source was probably low quality, but man I think I'd rather watch a VHS. Especially after dropping $50

  • @darraghkane18
    @darraghkane18 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Phantom Menace was shot on 35mm film. According to Lucas two scenes were shot on digital.

  • @hornick18
    @hornick18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew it had to be T2. What the hell were they thinking when they made that

  • @billystutz55
    @billystutz55 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why are these guys talking like they are afraid they’ll wake up their parents??

    • @mrb0775
      @mrb0775 ปีที่แล้ว

      You sure hit the nail on the head with that comment!! Because my wife just sat with me in our living room, checking her emails, while I had a laptop play this video on our 85" TV. And after she'd heard a few minutes of Shane and his co-host listing their 5 Worst 4k Blu-ray picks, she turned to me & said: "Those 2 gentlemen are so low key and laid back, in their commentary styles, that their soft way of speaking could easily cause a person to start dozing off." And after she heard about 15 minutes more of the video, my wife noted that Shane, in particular, tends to soften his voice as he is completing a point, as if he thinks that such softening will give emphasis to whatever idea he's trying to highlight, BUT actually, such softening just UNDERPLAYS what he's saying, instead of making a point strongly! Now if a typed symbol existed which meant the OPPOSITE of an exclamation point (!), and someone would make a transcript of Shane's remarks in this video, such an Anti-Exclamation Symbol would be PERFECT for putting at the end of several of Shane's spoken sentences of the video, so folks reading the transcript would clearly understand how Shane had been undercutting his own points in certain sentences, by using his overly soft delivery style. However, the Mrs & I sure both agree that Shane's hushed way of speaking would sure be ideally suited for getting a nap resistant 3 year old girl, of my wife's family, to calm down, & have her easing off into dreamland. He has the perfect voice for that!!

  • @agentahmed7350
    @agentahmed7350 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THANK YOU, Shane. I can't speak about the book series (I've never even read a single page of them but I can be pretty sure they're more enjoyable cos of the nature of books as a medium), but the Harry Potter films bar 'Philosopher's Stone' (yes, not 'Sorcerer's Stone) and 'Chamber of Secrets' are absolute borefests and the colour palettes of them are equally so.

  • @feltclover2998
    @feltclover2998 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    LOTR looked really good. The 4k had a few shots that looked a bit smooth or waxy, but overall looked amazing.

    • @Nick-4K
      @Nick-4K ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think his projector might just be bugged out, cause he also mentions that Forest Gump 4K was as bad as Terminator 2. And Gump looked amazing on OLED. So I'm not quite sure what is going on. Haha

  • @steverosales2616
    @steverosales2616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this Duo ❤

  • @jessechristensen6028
    @jessechristensen6028 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay in the last two Harry Potter films can be a little slow. But come on Shane!

  • @donjaun540
    @donjaun540 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with you Shane. There should be a real industry standard to make these industries follow when they put a hire price tag and say a much better movie experience when you get this movie 🎥 on kaleidoscape. 🤪

  • @donjaun540
    @donjaun540 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Harry Pottermans blacks in movie is horrible. Movies are great Shane but the noise is easily spotable.

  • @Reggaebeatman
    @Reggaebeatman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    add to that list American Graffiti.!!!...i wonder how Abyse, True Lies and Titanic will look on4k which are to be released very soon. Worst4k i have is 1970s King Kong...great film btw however transfer looks so rough , they messed up the colours. Some scenes look clean while other look like they skipped.

  • @bojatr1
    @bojatr1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Home Alone 4K was horrible I did not notice it between that and the Bluray

  • @Mr.77776
    @Mr.77776 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Weird Science, Planes Trains And Automobiles, And Texas Chainsaw Massacre are my worst ones.

  • @manborn
    @manborn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for saving me from wasting money

  • @dandaigle007
    @dandaigle007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't agree with Lord of the rings. I thought it looked much better than it's blue ray counterparts. To each their own I guess.

  • @chadlionsfan5057
    @chadlionsfan5057 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched 2nd Star Trek, on a new 4K tv and honestly wasn’t blown away by it…..

  • @dslking
    @dslking ปีที่แล้ว

    Goodfellas is one that should probably be on there. The transfer is bad.
    T2 is bad in a lot of scenes with DNR especially the bar scene. The future war scenes look good along with some others. It's not a total waste of a disc. Heard Space Jam is pretty bad also

  • @hhectorlector
    @hhectorlector 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wild hearing Game Sack mentioned here. I’m a big fan of that channel

  • @Coneman3
    @Coneman3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bad digital films are probably never going to be worth buying as 4ks.

  • @CodyHimselfXI
    @CodyHimselfXI ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought T2 looked amazing until I went back and watched it on VHS, hell even Blu-ray.......

  • @siriusshabazz7746
    @siriusshabazz7746 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought bro had Spock ear when I looked up and you were talking about Star Trek. It's the color headset.

  • @Nick-4K
    @Nick-4K ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Woah. I have to disagree with the Lord of the Rings 4Ks. I think it looks amazing. It's like watching the movies for the first time all over again. Infact, I'm a 4K collector because of this collection. But I watched on OLED. So maybe that is why it looked incredible.

    • @fingthepuni6667
      @fingthepuni6667 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I'm not quite sure why, but it seems to me that LOTR movie trilogies do not interest Shane Lee, or perhaps its not his cup of tea? He does in fact says and admits that he falls asleep/lala land while watching LOTR movies and/or the Harry Potter series. Perhaps he and other people like him, don't have the patience to watch movies that are 3 plus hours long? Anyhow, I still enjoy very much watching Mr. Lee's product(s) reviews on home theatre receivers/amps, movie projectors and other home theatre things. :)

    • @SensibleChuckle
      @SensibleChuckle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What the battle where strider goes over the cliff. You'd think their faces had the worst makeup ever.
      The smear and then sharp catch-up is a real thing in the series.
      The second movie had the most bad shots.
      I had LOTR to a high standard, and the studios royally botched one of the greatest movies. I wish a boutique studio would refo these.

  • @imaddictedtostarwars3949
    @imaddictedtostarwars3949 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the cornetto trilogy looks like a dvd on 4k.

  • @craigosterberg5045
    @craigosterberg5045 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the lists.

  • @malcapone57pearson64
    @malcapone57pearson64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree…T2 is the worst ever, and Cameron could care less… to busy with Avatar garbage

  • @jamesgarrison7397
    @jamesgarrison7397 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harry Potter regular 1080p Bluray's black crush was bad too.

  • @theshakter
    @theshakter ปีที่แล้ว

    What would class as top5 4k movies?

    • @therealshanelee
      @therealshanelee  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s a playlist dedicated to them on the channel.

  • @petercolp
    @petercolp ปีที่แล้ว

    4k discs do not all have the same quality as all movies do not. Digital, video, film. Here is the 4k edition. Soon there will be the 4k restored edition. All abut getting us to buy the same movie over and over. I have a Sony 4k upscaler and use the software to lower the black levels to reveal more of the scene and then add resolution. Yes. New Hope looks better than Menace somehow. 🤣

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's a shame about Forrest Gump as well. I hate the DNR s**t

  • @Guitar387
    @Guitar387 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    District 9 is one of my favourite films of all time it is genius. But never watched it on 4k Blu-ray.

  • @orestesdd
    @orestesdd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IMAX sucks on either blu ray or 4k blu ray!!!! It is impossible to display properly IMAX on any TV, which are not meant to display IMAX.

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm really upset about the Lord of The Rings extended cuts. And T2 breaks my heart. Its possibly my favorite movie of all time. I still bought T2 in 4K but I refuse watch to it. I watch my previous Blu-ray cuts.

  • @donjaun540
    @donjaun540 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's more garbage 4k movies and you should have a segment pointing it out. I bet you get a lot of people with there own complaints. I have seen little to no real upgrades in movies. Yet they slap a 4k on the box and a lot extra cost. I can imagine the kaleidoscape is even worse. 😅