What is most surprising is that the "ultimate collectors edition" of the Lord of the Rings & the Hobbit doesn't have the appendices and BTS discs, yet the remastered Blu-ray extended edition set does? It's really bizarre and its clear that it was just a cash grab.
That's the thing that pisses me off the most. Including even the original DVD version of the Appendices in the Collector's Edition should have been required. But, even though the movies were greatly improved by the 4K transfer and HDR, what really NEEDS to have an upscale or remaster done to them is the Appendices. I don't know what digital camera the special features were originally shot on, so maybe getting a higher quality release of the Appendices is impossible. But
I’m STILL salty about that “Ultimate” LOTR box set. I missed out on those nice steelbooks because I held out for this one. At least I still have the awesome Extended Edition Blu-Ray set that has all the bonus features.
The problem with modern films like Inglorious Basterds is that there's nothing to re-scan. Films made pre 2003 have a cut negative, modern films because of digital intermediates break their link back to the original negative once they are scanned. And many of them are scanned at 2k. A restoration would require a complete overhaul, scanning the uncut negative again - they're not going to do that.
Some big studios have scanned their negatives in a higher resolution than 2k but the process to downscale them to 4k costs too much so they just got with the 2k scan on some versions especially doing color correcting is a pain. They were doing color restorations on old films rig when 4k tvs came out and before 4k Blu-ray was a thing. Its very expensive and time consuming
@@domcoke my point is those films are converted to a higher digital resolution thats more like 16k and some movies are not downcoverted due to cost and they used 2k copies to compress Blu-ray. They ended up using the 2k conversion since it was already done and technically better looking over the 1080 Blu-ray version. They don't always need to rerun the negative but the cost to convert the video and time is why they don't. Most of the time anniversary versions have a bigger budget to allow new conversions and treatments.
@@buddychrist I have re-read your reply 3 times. I don't know what you mean by "those films". There are no film negatives that are scanned at 16k. There are *some*, like those that are shot on 65mm that are scanned at 8k. But these are rare. What, exactly, are the cost implications of downgrading something to 2k? [I'm already regretting asking this - cos I'm anticipating word-salad] - Perhaps English not being your first language is getting in the way here. Do you know what a cut negative is? And how this differs from the ENTIRE camera negative having to be scanned in at a higher resolution?
Despite the negative tone, this was an extremely helpful and informative video thank you Jeff! After showcasing the disappointing packaging of The 4K Criterion release of “Citizen Kane” , I think I will now opt for The Studio Canal UK release which seems more user friendly. Happy holidays and a very Happy Christmas to you and your family!
@@richellebrittain2127 I already ordered the Studio Canal version because of how ugly criterion’s packaging was. So as soon as I get my replacement disk I will try to sell it.
@@richellebrittain2127 your right I ordered it from Amazon UK. And I like the Studio Canal version of Mulholland Drive. But I wasn’t gonna double dip on that one too.
Another thing about the Star Trek 4K release. They are currently working on the 4K restoration of the director’s cut of the first one. So while they are doing that, they released this set with only the first 4 which includes the terrible theatrical cut of the first one. Meaning you’ll need to buy the first one again when they finish the restoration. They should have just waited an extra year for all of them to be finished.
Can we just appreciate that we are still able to discuss physical media? With all the streaming focus, we physical media types are going to be our own cult following, lol. Good or bad, thank you for the video!
I agree. There’s something about getting your hands on something physically that makes it feel special. I’ve never been one for streaming, it just seems lazy to me.
@@kaibricturner8836 I also won’t argue that streaming isn’t convenient, because it is, but at a cost. I personally feel that the audio quality greatly suffers (or will vary depening on your connection speed) as well as no special features to watch. Plus, I like the box art. Again, I realize that people like us who collect and prefer pysical media are a dwindling bunch.
@Chenyu Fan I hear you. I just picked up the new release of 007’s No Time To Die on Blu Ray and DVD from Target and it is the Target Edition and it is glorious! 😁😁😁😁
Ive been streaming content for the last 8 or so years, and while streaming is still my primary source for entertainment (just considering the price for how much you get access to with streaming services) This year i finally broke down and upgraded my set up: got a new 4k hdr qled, a new klipsh sound system and a ps5 so i decided to start getting into collecting 4k physical media and yall... im HOOKED lol its so fun building a collection and the audio quality on 4k blu rays is so much better than streaming. So far i have the harry potter collection, detective pikachu, spider man far from home, and crimes of grindlewald (hdr looks SOO good on that disc) and the next discs i want to get are spiderman homecoming, the blade runners, knives out and dune!
This was one thing I disliked about both Blu-ray and 4K. Barely any special features. Now dvds on the other hand, mostly had the best special features.
@@tomwells8093 There's almost always room. But you can also add a separate special features disc. The problem is that the studio's just don't want to spend the money to produce extras anymore. Not to mention, part of the reason DVDs had so many features was because it was a new and novel concept. We never had a way to cram hours upon hours of bonus content onto a disc until DVD.
@@wright96d Very true. Studios get cheaper and cheaper all the time, so they realised not that many people care about the special features. They will do a special collectors edition only if the movie is a big hit. Add in the size of the movie with the high end audio on the disc and it just further made them abandon the extras
@@wright96d I agree my blu-ray of Avengers Endgame and Titanic both had a separate blu-ray disc for bonus features. Since both movies are 3+ hours long.
I'm glad you put that Indiana Jones set on there. In my opinion, there has never been a physical media release of those movies with good artwork and this new one is as bad or worse than the ones in the past. The disks are great but that packaging...
@@CaptainSpalding72 I've got that release and I don't care for it. It's got that cartoon looking picture of him swinging the whip on the cover and the individual cases are more logo than artwork.
Love your channel Jeff,& your input has been very valuable to us. My wife actually watched this episode with me & sure enough she said that Paramount was double dipping on us Trek fans. I'm actually very proud of her for learning how this happens in physical media. Also I still have gripes with Paramount about the Indiana Jones 4K set. Excellent transfers, but one would think that Spielberg & Lucas could've went all out for a the 40TH anniversary of Jones. And yes both sets looked very generic. As for LOTR/Hobbit 4K sets great save. I picked up both used sets for $125. There was no way that I was paying double for a lackluster set. I'm still pissed at Disney for the Star Wars 4K set. Again thank you for your work, & have a Merry Christmas!!!
*honesty is the best policy!* The only way companies address bad releases is when people call them out and shine a light on it! This is a POSITIVE video. 🤙🏼⚡⚡🤙🏼
@@davidthanos both Pacific Rim's AV are top notch but story is meh, Dunkirks overall quality gets my moods going, mad max fury road when I wanna just blow my senses, Lucy looks and sounds fantastic, ready player one amazing, 1917, all the hobbits are amazing on my system, lotr soundtrack phenomenal but video has alot of dnr for me, transformers all look prestine even the first ones, dark knights Imax shots are almost perfect, Daniel Craig James bonds are decent too for being in the digital age and are upcales. Star trek trilogy looks and sounds good, Godzilla's are kinda lame but look and sound great and all the avengers. These are the ones that stand out to me. The rest are just good. I'm sure there are many more. I ordered another 20-30 or so on boxing day lol.
Totally taking The Inglorious Basterds to the grave, it's not that bad. T2 is far more egregious lol. I love these videos. Totally agree with you on the Criterion edition I personally hate the digibook/fold out weird slip things in general. I ended up getting Mulholland Drive and Uncut Gems from them. While not as bad, I still would rather have a standard Criterion case with a nice slipbox similar to the Scream Factory Halloween releases. Totally agree with you on the Indiana Jones set. Total missed opportunity. Universal did the same packaging for BTTF. With BTTF I did like the steelbooks better, but I totally agree with you on hiring a real artist for these really expensive Steelbook sets. They could have commissioned Drew Struzan to do something nice. The only people killing it right now with sweet steelbook packaging from the majors is Lionsgate. AND they come with awesome protective slipcovers, instead of just a standard J-card. As a steelbook fan, and an incredible artwork fan, all the majors are really slacking. All the boutique labels just about are doing it right as far as packaging goes. Arrow, Kino, and Blue Underground are doing an amazing job. Arrow really always has. Really looking forward to Robocop and Werewolf in London especially! Keep up the good work Jeff. Thanks for being our voice in the physical media/collectors game. Much love!
Yeah, don't think Inglorious Bastards is that bad but we were expecting something better as we don't see Tarantinl movies coming out in 4k. Disappointing...
@@adriannn3720 I don't think LOTR is a bad transfer. Some DNR but still a pretty solid 4k with better colour timing (not that uggly yellow that blu rays has)
Inglorious Basterds is a good release. It wasn't a letdown at all to me. The 4K release has much better detail and color grading than the blu-ray. I'm very happy with my 4k copy!!
@@djsoulfilter I didn't bought the old blu ray so 4k is good for me although I see just an average 4k, not great. Still waiting for anything as good as 2001 o Blade Runner 2049, for me the TOP 4k releases I have.
I'm glad you highlighted the Indiana Jones steelbook set, it's so fugly. The regular 4K set has better cover art but the construction of that set is so flimsy. Once I got that set, I pulled out the discs and swapped them into the OG Blu-ray set, which is a WAAYYYY better box set
they’re working on a new Indiana Jones movie in production right now and when that gets released to theaters after that they’re going to release another 4k set
I totally agree on Citizen Kane regarding how annoying the replacement disc process is, but I like the packaging quite a bit (although full disclosure I have the three disc standard blu ray, not the 4K, so I don't have the issue with being unable to remove the disc). The Wong Kar Wai set has folding artwork too, I like them both quite a bit, it creates a ritual as part of the process.
That Indiana Jones set highlights the paradox of popular movies getting physical releases. Because they know it will sell, they can cut corners to increase their profit margins.
I appreciate the effort behind this, especially considering they send you stuff early. Truly appreciated. P.S. I hope the baby is sleeping through the night these days I remember those days, but both my kids were good quick sleepers.
Just discovered your channel and only watched a few of your videos, but I love what you’re doing and I gotta say that it’s a huge disappointment to hear that about the Middle Earth set. At a minimum, they could have at least included the appendices for both trilogies.
Thanks for this. I was considering the Star Trek 4K set, but not anymore. Another reason is that Paramount is going to release a 4K Director's Cut of The Motion Picture, but it is not included in this set.
Paramount will probably release a set with the TMP Director's Cut, Part 5, Part 6, and Generations, but if you want Part 2-4, you will need to buy this current set.
Thanks for this, it's very useful and informative. And wow, Terminator 2: they've been churning out re-releases of that since the DVD format. It's like they just don't care.
Ya that was super disappointing. I’m super happy I bought the regular steelbook version. It looks awesome. Funny I thought maybe I should hold out for this “ultimate collectors edition” they were talking about. Haha nope. It’s just a cash grab to sucker in the LOTR superfans that need to buy everything they put out.
@@chrisd6736 the superfans couldn't even tell the images had dated badly and required an up date. Is it really a cash grab or do you deserve one? They understand the market. Maybe you're out of your depth with this.
I think you're mistaken about the Road Warrior audio issues. As I understand it, the Atmos version contains altered bits, a few removed or replaced sounds that sound wrong to people who know the film by heart. But the real issue is that the audio menu option claims that the original audio is included in the non-atmos versions and it's not. All the versions of the audio contain only the new atmos version. There is nothing wrong with the downsample, though. The problem is that it is altered. Yes, it is a bummer that they didn't include the original audio, as advertised, but the discs are still on my local store shelves and I doubt that most fans will know the difference. This is all old hat to Star Wars fans, except here you can listen to the original audio on the included Blu-Ray.
Agree there is also the generic issue with Atmos that quite often the new mix is compressed and less dynamic than previous mixes in DD or DTS - just another example of general ignorance around these issues by the people employed to remix soundtracks - or auto AI processes which don't even have human ears in the chain.
oh good to know! thank you for the clarification because I was super bummed when he pulled that up because I've been wanting to grab that! I'm going to go ahead and pull the trigger on it.
What are the major differences in the audio compared to the original? Because I have the whole trilogy on blu-ray as separate discs. And that would be horrible if they altered things like Star Wars.
@@DelcoAirsoft I read that some engine noises are altered and a dog yelp was removed. It seems like there would be a video analysis of the differences, if they were significant, but I haven't seen any video comparison yet.
@@kentoad8948 Interesting. Yea hopefully they are not large enough changes that they are overly obvious. But honestly I feel like most people wouldn’t care enough about this movie. Which is a shame.
Inglorious looks and sounds amazing on my set up and the box set is awesome. The Indiana Jones set is absolutely pathetic!! They were selling that set for £45 on black friday! Still didn't pick one up! Indie deserved so much better
I'm a Star Trek fan, so I went ahead and bought the 4 movies. Paramount lost money with Star Trek Next Generation on blu-ray when people were waiting on a complete set instead of the initial individual seasons. Because of that, Paramount nixed DS9 on BD. There might be less chance of that with the movies, but I still wanted to support the physical media to make sure Paramount will continue to work on all the movies (and I'll then buy those movies: looking forward to seeing Motion Picture Director's Cut in 4K).
@@rb6725 Fans have been trying for years. There is a petition for it. The battle is the way the production shot all the footage on panavision camer film then transferred the footage to video to keep VFX time and production time down. Results were very clear in the effects from seasons 4,5,6 and 7 with what they could achieve. However over half the episodes and effects are trapped in a 480i container so would need remaking from scratch effects and unlike TNG all the original live action footage would need to be found from the masters and is a massive effort. Think TNG cost $30m to restore, remix and remaster all 174 episodes and they never saw a return. Ds9 would cost more and the market has shrunk further for physical and TNG was the test ground being the most "financially viable" of that era of star trek. Its sad but... the fans are trying. There's test footage on you tube for DS9 in HD I'm sure. But it's been a while since I checked
@@jefffan171 - I still think that Viacom is now going to use one of the new sophisticated AI computerized upscaling routines (Deep Image, perhaps?) to get both DS9 and Voyager to HD. I think it will happen at some point in 2022 and debut exclusively on Paramount+.
@@lovetheblue6659 Well that should help generate some much needed subs. As I doubt Discovery and Picard can pull the numbers needed alone for them to turn a profit. Don't think we'll see P+ till March 22 anyways??? Oh well
Disagree on Inglorious bastards. The movie had rich colors and Deep blacks, very detailed picture. Might be because I have an OLED, because I have seen numerous reviews dissing this movie. But it's one of the best I've seen.
I am a massive film collector but live in a small apartment, so the first thing I do when I buy a new movie is throw all of the packaging and even most times the disc with the added extras (which I use as coffee coasters) in the trash and all my movies are cataloged and put into one of my Aluminium storages cases.. which live behind my sofa..
Great subject. Overall really love your videos especially the best UHDs. I love that you do it a few times a year coz it keeps me updated. Only negative is, I always have to fast forward 50+ seconds to get to the point
Regarding Star Trek, the fact that only 4 of the films are included, is exactly why I didn’t pick it up. Also I didn’t care for the Indy steelbooks BUT it was better than having to pull the discs out of those cardboard flaps that tend to scratch the discs. BTW very cool and informative video. Merry Christmas and happy new year.
I love Inglorious on 4k and the packaging ain't that bad on Citizen Kane but to each their own I guess. T2 I haven't checked out yet but haven't met one single person who said it was a good transfer so I'll skip that one for sure.
Thankyou for this list - not only warnings aboout the transfers but the packaging as well. And am so relieved that I am not missing out on the LOTR 4K set - which makes me happy I have the Hobbit and LOTR trilogies on the the bare bones 4K releases. Looking forward for your top ten 4K release video👌✔✔
Road Warrior always had terrible audio issues. Especially in the big scene where Papagallo is explaining the breakout plan, his voice drops in and out constantly. Probably just shonky recording on a remote location in 1981.
I’m sick of Paramount Blu-Ray box sets being made of flimsy cardboard rather than a stronger material. Hell even Disney (yes, Disney of all people) use a strong material for their box sets. The only box set where Paramount didn’t go for the flimsy cardboard was for the 4 Star Trek movies.
I watched Inglourious yesterday and it is a very good 4K transfer. This is my viewing experience only and others may have very different results due to different set-up and preference. I watched on a Sony native 4k projector with a 1.5 gain 120inch screen and Panasonic HDR optimizer on with standard setting. The image is noticeably sharper and brighter than the 1080p bluray. However I wouldnt tell another to buy or avoid simply based on my viewing experience unless I know that person has the same preference and set-up as I do.
This guy must of been drunk or high when he watched the Bastards. I thought it was one of the greatest 4k transfer of all time. It smokes the bluray. I'm watching it on Sony A8H and a OPPO 203.
The transfer is great, dude is an idiot. His sale price argument is absurd, too. Tons of 4k titles had huge discounts for the holiday. Nothing weird about that.
The main issue He had with the Film was on account it still used an Old Transfer and had the usual " Half of the Film scenes look better on the 4K and the other Half looked better on the BluRay" stance. But overall it's still a great Transfer but missing a few of the Modern Enhancement offered on New Transfers.
My "worst box set" is the Zack Snyder trilogy. The box itself is clunky. No digital codes for Man of Steel or Batman V Superman, the set is missing the bonus features discs from the first two and buying these 3 separately is significantly cheaper than buying this set
Why? If you put the extras on the 4K disc, that lowers the space available on the disc, which means the actual movie will have a lower bitrate. It may not be a huge hit, and you probably would not notice it, but as purists, I think we all want the highest quality possible. Putting the extras on the Blu-Ray makes sense, as it's going to be inferior to the 4K, anyway, so may as well put SF's there. I like what they did with Braveheart or 2001, where you are getting 3 discs, 1 for the 4K, 1 for the Blu, and an SF Blu.
I hate that argument. If a video game required a special controller to be great, then it’s not a good game. It’s an elitist view to say someone needs the highest end TV to appreciate a release. 99% of consumers won’t have that, so therefore, it’s not good.
It also looks good on my projector screen. I think the point is we shouldn’t tell others to buy or avoid just based our own experience because others may have a very different set up and preference. It’s inappropriate to conclude it is a bad disc just based on your own viewing experience and it is also inappropriate to assume others or most others have the same set-up as you do.
@@JeffRauseo I wouldn't say I'm elitist, I payed for my tv over 2 years because i wanted the best picture, I just think your review is unfair because lot's of people watch your channel Including myself, and inglorious basterds now has a bad reputation. Maybe Stating the Equipment used to review would be more fair.
On the topic of Kane packaging…you would hate how Criterion packaged the Wong Kar Wai set. Fantastic transfers all around but they did something similar with the folded packaging and it’s a nightmare to guide through it.
I’m surprised Kino’s 4K Silence of the Lambs didn’t make it as a worst. Not only was the first 20 minutes of the video screwed up; the audio was incorrect and, in contrast to Criterion and WB, Kino refused to do a replacement program and basically took a “Take it or leave it” stance.
Is it possible you reviewed the BLU-RAY disc of Inglorious Basterds by mistake? Please go back to view it one more time, I believe it's one of the best looking 4K's of the year.
Completely agree on IB. I was excited to get some more Tarantino on 4K, but I ended up just returning it and keeping my blu-ray steelbook. I fear it'll end up like T2 and Goodfellas where we won't ever get a good transfer at this rate.
I did get that ultimate collectors edition from lotr and the hobbit. €229. I do wished more special features were on it, but tbh for me it doesn't really matter as much. I never watch those things. I rather watch lotr and the hobbit a 2th time in 4K. And i love it. I like the box also, if for me there could have been 1 thing better, it would have been metal cases. I like the design, but metal would have nailed it. It stands next to my normal dvd's, extended dvd's, normal blu-ray, 3D Blu-ray (only hobbit trilogy), extended blu-ray box sets and fits the collection well. 4K looks stunning on these. I can't agree with your decision because of it, sure it might not be enough for you, but the 4k movies are amazing, the sound is amazing. You should have put this in the worst package instead of worst overall... Because it isn't the worst in everything.
That packaging for Citizen Kane was truly awful. I transferred my discs to a black, four-disc plastic replacement case and have used (for now) some cover art from a Blu-ray edition from the U.K. 🙂
The packaging reminds me of the Guillermo del Toro Spanish trilogy blu-ray box set. I'm honestly not sure why they packaged it like that again, it doesn't seem like that edition sold very well.
@@JakeKaufmanFilms seriously? That doesn't make any sense, it was just a re-release of existing films on the collection, and I'm pretty sure it retailed for than the price for each individual film separately.
Thanks for saving us a few bucks on garbage discs! To be honest I am still pretty happy with Mad Max on Blu ray. Garbage packaging on Citizen Kane! I absolutely fully endorse your Middle Earth pick! I was so disappointed in this, it is hard to even express it well. My favorite movie series ever. And this is supposed to be an ultimate collector’s set without all the extra content? Give me a break! I have all the previous DVD and Blu Ray sets. So this would do I suppose. But I am not gonna buy it, the half assed way they released it!
If you're in the guilds then it's standard contract language that the companies are required to solicit approval from the director and/or DP on a new physical media release. I strongly suspect IB was approved by Robert Richardson.
Honestly, I'd just recommend buying the German Blu-ray instead so you get the German cut of the film. And yes, there's a English and German hybrid audio option that adds in the German audio with English subtitles for scenes that have no English audio. Highly recommend honestly.
I found the two sets of LOTR and The Hobbit on Mercari for $40. I saw them on there the day after the “collector’s edition” was announced and couldn’t believe my luck. Only two more days until my annual rewatch of LOTR!
First off, I always enjoy your opinions and insights. I kind of wish you would have had two separate videos, one video for worst 4k UHDs audio & video, and one for worst packaging. I watched this video thinking "Ok he's going to go over the worst transfers of the year". Nope. Spent half the video talking about bad packaging on some of these releases. I personally don't care how the packaging is on the movies as long as the disc is secure and undamaged upon arrival. I know, probably minority here, but that's just me. I've never seen the Indian Jones movies, so when they announced it was coming to 4k, I was excited. I didn't care what the packaging looked like. I was thrilled to hear I could view this in the best way possible, on 4k. I was hoping to hear more about bad audio and video releases to avoid. Anyway, just an opinion comment from me. Always looking forward to the next video.
I used to collect dvd’s and Blu-ray’s. Gave up on it just as 4K Blu-ray started. Done buying the same movies over and over just for better picture and sound quality.
I appreciate your takes on all these & I'm new to the 4K game. I just ordered about $300 in 4K movies & wish I would've discovered your content sooner, ie T2. However, I stay away from the steel books due to wanting to pack as many classics as possible in my DVD hutch. And that's why I didn't go for the Indy steel book collection. Keep up the good reviews please!
Completely disagree on Inglorious Basterds. I don’t know what you’re seeing, have the Steelbook and it looks great on my set up. The rest of your choices I agree on or understand.
I agree with you. This guy must of been on LSD, when he watched the Basterds. I think it's one of the greatest 4k transfers of all time. I watched it on a Sony A8H and OPPO 203. This guy loses all credibility with me. Maybe somebody paid him to trash the disc? Who knows. This disc was perfection. It smokes the bluray.
I personally find the critique on the Inglorious Basterds 4K absurd. It looks absolute fine to me, no issues and like I remembered it from the cinema (just better, obviously). I don't see it as tempered with but instead as the original digital intermediate with added HDR. I guess the Blu Ray image was tempered with much more. Mad Max II & III audio was also fine. Maybe not the original but you'd have to be a super fan to notice. Also everybody interested in physical media releases of Star Trek should buy the new set or who knows if there is going to be another one in the future. It is again fine for what it is.
Whilst I haven't seen the 4k Terminator 2, I would think nothing could be worse than Gremlins 4k which I bought last week. Some parts of it is on a par with VHS quality. These companies should be ashamed of themselves.
The problem with 4K is always, you need to check all the Information about the Disc before you buy. Back in the day where only 1080p Blu-rays existed, you could just Go and buy. No Research needed.
I felt dumb when I went and bought the Lord Of the Rings and The Hobbit trilogies in 4K, because I found out literally only a few days later that they were gonna do a compilation release later on, and felt I should have just held out and got that instead. Seems I made the right call after all with the individual trilogy releases. Thank you.
They're not the same thing. You need to get real. If It's different its different. A 1st edition is unique. They go to all the trouble to stamp these things as 1st edition and 2nd edition and 3rd edition etc.. They're not the same thing.
I totally agree with the Indiana Jones Steel Book set, I pre-ordered it from Best Buy and was very disappointed with the art work and packaging when I got it!!! Love this idea for 10 worst categories! Great Channel!!!!
This was the most positive, negative video I've seen. It's fascinating to hear all the mistakes that unfortunately keep getting made in this format. But it's constructive to lay it all out and maybe call more attention to it. Video and sound are usually the first thing to get called out, but there's not enough attention given to things like packaging and design. Something like an awesome cover art can be the deciding factor for whether I upgrade a disc or not.
Inglorious I think looks good but it's not a huge jump. I'm definitely not going to say it's bad, it's just not a big jump from the Blu-ray. I do still think it's an upgrade though. How much of an upgrade is up to you and what you feel is worth the price. While I'd like to be blown away with each upgrade, some of these just aren't going to benefit a whole lot when the Blu-ray is already good. It's the older films or movies that get new scans are the ones I get excited for.
I hear again about Terminator 2 and for me it's magnificent 4k blu ray. No noise and a lot of details ! I realy don't understand why people still like to see noise in movies. For me it ruins a movie
Once I slid the discs out of the CITIZEN KANE box, I put the discs in slimline jewel cases. I do that with any disc, whether bluray, 4K or CD that comes in a cardboard sleeve.
If paramount are going down the first four route, they should have just settled on the original trilogy of 2,3 and 4. Missed out motion picture all together.
Prediction at 1:37, his pick for worst overall is Inglorious Basterds. Edit: Damn, I don’t know how I completely forgot about the Middle Earth set. That one seriously might out-turkey Inglorious Basterds. It might even beat Terminator 2. That set did bring nice Atmos audio and a few good special features to the mix, but that’s certainly not worth the extreme price.
@@nasirsaleem4016 i love film grain when it's executed well and fairly consistently. The issue is that any given film is often shot on a variety of different film stocks in a variety of lighting conditions, so the quality and texture of the grain can change from shot to shot depending on how good the cinematographer was at wrangling it all. And 4k is so high res that it amplifies the apparentness of these scene-to-scene differences. The original Blade Runner is all over the place with its grain, whereas a film like Doubt (albeit not in 4K yet) has a really nice and consistent filmic grain throughout.
I had the older Citizen Kane boxed set that had slots for three discs. I took out the 4K and the bonus discs out of the Criterion case and put these three in the old boxed set!
What is most surprising is that the "ultimate collectors edition" of the Lord of the Rings & the Hobbit doesn't have the appendices and BTS discs, yet the remastered Blu-ray extended edition set does? It's really bizarre and its clear that it was just a cash grab.
That's the thing that pisses me off the most. Including even the original DVD version of the Appendices in the Collector's Edition should have been required. But, even though the movies were greatly improved by the 4K transfer and HDR, what really NEEDS to have an upscale or remaster done to them is the Appendices. I don't know what digital camera the special features were originally shot on, so maybe getting a higher quality release of the Appendices is impossible. But
@AlasdairGR Also they were shot in 2K with 4K scan. So it really worth upgrading to 4K here?
I’m STILL salty about that “Ultimate” LOTR box set. I missed out on those nice steelbooks because I held out for this one. At least I still have the awesome Extended Edition Blu-Ray set that has all the bonus features.
Yea the steelbooks were way better
I think the LotR release in general is terrible. The DVD is better.
Zavvi (uk) have stock on the steelbook box sets :)
Best Buy still had some last I saw.
@@adriannn3720 I thought the 4k was great. I'd heard many good stuff. I feel _fooled_
The problem with modern films like Inglorious Basterds is that there's nothing to re-scan. Films made pre 2003 have a cut negative, modern films because of digital intermediates break their link back to the original negative once they are scanned. And many of them are scanned at 2k. A restoration would require a complete overhaul, scanning the uncut negative again - they're not going to do that.
Some big studios have scanned their negatives in a higher resolution than 2k but the process to downscale them to 4k costs too much so they just got with the 2k scan on some versions especially doing color correcting is a pain. They were doing color restorations on old films rig when 4k tvs came out and before 4k Blu-ray was a thing. Its very expensive and time consuming
@@buddychrist I don't understand your point
@@domcoke my point is those films are converted to a higher digital resolution thats more like 16k and some movies are not downcoverted due to cost and they used 2k copies to compress Blu-ray. They ended up using the 2k conversion since it was already done and technically better looking over the 1080 Blu-ray version.
They don't always need to rerun the negative but the cost to convert the video and time is why they don't. Most of the time anniversary versions have a bigger budget to allow new conversions and treatments.
@@buddychrist I have re-read your reply 3 times. I don't know what you mean by "those films". There are no film negatives that are scanned at 16k. There are *some*, like those that are shot on 65mm that are scanned at 8k. But these are rare. What, exactly, are the cost implications of downgrading something to 2k? [I'm already regretting asking this - cos I'm anticipating word-salad] - Perhaps English not being your first language is getting in the way here. Do you know what a cut negative is? And how this differs from the ENTIRE camera negative having to be scanned in at a higher resolution?
No, the negative for that film definitely still exists.
Despite the negative tone, this was an extremely helpful and informative video thank you Jeff! After showcasing the disappointing packaging of The 4K Criterion release of “Citizen Kane” , I think I will now opt for The Studio Canal UK release which seems more user friendly. Happy holidays and a very Happy Christmas to you and your family!
Kane is coming from WB in the UK. WB has had the U.S. rights to the RKO library for years & expanded that to worldwide rights in 2016.
@@richellebrittain2127 I already ordered the Studio Canal version because of how ugly criterion’s packaging was. So as soon as I get my replacement disk I will try to sell it.
@@jcraider6621 My point was for Kane it's WB in the UK. Mulholland Drive is StudioCanal.
@@richellebrittain2127 your right I ordered it from Amazon UK. And I like the Studio Canal version of Mulholland Drive. But I wasn’t gonna double dip on that one too.
Yes but did you realize this movie has a curse on it.
Another thing about the Star Trek 4K release. They are currently working on the 4K restoration of the director’s cut of the first one. So while they are doing that, they released this set with only the first 4 which includes the terrible theatrical cut of the first one. Meaning you’ll need to buy the first one again when they finish the restoration. They should have just waited an extra year for all of them to be finished.
He’s right about Indy. Indiana Jones is dirt, mud, vines, jungle, sweat. It’s filthy. Sterilised white is really odd as a choice.
Exactly my thoughts! You put it better than I did
Great video as always 👍🏼 just watching that citizen Kane removal of discs was painful to watch lol
Can we just appreciate that we are still able to discuss physical media? With all the streaming focus, we physical media types are going to be our own cult following, lol.
Good or bad, thank you for the video!
I agree. There’s something about getting your hands on something physically that makes it feel special. I’ve never been one for streaming, it just seems lazy to me.
@@kaibricturner8836 I also won’t argue that streaming isn’t convenient, because it is, but at a cost. I personally feel that the audio quality greatly suffers (or will vary depening on your connection speed) as well as no special features to watch. Plus, I like the box art. Again, I realize that people like us who collect and prefer pysical media are a dwindling bunch.
@Chenyu Fan I hear you. I just picked up the new release of 007’s No Time To Die on Blu Ray and DVD from Target and it is the Target Edition and it is glorious! 😁😁😁😁
Good point. I love discs.
Ive been streaming content for the last 8 or so years, and while streaming is still my primary source for entertainment (just considering the price for how much you get access to with streaming services)
This year i finally broke down and upgraded my set up: got a new 4k hdr qled, a new klipsh sound system and a ps5 so i decided to start getting into collecting 4k physical media and yall... im HOOKED lol its so fun building a collection and the audio quality on 4k blu rays is so much better than streaming.
So far i have the harry potter collection, detective pikachu, spider man far from home, and crimes of grindlewald (hdr looks SOO good on that disc) and the next discs i want to get are spiderman homecoming, the blade runners, knives out and dune!
The hobbit in 4K is jaw dropping, like no other movies comes close to that level of beauty
This was one thing I disliked about both Blu-ray and 4K. Barely any special features. Now dvds on the other hand, mostly had the best special features.
I think it has a lot to do with the discs themselves. Because of the size of the movie there isn't a lot of space left for lots of special features.
@@tomwells8093 There's almost always room. But you can also add a separate special features disc. The problem is that the studio's just don't want to spend the money to produce extras anymore. Not to mention, part of the reason DVDs had so many features was because it was a new and novel concept. We never had a way to cram hours upon hours of bonus content onto a disc until DVD.
@@wright96d Very true. Studios get cheaper and cheaper all the time, so they realised not that many people care about the special features. They will do a special collectors edition only if the movie is a big hit. Add in the size of the movie with the high end audio on the disc and it just further made them abandon the extras
@@wright96d I agree my blu-ray of Avengers Endgame and Titanic both had a separate blu-ray disc for bonus features. Since both movies are 3+ hours long.
I'm glad you put that Indiana Jones set on there. In my opinion, there has never been a physical media release of those movies with good artwork and this new one is as bad or worse than the ones in the past. The disks are great but that packaging...
For the blu ray steels artwork they used the original poster art, unless that was just here in the UK?
@@lockey88 Raiders had a decent poster but the others were so-so. IMO
Their first release to DVD back in 2004 had excellent artwork
@@CaptainSpalding72 I've got that release and I don't care for it. It's got that cartoon looking picture of him swinging the whip on the cover and the individual cases are more logo than artwork.
Big sleeve edition in the UK is the best release yet for this franchise
Love your channel Jeff,& your input has been very valuable to us. My wife actually watched this episode with me & sure enough she said that Paramount was double dipping on us Trek fans. I'm actually very proud of her for learning how this happens in physical media. Also I still have gripes with Paramount about the Indiana Jones 4K set. Excellent transfers, but one would think that Spielberg & Lucas could've went all out for a the 40TH anniversary of Jones. And yes both sets looked very generic. As for LOTR/Hobbit 4K sets great save. I picked up both used sets for $125. There was no way that I was paying double for a lackluster set. I'm still pissed at Disney for the Star Wars 4K set. Again thank you for your work, & have a Merry Christmas!!!
*honesty is the best policy!* The only way companies address bad releases is when people call them out and shine a light on it! This is a POSITIVE video.
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Just watched the matrix trilogy and my god that movie was ahead of it's time. It still holds up.
Yeah man I agree. I have over 150 4k discs now and it's still my favourite.
@@mr.yaakov4879 damn 150. That's a lot. The last one I got was that and the fast and furious set, only because it was on sale.
@@mr.yaakov4879 what are your other 4k favorites
@@davidthanos both Pacific Rim's AV are top notch but story is meh, Dunkirks overall quality gets my moods going, mad max fury road when I wanna just blow my senses, Lucy looks and sounds fantastic, ready player one amazing, 1917, all the hobbits are amazing on my system, lotr soundtrack phenomenal but video has alot of dnr for me, transformers all look prestine even the first ones, dark knights Imax shots are almost perfect, Daniel Craig James bonds are decent too for being in the digital age and are upcales. Star trek trilogy looks and sounds good, Godzilla's are kinda lame but look and sound great and all the avengers. These are the ones that stand out to me. The rest are just good. I'm sure there are many more. I ordered another 20-30 or so on boxing day lol.
@@mr.yaakov4879 I have 1917. I've been dying to see it. Just don't have time.
Great stuff Jeff. As collectors we deserved much better Indians Jones and from Star Trek and Inglourious Basterds to name a few.
Totally taking The Inglorious Basterds to the grave, it's not that bad. T2 is far more egregious lol. I love these videos.
Totally agree with you on the Criterion edition I personally hate the digibook/fold out weird slip things in general. I ended up getting Mulholland Drive and Uncut Gems from them. While not as bad, I still would rather have a standard Criterion case with a nice slipbox similar to the Scream Factory Halloween releases.
Totally agree with you on the Indiana Jones set. Total missed opportunity. Universal did the same packaging for BTTF. With BTTF I did like the steelbooks better, but I totally agree with you on hiring a real artist for these really expensive Steelbook sets. They could have commissioned Drew Struzan to do something nice.
The only people killing it right now with sweet steelbook packaging from the majors is Lionsgate. AND they come with awesome protective slipcovers, instead of just a standard J-card.
As a steelbook fan, and an incredible artwork fan, all the majors are really slacking. All the boutique labels just about are doing it right as far as packaging goes. Arrow, Kino, and Blue Underground are doing an amazing job. Arrow really always has. Really looking forward to Robocop and Werewolf in London especially!
Keep up the good work Jeff. Thanks for being our voice in the physical media/collectors game. Much love!
Yeah, don't think Inglorious Bastards is that bad but we were expecting something better as we don't see Tarantinl movies coming out in 4k. Disappointing...
LotR is worse than Inglorious, but Jeff liked it for some reason.
@@adriannn3720 I don't think LOTR is a bad transfer. Some DNR but still a pretty solid 4k with better colour timing (not that uggly yellow that blu rays has)
Inglorious Basterds is a good release. It wasn't a letdown at all to me. The 4K release has much better detail and color grading than the blu-ray. I'm very happy with my 4k copy!!
@@djsoulfilter I didn't bought the old blu ray so 4k is good for me although I see just an average 4k, not great.
Still waiting for anything as good as 2001 o Blade Runner 2049, for me the TOP 4k releases I have.
That random shade on Adam Sandler! Haha love your stuff Jeff.
Great video!!!😃😃😃 Hope next year will be better year for media.
"Unfortunately"... this is more important than the "Best of... ".
Thanks for keeping quality ahead of quantity.
Happy New Year!
I'm glad you highlighted the Indiana Jones steelbook set, it's so fugly. The regular 4K set has better cover art but the construction of that set is so flimsy. Once I got that set, I pulled out the discs and swapped them into the OG Blu-ray set, which is a WAAYYYY better box set
they’re working on a new Indiana Jones movie in production right now and when that gets released to theaters after that they’re going to release another 4k set
I totally agree on Citizen Kane regarding how annoying the replacement disc process is, but I like the packaging quite a bit (although full disclosure I have the three disc standard blu ray, not the 4K, so I don't have the issue with being unable to remove the disc). The Wong Kar Wai set has folding artwork too, I like them both quite a bit, it creates a ritual as part of the process.
Great comment. Ritual is a big part of the fun of being a collector!
That Indiana Jones set highlights the paradox of popular movies getting physical releases. Because they know it will sell, they can cut corners to increase their profit margins.
I appreciate the effort behind this, especially considering they send you stuff early. Truly appreciated. P.S. I hope the baby is sleeping through the night these days I remember those days, but both my kids were good quick sleepers.
Just discovered your channel and only watched a few of your videos, but I love what you’re doing and I gotta say that it’s a huge disappointment to hear that about the Middle Earth set. At a minimum, they could have at least included the appendices for both trilogies.
Before even watching the video, props on the Jean Ralphio thumbnail lol
Thanks for this. I was considering the Star Trek 4K set, but not anymore. Another reason is that Paramount is going to release a 4K Director's Cut of The Motion Picture, but it is not included in this set.
Good point!
Have not gotten my hands on the discs themselves so have no opinion, but I remember his original review of that box set as being much more positive.
Paramount will probably release a set with the TMP Director's Cut, Part 5, Part 6, and Generations, but if you want Part 2-4, you will need to buy this current set.
Practically every single one of these things I've considered but you've pointed me in the right direction not to go through with any of them👌👌
Inglorious bastards looks rly good imo, I’d say it’s worth the $10
Thanks for this, it's very useful and informative. And wow, Terminator 2: they've been churning out re-releases of that since the DVD format. It's like they just don't care.
Couldn’t agree more with your pick for the worst overall!! Warner Bros is not seeing heaven for this treachery
Ya that was super disappointing. I’m super happy I bought the regular steelbook version. It looks awesome. Funny I thought maybe I should hold out for this “ultimate collectors edition” they were talking about. Haha nope. It’s just a cash grab to sucker in the LOTR superfans that need to buy everything they put out.
@@chrisd6736 the superfans couldn't even tell the images had dated badly and required an up date.
Is it really a cash grab or do you deserve one?
They understand the market.
Maybe you're out of your depth with this.
@@dreyn7780- are you seriously defending this set? Why?
I think you're mistaken about the Road Warrior audio issues. As I understand it, the Atmos version contains altered bits, a few removed or replaced sounds that sound wrong to people who know the film by heart. But the real issue is that the audio menu option claims that the original audio is included in the non-atmos versions and it's not. All the versions of the audio contain only the new atmos version. There is nothing wrong with the downsample, though. The problem is that it is altered. Yes, it is a bummer that they didn't include the original audio, as advertised, but the discs are still on my local store shelves and I doubt that most fans will know the difference. This is all old hat to Star Wars fans, except here you can listen to the original audio on the included Blu-Ray.
Agree there is also the generic issue with Atmos that quite often the new mix is compressed and less dynamic than previous mixes in DD or DTS - just another example of general ignorance around these issues by the people employed to remix soundtracks - or auto AI processes which don't even have human ears in the chain.
oh good to know! thank you for the clarification because I was super bummed when he pulled that up because I've been wanting to grab that! I'm going to go ahead and pull the trigger on it.
What are the major differences in the audio compared to the original? Because I have the whole trilogy on blu-ray as separate discs. And that would be horrible if they altered things like Star Wars.
@@DelcoAirsoft I read that some engine noises are altered and a dog yelp was removed. It seems like there would be a video analysis of the differences, if they were significant, but I haven't seen any video comparison yet.
@@kentoad8948 Interesting. Yea hopefully they are not large enough changes that they are overly obvious. But honestly I feel like most people wouldn’t care enough about this movie. Which is a shame.
Inglorious looks and sounds amazing on my set up and the box set is awesome. The Indiana Jones set is absolutely pathetic!! They were selling that set for £45 on black friday! Still didn't pick one up! Indie deserved so much better
I'm a Star Trek fan, so I went ahead and bought the 4 movies. Paramount lost money with Star Trek Next Generation on blu-ray when people were waiting on a complete set instead of the initial individual seasons. Because of that, Paramount nixed DS9 on BD. There might be less chance of that with the movies, but I still wanted to support the physical media to make sure Paramount will continue to work on all the movies (and I'll then buy those movies: looking forward to seeing Motion Picture Director's Cut in 4K).
100% this.
A remastered DS9 would be fantastic. Its much darker visually compared to TNG and a remaster would really look great.
@@rb6725 Fans have been trying for years. There is a petition for it. The battle is the way the production shot all the footage on panavision camer film then transferred the footage to video to keep VFX time and production time down. Results were very clear in the effects from seasons 4,5,6 and 7 with what they could achieve. However over half the episodes and effects are trapped in a 480i container so would need remaking from scratch effects and unlike TNG all the original live action footage would need to be found from the masters and is a massive effort. Think TNG cost $30m to restore, remix and remaster all 174 episodes and they never saw a return. Ds9 would cost more and the market has shrunk further for physical and TNG was the test ground being the most "financially viable" of that era of star trek. Its sad but... the fans are trying. There's test footage on you tube for DS9 in HD I'm sure. But it's been a while since I checked
@@jefffan171 - I still think that Viacom is now going to use one of the new sophisticated AI computerized upscaling routines (Deep Image, perhaps?) to get both DS9 and Voyager to HD. I think it will happen at some point in 2022 and debut exclusively on Paramount+.
@@lovetheblue6659 Well that should help generate some much needed subs. As I doubt Discovery and Picard can pull the numbers needed alone for them to turn a profit. Don't think we'll see P+ till March 22 anyways??? Oh well
I have to admit that I love that packaging for Citizen Kane. I absolutely need it!!! 😍😍
Considering the lord of the rings came with two statues to hold your books, I can understand the frustration
Still disagree with Inglorious Basterds. Really not that bad at all. Let down, sure, but doesn't belong in the same conversation as T2 on 4K.
Disagree on Inglorious bastards. The movie had rich colors and Deep blacks, very detailed picture. Might be because I have an OLED, because I have seen numerous reviews dissing this movie. But it's one of the best I've seen.
I am a massive film collector but live in a small apartment, so the first thing I do when I buy a new movie is throw all of the packaging and even most times the disc with the added extras (which I use as coffee coasters) in the trash and all my movies are cataloged and put into one of my Aluminium storages cases.. which live behind my sofa..
Great subject. Overall really love your videos especially the best UHDs. I love that you do it a few times a year coz it keeps me updated.
Only negative is, I always have to fast forward 50+ seconds to get to the point
Regarding Star Trek, the fact that only 4 of the films are included, is exactly why I didn’t pick it up. Also I didn’t care for the Indy steelbooks BUT it was better than having to pull the discs out of those cardboard flaps that tend to scratch the discs. BTW very cool and informative video. Merry Christmas and happy new year.
To be fair, doing a 4k scan of Star Trek V violates the Geneva Convention, so it kind of makes sense.
@@EpicGamerWinXD69 begs the question, why does God need a 4K transfer of Star Trek V?
Their misstep with Middleearth box set was using that word Ultimate
I love Inglorious on 4k and the packaging ain't that bad on Citizen Kane but to each their own I guess. T2 I haven't checked out yet but haven't met one single person who said it was a good transfer so I'll skip that one for sure.
Thankyou for this list - not only warnings aboout the transfers but the packaging as well. And am so relieved that I am not missing out on the LOTR 4K set - which makes me happy I have the Hobbit and LOTR trilogies on the the bare bones 4K releases. Looking forward for your top ten 4K release video👌✔✔
Road Warrior always had terrible audio issues. Especially in the big scene where Papagallo is explaining the breakout plan, his voice drops in and out constantly. Probably just shonky recording on a remote location in 1981.
I’m sick of Paramount Blu-Ray box sets being made of flimsy cardboard rather than a stronger material. Hell even Disney (yes, Disney of all people) use a strong material for their box sets. The only box set where Paramount didn’t go for the flimsy cardboard was for the 4 Star Trek movies.
Have been waiting for this! Got the notification 2hrs ago. Finished a 10hr shift. Home now, with my lunch and my laptop.
I watched Inglourious yesterday and it is a very good 4K transfer. This is my viewing experience only and others may have very different results due to different set-up and preference. I watched on a Sony native 4k projector with a 1.5 gain 120inch screen and Panasonic HDR optimizer on with standard setting. The image is noticeably sharper and brighter than the 1080p bluray. However I wouldnt tell another to buy or avoid simply based on my viewing experience unless I know that person has the same preference and set-up as I do.
personally I wasn't a big fan of my 4k blu ray of inglorious Bastards. I felt super off
This guy must of been drunk or high when he watched the Bastards. I thought it was one of the greatest 4k transfer of all time. It smokes the bluray. I'm watching it on Sony A8H and a OPPO 203.
The transfer is great, dude is an idiot. His sale price argument is absurd, too. Tons of 4k titles had huge discounts for the holiday. Nothing weird about that.
dont assume my preferences bro this is current year
The main issue He had with the Film was on account it still used an Old Transfer and had the usual " Half of the Film scenes look better on the 4K and the other Half looked better on the BluRay" stance.
But overall it's still a great Transfer but missing a few of the Modern Enhancement offered on New Transfers.
My "worst box set" is the Zack Snyder trilogy. The box itself is clunky. No digital codes for Man of Steel or Batman V Superman, the set is missing the bonus features discs from the first two and buying these 3 separately is significantly cheaper than buying this set
I also heard that the Batman v Superman 4K disc is the old one with the messed up HDR, not the new Remastered disc.
The movies themselves don't help
you keep saying cash grab. that's the point of all releases.
Great Video. Thanks for putting this out, very helpful and informative. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I really would like to start seeing all Extras on the 4k disc and the removal of the blu-rays entirely from 4k releases.
Why? If you put the extras on the 4K disc, that lowers the space available on the disc, which means the actual movie will have a lower bitrate. It may not be a huge hit, and you probably would not notice it, but as purists, I think we all want the highest quality possible.
Putting the extras on the Blu-Ray makes sense, as it's going to be inferior to the 4K, anyway, so may as well put SF's there.
I like what they did with Braveheart or 2001, where you are getting 3 discs, 1 for the 4K, 1 for the Blu, and an SF Blu.
I agree they should remove the blu-ray copy of the movie. Im never going to watch it.
@@adriannn3720 i agree, sort of, in principle, but Arrow put the extras on the 4k discs and i have absolutely no complaints about PQ on those films
Digi paks need to be banned. What a terrible way to store a disc and booklet. I hate them so much.
Clear and simple input about the worst, your are the best, amigo!!! 🇨🇱
I agree on the Indy set, the art is boring. A box set with printed copies of maps and mini props would have been awesome.
Nice video as always. I like the background and the lighting as well, good job!
I think if you upgraded your hardware You would see that inglorious basterds was a really nice tranfer, the HDR was beautiful on a panasonic OLED TV.
I hate that argument. If a video game required a special controller to be great, then it’s not a good game.
It’s an elitist view to say someone needs the highest end TV to appreciate a release. 99% of consumers won’t have that, so therefore, it’s not good.
It also looks good on my projector screen. I think the point is we shouldn’t tell others to buy or avoid just based our own experience because others may have a very different set up and preference. It’s inappropriate to conclude it is a bad disc just based on your own viewing experience and it is also inappropriate to assume others or most others have the same set-up as you do.
@@jin5667 got it. So I’ll just stop reviewing discs then. Thank you for the information.
@@JeffRauseo I wouldn't say I'm elitist, I payed for my tv over 2 years because i wanted the best picture, I just think your review is unfair because lot's of people watch your channel Including myself, and inglorious basterds now has a bad reputation. Maybe Stating the Equipment used to review would be more fair.
@@nick-fi2ve equipment is in my description of every video.
On the topic of Kane packaging…you would hate how Criterion packaged the Wong Kar Wai set. Fantastic transfers all around but they did something similar with the folded packaging and it’s a nightmare to guide through it.
Great video. I agree with everything.
I’m surprised Kino’s 4K Silence of the Lambs didn’t make it as a worst. Not only was the first 20 minutes of the video screwed up; the audio was incorrect and, in contrast to Criterion and WB, Kino refused to do a replacement program and basically took a “Take it or leave it” stance.
Is it possible you reviewed the BLU-RAY disc of Inglorious Basterds by mistake? Please go back to view it one more time, I believe it's one of the best looking 4K's of the year.
WB never replaced Thunderdome. Road warrior replacement received may 2022
Completely agree on IB. I was excited to get some more Tarantino on 4K, but I ended up just returning it and keeping my blu-ray steelbook. I fear it'll end up like T2 and Goodfellas where we won't ever get a good transfer at this rate.
Thank you for bringing up GOODFELLAS 4k!
I did get that ultimate collectors edition from lotr and the hobbit. €229. I do wished more special features were on it, but tbh for me it doesn't really matter as much. I never watch those things. I rather watch lotr and the hobbit a 2th time in 4K. And i love it. I like the box also, if for me there could have been 1 thing better, it would have been metal cases. I like the design, but metal would have nailed it. It stands next to my normal dvd's, extended dvd's, normal blu-ray, 3D Blu-ray (only hobbit trilogy), extended blu-ray box sets and fits the collection well. 4K looks stunning on these. I can't agree with your decision because of it, sure it might not be enough for you, but the 4k movies are amazing, the sound is amazing. You should have put this in the worst package instead of worst overall... Because it isn't the worst in everything.
I love Lord of the Rings but that box set is too expensive for what it comes with. It's much cheaper to just get the trilogies separately.
Just a note that I’m new to the channel and really enjoying your videos - both the content and your approach. Thank you!
That packaging for Citizen Kane was truly awful.
I transferred my discs to a black, four-disc plastic replacement case and have used (for now) some cover art from a Blu-ray edition from the U.K. 🙂
The packaging reminds me of the Guillermo del Toro Spanish trilogy blu-ray box set. I'm honestly not sure why they packaged it like that again, it doesn't seem like that edition sold very well.
@@EpicGamerWinXD69 - The Del Toro set sold out and went OOP. It sold very well.
@@JakeKaufmanFilms seriously? That doesn't make any sense, it was just a re-release of existing films on the collection, and I'm pretty sure it retailed for than the price for each individual film separately.
Thanks for saving us a few bucks on garbage discs! To be honest I am still pretty happy with Mad Max on Blu ray. Garbage packaging on Citizen Kane! I absolutely fully endorse your Middle Earth pick! I was so disappointed in this, it is hard to even express it well. My favorite movie series ever. And this is supposed to be an ultimate collector’s set without all the extra content? Give me a break! I have all the previous DVD and Blu Ray sets. So this would do I suppose. But I am not gonna buy it, the half assed way they released it!
I held out for the "ultimate" hobbit collection. Once I realized how lame it was, I bought the two 4K box sets on sale instead.
@@veronicareitherreese6671 that is what I am going for also.
@@DangerousDevilOfficial don't. The transfer is terrible.
@@adriannn3720 is it really? Dang it! How am I supposed to get a proper 4K of these films?
I agree with you on the middle earth collection. I have both the 4k and blu ray sets just for the special features.
If you're in the guilds then it's standard contract language that the companies are required to solicit approval from the director and/or DP on a new physical media release. I strongly suspect IB was approved by Robert Richardson.
Good morning,Just hope Saturday Night Fever can be in 4K.
Love your honesty and great review’s,
another great video. Happy Holidays to you and yours.
Thanks man!!! Always looking forward to new content!!!
God damn I love your reviews bro!
And I see you got
ARIZONA
On the back! I love that movie haha
Kinda new to 4k. Just started building my collection. You're channel is really helpful. Avoiding Terminator 2 like the plague 👍
I wasn’t going to get inglorious basterds after the review you gave, but at $10 they got me.
It looks very good imo, honestly one of the best upscale I’ve seen.
Honestly, I'd just recommend buying the German Blu-ray instead so you get the German cut of the film. And yes, there's a English and German hybrid audio option that adds in the German audio with English subtitles for scenes that have no English audio. Highly recommend honestly.
Loved your descriptions and mini reviews. Earned a subscriber!
I found the two sets of LOTR and The Hobbit on Mercari for $40. I saw them on there the day after the “collector’s edition” was announced and couldn’t believe my luck. Only two more days until my annual rewatch of LOTR!
All 4k releases should toss the blurays. I never got a vhs with every dvd release. £25 for each fil is robbery
I thought this was a list for the worst 4k discs of the year, not the worst packaged lol
That Middle Earth collection is shameful!
First off, I always enjoy your opinions and insights. I kind of wish you would have had two separate videos, one video for worst 4k UHDs audio & video, and one for worst packaging. I watched this video thinking "Ok he's going to go over the worst transfers of the year". Nope. Spent half the video talking about bad packaging on some of these releases. I personally don't care how the packaging is on the movies as long as the disc is secure and undamaged upon arrival. I know, probably minority here, but that's just me. I've never seen the Indian Jones movies, so when they announced it was coming to 4k, I was excited. I didn't care what the packaging looked like. I was thrilled to hear I could view this in the best way possible, on 4k. I was hoping to hear more about bad audio and video releases to avoid. Anyway, just an opinion comment from me. Always looking forward to the next video.
omfg that citizen Kane packaging is HORRENDOUS
I used to collect dvd’s and Blu-ray’s. Gave up on it just as 4K Blu-ray started. Done buying the same movies over and over just for better picture and sound quality.
I appreciate your takes on all these & I'm new to the 4K game.
I just ordered about $300 in 4K movies & wish I would've discovered your content sooner, ie T2.
However, I stay away from the steel books due to wanting to pack as many classics as possible in my DVD hutch.
And that's why I didn't go for the Indy steel book collection.
Keep up the good reviews please!
T2 is very cheap tho for the 4k version and includes the bluray disc so its still worth it!
Completely disagree on Inglorious Basterds. I don’t know what you’re seeing, have the Steelbook and it looks great on my set up. The rest of your choices I agree on or understand.
I agree with you. This guy must of been on LSD, when he watched the Basterds. I think it's one of the greatest 4k transfers of all time. I watched it on a Sony A8H and OPPO 203. This guy loses all credibility with me. Maybe somebody paid him to trash the disc? Who knows. This disc was perfection. It smokes the bluray.
@@stephensdygert7600 chill
@@RetroBacon1 take a pill.
I personally find the critique on the Inglorious Basterds 4K absurd. It looks absolute fine to me, no issues and like I remembered it from the cinema (just better, obviously). I don't see it as tempered with but instead as the original digital intermediate with added HDR. I guess the Blu Ray image was tempered with much more.
Mad Max II & III audio was also fine. Maybe not the original but you'd have to be a super fan to notice.
Also everybody interested in physical media releases of Star Trek should buy the new set or who knows if there is going to be another one in the future. It is again fine for what it is.
Whilst I haven't seen the 4k Terminator 2, I would think nothing could be worse than Gremlins 4k which I bought last week. Some parts of it is on a par with VHS quality. These companies should be ashamed of themselves.
The problem with 4K is always, you need to check all the Information about the Disc before you buy. Back in the day where only 1080p Blu-rays existed, you could just Go and buy. No Research needed.
Not really true. It’s basically the same. There have always been errors and bad transfers and the like.
I felt dumb when I went and bought the Lord Of the Rings and The Hobbit trilogies in 4K, because I found out literally only a few days later that they were gonna do a compilation release later on, and felt I should have just held out and got that instead. Seems I made the right call after all with the individual trilogy releases. Thank you.
They're not the same thing.
You need to get real.
If It's different its different.
A 1st edition is unique.
They go to all the trouble to stamp these things as 1st edition and 2nd edition and 3rd edition etc..
They're not the same thing.
@@dreyn7780 ? Are you sure that comment was meant for me?
Great consumer advice. I’ve also taken your advice and just got 5 of your Top Ten best 4K discs, thanks for your reviews and have a good Christmas.
I totally agree with the Indiana Jones Steel Book set, I pre-ordered it from Best Buy and was very disappointed with the art work and packaging when I got it!!! Love this idea for 10 worst categories! Great Channel!!!!
Indiana Jones is just fine.
Back in the day a fan could only buy a plastic cup.
This was the most positive, negative video I've seen. It's fascinating to hear all the mistakes that unfortunately keep getting made in this format. But it's constructive to lay it all out and maybe call more attention to it. Video and sound are usually the first thing to get called out, but there's not enough attention given to things like packaging and design. Something like an awesome cover art can be the deciding factor for whether I upgrade a disc or not.
Found this video and really enjoyed it. Very much refreshing and very informative
Inglorious I think looks good but it's not a huge jump. I'm definitely not going to say it's bad, it's just not a big jump from the Blu-ray. I do still think it's an upgrade though. How much of an upgrade is up to you and what you feel is worth the price. While I'd like to be blown away with each upgrade, some of these just aren't going to benefit a whole lot when the Blu-ray is already good. It's the older films or movies that get new scans are the ones I get excited for.
I enjoy the upgrade and consider it the 4K best buy of the year at $9.99.
I hear again about Terminator 2 and for me it's magnificent 4k blu ray. No noise and a lot of details ! I realy don't understand why people still like to see noise in movies. For me it ruins a movie
Once I slid the discs out of the CITIZEN KANE box, I put the discs in slimline jewel cases. I do that with any disc, whether bluray, 4K or CD that comes in a cardboard sleeve.
How can 6 movies be on 30 fucking discs!?!?!?!?
If paramount are going down the first four route, they should have just settled on the original trilogy of 2,3 and 4. Missed out motion picture all together.
New to channel and great content Geoff thanks 😎👌
Prediction at 1:37, his pick for worst overall is Inglorious Basterds.
Edit: Damn, I don’t know how I completely forgot about the Middle Earth set. That one seriously might out-turkey Inglorious Basterds. It might even beat Terminator 2. That set did bring nice Atmos audio and a few good special features to the mix, but that’s certainly not worth the extreme price.
I actually didn't mind the dnr look of T2
@@chrisjfox8715 I completely agree, thought it looked great compared to Blu-ray. Hard to please some folk 😊
I'm not a fan of film grain, I think it looks even worse in 4k, always skip anything with grain.
@@nasirsaleem4016 i love film grain when it's executed well and fairly consistently. The issue is that any given film is often shot on a variety of different film stocks in a variety of lighting conditions, so the quality and texture of the grain can change from shot to shot depending on how good the cinematographer was at wrangling it all. And 4k is so high res that it amplifies the apparentness of these scene-to-scene differences. The original Blade Runner is all over the place with its grain, whereas a film like Doubt (albeit not in 4K yet) has a really nice and consistent filmic grain throughout.
I had the older Citizen Kane boxed set that had slots for three discs. I took out the 4K and the bonus discs out of the Criterion case and put these three in the old boxed set!