I don’t doubt it, but I also think Disney should have more oversight. Especially when it comes to transporting large numbers of people, and They basically run a company town, with little to no regulation,
@@arex9000 like I said, I don't really disagree. Disney is a huge monopoly in their industry, they deserve a lot of oversight, not just this little bit.
Walt Disney World is going to be destroyed by Ron DeSantis anyway. His plan is to turn all of Walt Disney world into bigger truck stop like you see at Iowa I 80.
@@followthebradleysfun You need to lay down your crack pipe and actually learn how to use a search engine it's only been one so you can take DeSantis and you can take Trump and you can shove both of them up your proverbial
Not exactly apples to apples since (a) you MUST ride the monorail to get to WDW, unless you want to ride a boat, and (b) Disney’s monorail is FREE (also very safe as far no homeless sleeping on it, etc). If ppl across the county HAD to ride a (safe) monorail and it was free, the numbers would be wildly different.
Disney has generally been ahead of the game with just about everything. The first 911 emergency telephone service in Florida was operated by Disney for Reedy Creek Emergency Services. Disney has its own telephone company, which operated the 911 system. The Disney-owned Vista-Florida Telephone Company was the world's first all-electronic telephone system, which featured a call back feature which would have the system call back a busy number as soon as it was free. For the monorail, they built in every conceivable safety and emergency feature to ensure passenger safety and emergency escape in every conceivable situation. They know what they're doing and have a hella better safety record than any government agency.
Until, as a private company, they decide to start charging for a 911 call, or monitoring your phone calls (can you say "Google reads email"?). How about that 2009 Monorail death? Are you saying the line will not be safer with FDOT inspections? How is Boeing doing safety-wise policing itself?
Actually no bombardier was the one maintaining it on a contract and before this bombardier told disney there were major safety concerns with the monorail and that they should consider upgrading and replacing them. They have no emergency walkway they have no central hub and there safety systems are so outdated that it not funny. Heck they had a door fall off at one point. So obviously the state needs to do these and I would even let the state do it every year. The point of the FDOT is to protect the public and I believe they will have good standards for the monorail as its sister is the one in Jacksonville that they over see Jacksonville is just more advanced and has had no major incidents.
U can’t govern by individual company with regulations. Certainly the company failing in safety procedures has to rise up Oversight is any field deemed needing regulations for everyone, not just those “untrustworthy “
People don't realize Disney has the highest standards for themselves. They don't need oversight because they have higher standards and better engineers than the state. Considering one major incident happened in the lifetime of their existence is pretty good
And the Demo Rats falsely claim they want to tax the wealthy until Disney gets taxed and regulated and then they stomp their feet and cry like a two year old in a toy store
The fact that the NTSB report after the Disney Employee was killed said there should be government oversight of the monorails makes this a non-partisan issue. The Republican majority state already regulates privately run public transportation in the rest of the state.
Therefore , because it’s a public travel means , it should be regulated, and follow the same rules as greyhound, airlines, rail systems, or any transportation. Disney has not had to follow rules and now they don’t want to be accountable. @@davidwelty9763
Hasnt the Disney monorail been involved in less accidents its entire life time than Brightline its first year of operation? Wrong priorities as always Florida...
@@TheStrangeKage Disney is 40+ square miles and is run like its own town. There is very good reason for that. All of this is just Ron's tantrum that he can't be hateful to gay people without consequences.
Its funny how much tax payer money desantis is willing to waste because a private company had the nerve to say they disagree with his policies. Very conservative, Very American
Very hypocritical, too! Let’s not forget that the moron got married at Disney… now he’s all about hating everything Disney is about. Ugh he’s a pathetic juvenile
I always liked the monorail at Disney. I live in NJ, and my family would always go to Florida for vacation (mostly Daytona and Kissimmee, but we’ve been to St Pete’s Beach, Jacksonville, and Miami Beach as well). I like the model monorail train. All that’s missing is a model version of either Cinderella’s Castle or Spaceship Earth.
There is a Cinderella Castle, Spaceship Earth, Space Mountain, Tree of life, and Contemporary Resort building that match this model monorail. I know this because we have all of them.
It’ll be interesting since the fleet is from 1990 and is long past its expected lifespan. About a year ago when my family stayed in the Contemporary, the monorails seemed to be constantly breaking down. Plus the elevator inspection papers in the main tower had expired in 2018. I do wonder how well Disney has been maintaining any of this.
@@hobogYou’re thinking of monorail teal and peach, which were built from useable cars from the retired pink and purple monorails, and the only reason those colors were retired was due to the deadly crash in 09 they talked about. Mark IV trains have run from 71-91 while Mark VI trains have run from 89-present, so almost 35 years! You rarely see cars that age still on the road, and yet these monorail systems are in constant all day use. They probably have several million miles on each.
@@UmmYeahOk Average age of airplanes in use by US carriers is about 20 years. Average age of Amtrak locomotives, 21 years. Average age of Amtrak train cars, 31 years. Heck, MCO didn't retire their first people mover trams until they were 35 years old.
@@yutakohyeah, but compared to Disneyland’s monorail system, Mark 1 was 2 years, Mark II was 8 years, Mark III 18 years, Mark V 21 years, and the Mark VII 16 so far. I get that technological advancements allowed them to continue running longer than previous models, but while they were replacing Disneyland’s, they left WDW, only refurbishing their interiors for the 50th. They replaced DL’s 21yo Mark V when WDW’s 35yo Mark IV was only 19yo. Why would a fourth generation be used for 35 years with no plans of retiring, with a fifth generation being retired after 19? Keeping in mind that DL’s track is way shorter, thus, not used as heavily as WDW’s. WDW has been getting a lot of negative press in the last few years about these trains, with them breaking down, or leaving doors open while riding.
LOL - more tax burden for Floridians.... and Disney run things better than any State entity - their service and customer experience (and profits) depend on it. I love using the Monorails when there. I travel the world and ride trains and other "mono"-rail services... nothing beats Disney's system or standards. The closest to Disney is Singapore's MRT system and it's an excellent system and service.... but then Singapore is a giant super sized Epcot!
Isn’t Brightline privately owned? Isn’t it regulated by FDOT? What I heard in the video was that FDOT only regulated the government owned trains in Florida. I think Brightline was overlooked.
Under normal circumstances I would considder state oversight of transport security a good thing. But when DeSantis is involved it immediately smells fishy.
DeSantis is retaliating, however the state oversight was a good idea, he did it in a way that will just prove disneys case in court about how he retaliated against them when they said negative things towards him…. but I dont see the court overturning the monorail oversight..
@@ambientcoot8715 Well there's a legitimate government interest in monitoring the monorail so that'll stay, but any inspection beyond what is normal for other transportation systems and clearly in retaliation of Disney's free speech rights would likely be enjoined.
Do you have a problem at work? Do you have unresolved maintenance issues that your company won’t fix? Just call daddy DeSantis and watch your problems evaporate much like his presidential campaign.
in the state of wisconsin, public/ private doesn't matter . carnival rides are inspected for safety along these lines . this keeps companies on the up and up. ignoring maintenance, ,disabling safety features to just keep it running till we can fix it is a no go. I agree with desantis, you may not like his reasons, nor will I comment on what they might be . i can see this as a way to make sure what your riding is safe.if disney is not hiding anything what's the problem?
Used to have one back home in Oklahoma City fair grounds but they shut it down with all the other iconic landmarks like the space needle. Now it’s basically a carnival with a giant over priced food court. I miss the old days…
The toy monorail set is available in the Disney Store at WDW, I think. And Jax is the only other "monorail type" system; none of the people movers are.
The Skyway Express in Jax isn't even a monorail system, and it's referred to as a people mover. How do I know? My dad was the original project manager for the build that build the span from Main Street down to the Convention Center.
@@ImpendingJoker wikipedia, nearly every news story I could find about the system, and more to the point The Monorail Society all agree that in fact Jacksonville is a monorail system. It replaced a people mover system which was not monorail design in 1994. Sorry.
I haven't checked recently, but I believe you can buy the monorail toy at both Walt Disney World at numerous store locations, as well as the web store, and you can buy them in California at world of Disney, and inside the park. In some locations, different versions of the train are available in different colors, I'm not sure if you can get the California ones in Florida or the Florida train in California but I know I have purchased in the past Florida trains in California. I've been collecting them for years and have almost every version of the train that's been released, which I believe is around 14 different model, types and colors, there are even model versions from Japan, but I only have one of those. Tons of fun though I highly suggest everyone gets one and they're a lot easier to set up around the Christmas tree and then a train, just saying.
@@baylinkdashyt I went to the shopdisny webb page and they no longer have the monorail set but I'm sure you can find it from a second party. ihere are people who live near the parks that buy things inside the park and then resell them online.
You have to understand what "breaks down" means in this context. If there's a single safety feature or operational issue, Disney's policy is to take the train out of service. Their safety policies have made their monorails statistically the safest form of transportation in the world. A higher percentage of people die while _walking._
There's only one death in the how many years collectively at both us parks. I think disney is doing very well with safety and maintenance. Plus they learned from that accident and put new safety procedures in place.
Yeah and the cause of that death was that the supervisor who was supposed to be overseeing where the trains are decided to take a dinner break at that time and no one came by to relieve him. Disney fixed that oversight in a hurry. And wouldn't be surprised if Disney monorails carry more passengers in a year than all of mass transit in the entire state of Florida combined!
@@Mike__B I knew somebody would bite on my troll. As the news piece says they've been operating monorails for 60 years at Disneyland and 50 years here at Walt Disney World in Orlando. Unlike you, apparently, I can add 50 and 60. ;-)
Yes! Let's not worry about safety! Safety is for wimps! Lol. Do you know that disney is responsible for the safety and maintenance of the monorail .were you got the idea " taxpayers " pay for it? Lol
Bad Idea? I think it is a good idea The Mouse needs to have their 10 year inspection it is not a state rule it is federal and Desantis is enforcing the law. Universal also had theirs inspected last year.
@@12masterrwant to worry about safety? Maybe that useless governor and his goons could go fix the murder highway aka i4 Oh wait....Disney Made little ronny upset.
As a non-American, i am surprised that Disney were allowed to self regulate for so long. Pretty much anywhere else on the world, all public and private railways are regulated by a separate public body, eg the UK having ORR.
They do have a regulating body. They have their own ( rather did) charter govt that does all the things county / local govts do. In this case they owned and influenced it. By all accounts it ran very well and kept the lights and water running
The Disney monorail has a better safety record than any other form of transportation in the world over the past half century, including escalators and moving sidewalks. They should be instructing everyone else. (And in the case of Las Vegas, did.)
That is actually incorrect as the fully automatic monorail like its sister in Jacksonville is has had no major incidents in its life and faces a much harsher environment.
@@maxwellrpetersonthe current cars on the Jacksonville skyway are Bombardier cars that came from Disney’s sale of designs for the monorail to Bombardier. Just more proof of the resilience of the monorail.
@@koolbob23 you are incorrect jacksonville has gen 2 Inovia(200) where the disney ones are mark IV and where developed by bombardier family in 1950 before disney was built disney own no design and sole design lies with bombardier/Alstom. I use sister same as ship they are similar but different as the Jacksonville system has a main hub dedicated to safety and security of the system. Where all trams postion are known and can be controlled there are bypass on board for emergency and rail cars to bring them into station in case of power loss but overall they remain the same.
So now, the best transportation system, with the best safety record in the world, will be controlled by the absolute DUMBEST state government in the history of the United States. ( I would be afraid to ride it now.)
I worked for two amusement parks in Pennsylvania and everything that moved required a state inspection, allowing a company to do it's own safety inspection in place of the state. Well we all know how well that worked out when the FAA let Boeing do it's own inspection for them.
Why would you say Fdot ? Just say Florida Department of transportation so people know what you’re talking about. Some people don’t even know what that means fdot.
Party that is vehemently against regulations, especially those and public safety, clean air and water finds its way to make an acceptation with Disney to teach it a lesson about being woke--whatever that means.
Who wants to bet the state minimum requirements will be the same or less then Disney? The Disney Train is also a transportation system. But of course the reason they didn't go after that is they would then have to go after EVERY private railway in a theme park in FL. And since this was a direct attack on Disney... Republicans, the party of regulation in favor of private business, unless you criticize the government.
Willing to bet Disney has had more passengers travel safely and FDOT without the foundation to incorporate more travel safely. A great place to start would be in Denver.
Hi - lifetime Denverite here. No, we don't want this. A transportation system made for rich cultists will not solve our current problems with homelessness and transportation.
Wasn’t a foolish comment. Denver has grown and knows how to make public transportation safe. From the development of the light rail system is tremendous. RTD was “reason to drive” until 2k. Back then light rail extended to good part down south running to downtown. Watched grow down 25 and
I was a monorail pilot when that accident occurred taking Austin away. I do know they take safety seriously. Just leaving a gate open for a moment will trigger a manual shut down. Ask how I know. The accident when the two crashed was not the system failing. It was management not paying attention. The monorail did what it was told. Management was operating the monorail off site. So no one was watching the system when a switching maneuver was taking place.
At $250m a piece, disney isnt going to replace them any tome soon. They'll run them until the doors fall off, and then will keep running them. On this note, they are in better shape than most other similar transit system in the state. The one in jax is on its last legs and it is a newer system
The automation of the WDW Monorail, was because of the crash in 2009. I was a pilot 10 years before this happened, 3 people were at fault, 2 monorail pilots with their radios off, and the manager who was off property. If monorail Pink driver wasn't a rookie he should have seen the beamway on the right side of the train, going thru switchbeams 8 & 9 in a reverse MAPO. He would have then known his procedure was correct. Monorail purple driver Austin , would have known pink was backing up and would have stopped at one of the last holdpoints on Epcot beam. Just for safety, in case a switch wasn't done right. Disney's safety inspections were impeccable, The only problem is that the Mark 6 monorails are 35 years old, the oldest one being Monorail Orange, they need to be replaced
What's going to end up happening with this is the state's going to come in and inspect it are they going to find out it's not up to par and Disney solution is just going to be it's going to cost us too much to fix it we're just going to close it down
If disney were actually maintaining the monorail system to a strict standard then they would of had no problem allowing for state inspections to occur. The fact that they fought so hard to prevent independent inspections on any of their rides or transportation systems is a telling sign
The issue is their freedom of speech and retaliation. Of course they should defend themselves. Imagine if the government was coming after you, are you going to sit there and take it?
@@timetraveler9218 Hard to have a freedom of speech argument when the District was already supposed to be a separate entity of Disney. Can't get all "freedom of speech" and righteous when a mega corporation is abusing it's power to run it's own private government. Using tax payer funds to build it's own projects etc.
It is more than ride or monorail inspections it’s the charter govt that Florida gave to Disney back when they started Allowing them to create their own govt infrastructure and tax themselves to serve their communities. This is not the only company that had a charter govt in Florida but it’s the only one Florida revoked and also the state did not follow what the charter says about rescinding the charter. It’s pure Desantis finger pointing and retaliation b/c of his thin skin and fragile ego. Thank the heavens ( so far) he will stay in Florida and not spread his wings across America We don’t need another trump like personality even if he is supposedly smarter
To all who dont know about monorail. The disney monorail is not safe. During most of its life bombardier the manufacturer of all disney monorail from the beginning had a contract to maintain it as of 2023 bombardier monorail been bought out and the contract and parts are scarce. Bombardier before this has also told disney that the monorail had major safty issues and that they should start thinking about an overhall including to a much safer automated system. After this a death of a monorail pilot do to them operating at night with minimum lights and a door coming off the FDOT should be controlling it as it has become a public safty matter.
Obviously, there are many Disney fans here. You’ll never see things for what they really are since you defend the parks. The thing here is seeing how Disney became the monster it is and how they have been getting away with so much for so many years.
They are if they have to nit pick over regs that worked (for 60 years and millions of passengers) for a year... but haven't published anything yet... and are still "inspecting".
Was it really necessary to show footage of the incident and show the individual whom died!?! NO!!! Very disrespecting of the family and cast members involved and that still work there. 🙄
Lol, 'as long as people are safe'. Insightful commentary. This is clearly some pathetic DeSantis retaliation against Disney. Sad that they only spent 2s in this clip mentioning this as a 'possibility'.
DeSantis' lawyers argue in court this wasn't targeted, but the bill is targeted to a comical degree; it mentions this applies only to parks in "special districts that have borders with two contiguous counties" lol, cause only Disney has borders with two contiguous counties. DeSantis is one big petty idiot. Not only that, Universal parks were just handed a special district where the board is made up of Universal employees voted in by the company itself and it's building a monorail under the new special district. It's all comically stupid.
John Armstrong would be a perfect person to actually consult as he was part of the team that actually came up with General Code of Procedures for Disneys rail systems in the parks. No politician or governor knows or has the first incling of idea how a railroad is operated and sadly most rules are written in blood. Mistakes and violations are often found after an event because no one sees a problem til it becomes one. The fact Disney has operated for so long without government oversight is amazing and the death and injury rate is so low, is a testament to a company that not only recognizes problems when they present and fixes them immediately, but also to the fact, they dont wait for the government to tell them to fix a problem, they just go ahead and do it, without question. Justs saying for all of desantis bluster about smaller government he certainly is anxious to creat more government when it suits him.
Rhonda Santis revenge 2.0. Disney self-monitors their rides and transportation BETTER than the State of Florida ever could. So, let taxpayers fund this unnecessary shenanigans. Revenge: Just another reason why Rhonda is unfit for President.
As much as I’m all for taking away “Special Privilege” from any company, I’m all for less government. Private companies like Disney are all about guest and employee safety, and can do what is necessary to maintain that without many of the ridiculous rules imposed by the state. Quite frankly, it’s about the bottom line, and they will spend the amount of money in the correct places to prevent paying even more on a wrongful death or lifetime injury lawsuit.
The Walt Disney Monorail has a better safety record then any other public transportation in Florida, and has been operating for 53 years. Idiot Disney CEO Bob Chapek really screwed up, I have no idea why the Disney Board did not fire him on the spot when Florida started to make noise about taking Reedy Creek away. This will only hurt the people that spend a lot of money to vacation at Disney. Any increased operating expenses, because of this, will just be passed on to Disney guests. What they really can't figure out is how Disney operates the the countries 3 largest transportation system by the number of people they move a year, outside of NY and Chicago, so efficiently with a 99.9% up time. Disney has been operating pretty much flawlessly since they opened in 1971, but here comes the government to run it better.
Let’s take something funded privately, maintained privately and has an outstanding safety record and those the government into it to use up more tax dollars and headaches. Desantis needs to go this guys a joke.
So let me get this straight.... The engineers fro mthe government admitted they have no fing clue how these work or are supposed to work. But they want to regulate them??? And inspect them? But needed to ask for a manual because again they don't actually have any clue what they are looking for.
MORE INFO: www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2024/01/08/state-of-florida-begins-regulating-disney-world-monorail/
The reporter waited his entire career to play with that train.
That you can buy is the gift shops 😂 this reporting has to be interns
Given the state of the Disney / DeSantis relationships, I highly doubt this is actually strictly about the Monorail.
I don’t doubt it, but I also think Disney should have more oversight. Especially when it comes to transporting large numbers of people, and They basically run a company town, with little to no regulation,
@@kade115 Desantis is really bored isnt he. Instead of worry about real issues in florida, he just wants to attack the mouse.
@@arex9000 like I said, I don't really disagree. Disney is a huge monopoly in their industry, they deserve a lot of oversight, not just this little bit.
Walt Disney World is going to be destroyed by Ron DeSantis anyway. His plan is to turn all of Walt Disney world into bigger truck stop like you see at Iowa I 80.
Of course not, it's about corrupt politicians abusing their power.
One fatality in fifty years? Let's get the government involved and make it all better.
Republicans believe in deregulation, unless a business says something they disagree with. Then they believe in as much regulation as possible.
It's more than one
@@followthebradleysfun You need to lay down your crack pipe and actually learn how to use a search engine it's only been one so you can take DeSantis and you can take Trump and you can shove both of them up your proverbial
can they come run the MBTA
They lost a door at one point that almost hit a guest
This is literally DeSantis just wanting to punish Disney.
And rightfully so
@@bowler7922 Spoken like a true DeSantis lover.
@@bowler7922 You’re a gullible fool.
FDOT also regulates Brightline.
Even the US NSTB stated, there should be external oversight.,
are they trying to figure out how a theme park's monorail moves more people more efficiently than most places in this country
Not exactly apples to apples since (a) you MUST ride the monorail to get to WDW, unless you want to ride a boat, and (b) Disney’s monorail is FREE (also very safe as far no homeless sleeping on it, etc). If ppl across the county HAD to ride a (safe) monorail and it was free, the numbers would be wildly different.
The Disney Monorail had a crash in 2009. Brightline is also regulated by FDOT.
Brightline has killed 97 people which has Florida over site. Why do you want so many people killed? You are one sicko. @@tonyburzio4107
Disney has generally been ahead of the game with just about everything. The first 911 emergency telephone service in Florida was operated by Disney for Reedy Creek Emergency Services. Disney has its own telephone company, which operated the 911 system. The Disney-owned Vista-Florida Telephone Company was the world's first all-electronic telephone system, which featured a call back feature which would have the system call back a busy number as soon as it was free.
For the monorail, they built in every conceivable safety and emergency feature to ensure passenger safety and emergency escape in every conceivable situation. They know what they're doing and have a hella better safety record than any government agency.
Disney of the 1980s isn’t Disney of the 2020s. Completely different management, people, policies, etc.
What does that even mean? U can say that about everything…
Until, as a private company, they decide to start charging for a 911 call, or monitoring your phone calls (can you say "Google reads email"?). How about that 2009 Monorail death? Are you saying the line will not be safer with FDOT inspections? How is Boeing doing safety-wise policing itself?
Actually no bombardier was the one maintaining it on a contract and before this bombardier told disney there were major safety concerns with the monorail and that they should consider upgrading and replacing them. They have no emergency walkway they have no central hub and there safety systems are so outdated that it not funny. Heck they had a door fall off at one point. So obviously the state needs to do these and I would even let the state do it every year. The point of the FDOT is to protect the public and I believe they will have good standards for the monorail as its sister is the one in Jacksonville that they over see Jacksonville is just more advanced and has had no major incidents.
Be better if FLDOT could pick up trash on the roads...
For real, maybe make our highways safer to drive on as well?
That trash lets you know what kind of state you're in.
Most of the trash comes from the design of WastePro recycling trucks. If you want to argue about it with the boys from Jersey, feel free...
Wow so more government oversight is the answer. Interesting.
Only after a company has shown they are not trustworthy.
You know, the cornerstone of GOP policy.
U can’t govern by individual company with regulations. Certainly the company failing in safety procedures has to rise up Oversight is any field deemed needing regulations for everyone, not just those “untrustworthy “
As opposed to NO oversight?
I sure every theme park in the country would love the deal Disney had.
Almost as autonomous as Vatican City Rome
People don't realize Disney has the highest standards for themselves.
They don't need oversight because they have higher standards and better engineers than the state. Considering one major incident happened in the lifetime of their existence is pretty good
Hes been waiting decades to use that monorail as a prop
He's been waiting to use that monorail as a poop.
The GOP opposes the regulation of businesses, except when they don't like the business in question.
And the Demo Rats falsely claim they want to tax the wealthy until Disney gets taxed and regulated and then they stomp their feet and cry like a two year old in a toy store
The fact that the NTSB report after the Disney Employee was killed said there should be government oversight of the monorails makes this a non-partisan issue. The Republican majority state already regulates privately run public transportation in the rest of the state.
Therefore , because it’s a public travel means , it should be regulated, and follow the same rules as greyhound, airlines, rail systems, or any transportation. Disney has not had to follow rules and now they don’t want to be accountable. @@davidwelty9763
Hasnt the Disney monorail been involved in less accidents its entire life time than Brightline its first year of operation? Wrong priorities as always Florida...
I wish the state would regulate all the ash falling on my house from burning sugarcane.
Hope Ronnie’s tantrum was worth it. Shame on our legislators for enabling his narcissistic behavior.
Ummmmm. Disney is not is own city. It's a private company living in Florida.
@@TheStrangeKage is it okay for government to punish people for disagreeing with them?
@@TheStrangeKage Disney is 40+ square miles and is run like its own town. There is very good reason for that. All of this is just Ron's tantrum that he can't be hateful to gay people without consequences.
Calm down and get back on your medications.
@@blintzkreig1638 This is purely Ronnie's hissy.
Its funny how much tax payer money desantis is willing to waste because a private company had the nerve to say they disagree with his policies. Very conservative, Very American
Very hypocritical, too! Let’s not forget that the moron got married at Disney… now he’s all about hating everything Disney is about. Ugh he’s a pathetic juvenile
I always liked the monorail at Disney. I live in NJ, and my family would always go to Florida for vacation (mostly Daytona and Kissimmee, but we’ve been to St Pete’s Beach, Jacksonville, and Miami Beach as well). I like the model monorail train. All that’s missing is a model version of either Cinderella’s Castle or Spaceship Earth.
There is a Cinderella Castle, Spaceship Earth, Space Mountain, Tree of life, and Contemporary Resort building that match this model monorail. I know this because we have all of them.
Disney should have say… go ask Ronny D., he knows all the things.
It’ll be interesting since the fleet is from 1990 and is long past its expected lifespan. About a year ago when my family stayed in the Contemporary, the monorails seemed to be constantly breaking down. Plus the elevator inspection papers in the main tower had expired in 2018. I do wonder how well Disney has been maintaining any of this.
Thought they have trains from after 2010 running
Honest answer it hasn't been maintaining much if anything. Proof is in the pudding....
@@hobogYou’re thinking of monorail teal and peach, which were built from useable cars from the retired pink and purple monorails, and the only reason those colors were retired was due to the deadly crash in 09 they talked about.
Mark IV trains have run from 71-91 while Mark VI trains have run from 89-present, so almost 35 years! You rarely see cars that age still on the road, and yet these monorail systems are in constant all day use. They probably have several million miles on each.
@@UmmYeahOk Average age of airplanes in use by US carriers is about 20 years. Average age of Amtrak locomotives, 21 years. Average age of Amtrak train cars, 31 years. Heck, MCO didn't retire their first people mover trams until they were 35 years old.
@@yutakohyeah, but compared to Disneyland’s monorail system, Mark 1 was 2 years, Mark II was 8 years, Mark III 18 years, Mark V 21 years, and the Mark VII 16 so far. I get that technological advancements allowed them to continue running longer than previous models, but while they were replacing Disneyland’s, they left WDW, only refurbishing their interiors for the 50th. They replaced DL’s 21yo Mark V when WDW’s 35yo Mark IV was only 19yo. Why would a fourth generation be used for 35 years with no plans of retiring, with a fifth generation being retired after 19? Keeping in mind that DL’s track is way shorter, thus, not used as heavily as WDW’s. WDW has been getting a lot of negative press in the last few years about these trains, with them breaking down, or leaving doors open while riding.
LOL - more tax burden for Floridians.... and Disney run things better than any State entity - their service and customer experience (and profits) depend on it. I love using the Monorails when there. I travel the world and ride trains and other "mono"-rail services... nothing beats Disney's system or standards. The closest to Disney is Singapore's MRT system and it's an excellent system and service.... but then Singapore is a giant super sized Epcot!
Isn’t Brightline privately owned? Isn’t it regulated by FDOT? What I heard in the video was that FDOT only regulated the government owned trains in Florida. I think Brightline was overlooked.
Indeed, FDOT is why Brightline has no plans to cross the Florida border, they would come under Federal regulation instead.
do your homework before you make stupid posts. @@tonyburzio4107
Brightline intersects with FDOT property. So that makes sense
The monorails do break down and have some issues, and could probably use some updating... but I trust Disney more than the gov getting involved
THIS, especially the corrupt, regressive Florida state government.
Under normal circumstances I would considder state oversight of transport security a good thing. But when DeSantis is involved it immediately smells fishy.
DeSantis is retaliating, however the state oversight was a good idea, he did it in a way that will just prove disneys case in court about how he retaliated against them when they said negative things towards him…. but I dont see the court overturning the monorail oversight..
@@ambientcoot8715 Well there's a legitimate government interest in monitoring the monorail so that'll stay, but any inspection beyond what is normal for other transportation systems and clearly in retaliation of Disney's free speech rights would likely be enjoined.
oh ffs, what a stupid idea. its safer than driving, and safer than flying. how much safer can it be? NONE.
Do you have a problem at work? Do you have unresolved maintenance issues that your company won’t fix? Just call daddy DeSantis and watch your problems evaporate much like his presidential campaign.
in the state of wisconsin, public/ private doesn't matter . carnival rides are inspected for safety along these lines . this keeps companies on the up and up. ignoring maintenance, ,disabling safety features to just keep it running till we can fix it is a no go. I agree with desantis, you may not like his reasons, nor will I comment on what they might be . i can see this as a way to make sure what your riding is safe.if disney is not hiding anything what's the problem?
Used to have one back home in Oklahoma City fair grounds but they shut it down with all the other iconic landmarks like the space needle. Now it’s basically a carnival with a giant over priced food court. I miss the old days…
What do you expect from a Republican-run state?
The toy monorail set is available in the Disney Store at WDW, I think.
And Jax is the only other "monorail type" system; none of the people movers are.
The Skyway Express in Jax isn't even a monorail system, and it's referred to as a people mover. How do I know? My dad was the original project manager for the build that build the span from Main Street down to the Convention Center.
@@ImpendingJoker wikipedia, nearly every news story I could find about the system, and more to the point The Monorail Society all agree that in fact Jacksonville is a monorail system. It replaced a people mover system which was not monorail design in 1994. Sorry.
I haven't checked recently, but I believe you can buy the monorail toy at both Walt Disney World at numerous store locations, as well as the web store, and you can buy them in California at world of Disney, and inside the park. In some locations, different versions of the train are available in different colors, I'm not sure if you can get the California ones in Florida or the Florida train in California but I know I have purchased in the past Florida trains in California. I've been collecting them for years and have almost every version of the train that's been released, which I believe is around 14 different model, types and colors, there are even model versions from Japan, but I only have one of those. Tons of fun though I highly suggest everyone gets one and they're a lot easier to set up around the Christmas tree and then a train, just saying.
@@TheGreatPOD Can you get the *powered* set, not just the car-set, off property, too?
@@baylinkdashyt I went to the shopdisny webb page and they no longer have the monorail set but I'm sure you can find it from a second party. ihere are people who live near the parks that buy things inside the park and then resell them online.
Disney Monorails break down daily. Sometimes stupid easy stuff, sometimes major WTF stuff. Hope this fixes that problem.
your troll skills suck.
I wouldn’t trust Florida government with any public transportation things
You have to understand what "breaks down" means in this context. If there's a single safety feature or operational issue, Disney's policy is to take the train out of service. Their safety policies have made their monorails statistically the safest form of transportation in the world. A higher percentage of people die while _walking._
The hard cut to the 2009 crash was SO Uncalled for
Why? Crashes are the reason why transportation departments exist.
There's only one death in the how many years collectively at both us parks. I think disney is doing very well with safety and maintenance. Plus they learned from that accident and put new safety procedures in place.
Yeah and the cause of that death was that the supervisor who was supposed to be overseeing where the trains are decided to take a dinner break at that time and no one came by to relieve him. Disney fixed that oversight in a hurry. And wouldn't be surprised if Disney monorails carry more passengers in a year than all of mass transit in the entire state of Florida combined!
110 years of operation, as noted in the piece, to its credit.
@@baylinkdashyt Disney's Monorails have been in operation for 110 years? Now that is an accomplishment.
ANd snatching kids.
@@Mike__B I knew somebody would bite on my troll. As the news piece says they've been operating monorails for 60 years at Disneyland and 50 years here at Walt Disney World in Orlando. Unlike you, apparently, I can add 50 and 60. ;-)
Too much government already.
Bad idea if tax payers have to pay bills.
Yes! Let's not worry about safety! Safety is for wimps! Lol. Do you know that disney is responsible for the safety and maintenance of the monorail .were you got the idea " taxpayers " pay for it? Lol
@@12masterr If not for going thru that hotel it would be a boring shuttle.
Disney for safety 🤡 @@12masterr
Bad Idea? I think it is a good idea The Mouse needs to have their 10 year inspection it is not a state rule it is federal and Desantis is enforcing the law. Universal also had theirs inspected last year.
@@12masterrwant to worry about safety? Maybe that useless governor and his goons could go fix the murder highway aka i4
Oh wait....Disney Made little ronny upset.
As a non-American, i am surprised that Disney were allowed to self regulate for so long. Pretty much anywhere else on the world, all public and private railways are regulated by a separate public body, eg the UK having ORR.
over here we do it smart. There has to be a reason for the regulation. Regulation just for regulations sake is one reason we make fun of europeans.
They do have a regulating body. They have their own ( rather did) charter govt that does all the things county / local govts do. In this case they owned and influenced it. By all accounts it ran very well and kept the lights and water running
The State of California has had jurisdiction over the Disneyland monorail. They do in by using Cal-OHSA and the DMV.
The Disney monorail has a better safety record than any other form of transportation in the world over the past half century, including escalators and moving sidewalks. They should be instructing everyone else. (And in the case of Las Vegas, did.)
That is actually incorrect as the fully automatic monorail like its sister in Jacksonville is has had no major incidents in its life and faces a much harsher environment.
@@maxwellrpetersonthe current cars on the Jacksonville skyway are Bombardier cars that came from Disney’s sale of designs for the monorail to Bombardier. Just more proof of the resilience of the monorail.
@@koolbob23 you are incorrect jacksonville has gen 2 Inovia(200) where the disney ones are mark IV and where developed by bombardier family in 1950 before disney was built disney own no design and sole design lies with bombardier/Alstom. I use sister same as ship they are similar but different as the Jacksonville system has a main hub dedicated to safety and security of the system. Where all trams postion are known and can be controlled there are bypass on board for emergency and rail cars to bring them into station in case of power loss but overall they remain the same.
According to who? Disney? LMAO
So now, the best transportation system, with the best safety record in the world, will be controlled by the absolute DUMBEST state government in the history of the United States.
( I would be afraid to ride it now.)
Way to go Florida!! Looks like state government is working hard. lol. Florida is such a swamp.
This isnt helping Florida. There are bigger problems.
Don't like Florida, GOOD!! Stay the hell out of our swamp, we don't need your kind down here!!!💩🤡
The only problem Florida has is where to put all the businesses moving down from Liberal cities.
Make sure to stay away too. Nearing 30million people we need to build a wall
Little Ronnie D will not be happy until he drags us all to the depths of hell.
Not adding brightline? 😂
Here’s the dig. Florida DOT will need to be trained by Disney.
Having looked at the manuals now comes the nit picking.
60 years of successful operation bar one death of an employee....
Oh the irony of the party of limited government finding a way to increase government reach for no reason other than petty grievances.
I worked for two amusement parks in Pennsylvania and everything that moved required a state inspection, allowing a company to do it's own safety inspection in place of the state. Well we all know how well that worked out when the FAA let Boeing do it's own inspection for them.
Why would you say Fdot ? Just say Florida Department of transportation so people know what you’re talking about. Some people don’t even know what that means fdot.
Miss the days that you could ride in the front of the monorail.
Because of the wreck.
You still can, just have to ask
Only in California. Florida has discontinued cab riding since 2009
Party that is vehemently against regulations, especially those and public safety, clean air and water finds its way to make an acceptation with Disney to teach it a lesson about being woke--whatever that means.
Ouch! that hammer hit the nail spot on
Who wants to bet the state minimum requirements will be the same or less then Disney? The Disney Train is also a transportation system. But of course the reason they didn't go after that is they would then have to go after EVERY private railway in a theme park in FL. And since this was a direct attack on Disney... Republicans, the party of regulation in favor of private business, unless you criticize the government.
so they basically want to know how disney has done it for fifty years... DeSantis is a loser
FDOT also regulates Brightline, which is very private.
I would think it is still public, because Brightline is public transit. WDW Monorail is not, it is private transit.
Is there a chance the track could bend?
The track is super thick concrete it ain't gonna bend.
Not on your life, my Hindu friend.
@@josephbennett3482that was a pop culture reference that went wizzing by.
Mono = one and rail = rail. And that concludes our intensive three week course.
Willing to bet Disney has had more passengers travel safely and FDOT without the foundation to incorporate more travel safely. A great place to start would be in Denver.
Hi - lifetime Denverite here. No, we don't want this. A transportation system made for rich cultists will not solve our current problems with homelessness and transportation.
Like... I have about a thousand words to write in response to your foolish comment but I'll leave it at that.
Wasn’t a foolish comment. Denver has grown and knows how to make public transportation safe. From the development of the light rail system is tremendous. RTD was “reason to drive” until 2k. Back then light rail extended to good part down south running to downtown. Watched grow down 25 and
End of the day Denver has mass transit better than Barts and safer than a non existent system in Jacksonville Florida.
Now this is the small government that i love!! Less government less regulation!!! um wait huh?
I was a monorail pilot when that accident occurred taking Austin away. I do know they take safety seriously. Just leaving a gate open for a moment will trigger a manual shut down. Ask how I know. The accident when the two crashed was not the system failing. It was management not paying attention. The monorail did what it was told. Management was operating the monorail off site. So no one was watching the system when a switching maneuver was taking place.
At $250m a piece, disney isnt going to replace them any tome soon. They'll run them until the doors fall off, and then will keep running them. On this note, they are in better shape than most other similar transit system in the state. The one in jax is on its last legs and it is a newer system
Leave it to crazy De santis to find more ways for Fla to waste money. He must be getting kickbacks 😅
WELL DONE. THIS IS A MASTERPIECE. PLEASE BRING BACK GREAT PROFESSIONAL REPORTING AND AMAZING STORYTELLING TO NEWS.
How's that fascism working out for you, Floriduh?
his campaign is dead?
Fascism is the Orlando sentinel. What a horrible newspaper.
@@Patrick-yh5yd You have literally no idea what that word means. Go Florida Man!
@@aishaalamoudi599 it's more than just Ronnie Moon Boots. It's your entire government from the state all the way down to local.
How's that Pedophilia working out for you? Has the state taken ur kids away yet? Stop grooming!
I have never heard of any issues!!!!
The monorail will become ornamental.
Permanently placed at a few locations, like the Contemporary lobby.
DeSantis needs to be regulated more than anything in that state. He's Trump's twin brother when it comes to being morally bankrupt.
The automation of the WDW Monorail, was because of the crash in 2009. I was a pilot 10 years before this happened, 3 people were at fault, 2 monorail pilots with their radios off, and the manager who was off property. If monorail Pink driver wasn't a rookie he should have seen the beamway on the right side of the train, going thru switchbeams 8 & 9 in a reverse MAPO. He would have then known his procedure was correct. Monorail purple driver Austin , would have known pink was backing up and would have stopped at one of the last holdpoints on Epcot beam. Just for safety, in case a switch wasn't done right. Disney's safety inspections were impeccable, The only problem is that the Mark 6 monorails are 35 years old, the oldest one being Monorail Orange, they need to be replaced
All we have to do, is survive two more years than this little want to be dictator will be gone. Probably the only reason Disney stayed n Florida.
Well, it is not like they can box everything up and move.
What's going to end up happening with this is the state's going to come in and inspect it are they going to find out it's not up to par and Disney solution is just going to be it's going to cost us too much to fix it we're just going to close it down
If disney were actually maintaining the monorail system to a strict standard then they would of had no problem allowing for state inspections to occur. The fact that they fought so hard to prevent independent inspections on any of their rides or transportation systems is a telling sign
The issue is their freedom of speech and retaliation. Of course they should defend themselves.
Imagine if the government was coming after you, are you going to sit there and take it?
@@timetraveler9218 Hard to have a freedom of speech argument when the District was already supposed to be a separate entity of Disney. Can't get all "freedom of speech" and righteous when a mega corporation is abusing it's power to run it's own private government. Using tax payer funds to build it's own projects etc.
It is more than ride or monorail inspections it’s the charter govt that Florida gave to Disney back when they started Allowing them to create their own govt infrastructure and tax themselves to serve their communities. This is not the only company that had a charter govt in Florida but it’s the only one Florida revoked and also the state did not follow what the charter says about rescinding the charter. It’s pure Desantis finger pointing and retaliation b/c of his thin skin and fragile ego. Thank the heavens ( so far) he will stay in Florida and not spread his wings across America We don’t need another trump like personality even if he is supposedly smarter
To all who dont know about monorail. The disney monorail is not safe. During most of its life bombardier the manufacturer of all disney monorail from the beginning had a contract to maintain it as of 2023 bombardier monorail been bought out and the contract and parts are scarce. Bombardier before this has also told disney that the monorail had major safty issues and that they should start thinking about an overhall including to a much safer automated system. After this a death of a monorail pilot do to them operating at night with minimum lights and a door coming off the FDOT should be controlling it as it has become a public safty matter.
Obviously, there are many Disney fans here. You’ll never see things for what they really are since you defend the parks. The thing here is seeing how Disney became the monster it is and how they have been getting away with so much for so many years.
I wonder if the monorail would follow FDOT State Safety Oversight (SSO) program?
More government overreach!
just now learning the monorails were not regulated. What the f***!?
Ron DeSantis is looking like a fool.
737 MAX is the best example of corporate self monitoring
"Begins"? You mean it WASN'T regulated before!?
So safteyregulatios are retaliation?
They are if they have to nit pick over regs that worked (for 60 years and millions of passengers)
for a year...
but haven't published anything yet...
and are still "inspecting".
Glad the government could get involved, that’ll fix it.
The government don't fix things, they only rune things for the worst, they can't be trusted
Was it really necessary to show footage of the incident and show the individual whom died!?! NO!!! Very disrespecting of the family and cast members involved and that still work there. 🙄
If the state inspected that monorail, it would be shut down.
Republicans: WE WANT LESS GOVERNMENT!
Also Republicans:
Lol, 'as long as people are safe'. Insightful commentary. This is clearly some pathetic DeSantis retaliation against Disney. Sad that they only spent 2s in this clip mentioning this as a 'possibility'.
DeSantis' lawyers argue in court this wasn't targeted, but the bill is targeted to a comical degree; it mentions this applies only to parks in "special districts that have borders with two contiguous counties" lol, cause only Disney has borders with two contiguous counties. DeSantis is one big petty idiot. Not only that, Universal parks were just handed a special district where the board is made up of Universal employees voted in by the company itself and it's building a monorail under the new special district. It's all comically stupid.
Regardless of the reason this is a good thing
The state and Disney should work on traffic cutting thru Disney to get to hwy 429.
That might be true but you could argue why should Disney get away from the various safety inspections other hotels/theme parks/resorts need to do
Thank you for sharing your opinion. It didn't change anything.
Don’t tell them Disney!
Those monorails are in better condition than Florida’s own transportation
I thought the GOP wanted less regulation ... 🤔
John Armstrong would be a perfect person to actually consult as he was part of the team that actually came up with General Code of Procedures for Disneys rail systems in the parks. No politician or governor knows or has the first incling of idea how a railroad is operated and sadly most rules are written in blood. Mistakes and violations are often found after an event because no one sees a problem til it becomes one. The fact Disney has operated for so long without government oversight is amazing and the death and injury rate is so low, is a testament to a company that not only recognizes problems when they present and fixes them immediately, but also to the fact, they dont wait for the government to tell them to fix a problem, they just go ahead and do it, without question. Justs saying for all of desantis bluster about smaller government he certainly is anxious to creat more government when it suits him.
Big government republicans?
this is only because its public transportation
if anything, disney will raise the minimum safety bar for OTHER passenger rail controlled by FDOT
Governor DeSantis is doing everything he can to get back at Disney.
Rhonda Santis revenge 2.0. Disney self-monitors their rides and transportation BETTER than the State of Florida ever could. So, let taxpayers fund this unnecessary shenanigans. Revenge: Just another reason why Rhonda is unfit for President.
As much as I’m all for taking away “Special Privilege” from any company, I’m all for less government. Private companies like Disney are all about guest and employee safety, and can do what is necessary to maintain that without many of the ridiculous rules imposed by the state. Quite frankly, it’s about the bottom line, and they will spend the amount of money in the correct places to prevent paying even more on a wrongful death or lifetime injury lawsuit.
Disney is too expensive and not worth it anymore.
Your comment has nothing to do with this video.
most everything is too expensive and not worth it anymore
Check out universal studios 😃 new park coming next year
Are you telling me you don't want to spend $1,200 to go ride the Jimmy Fallon experience?
@@Floridafanatic28 same to you
The Walt Disney Monorail has a better safety record then any other public transportation in Florida, and has been operating for 53 years. Idiot Disney CEO Bob Chapek really screwed up, I have no idea why the Disney Board did not fire him on the spot when Florida started to make noise about taking Reedy Creek away. This will only hurt the people that spend a lot of money to vacation at Disney. Any increased operating expenses, because of this, will just be passed on to Disney guests. What they really can't figure out is how Disney operates the the countries 3 largest transportation system by the number of people they move a year, outside of NY and Chicago, so efficiently with a 99.9% up time. Disney has been operating pretty much flawlessly since they opened in 1971, but here comes the government to run it better.
How the monorail wasn't under inspection before is pretty concerning
A second set of eyes is always a good idea.
If the second set of eyes knows what they are doing and are not bribed to make life difficult as retaliation?@@tonyburzio4107
Disney can do it Better than Florida can ever do it
DeSantis needs Disney and Disney needs Florida 😩
Let’s take something funded privately, maintained privately and has an outstanding safety record and those the government into it to use up more tax dollars and headaches. Desantis needs to go this guys a joke.
Please send me you guys model Rail system after this airs plz! It's amazing!
They already sent it to me.
So let me get this straight.... The engineers fro mthe government admitted they have no fing clue how these work or are supposed to work. But they want to regulate them??? And inspect them? But needed to ask for a manual because again they don't actually have any clue what they are looking for.
I like how many people in the comments are defending disney...
Yes, strange.
Big corp. is most often the devil.
Unless it's doing the devils work, I guess.
Maybe this will force Disney to start upgrading the monorail, so many break downs and delays.
Desantis needs to piss off..
The Florida GOP is so silly and unserious 💀😂