i got a bunch of clips saved up of being around 15/0, gigafed, and still getting destroyed with 0 counter play by 0/10 enemy junglers like rengar, vi, kayn, khazix. It gets worse after 25 minutes, the early game is playable atleast.
AD shaco needs scaling lethality on his first Q hit maybe? Like 5base+5 each Point into Q. That way you get another Tool for the Missing Armor pen from items. Rengo has that on his ult Attack aswell ^^
Absolute Most accurate shaco guide ever. I hate it when High elo players try to do guides on this champ meanwhile they played 10 times this champ. Absolut perfect guide, for someone who OTP him since release.
I loved the vid, I used to main Shaco but it's so hard for me to play him now with item change so I had to change, you gained a sub with the guide ^^ and I love your edit style too
Glad to see you're back ! Yeah shaco is definitely in a tough spot right now. You can have fun with him, but it gets harder to carry with him starting P3-D4.
Its what Chase said. Its too much effort to win with this trash champion. You have to communicate perfectly play perfect macro and execute everything mechanical perfectly and you still get something very close to 50% w/r. While a khazix or a rengar just rightclicks and presses combo after 2 kills+buy and oneshot everything.
Best video ive seen in a while, as a main shaco otp playing in high diamond ive been testing a lot too, but i ended up changing my build every game... This is the video i was looking for man THANK U ! Also godlike edything❤
Hey Clone, glad to see another video. Infinity Edge is getting buffed next patch to from 35% to 45% extra crit damage. Shaco is getting stronger hopefully.
@@born2win416rengar has bad synergy with infinity. It only amplifies the non buffed auto attack part of q that's why it wasn't generally built even when it wasn't a mythic
I just recently had a game going AD shaco and I dropped 35 kills killing the enemy with two autos. I just went duskblade essence reaver collector prowlers LDR and then sold boots for kraken slayer and I was doing insane dmg.
I have actually found success with believe or not phantom dancer first item after boots of course. Then infinity edge into essence and the rest is situational. I don't know why but the extra attack speed feels so good kills just come to you for free plus the objective control is amazing of course
Probably because his burst isn't very good and he doesn't really have reliable DPS outside of autoattacks unless you build AP... and even then his boxes rely too much on prior setup and can be taken out pretty easily by anyone who's expecting them.
I take kraken first item into full crit it is insanely good imo since you already get crazy attack speed from kraken you can even take armor boots for survival try it out it's insane
it is. Nonetheless losing 20% AD scaling on it, on a champion that basically only does basic attack damage is still a straight up 20% dmg nerf. Rushing it first item you won´t feel a big difference. At 2 and 3 items, which is the strongest phase in the game, you will definetly feel it on a champion that is allready extremly weak.
What I've been doing early is stealing red by pathing all the way up (when on left side) going into the krugs pit and dropping a ward into the bush above their Red. Then I go to the bush to the right of their red and drop boxes between red spawn area and the bushes I'm hiding in (I've gotten double kills when top rotates to help before doing this, because they don't know where you're dropping the ward from lol) until it's safe to walk out and take it. Then I take my own blue and then I rush to take my own red, then either full clear or gank depending on what's available and you know you gota leave a ward at their red so you can see them cry about it lol.
finally a big youtuber that adressed the problem in my experience it was like that before the item change too, but not as big its aids that a caitlyn can W+AA+Q and im dead, as a marksman, its also aids that a MF can do AA+Q+AA in one second, and im missing 400HP, with level 3 and no lead
Kinda pisses me off that you havent blown up more lets hope rito buffs a mechanic that makes shaco a nightmare (meaning more players try him hopefully leading them to your videos) coz honestly you deserve it far more than many other cheaper league channels all the best 👌
Thankfully in patch 13.14, riot confirmed that they will buff Shaco. Here are the changes. Q bonus damage increased from 25-65 (plus 50 percent bonus attack damage) to 25-65 (plus 60 percent bonus attack damage). Backstab crit bonus increased from 40 to 55 percent. R bugfix: Now properly propagates Prowler’s Claw passive to clone.
@@ace_blaze7685 Lmao "Base health regeneration reduced to 7 to 6". My man. That is a placebo nerf which is even worse than the legendary -5 MS on irelia. Makes no difference and even if it did, the 4 item nerfs in addition toi beeing nerfed in the last 4/5 patches should be enough for most if not all non-otp´s.
I'm that kind of guy who build full damage/lethality and my shaco actually feel decent. My build is Berserk into Reaver or IE or Collector(depend of how fed you are) and a BT
I dropped shaco since durability update, and u stated the obvious splitting is the way So what i did i just played full on splitting champs. Why on earth would i play a champ full damage while i can't oneshot, i can play a tank and he will tickle me.
Hi, I'm on Emerald 2 rank on the PH server with few games and have started maining Shaco. I want to share my gameplay, or if possible I would like you to watch my games live (?). My runes are, HOB > Sudden impact > Eyeball > Treasure Hunter> Free Boots and Cosmic Insight. I chose free boots for saving 300 gold and cosmic insight always makes my smite and ignite ready to go. My most common itemization is Eclipse (Since the clone can proc it as well), Collector or Claw then LDR, and finally, BRK. I'm also going to test out if BRK can be a 2nd item for my set up.
That's why i go on hit lethal tempo shaco, perfect for jg invade, ganking, solo objectives and early to mid 1v1's (even against tanks!). However it doesn't carry much potential for solo carry but most of the time ur team will clean up the enemy with the objective buffs.
Damn thats depressing. Not shadow being "weak" of course, just the fact that jungler players really say they're underpowered when it takes more than 1 basic attack to one shot somebody...league balance is the most fucked up compared to every other moba.
Before item changes I consistently dropped 20 bombs in each game. Now I get one shot by amumus and chunked by nautilus. I'm pretty sure I had a 60%+ WR on shaco. The first game I played after changes, I was disgusted. Duskblade didn't do burst, it lost invis, I couldn't pair with IE, and I just kept getting destroyed by adcs. I played everything perfectly as I used to, yet I kind of understand why shaco is weaker( not as weak as this shit). From the outside perspective, shaco is totally unfair, you would pop into existence and oneshot every player, but I don't think making him a spooky cannon minion is gonna be a good solution. Riot got lazy when nerfing shaco and ended up completely gutting him.
i love that's not just me that have that though, i stopped playing shaco ad because of that, i usually like to play ap because i think its funnier playing with the box placement and the the clone death dmg, and i was done that late game i couldnt 1shot people, and if i manage to kill 1 guy i was dead right after, while the enemy could just1 shot me and run away, i think they dont make shaco more op with buffs is because he is alredy an annoying champ, but i also feel like everytime shaco gets strong he is nerfed right after, while i see the same 3 jgl over 4 patches, its kinda sad that my main, for over 6 years, cant be strong, i play with him still, but because i love his mechanics and i have fun with that, not because i want to win games and rank up, its like my confort champ
idk if u remember me or not but i stopped playing shaco bcs idk if u noticed that or not but it feels like shaco getting nerfed without riot telling us like his W takes more time to activate now i can easily die in my R yea it happenes if i take damage over time like ignite etc but like not everything can kill me while ulting i have been playing shaco since i started playing this game 2016 and i can know if something changed or not and theres some changed beside the items did u feel something weird with shaco ult and W? and i love u bruv keep it up
fair opinion, shaco being viable and annoying would make him become hated even more and perma banned but I still believe that he deserves a minor buff because of how unplayable he is rn
I am a 2.5mil shaco otp, peak masters, currently sitting in d3-d2, I don't ever dare to build ad, I play the ap version of it (I dislike it compared to the old ad version) But ad shaco just isn't what it used to be, and what I mean by that is, 1) no more one shotting the adc (they will always be able to react), 2) all of the videos you posted you are fed, there are champions with perfect farm that one shot the adc with 0/0/0. Shaco is this nerfed because of one tricks on it. I hate its state and I dont play it.
Since watching this video I started playing a lot more ranked to try to Speedrun before the split end and I found stridebreaker bork ldr to be working really well. I basically play for neutrals as much as I can and try to have my team out value the enemy. Using heralds and baron to secure soul and elders if the game goes that far. I also found what you said about splitting really helpful. Since I started focusing on objectives and towers my cs went from about 6 to 8 per minute average, and I consistently end up top 2 on the damage dealt stat. Thoughts on this playstyle?
I used that build to get to p1 this season but its boring and you can't carry a game. You are practically a utility champion. You have very little damage even when too far ahead.
@@Antixandros I found the opposite to be true. I'm able to actually burst and kill most squishies very consistently, especially since it's so hard to kite me when I have stride +bork proc, plus I also have enough DPS with bork + ldr for tankier targets. My damage is consistently in the top 2 of my team. I did notice that my damage feels a lot lower if I'm not running alacrity and coup de grace though. I also find it a lot more fun than going crit or lethality and hoping to be able to get a oneshot before dying.
dusk don't works with Shaco Q, and it works on ability now. So Duskblade is useless execpt for the invis. The whole 20 % domage is useless on shaco. that's why actually it has 45 % winrate on shaco ^^ Gl /hf
Really sad how weak Shaco is, even when you're giga fed it seems it's never enough
Fr the amount of times i have 20+ kills and i need to outplay people with half or less kills than me is just sad
Plus you get one shot by everything regardless of how fed you are
i got a bunch of clips saved up of being around 15/0, gigafed, and still getting destroyed with 0 counter play by 0/10 enemy junglers like rengar, vi, kayn, khazix. It gets worse after 25 minutes, the early game is playable atleast.
AD shaco needs scaling lethality on his first Q hit maybe? Like 5base+5 each Point into Q. That way you get another Tool for the Missing Armor pen from items. Rengo has that on his ult Attack aswell ^^
@@jjoknjoThat’s how I felt playing him ever since mythic items. I used to play him all the time before that. Now I’ve barely ever touched him.
We missed you man
Also I dont know if anyone said this, but your editing is godlike! It is so much fun to watch your videos. Thank you for being there =)
I noticed that too, I really like how he shows the items when he talks about the build also the memes here and there are good addition
Absolute Most accurate shaco guide ever. I hate it when High elo players try to do guides on this champ meanwhile they played 10 times this champ.
Absolut perfect guide, for someone who OTP him since release.
TheClone posting = me happy
It's been a while, my friend! Glad you're back!
I loved the vid, I used to main Shaco but it's so hard for me to play him now with item change so I had to change, you gained a sub with the guide ^^ and I love your edit style too
Good choice. Stay away champion is garbage. I quit the game instead, much better.
I've been waiting for this return my whole life welcome back clone!
welcome back dude! happy to see you again
I missed you so much, so happy to see a video of yours again
Glad to see you're back ! Yeah shaco is definitely in a tough spot right now. You can have fun with him, but it gets harder to carry with him starting P3-D4.
Its what Chase said. Its too much effort to win with this trash champion. You have to communicate perfectly play perfect macro and execute everything mechanical perfectly and you still get something very close to 50% w/r. While a khazix or a rengar just rightclicks and presses combo after 2 kills+buy and oneshot everything.
I got into shaco cuz of u, seeing u upload again makes me very happy
long time not seen, happy you are back
love it!
the kogmaw runescape block got me
i was waiting for this whole year!! hes back
YOOO He's Back!!! I've been waiting for the longest to see one of your videos again.
you literally captured what i've been feeling
another banger after a long time, its nice to have you back lil bro
Best video ive seen in a while, as a main shaco otp playing in high diamond ive been testing a lot too, but i ended up changing my build every game... This is the video i was looking for man THANK U ! Also godlike edything❤
OMG YOU'RE BACK GLAD TOO SEE ANOTHER VIDEO ON THIS CHANNEL KEEP IT
CHECK OUT PATCH 13.14 - AD Shaco is Back 😮
Hey Clone, glad to see another video.
Infinity Edge is getting buffed next patch to from 35% to 45% extra crit damage.
Shaco is getting stronger hopefully.
Unf so does kha and rengar 😭🤣
So now rengar wil oneshot u with jst an auto
@@born2win416rengar has bad synergy with infinity. It only amplifies the non buffed auto attack part of q that's why it wasn't generally built even when it wasn't a mythic
Amazing video we miss you man great that you are back
No way, finally a new video, i was waiting for it! thank you boss
amazing video bro, keep doing a amazing job
Ayo, welcome back after such a long time. Imma try rageblade into tank
I missed you Bro, i missed the best shaco guide mains
finally a good honest shaco vid on youtube
I feel you bro as ad shaco i can stand 17/3/10 and still not oneshot adc's. I started to play ap shaco because the tank meta is too strong.
I just recently had a game going AD shaco and I dropped 35 kills killing the enemy with two autos. I just went duskblade essence reaver collector prowlers LDR and then sold boots for kraken slayer and I was doing insane dmg.
I have actually found success with believe or not phantom dancer first item after boots of course. Then infinity edge into essence and the rest is situational. I don't know why but the extra attack speed feels so good kills just come to you for free plus the objective control is amazing of course
Gonna try that
Probably because his burst isn't very good and he doesn't really have reliable DPS outside of autoattacks unless you build AP... and even then his boxes rely too much on prior setup and can be taken out pretty easily by anyone who's expecting them.
Aaah man, after 1 year I started thinking you'll never upload....thank you for retirning!!!
Good to see you again man nice one
ur editing made me wheeze, even if one of my champs kinda weak at least i laughed bout it
great video! subbed
current Shaco is like real life now, it's never enough😔
We we're waiting your comeback. ggreat video!
I take kraken first item into full crit it is insanely good imo since you already get crazy attack speed from kraken you can even take armor boots for survival try it out it's insane
i made my own build for shaco when kraken was still a mythic, i dont like it now though because it doesnt do that much
Kraken first in high wlo doesnt seem like a good idea
Bro i know its been tough to upload videos and keep on schedule, but you have the talent for entertainment and editing. So please don't leave again🥲
When I have to play jg I only play Graves or Shaco, I'm thrash at jg but at least I can be annoying with AP Shaco
great editing :)
That Essence Reaver nerf is a rengar specific nerf, you wont see much difference before you are approaching 400 AD, which he can because of passive
it is. Nonetheless losing 20% AD scaling on it, on a champion that basically only does basic attack damage is still a straight up 20% dmg nerf. Rushing it first item you won´t feel a big difference. At 2 and 3 items, which is the strongest phase in the game, you will definetly feel it on a champion that is allready extremly weak.
I remember the times you could actually snowball with shaco. Now any advantage you get is useless.
I was really looking forward to this video, man playing Shaco this season feels awful
What I've been doing early is stealing red by pathing all the way up (when on left side) going into the krugs pit and dropping a ward into the bush above their Red.
Then I go to the bush to the right of their red and drop boxes between red spawn area and the bushes I'm hiding in (I've gotten double kills when top rotates to help before doing this, because they don't know where you're dropping the ward from lol) until it's safe to walk out and take it.
Then I take my own blue and then I rush to take my own red, then either full clear or gank depending on what's available and you know you gota leave a ward at their red so you can see them cry about it lol.
Pls don't stop making videos i realy loved it!
nice tutorial bro!
The goat is back
I dont watch league videos but i watched this one ,dont stop posting
Love your Content keep Up the good Work.
It's been a year, now I must wait no longer... I've missed this content
BROOO YOUR BACK
finally a big youtuber that adressed the problem
in my experience it was like that before the item change too, but not as big
its aids that a caitlyn can W+AA+Q and im dead, as a marksman, its also aids that a MF can do AA+Q+AA in one second, and im missing 400HP, with level 3 and no lead
Holy fuck THE CLONE is back!!!!!!!!❤
Me, who hasn't ever played shaco before: ah yes interesting
Kinda pisses me off that you havent blown up more lets hope rito buffs a mechanic that makes shaco a nightmare (meaning more players try him hopefully leading them to your videos) coz honestly you deserve it far more than many other cheaper league channels all the best 👌
Since durability update, shaco is bad and with new item is horrible I dropped him !
I am happy to see the clone again !
0:46 Classic shaco moment
great video broo, shaco is buffed now, i hope a new video in your channel
I hit gm using eclipse, greaves, prowlers, bork, doms, and GA
YES YES I MISSED YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU
HES BACK
Welcome back
Thankfully in patch 13.14, riot confirmed that they will buff Shaco. Here are the changes.
Q bonus damage increased from 25-65 (plus 50 percent bonus attack damage) to 25-65 (plus 60 percent bonus attack damage).
Backstab crit bonus increased from 40 to 55 percent.
R bugfix: Now properly propagates Prowler’s Claw passive to clone.
Ohh, and they are nerfing Rangar.
Q crit conversion reduced from 95 to 75 percent.
Base health regeneration reduced from seven to six.
@@ace_blaze7685 Lmao "Base health regeneration reduced to 7 to 6". My man. That is a placebo nerf which is even worse than the legendary -5 MS on irelia. Makes no difference and even if it did, the 4 item nerfs in addition toi beeing nerfed in the last 4/5 patches should be enough for most if not all non-otp´s.
I'm that kind of guy who build full damage/lethality and my shaco actually feel decent. My build is Berserk into Reaver or IE or Collector(depend of how fed you are) and a BT
Ur finally back 😭
I dropped shaco since durability update, and u stated the obvious splitting is the way
So what i did i just played full on splitting champs.
Why on earth would i play a champ full damage while i can't oneshot, i can play a tank and he will tickle me.
Hi, I'm on Emerald 2 rank on the PH server with few games and have started maining Shaco. I want to share my gameplay, or if possible I would like you to watch my games live (?).
My runes are, HOB > Sudden impact > Eyeball > Treasure Hunter> Free Boots and Cosmic Insight. I chose free boots for saving 300 gold and cosmic insight always makes my smite and ignite ready to go. My most common itemization is Eclipse (Since the clone can proc it as well), Collector or Claw then LDR, and finally, BRK. I'm also going to test out if BRK can be a 2nd item for my set up.
Hey, if you wish that I coach you, dm me on Discord 💪💪 at: theclone
what do u think about going dark seal early on ad shaco just for the extra dmg?
Or just play Liandry's + Demonic x)
the buff came!
HE IS< HE"S HERE!
thy you saved my lp !
That's why i go on hit lethal tempo shaco, perfect for jg invade, ganking, solo objectives and early to mid 1v1's (even against tanks!). However it doesn't carry much potential for solo carry but most of the time ur team will clean up the enemy with the objective buffs.
Which Mythic do you Go then?
@@MrBlackGamer100 Before it was kraken but since it isnt a mythic, i just go with infinity edge or dusk works well as a 2nd or 3rd build
Damn thats depressing. Not shadow being "weak" of course, just the fact that jungler players really say they're underpowered when it takes more than 1 basic attack to one shot somebody...league balance is the most fucked up compared to every other moba.
For me was the turning Point when They Released the durability Patch
Before item changes I consistently dropped 20 bombs in each game. Now I get one shot by amumus and chunked by nautilus. I'm pretty sure I had a 60%+ WR on shaco. The first game I played after changes, I was disgusted. Duskblade didn't do burst, it lost invis, I couldn't pair with IE, and I just kept getting destroyed by adcs. I played everything perfectly as I used to, yet I kind of understand why shaco is weaker( not as weak as this shit). From the outside perspective, shaco is totally unfair, you would pop into existence and oneshot every player, but I don't think making him a spooky cannon minion is gonna be a good solution. Riot got lazy when nerfing shaco and ended up completely gutting him.
Ah yes. A new league edit guide video by Mike The Clone.
I've been trying this build and it feels good to do damage lol. I'm using nothing else from now on, IE enjoyers.
What about stridebreaker bork? Ive been having good success with it.
This is why ap shaco is the way to go especially in high elo ad is just trash currently past 15 minutes in game
i love that's not just me that have that though, i stopped playing shaco ad because of that, i usually like to play ap because i think its funnier playing with the box placement and the the clone death dmg, and i was done that late game i couldnt 1shot people, and if i manage to kill 1 guy i was dead right after, while the enemy could just1 shot me and run away, i think they dont make shaco more op with buffs is because he is alredy an annoying champ, but i also feel like everytime shaco gets strong he is nerfed right after, while i see the same 3 jgl over 4 patches, its kinda sad that my main, for over 6 years, cant be strong, i play with him still, but because i love his mechanics and i have fun with that, not because i want to win games and rank up, its like my confort champ
What about AP. Will the magic clone return?
I do that first blood like for a year now works 85% of the time
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4:43 alex velea the goat
As an AP Shaco player, I was celebrating how weak AD Shaco has gotten, but after seeing this video, even I agree that y'all need a nerf.
idk if u remember me or not but i stopped playing shaco bcs idk if u noticed that or not but it feels like shaco getting nerfed without riot telling us like his W takes more time to activate now i can easily die in my R yea it happenes if i take damage over time like ignite etc but like not everything can kill me while ulting i have been playing shaco since i started playing this game 2016 and i can know if something changed or not and theres some changed beside the items did u feel something weird with shaco ult and W? and i love u bruv keep it up
Shaco being week is a healthy thing for the game.
fair opinion, shaco being viable and annoying would make him become hated even more and perma banned but I still believe that he deserves a minor buff because of how unplayable he is rn
I miss old Duskblade so much
I am a 2.5mil shaco otp, peak masters, currently sitting in d3-d2, I don't ever dare to build ad, I play the ap version of it (I dislike it compared to the old ad version) But ad shaco just isn't what it used to be, and what I mean by that is, 1) no more one shotting the adc (they will always be able to react), 2) all of the videos you posted you are fed, there are champions with perfect farm that one shot the adc with 0/0/0. Shaco is this nerfed because of one tricks on it. I hate its state and I dont play it.
I think split and objectives are def the way. Even with Rek'sai I can't burst down carries without the support basically 1v8
tank shaco is the best, Bork, attakspeedboots, sunfire, hearthsteel, wits end, Thornmail / Natur or Hydra at last.
Since watching this video I started playing a lot more ranked to try to Speedrun before the split end and I found stridebreaker bork ldr to be working really well. I basically play for neutrals as much as I can and try to have my team out value the enemy. Using heralds and baron to secure soul and elders if the game goes that far. I also found what you said about splitting really helpful. Since I started focusing on objectives and towers my cs went from about 6 to 8 per minute average, and I consistently end up top 2 on the damage dealt stat. Thoughts on this playstyle?
I used that build to get to p1 this season but its boring and you can't carry a game. You are practically a utility champion. You have very little damage even when too far ahead.
@@Antixandros I found the opposite to be true. I'm able to actually burst and kill most squishies very consistently, especially since it's so hard to kite me when I have stride +bork proc, plus I also have enough DPS with bork + ldr for tankier targets. My damage is consistently in the top 2 of my team. I did notice that my damage feels a lot lower if I'm not running alacrity and coup de grace though. I also find it a lot more fun than going crit or lethality and hoping to be able to get a oneshot before dying.
@@sagitswag1785 good for you then. What elo are you playing in?
1.Riot "ballance team" 2.Q Ability (Champ design) 3.Skins sales/player Base shaco enjoyers 4.Crying adc 5.Shaco NERF X)
I've found that navori is very good just to be able to get my q and e back up faster
have you tried hybrid shaco?
I personally dont like IE on Shaco at all. I pref dusk for the invis, saved me countless times
dusk don't works with Shaco Q, and it works on ability now. So Duskblade is useless execpt for the invis. The whole 20 % domage is useless on shaco. that's why actually it has 45 % winrate on shaco ^^
Gl /hf
Now I just build ap and spam Shaco boxes, usually works...
and even when it works I might get reported for building AP.
:)
TBF rengar is just broken, so not a good comparison.
What about AP shaco?