I had an epidural so no pain, but he got stuck behind my pelvic bone, and no matter the birthing position and pushing he eefused to come out, so forceps were nneeded Can you demonstrate something like that when you have time, please?
@@eclaire58 i was able to. The epidural only worked about 50%, which I actually liked because I could feel when I was contracting and could move my legs really well
Just to let you know in the side effects listed on an epidural, it mentioned forceps needing to be used as a result of phase 2 delivery being altered by epidural.
My baby was OA for MONTHS, until I was actually in labor. Little dude spun himself around to OP and I had to do inversions, baby sifting, etc. to get him to flip back over. It worked and he came out OA but it was very very frustrating having to be put into uncomfortable positions just to get him in the right position
That’s always horrible to reasonably expect one thing and another happen… I couldn’t imagine that with birth!! Also I’ve never heard of the term baby sifting before and I must say it gave me a giggle imagining an infant sifting flour
@@mariesmith9508 Haha, baby sifting is also known as ribozo. It's where the mom is on hands and knees and someone stands over her and uses a blanket to gently shake her belly side to side to encourage the baby to flip over
Can only speak for myself, but I didn't feel the baby coming out of 'the hole' so to speak. Just felt numb. The real pain is in the abdomen. Have you ever had a nasty cramp in your calf muscle? A really bad one, in the middle of the night for no reason? It feels like that, but in your entire abdomen/stomach. Horrifyingly painful.
10 hours in labor and had horrible back pain the whole time, and with no meds. I was trying so hard to do it without meds naturally. Then I had to get an emergency c-section due to complications with me and baby. Happened the same with both my kids. Now when I get brain freeze, I get it in my back like contractions. It's horrible. My husband has to rub my back to warm it up and make it go away. But it was worth all the pain. I love my babies.
I wanted to go natural but the back labor was extremely intense and so I gave up and went with the epidural. 10/10 recommend for me aha. I began having contractions at 1 am so I got to sleep. Hallelujah!
Same thing happened to me, I was planning natural my whole pregnancy and then went through hours of back labor, got to 5cm and got the epidural, then slept and woke up to push, I loved the epidural 😂😂 the needle felt like a mosquito bite compared to contractions
Same, went through 25 hours of back labor after only making it to barely 3cm so I got the epidural, labor ended up being 35 hours long total. Don’t know why dilation was so slow or why I had back labor😭
My doctor was an asswhole and even though I was completely UNMEDICATED he wouldn't let me push in a position that was comfortable for me because he was too tall and "needed" the table to be too high up. My little one qas OA, so that helped, but I'm now experiencing prolapse with my first
All my four of my babies were OP, averaging 9+ lbs. each. All I remember is the back pain, and it felt as though they wanted to exit through my spine. No epidurals available to me in the 80’s. My husband rubbed my back so hard and for so many hours each time, that after delivery my back was a bruised mess. The nurses never showed him the proper way. However, we all survived and got some great kids.
I had a 9 lb baby and back labor too! I had gotten an epidural but those don't affect back labor, so I couldn't even move into a more comfortable position. It was awful. Baby is so worth it though.
i was in labor for 48 hours with back labor and it was the worst pain ive ever felt in my whole life! im so glad to have my baby though, he was worth it ♡
OMG this explains why my second child’s birth was HORRENDOUS! contractions felt like they were back to back and the PAINNNNNN in my back and midsection felt like getting torn apart by a chainsaw. He scarred me after his birth 😂 not enough to have a third and now pregnant with number 4…what is wrong with me!? 😂😭
Yes!! The back pain was too real, of course my Baby was in OP position and no one attempted to get me on all 4's, massage my back or anything. Doc declared an emergency c section due to impatience 🙄 I know better now
My baby was facing frontside . We came to know in 32 weeks scan. I was super worried but my doctor didn’t think it was complicated at all, she said give it sometime baby might turn around itself. Boom suddenly my water broken by 37 weeks and my baby was still facing frontside. Then they induced me since I haven’t gone into labour. All of sudden baby turned around itself to facing backwards and everything went smooth. All mommy who’s worried. Please give baby its time and chance. They might turn around themselves, meanwhile you can try few exercises as Tina shows.
@ I did curbside walking ( one leg on curb and one leg on the road ) but I don’t think it helped me because I was 0% dilated. I did 5 days of curbside walking.
My baby was in the right orientation but was presenting face first so my contractions weren't getting her out. The doc pushed her back in so he could ease the crown of her head to come first. I still needed an episiotomy but I only pushed 4 hours. Unfortunately, this gave her an undiagnosed birth injury of a twisted and cocked atlas. As a baby and toddler she almost exclusivey used her right hand. She rarely even used her left hand as a helper hand. She was also a one legged crawler but I don't know if that is significant. When she was about 4, she was big enough to close the car door herself but, rather than using her left hand, she would reach across her body with her right hand to lean and pull the car door closed. I found that troubling. Then a chiropractor who specialized in the atlas came to speak at my business club. I asked if he thought this might be a chiropractic issue. He thought it might be so I brought her. The exrays showed it was misaligned both by rotation to one side and tipped off level. It only took one treatment to correct this and suddenly she was using her left arm. At 27 (her bd is today😊), her right is still dominant but she uses her left normally.
@caffeinatedpossum I don't blame the doctor as he corrected baby's awkward face first presentation. I kept pushing and wasn't really getting anywhere. I just wish I would have known that coming face first could have altered the neck's alignment. I could have had the adjustment done at an earlier age. And it's like: of course the neck would be affected! Why didn't this occur t me?
That's great, but I'm thankful you lucked out with a chiropractor who seemed to know what he's doing. The practice isn't rooted in evidence-based science, and some chiropractors (too many in fact) do a lot more harm than good because they're simply not qualified and monitored the same way medical doctors are.
My baby wasn't sunnyside up, but that back labor was no joke! I did get relief from counterpressure though. My mom and husband were pushing on my low back and squeezing my hips for hours 😂 they were champs
They gave me an epidural. I couldn’t lay in any position except flat on my back because my O2 would drop and my son’s heartbeat would plummet. Then they decided I didn’t need epidural so they shut it off and after 5 hours of excruciating pain, no progress, on oxygen, me pleading with them that I literally can’t do this and I feel like I’m dying … they turned it back on. He was out not 10 minutes later. Then had the nerve to say “idk where she found the strength to push”. Maybe because I was able to focus instead of screaming for hours, Megan. My son came out dark blue and purple and had to be taken away from me. I never want another kid cause I ain’t doing that shit again
@@michellewilliams761yeah. My fiancé himself was traumatized watching me go through that and told me he doesn’t want more kids because he can’t watch me go through that again. Hell even the anesthesiologist told them they’d regret this and she will be back because I’m not going to be able to handle the pain. She was right ! Everytime I get a slight crap in my uterus, I panic because it just reminds me of labor. My mom friend was like yeah no, they treated you poorly and that’s not normal. It was Jackson TN hospital. Fuck that place
I was feet first and my twin brother was sideways. I have a scar on my ankle from my mom's C-section (and glad it wasn't my face!) Women are so incredible any way they give birth! Definitely not for me
Wow how intense. What an interesting scar to carry with you for your entire life. I bet your little infant brain was shocked to come into the world that way 💙
Both my brother and I were OP babies. I came out with a cone head and bruises all over because the doctor wouldn't even try to turn me and barely breathing at all. My mom says it's a miracle that I didn't get brain damage from the trauma and lack of oxygen. My brother had his umbilical cord wrapped around his shoulder, and every time our mom had a contraction, his vitals would drop. The doctor for his birth managed to get him turned and unwrap the umbilical cord and he turned out perfectly fine.
Delivered my second baby on all fours 3 months ago and let me tell you, A WORLD of difference! No tearing, I could "J" breathe him down, no coached pushing, had my nitrous mask in one hand and could take a puff when the contractions were on top of each other at the end. The nurses said I'm welcome to come deliver a baby every year with them 😂
Dad came out and the doctors thought he was going to need surgery because his baby arms were out of sockets, his thumbs were out of socket, and he was crying(like all children do) Anyway, arms and thumbs immediately popped back into place. Double jointed Houdini baby
They tried having me get on hands n knees when i was in labor...it was so painful just getting in that position that i was stuck and needed help turning back around onto my back on the bed.
I had massively bad back labor with my oldest. He was sunny side up and no change of position helped it. The doctors couldn't get him to flip and for some reason, I stopped dilating at an 8. Then, on top of it all, when I would have contractions later in my labor, his heart rate would drop. Ended up having to do an unplanned cesarean to get him out safely.
My sister had her first baby in breach. It was agonising, and I, as a 16 year old edgy kid, shockingly showed compassion for once, as it was agonising so basically I did everything for her while we were waiting at home for her husband to get there to take her to hospital from base (he's in the Airforce) about an hour away from our house.
My 16 year old was face up and had back pain and ended up with c section after pushing for 2.5 hours. I gave up because they made me lay down to birth.
I literally cannot bear the pain of contractions lying down. I have to stand in a slight squat, and then it's pretty easy. I learned not to birth with a doctor after my first birth because they don't listen to mothers OR science.
@@jacklenrandall6456 for me it's literally just my back. I can feel tightening in the front but if there is any pain it's totally eclipsed by the pain in my back.
Luckily I had an epidural because my baby was sunny side up and the attending asked if she could reach inside me and turn her over and I said sure ( I didn't really feel it). Then my baby flipped back and she asked if she could do it again, she sure it would work this time and it did. But omg my husband saw the blood oozing out while she was in there turning things around. Bless him😅
I had both babies natural and without epidurals. I had back pain with my daughter and leg and stomach pain with my second. I also went numb once they crowned, both times!! I feel perineal massage helped me not tear, being positive about the entire situation, and feeling the pain helped me have fast labors. ♡♡
I was told my first was Sunnyside up, but I had nothing to compare to. Considering she was transverse at the beginning of labor. I carried all 3 sideways. #2 only had her umbilical cord presenting, so C-section. #3 sideways, gestational diabetes, rolled on his cord only 14 months after sister, so also Csection
I had one of my three in the op position. Dear God, was the worst ever back labor with absolutely no space between contractions. Was awful. Bonus though, he was a fast labor. 5.5 hours from start too finish. But, he did have some issues with breathing and heart rates not going down to normal for over 24 hours. But he's happy and healthy now, and that's all that I ever wanted.
My second son was breached. I went into premature labor 3 weeks before my scheduled c section at 39 weeks. The contractions were inconsistent with time and intensity but I hadn't felt that pain since giving birth to my first. I know false contractions, I had them every day for 11 weeks with my first. Since there was no consistency I tried treating it like false contractions... for 13 hours straight a contraction with any spacing between 5 minutes to 24 minutes. With any pain level between early labor contractions to screaming curse words while I pee myself in pain. Call the doctor and they told me it's just false contractions. Just drink some water and relax. Like I hadn't done that in the past 13 hours? I even fell asleep and woke up with the same contractions. I kept getting told I wasn't in labor if there was no consistency. However after 13 hours I'm going to the doctor. Sure enough I was in labor and the fact he was breached made the contractions inconsistent. The doctor at the hospital, knew that but my doctor didn't. (I have more issues with that ich and already made it clear she wasn't allowed to even be in my delivery room) I also had other pregnancy issues that I medically could not have this baby at home even if he was head down. Can you talk about that too. Because I felt really ignored while I was actively in labor and I feel the breached baby mamas need to know more.
I had a sunny side up. Doctors tried all types of positions and exercises she just wouldn’t turn. When baby came out that tore me and bruised up my butt and back real bad. I had to do physical therapy for 4 months post delivery I couldn’t walk. Pregnancy and delivery is no joke. But best thing is she came out so sweet , healthy and beautiful, she is now turning for and I had 1 more after her much easier delivery and one on the way due soon.
My kids didn't turn around TWICE! My water broke, and I was induced with my first. I had back labor, so I had an epidural and there was no option to get up. The baby broke my tailbone with her skull. The baby became distressed and I was rushed to surgery for C-section #1. It was awful. I think it was the combination of the drugs, and being tired from pushing for a few hours, and a brand new baby doc working with an old doctor that ruined it for me. I had issues after the surgery with adhesions, dryness, and pain. Cough "wrong" and feel something pull or rip inside. Owww. C-section #2 was scheduled, because baby wouldn't go head down. Poor thing was a whole 2" taller than their older sibling! My dreams of a VBAC were gone, but the surgery was much better. I chose a great surgeon the second time. The surgery was executed beautifully and he repaired the adhesions. He brought #2 into the world feet first, and all my other problems went away too!
I had back labor with my 1st and currently only baby. I was told whilst I was pregnant we were back to back and to watch out for back labor. Luckily he was a perfect sport and labor went as well as labor could go and he came out almost no issues except an older midwife helped adjust his position as I was pushing 😳
Yep just when I start saying hmm i want a 3rd.. yall ladies noped me right out of that one. My backs hurting like hell rn just reading theae comments and thinking about the pain
As soon as my first real contraction hit I knew something wasn’t “right”. The pain in my back was horrific and I found myself crawling down my parents hallway on all 4’s. Elongating my back seemed to help a little bit and so did rocking on all 4’s. She was my first baby and only one I had back labor with, thank goodness!!
Had two OP, two OA. In some ways OP was easier for the contractions - call me crazy, but my OA were way more intense and my husband couldn't apply pressure anywhere that helped. The pushing though. Ugh. They got out, but it was a battle. The OA just seemed to slide straight out compared to the OP babies.
My 2nd did this she was 22 1/2 in & 9 lbs 8.6 oz. and I ended up breaking 2 vertebrae and 2 ribs during delivery. I HAD ANOTHER BABY 20 months later so it didn’t stop be. Worth every second of it.
My youngest sister (3rd child) was in optimal position. Then, 30 minutes later, as my moms water broke, she was feet down and coming f a s t. Mom had to get a c-section. 😅 sis has been a hellion since she was in the womb, lmfaooooo
I knew all fours was the position for me before I was even pregnant!! I was so baffled when 45 minutes of pushing that way didn’t move him a centimeter and I ended up on my back anyway 😢 but I feel better after seeing this! That had to be what got him from sunny side up to butt sniffing after HOURS of maneuvering
Had that with my 9.1 lbs son. I was doing just fine with my labor and all natural birth then stopped at 7 cm until I naturally produced my own pitocin (nipple stimulation). Then the back labor started and was like I was having contractions every minute. They wanted me to get on my hands and knees but I didn’t have enough of a break from contractions. He came out fine and I was relieved.
Yes, very painful back labour. I was trying to suck in that gas to relieve pain but would get quite nauseous so would gasp for fresh air. At this point my husband informed me that I could use a teeth brushing 😶... My son was OP position and almost 10 lbs... 😩... he also had the umbilical cord wrapped around his neck so was very stressful labour. He was born a deep purple and I thought he was stillborn until his Moro reflex let me know that he was alive. At this point, my husband told me that he was a boy.
My son, who is my oldest, he came through in the ideal position. Labor was about 17 hours, but relatively uncomplicated aside from a last minute episiotomy, and my epidural coming out of my back and wearing off right around push time… making it too late for a bolus. Similarly, my pregnancy with him was pretty normal, he was pretty mellow. To this day, his personality is very much the same as I guess. I imagined it when I was pregnant with him. My daughter, who is slightly less than a year and a half younger than him, was a stargazer. Despite trying to physically manipulate my very pregnant belly to get her to turn around when I was in early labor, she stubbornly refused to assume the proper position. My labor with her was 27 hours and absolutely horrendous. Towards the end, they were debating as to whether or not to rush me into surgery for a C-section because she was starting to show signs of distress and I was exhausted. My epidural came out right around push time again with her, also. So, I basically had to raw dog the pain yet again. But her delivery was much, much more difficult and painful. She also was a wild child throughout my pregnancy as well. Nonstop kicker and wiggle worm. At the end of the day, she showed up on her timeframe, her schedule. Natural delivery, and peroneal tearing this time. And just like with her brother, her personality as I know it now, was very much reflected in terms of how my pregnancy and my delivery of her went. 😂 she is my spicy one.
'Occiput' is the back of their head. So when the back of their head is facing the spine/back of the womb, it's the 'back of the head, back of the womb' or occiput posterior. If it's facing the front, it's the anterior. If the head is the presenting part (lowest part of the baby in the pelvis, the part that would be born first) then it's usually the vertex they talk about (the top of the head). It's confusing.
The girls in my family were all born Sunnyside up. The boys were normal. My daughter was not just Sunnyside up but she also had the cord wrapped around her neck. I went into labor on Halloween. Took my son trick-or-treating. When to the hospital afterwards and the Dr was so sure I'd have her that night. The contractions got down to about 5 minutes apart and then stopped. She didn't come out until 3 weeks after that. My daughter was 3 weeks late and my son was a week early. They are both very small though. They were 6 lb 10 oz and 6 lb 11 oz.
Oldest was OP, the other 2 were OA. As a nurse in also found that OP labors do like hands and knees or kneeling on the bed with the foot portion lowered and the they rest their elbows on the "seat" part of the bed. Even have had them deliver in that position!😊
Posterior for my 1st baby. It was horrific back pain. The giving birth part was not as bad. Got 3rd degree tear. I have 5 kids now. Each birth and pregnancy is different. ❤
I had unmedicated births for both my sons. I had mild back labour with my first however he was OA and the birth was very smooth and orogressed well. But my second was OP and my gosh labour and birth was SO MUCH MORE INTEEEEEENSE! It was absolutely crazy. Was also a homebirth! Lol
Yes! I had back labor and was unable to dilate. They did not believe I was in labor until I eventually had an emergency C-section. I’m pregnant with my second now and know how to advocate for myself better.
First time mum this past August 🥰 My baby came out sideways (imagine when she was coming out she was facing my inner thigh). 31 hours of labour, had to have my waters broken, episiotomy and a tear. Only gas and air. I begged for that epidural but never got one. I had all back pain during my labour didn’t feel anything in my abdomen. According to my doctor the reason I laboured for 31 hours was because she wasn’t sitting on my cervix correctly so my cervix wasn’t dilating how it was supposed to. I was 2cm for 24 of those hours.
My first was posterior born. My epidural blocked (thanks to some stupid midwives) i was supposed to have an emergency cesarean hours beforehand, i could only be on my back because her heartrate plummeted on all fours and i hemorrhaged BADLY. Definitely the worst labour out of my 3, and i still remember the pain in my back from her spine on mine. Worth it to have her, but definitely did SUCK.
I had an OP sunnyside up little boy. 32 week gestation and doc was shook that not only was I an 18 year old in 8 week preterm labor with ruptured waters but my little dude came out OP with a 32 cm head diameter (average diameter for a full term neonate is 33-37 average diameter for a 32 week fetus is 27)I sunnyside birthed a practically full term head 🙃 he was an odd looking preemie with that big ole noggin he was 3lbs 12 and I’m confident most of it was his head LOL he’s a happy healthy 1st grader who will be 7 in just 26 days. Yes his head is still huge 95th percentile no discernible abnormality just half a tad over a quarter Irish apparently
My baby was sunny side up. The back labour suuuuuuuucked and the hospital didn't do birth plans. They had what they deemed best practice, on your back, legs up. I kept trying to tell them on all fours was most comfortable for me but they kept making me lay down. Needless to say, I jumped at the epidural once I figured they'd make me stay on my back the whole time lmbo
Sunny side up 9 pound 6 oz baby with a head measuring in the 99th percentile. Haha. Back pain so bad i threw up multiple times, epidurals didnt work for the pain, just worked from my hips down. Had to have an emergency c-section after over 24 hours of labor and only getting to 4 cm. Then i felt my c section. Lol. Had to put me all the way under.
My first was face up and I didn’t have back labor. My second was facing my back like she should and I DID have back labor. So, I would imagine there are other reasons for back labor as well, and that what is said here to cause it, does not ALWAYS cause back labor. Just a heads up. Hope all the mamas out there have a safe and happy labor/delivery.
First was OP and had her left arm up 😅 thank goodness for the epidural, got that bad boy early on and it was a lifesaver. Especially when doctor had to manually extract the placenta. Second baby was completely the opposite, and birth went smoothly.
My baby was sunnyside, I didn’t care about me but I was so concerned for her because she came out bruised, happy to report three months later and she’s healthy smart and strong. No signs of anything that happened to her during birth ☺️
I had back labor with my first. Counter pressure on my spine during contractions was the only way I got relief. Seemed to have regular labor with my second, the pressure around the stomach felt completely different. Can't recommend either lol.
Despite having an epidural, it did not TOUCH any of the pain of my back labor. Lying down and in too much pain/too weak to do hands and knees like I had wanted to. Ended up needing the vacuum and an episiotomy, but glad it was offered or it likely would have been a C-section. Worst pain of my life honestly.
My daughters, all 3, pushed their babies out like nothing. No real pain, no struggle, easy breezy for them. I, however, had awful awful labors. One with zero pain medication, not even a tylenol. One was in the OP position. Labor was traumatizing for me with the amount of pain. ( my oldest daughters 3rd baby tho, almost killed her and baby Noah, extremely high risk, grave labor😢)
Just had my baby 3 days ago, and she was in the OP position. The back pain was like nothing I've ever experienced. I got an epidural, and it helped so much. After hours of pushing, the doctor used a suction device to finally get her out.
My second was sunny side up. I honestly thought my back's gonna burst. Not break, explode. I kept saying that something seems wrong and got an epidural. Good decision as we needed the suction cup in the end to get him out. My midwife then told me that he was a ss baby and I was like 'right, all makes sense now". A pain I'll never forget, that's for sure😮
I had my oldest son that way. I had back labor it was so not fun! My other two child came out the right way and my labor wasn’t so back. But I will always remember the back labor!
I'm a mom of 4 and 2 of them were back births, in Germany we call them "Sternegucker" which roughly means "star gazer". The "easistest" birth I had on all fours, the hardest was laying on the left side. The contractions were horrible and I felt like I was unable to push properly. Though, the midwife afterwards assured me that there was a lot of power behind me pushing, it just didn't felt like it for me.
You know what, I don't remember them telling me which way he came out, however I was in intense back labor for hours and had not one but 2 epidural. Best day of my life, my 9.13 lb little man was perfect, and my doctor was able to do pernial massage for the entire long amount of hours along with a lot of preparation from me in the form of birthing classes and strengthening my pelvic floor, I had only minor level 1 tears
I had an epidural so no pain, but he got stuck behind my pelvic bone, and no matter the birthing position and pushing he eefused to come out, so forceps were nneeded Can you demonstrate something like that when you have time, please?
Something happened to me. My ob decided to do a vacuum instead of forceps.
Were you able to push on all fours?
That sounds terrifying 😭
@@eclaire58 i was able to. The epidural only worked about 50%, which I actually liked because I could feel when I was contracting and could move my legs really well
Just to let you know in the side effects listed on an epidural, it mentioned forceps needing to be used as a result of phase 2 delivery being altered by epidural.
My baby was OA for MONTHS, until I was actually in labor. Little dude spun himself around to OP and I had to do inversions, baby sifting, etc. to get him to flip back over. It worked and he came out OA but it was very very frustrating having to be put into uncomfortable positions just to get him in the right position
Good job!
How did they check and find out during labor?
@@winter7645 The midwife felt my belly and could feel his limbs poking me and if he had his back to my belly you wouldn't be able to feel that
That’s always horrible to reasonably expect one thing and another happen… I couldn’t imagine that with birth!! Also I’ve never heard of the term baby sifting before and I must say it gave me a giggle imagining an infant sifting flour
@@mariesmith9508 Haha, baby sifting is also known as ribozo. It's where the mom is on hands and knees and someone stands over her and uses a blanket to gently shake her belly side to side to encourage the baby to flip over
As a 14 year old boy i definitely needed to know this. God DAMN I feel bad for women that must be really painful
Can only speak for myself, but I didn't feel the baby coming out of 'the hole' so to speak. Just felt numb. The real pain is in the abdomen. Have you ever had a nasty cramp in your calf muscle? A really bad one, in the middle of the night for no reason? It feels like that, but in your entire abdomen/stomach. Horrifyingly painful.
@ Oooh okay
As someone who had a sunnyside baby without medication I got chills watching this. The pain was terrible!
Wow so much respect to you, I got to 5cm with back labor and had to tap out, the pain was horrible
I'm in that club, first baby and unmedicated too. Surprised I had another tbh 😂
That was me with my first baby (sunnysided). 19 hours of labor and 4 hours pushing! No medication. Never felt so much pain before.
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10 hours in labor and had horrible back pain the whole time, and with no meds. I was trying so hard to do it without meds naturally. Then I had to get an emergency c-section due to complications with me and baby. Happened the same with both my kids. Now when I get brain freeze, I get it in my back like contractions. It's horrible. My husband has to rub my back to warm it up and make it go away. But it was worth all the pain. I love my babies.
I wanted to go natural but the back labor was extremely intense and so I gave up and went with the epidural. 10/10 recommend for me aha. I began having contractions at 1 am so I got to sleep. Hallelujah!
Same thing happened to me, I was planning natural my whole pregnancy and then went through hours of back labor, got to 5cm and got the epidural, then slept and woke up to push, I loved the epidural 😂😂 the needle felt like a mosquito bite compared to contractions
Same, went through 25 hours of back labor after only making it to barely 3cm so I got the epidural, labor ended up being 35 hours long total. Don’t know why dilation was so slow or why I had back labor😭
My doctor was an asswhole and even though I was completely UNMEDICATED he wouldn't let me push in a position that was comfortable for me because he was too tall and "needed" the table to be too high up. My little one qas OA, so that helped, but I'm now experiencing prolapse with my first
Ugh! I would have fired that doctor so fast!
That's why i went with nurse midwives for my 2nd, 3rd, and my 4th (due next week). I learned from my 1st awful experience with an AH doctor.
You are well within your rights to tell a doctor to shove it.
@@kitturtle6629 ESPECIALLY when giving birth!! your body is literally being torn open!
the comfort is meant to be for you, not the damn doctor.. crazy
"If your cutie's behaving themselves" 😂😂 why was that so funny to me?
All my four of my babies were OP, averaging 9+ lbs. each. All I remember is the back pain, and it felt as though they wanted to exit through my spine. No epidurals available to me in the 80’s.
My husband rubbed my back so hard and for so many hours each time, that after delivery my back was a bruised mess. The nurses never showed him the proper way. However, we all survived and got some great kids.
aw i’m so sorry you went through that pain but i’m glad everything turned out okay ❤
@@futurexoxoo1431 That’s kind of you to say. 😊
Ugh the back pain aftcoulabor from those counter pressure rubs
God bless you 🙏
I had a 9 lb baby and back labor too! I had gotten an epidural but those don't affect back labor, so I couldn't even move into a more comfortable position. It was awful. Baby is so worth it though.
In Germany these Bays are called " Sternengucker"..." stargazer" because they look up to the stars. ❤
i was in labor for 48 hours with back labor and it was the worst pain ive ever felt in my whole life! im so glad to have my baby though, he was worth it ♡
OMG this explains why my second child’s birth was HORRENDOUS! contractions felt like they were back to back and the PAINNNNNN in my back and midsection felt like getting torn apart by a chainsaw. He scarred me after his birth 😂 not enough to have a third and now pregnant with number 4…what is wrong with me!? 😂😭
Yes!! The back pain was too real, of course my Baby was in OP position and no one attempted to get me on all 4's, massage my back or anything. Doc declared an emergency c section due to impatience 🙄 I know better now
My baby was facing frontside . We came to know in 32 weeks scan. I was super worried but my doctor didn’t think it was complicated at all, she said give it sometime baby might turn around itself. Boom suddenly my water broken by 37 weeks and my baby was still facing frontside. Then they induced me since I haven’t gone into labour. All of sudden baby turned around itself to facing backwards and everything went smooth.
All mommy who’s worried. Please give baby its time and chance. They might turn around themselves, meanwhile you can try few exercises as Tina shows.
What did you do to have labor early?
@ I did curbside walking ( one leg on curb and one leg on the road ) but I don’t think it helped me because I was 0% dilated. I did 5 days of curbside walking.
My baby was in the right orientation but was presenting face first so my contractions weren't getting her out. The doc pushed her back in so he could ease the crown of her head to come first. I still needed an episiotomy but I only pushed 4 hours. Unfortunately, this gave her an undiagnosed birth injury of a twisted and cocked atlas. As a baby and toddler she almost exclusivey used her right hand. She rarely even used her left hand as a helper hand. She was also a one legged crawler but I don't know if that is significant. When she was about 4, she was big enough to close the car door herself but, rather than using her left hand, she would reach across her body with her right hand to lean and pull the car door closed. I found that troubling. Then a chiropractor who specialized in the atlas came to speak at my business club. I asked if he thought this might be a chiropractic issue. He thought it might be so I brought her. The exrays showed it was misaligned both by rotation to one side and tipped off level. It only took one treatment to correct this and suddenly she was using her left arm. At 27 (her bd is today😊), her right is still dominant but she uses her left normally.
And to think the doctor who delivered her probably has no clue they caused a significant injury to your child, even if it was ultimately fixed
@caffeinatedpossum I don't blame the doctor as he corrected baby's awkward face first presentation. I kept pushing and wasn't really getting anywhere. I just wish I would have known that coming face first could have altered the neck's alignment. I could have had the adjustment done at an earlier age. And it's like: of course the neck would be affected! Why didn't this occur t me?
That's great, but I'm thankful you lucked out with a chiropractor who seemed to know what he's doing. The practice isn't rooted in evidence-based science, and some chiropractors (too many in fact) do a lot more harm than good because they're simply not qualified and monitored the same way medical doctors are.
God bless you and your daughter and that chiropractor!!!!!
My baby wasn't sunnyside up, but that back labor was no joke! I did get relief from counterpressure though. My mom and husband were pushing on my low back and squeezing my hips for hours 😂 they were champs
That pressure did help but my husband stopped and said he was tired. I screamed I don't give a ... Just keep going. I still haven't forgiven that
@vtheb1299 wow, i would be so disappointed! I definitely had a grudge against him 🤣🤦🏼♀️
@@vtheb1299 you're kinder than I would have been lol.
I had huge hip bruises with #3 😂
Same. All 5 of my births. My husband knows "the spot" where to apply counter pressure. I always chalked it up to having a retrograde uterus.
They gave me an epidural. I couldn’t lay in any position except flat on my back because my O2 would drop and my son’s heartbeat would plummet. Then they decided I didn’t need epidural so they shut it off and after 5 hours of excruciating pain, no progress, on oxygen, me pleading with them that I literally can’t do this and I feel like I’m dying … they turned it back on. He was out not 10 minutes later. Then had the nerve to say “idk where she found the strength to push”. Maybe because I was able to focus instead of screaming for hours, Megan. My son came out dark blue and purple and had to be taken away from me. I never want another kid cause I ain’t doing that shit again
Sounds cruel 😮
Shame on them, that's malpractice! 😕
@@michellewilliams761yeah. My fiancé himself was traumatized watching me go through that and told me he doesn’t want more kids because he can’t watch me go through that again. Hell even the anesthesiologist told them they’d regret this and she will be back because I’m not going to be able to handle the pain. She was right ! Everytime I get a slight crap in my uterus, I panic because it just reminds me of labor. My mom friend was like yeah no, they treated you poorly and that’s not normal. It was Jackson TN hospital. Fuck that place
Had an epidural. Didn’t feel a thing! Which was a wonderful switch from my otherwise painful pregnancy. Birth and recovery was the easiest part!
that happened with my mother, she still makes jokes about how i've been a pain since birth xD
Now I understand why my doc said I was a trooper you deliverd "sunny side up " I was so out of it I just herd the eggs part I was starving 😅
I was feet first and my twin brother was sideways. I have a scar on my ankle from my mom's C-section (and glad it wasn't my face!) Women are so incredible any way they give birth! Definitely not for me
Wow how intense. What an interesting scar to carry with you for your entire life. I bet your little infant brain was shocked to come into the world that way 💙
@girlintheworld8433 definitely! But I call it my "birthmark" lolz Could have been a lot worse!
Both my brother and I were OP babies. I came out with a cone head and bruises all over because the doctor wouldn't even try to turn me and barely breathing at all. My mom says it's a miracle that I didn't get brain damage from the trauma and lack of oxygen. My brother had his umbilical cord wrapped around his shoulder, and every time our mom had a contraction, his vitals would drop. The doctor for his birth managed to get him turned and unwrap the umbilical cord and he turned out perfectly fine.
I had no idea about coupling contractions. You just made me feel so seen that it’s healing my back labor trauma😭😂
Delivered my second baby on all fours 3 months ago and let me tell you, A WORLD of difference! No tearing, I could "J" breathe him down, no coached pushing, had my nitrous mask in one hand and could take a puff when the contractions were on top of each other at the end. The nurses said I'm welcome to come deliver a baby every year with them 😂
Two time surviver is the best way to say you have birthed 2 kids.
Dad came out and the doctors thought he was going to need surgery because his baby arms were out of sockets, his thumbs were out of socket, and he was crying(like all children do)
Anyway, arms and thumbs immediately popped back into place. Double jointed Houdini baby
Mom's are amazing.
They tried having me get on hands n knees when i was in labor...it was so painful just getting in that position that i was stuck and needed help turning back around onto my back on the bed.
I had MAJOR back labor and probably will with my 2nd. This video was very helpful
I had massively bad back labor with my oldest. He was sunny side up and no change of position helped it. The doctors couldn't get him to flip and for some reason, I stopped dilating at an 8. Then, on top of it all, when I would have contractions later in my labor, his heart rate would drop. Ended up having to do an unplanned cesarean to get him out safely.
My sister had her first baby in breach. It was agonising, and I, as a 16 year old edgy kid, shockingly showed compassion for once, as it was agonising so basically I did everything for her while we were waiting at home for her husband to get there to take her to hospital from base (he's in the Airforce) about an hour away from our house.
I’m not having kids. I don’t think I can handle it or be mentally fit to raise them. Respect to moms out there holy shit
I am a male teenager but your advice is greatly appreciated
"2 time survivor" is the best wording
My 16 year old was face up and had back pain and ended up with c section after pushing for 2.5 hours. I gave up because they made me lay down to birth.
Laying down is not evidence based. Sorry you went through that.
@@fireincarnation2348 i was 17 too.
I literally cannot bear the pain of contractions lying down. I have to stand in a slight squat, and then it's pretty easy. I learned not to birth with a doctor after my first birth because they don't listen to mothers OR science.
Is it possible for back labour to just also be how your body does labour? I've had 6 kids and only ever back labour.
Yes! I had five like that and the last one was horribly painful. I damaged my tailbone and it only stopped hurting 4 years later.😢
Yesss! 4 all back labor
When yall say back labor, is it just your back or pain all the way around? Mine hurt the front and back.
@@jacklenrandall6456 for me it's literally just my back. I can feel tightening in the front but if there is any pain it's totally eclipsed by the pain in my back.
@@heidimiller656 It must be true. All four of mine were back labor.
Luckily I had an epidural because my baby was sunny side up and the attending asked if she could reach inside me and turn her over and I said sure ( I didn't really feel it). Then my baby flipped back and she asked if she could do it again, she sure it would work this time and it did. But omg my husband saw the blood oozing out while she was in there turning things around. Bless him😅
Yes I had 2 natural baby’s births and I had a lot of back pains during my both pregnancy 😔😔
We thought babe might be OP because I had back labor... turns out, he was breech posterior 🥴 that back labor was INTENSE
I had the worst back pain during labor. I was only in labor for 12 hrs but it felt like an eternity because of the pain.
I had both babies natural and without epidurals. I had back pain with my daughter and leg and stomach pain with my second. I also went numb once they crowned, both times!! I feel perineal massage helped me not tear, being positive about the entire situation, and feeling the pain helped me have fast labors. ♡♡
as a 15 year old school boy, i cant say ive ever had pain during childbirth, no
I was told my first was Sunnyside up, but I had nothing to compare to. Considering she was transverse at the beginning of labor. I carried all 3 sideways. #2 only had her umbilical cord presenting, so C-section. #3 sideways, gestational diabetes, rolled on his cord only 14 months after sister, so also Csection
That’s how my baby was. She didn’t turn until she was basically coming out
Good to know also love your videos ❤️💕💜
Never stops amazing me the power of the birth canal...
I had one of my three in the op position. Dear God, was the worst ever back labor with absolutely no space between contractions. Was awful. Bonus though, he was a fast labor. 5.5 hours from start too finish. But, he did have some issues with breathing and heart rates not going down to normal for over 24 hours. But he's happy and healthy now, and that's all that I ever wanted.
Yes that was me all of mine where sunny side up the contractions were back to back it’s amazing what our bodies can do 😊❤ thank you for explaining
My second son was breached. I went into premature labor 3 weeks before my scheduled c section at 39 weeks. The contractions were inconsistent with time and intensity but I hadn't felt that pain since giving birth to my first. I know false contractions, I had them every day for 11 weeks with my first. Since there was no consistency I tried treating it like false contractions... for 13 hours straight a contraction with any spacing between 5 minutes to 24 minutes. With any pain level between early labor contractions to screaming curse words while I pee myself in pain. Call the doctor and they told me it's just false contractions. Just drink some water and relax. Like I hadn't done that in the past 13 hours? I even fell asleep and woke up with the same contractions. I kept getting told I wasn't in labor if there was no consistency. However after 13 hours I'm going to the doctor. Sure enough I was in labor and the fact he was breached made the contractions inconsistent. The doctor at the hospital, knew that but my doctor didn't. (I have more issues with that ich and already made it clear she wasn't allowed to even be in my delivery room) I also had other pregnancy issues that I medically could not have this baby at home even if he was head down. Can you talk about that too. Because I felt really ignored while I was actively in labor and I feel the breached baby mamas need to know more.
I had a sunny side up. Doctors tried all types of positions and exercises she just wouldn’t turn. When baby came out that tore me and bruised up my butt and back real bad. I had to do physical therapy for 4 months post delivery I couldn’t walk. Pregnancy and delivery is no joke. But best thing is she came out so sweet , healthy and beautiful, she is now turning for and I had 1 more after her much easier delivery and one on the way due soon.
My kids didn't turn around TWICE! My water broke, and I was induced with my first. I had back labor, so I had an epidural and there was no option to get up. The baby broke my tailbone with her skull. The baby became distressed and I was rushed to surgery for C-section #1. It was awful. I think it was the combination of the drugs, and being tired from pushing for a few hours, and a brand new baby doc working with an old doctor that ruined it for me. I had issues after the surgery with adhesions, dryness, and pain. Cough "wrong" and feel something pull or rip inside. Owww.
C-section #2 was scheduled, because baby wouldn't go head down. Poor thing was a whole 2" taller than their older sibling! My dreams of a VBAC were gone, but the surgery was much better. I chose a great surgeon the second time. The surgery was executed beautifully and he repaired the adhesions. He brought #2 into the world feet first, and all my other problems went away too!
This is crazy didn't know this thanks Gabriel 😅
I had back labor with my 1st and currently only baby. I was told whilst I was pregnant we were back to back and to watch out for back labor. Luckily he was a perfect sport and labor went as well as labor could go and he came out almost no issues except an older midwife helped adjust his position as I was pushing 😳
Yep just when I start saying hmm i want a 3rd.. yall ladies noped me right out of that one. My backs hurting like hell rn just reading theae comments and thinking about the pain
Justifying my Tokophobia one video at a time
Yep! Sunny side up and back labor! Being on all fours I got lots of relief.
No meds!!
My eighth. 😂
As soon as my first real contraction hit I knew something wasn’t “right”. The pain in my back was horrific and I found myself crawling down my parents hallway on all 4’s. Elongating my back seemed to help a little bit and so did rocking on all 4’s. She was my first baby and only one I had back labor with, thank goodness!!
Had two OP, two OA. In some ways OP was easier for the contractions - call me crazy, but my OA were way more intense and my husband couldn't apply pressure anywhere that helped. The pushing though. Ugh. They got out, but it was a battle. The OA just seemed to slide straight out compared to the OP babies.
I had a lot of back pain during child birth. Knowing what you just said… reason 2042 why I’m glad I had a c-section.
My 2nd did this she was 22 1/2 in & 9 lbs 8.6 oz. and I ended up breaking 2 vertebrae and 2 ribs during delivery. I HAD ANOTHER BABY 20 months later so it didn’t stop be. Worth every second of it.
My youngest sister (3rd child) was in optimal position. Then, 30 minutes later, as my moms water broke, she was feet down and coming f a s t. Mom had to get a c-section. 😅 sis has been a hellion since she was in the womb, lmfaooooo
❤You my favourite midwife. I appreciate your videos! They are so fun, funny and intelligent 📸📸📸📸
I knew all fours was the position for me before I was even pregnant!! I was so baffled when 45 minutes of pushing that way didn’t move him a centimeter and I ended up on my back anyway 😢 but I feel better after seeing this! That had to be what got him from sunny side up to butt sniffing after HOURS of maneuvering
I came out ass first when I was born, so I think I was trying to make it as painful as possible 😂😂
Had that with my 9.1 lbs son. I was doing just fine with my labor and all natural birth then stopped at 7 cm until I naturally produced my own pitocin (nipple stimulation). Then the back labor started and was like I was having contractions every minute. They wanted me to get on my hands and knees but I didn’t have enough of a break from contractions. He came out fine and I was relieved.
My tailbone was literally bruised after from her pushing against it during labor 😅
Yes, very painful back labour. I was trying to suck in that gas to relieve pain but would get quite nauseous so would gasp for fresh air. At this point my husband informed me that I could use a teeth brushing 😶... My son was OP position and almost 10 lbs... 😩... he also had the umbilical cord wrapped around his neck so was very stressful labour. He was born a deep purple and I thought he was stillborn until his Moro reflex let me know that he was alive. At this point, my husband told me that he was a boy.
My son, who is my oldest, he came through in the ideal position. Labor was about 17 hours, but relatively uncomplicated aside from a last minute episiotomy, and my epidural coming out of my back and wearing off right around push time… making it too late for a bolus. Similarly, my pregnancy with him was pretty normal, he was pretty mellow. To this day, his personality is very much the same as I guess. I imagined it when I was pregnant with him.
My daughter, who is slightly less than a year and a half younger than him, was a stargazer. Despite trying to physically manipulate my very pregnant belly to get her to turn around when I was in early labor, she stubbornly refused to assume the proper position. My labor with her was 27 hours and absolutely horrendous. Towards the end, they were debating as to whether or not to rush me into surgery for a C-section because she was starting to show signs of distress and I was exhausted. My epidural came out right around push time again with her, also. So, I basically had to raw dog the pain yet again. But her delivery was much, much more difficult and painful. She also was a wild child throughout my pregnancy as well. Nonstop kicker and wiggle worm. At the end of the day, she showed up on her timeframe, her schedule. Natural delivery, and peroneal tearing this time.
And just like with her brother, her personality as I know it now, was very much reflected in terms of how my pregnancy and my delivery of her went. 😂 she is my spicy one.
'Occiput' is the back of their head. So when the back of their head is facing the spine/back of the womb, it's the 'back of the head, back of the womb' or occiput posterior. If it's facing the front, it's the anterior. If the head is the presenting part (lowest part of the baby in the pelvis, the part that would be born first) then it's usually the vertex they talk about (the top of the head). It's confusing.
The girls in my family were all born Sunnyside up. The boys were normal.
My daughter was not just Sunnyside up but she also had the cord wrapped around her neck.
I went into labor on Halloween. Took my son trick-or-treating. When to the hospital afterwards and the Dr was so sure I'd have her that night. The contractions got down to about 5 minutes apart and then stopped. She didn't come out until 3 weeks after that.
My daughter was 3 weeks late and my son was a week early. They are both very small though. They were 6 lb 10 oz and 6 lb 11 oz.
All 4 of my kids were horrific back labor. I've had 10 surgeries on my entire spine since!
Oldest was OP, the other 2 were OA.
As a nurse in also found that OP labors do like hands and knees or kneeling on the bed with the foot portion lowered and the they rest their elbows on the "seat" part of the bed.
Even have had them deliver in that position!😊
A two time survivor! Oo so true 😢
Posterior for my 1st baby. It was horrific back pain. The giving birth part was not as bad. Got 3rd degree tear. I have 5 kids now. Each birth and pregnancy is different. ❤
I had unmedicated births for both my sons.
I had mild back labour with my first however he was OA and the birth was very smooth and orogressed well. But my second was OP and my gosh labour and birth was SO MUCH MORE INTEEEEEENSE! It was absolutely crazy. Was also a homebirth! Lol
Yes! I had back labor and was unable to dilate. They did not believe I was in labor until I eventually had an emergency C-section. I’m pregnant with my second now and know how to advocate for myself better.
First time mum this past August 🥰 My baby came out sideways (imagine when she was coming out she was facing my inner thigh). 31 hours of labour, had to have my waters broken, episiotomy and a tear. Only gas and air. I begged for that epidural but never got one. I had all back pain during my labour didn’t feel anything in my abdomen. According to my doctor the reason I laboured for 31 hours was because she wasn’t sitting on my cervix correctly so my cervix wasn’t dilating how it was supposed to. I was 2cm for 24 of those hours.
My first was posterior born. My epidural blocked (thanks to some stupid midwives) i was supposed to have an emergency cesarean hours beforehand, i could only be on my back because her heartrate plummeted on all fours and i hemorrhaged BADLY. Definitely the worst labour out of my 3, and i still remember the pain in my back from her spine on mine. Worth it to have her, but definitely did SUCK.
I had an OP sunnyside up little boy. 32 week gestation and doc was shook that not only was I an 18 year old in 8 week preterm labor with ruptured waters but my little dude came out OP with a 32 cm head diameter (average diameter for a full term neonate is 33-37 average diameter for a 32 week fetus is 27)I sunnyside birthed a practically full term head 🙃 he was an odd looking preemie with that big ole noggin he was 3lbs 12 and I’m confident most of it was his head LOL he’s a happy healthy 1st grader who will be 7 in just 26 days. Yes his head is still huge 95th percentile no discernible abnormality just half a tad over a quarter Irish apparently
My baby was sunny side up. The back labour suuuuuuuucked and the hospital didn't do birth plans. They had what they deemed best practice, on your back, legs up. I kept trying to tell them on all fours was most comfortable for me but they kept making me lay down. Needless to say, I jumped at the epidural once I figured they'd make me stay on my back the whole time lmbo
Sunny side up 9 pound 6 oz baby with a head measuring in the 99th percentile. Haha. Back pain so bad i threw up multiple times, epidurals didnt work for the pain, just worked from my hips down. Had to have an emergency c-section after over 24 hours of labor and only getting to 4 cm. Then i felt my c section. Lol. Had to put me all the way under.
Yea...... Back labor check..... I'm 4'10".... My son's were 9 and1/2lbs and 12lbs
I had a sunny side up baby. I just remember thinking my back was going to break. The back pain was awful.
I had 4 Sunnyside babies i also had one sideways ,
My first was face up and I didn’t have back labor. My second was facing my back like she should and I DID have back labor. So, I would imagine there are other reasons for back labor as well, and that what is said here to cause it, does not ALWAYS cause back labor. Just a heads up. Hope all the mamas out there have a safe and happy labor/delivery.
First was OP and had her left arm up 😅 thank goodness for the epidural, got that bad boy early on and it was a lifesaver.
Especially when doctor had to manually extract the placenta.
Second baby was completely the opposite, and birth went smoothly.
Aaaand then there were me and my brother, who decided to sit feet down lol
My baby was sunnyside, I didn’t care about me but I was so concerned for her because she came out bruised, happy to report three months later and she’s healthy smart and strong. No signs of anything that happened to her during birth ☺️
I had back labor with my first. Counter pressure on my spine during contractions was the only way I got relief. Seemed to have regular labor with my second, the pressure around the stomach felt completely different.
Can't recommend either lol.
Despite having an epidural, it did not TOUCH any of the pain of my back labor. Lying down and in too much pain/too weak to do hands and knees like I had wanted to. Ended up needing the vacuum and an episiotomy, but glad it was offered or it likely would have been a C-section. Worst pain of my life honestly.
My daughters, all 3, pushed their babies out like nothing. No real pain, no struggle, easy breezy for them. I, however, had awful awful labors. One with zero pain medication, not even a tylenol. One was in the OP position. Labor was traumatizing for me with the amount of pain. ( my oldest daughters 3rd baby tho, almost killed her and baby Noah, extremely high risk, grave labor😢)
Both my babies were sunny side up, and my second I did all natural. I pushed for 2 hours for both. Hands and knees was a life saver for me.
Just had my baby 3 days ago, and she was in the OP position. The back pain was like nothing I've ever experienced. I got an epidural, and it helped so much. After hours of pushing, the doctor used a suction device to finally get her out.
My second was sunny side up. I honestly thought my back's gonna burst. Not break, explode. I kept saying that something seems wrong and got an epidural. Good decision as we needed the suction cup in the end to get him out. My midwife then told me that he was a ss baby and I was like 'right, all makes sense now". A pain I'll never forget, that's for sure😮
I had my oldest son that way. I had back labor it was so not fun! My other two child came out the right way and my labor wasn’t so back. But I will always remember the back labor!
Every one of my births had severe back labor luckily my last one we got the epidural in one time so that was so much easier.
Do you also use that for pasta?
😂😂😂😂
I'm a mom of 4 and 2 of them were back births, in Germany we call them "Sternegucker" which roughly means "star gazer".
The "easistest" birth I had on all fours, the hardest was laying on the left side. The contractions were horrible and I felt like I was unable to push properly. Though, the midwife afterwards assured me that there was a lot of power behind me pushing, it just didn't felt like it for me.
You know what, I don't remember them telling me which way he came out, however I was in intense back labor for hours and had not one but 2 epidural.
Best day of my life, my 9.13 lb little man was perfect, and my doctor was able to do pernial massage for the entire long amount of hours along with a lot of preparation from me in the form of birthing classes and strengthening my pelvic floor, I had only minor level 1 tears
Yep, first was like this, next two were much better. Labour is still terrible but at least they were half the time in labour and half the time pushing
My 5th and final baby was sunny side up! It’s a good thing he had a small head!!