USA Hockey Will Beat Team Canada At The 4Nation Faceoff...

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
  • Earlier today, the four nations competing at the 2025 4Nation Faceoff announced the first six players of their rosters. Canada's roster is absolutely loaded with star talent and their final roster may rival the 1987 Canada Cup team. However, one competitor may upset the Canadian dream team, The United States. Their first six players announced are all superstars, and they have one massive advantage over the Canadians. In this video, I discuss this advantage and how it may derail an entire generation of Canadian talent.
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  • @TheBluelineHockey
    @TheBluelineHockey  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Who do you think will win the 4Nation Faceoff in 2025? Who should start in net for Team Canada?

    • @TimFrith24
      @TimFrith24 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Stuart Skinner of the Oilers will be the starting goalie for Team Canada in next year’s NHL 4 Nations Face-Off.

    • @nicklbckluvr
      @nicklbckluvr 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Binnington

    • @CanucksFan201
      @CanucksFan201 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TimFrith24nah Boeser, Hughes and Miller are all likely candidates for Americas final roster

    • @CanucksFan201
      @CanucksFan201 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TimFrith24Binner would be a better choice

    • @CanucksFan201
      @CanucksFan201 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TimFrith24Binnington and Hill is the best possible Goaltending Tandem

  • @thehitstorychannel
    @thehitstorychannel 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    Its certainly possible, but McDavid, MacKinnon, and Crosby down the middle is too much for ANY goalie. If Canada gets average goaltending, they’ll win.

    • @armenkara1154
      @armenkara1154 วันที่ผ่านมา

      they also have point , marner, nylander reinhart it’s gonna be insane

    • @keloonpa58.62
      @keloonpa58.62 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@armenkara1154nylander will be on team Sweden

  • @nitehawkus7385
    @nitehawkus7385 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    The only position the Americans have an advantage over Canada is in net. That doesn’t guarantee them anything

    • @nucks4life11
      @nucks4life11 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Americans have better defence as well.

  • @tommyjack6425
    @tommyjack6425 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Im old enough to say. Never doubt team Canada. Like ever. 2006 is the only blemish since using NHL players in international competition.

  • @aaronpaugh7222
    @aaronpaugh7222 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Crosby, MacKinnon, McDavid, bedard, Marchand, makar, toews. Doesnt matter who your goalie is, good luck competing with that.

  • @Xdot15
    @Xdot15 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The goaltending isnt as bad as people think it is, but whatever helps Americans sleep better at night 😂

    • @keloonpa58.62
      @keloonpa58.62 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Fr, Hill carried the knights at times during their cup run

  • @IusedtohaveausernameIliked
    @IusedtohaveausernameIliked 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Hockey is a game played on ice, not on paper.

  • @JM-gj7de
    @JM-gj7de 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    There's no bigger USA hockey fanatic than me. But predictions like this are silly. USA could win every game or lose every game and get killed. All four teams will be stacked. In a one-off tournament, anyone can beat anyone. All it takes is a hot goalie or a bad bounce etc... Honestly, I think USA would struggle to beat Finland, let alone Canada. Why? Finland, despite not having the most impressive roster, always play as a TEAM and sacrifice for each other. Same with Canada. Wearing that maple leaf seems to give them an extra gear. The problem for American star players is that they know they're good. Imo, that's a negative. It's better to stay humble and keep your expectations low. Impossible for this group of guys.
    I've been watching hockey since the mid-1980s. The only time USA managed beat Canada's best in a game that actually mattered was in the 1996 World Cup. USA did so because they played as a team. Since then, USA has always...without exception...FAILED to live up to the hype. For whatever reason, they've always disappointed. I don't care how pretty their roster looks. Until they actually win another best-on-best tournament, I'll remain skeptical. Show me!

  • @kimcokevin
    @kimcokevin 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Adin Hill is a Stanley Cup winning goalie, and when he was healthy last season he was lights out.

  • @Kyle-kt9qr
    @Kyle-kt9qr 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Making canada not the favorite is what canada wants... we feed off it

  • @Ryan-ve7le
    @Ryan-ve7le 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    If we gotta rely on Skinner, im shaking…..

  • @user-qo1gk2kj3e
    @user-qo1gk2kj3e 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Montembeult will be Canadas goalie and be lights out.

  • @demjay
    @demjay 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I heard this many times before, Canada just seems cross the finish line everytime

  • @alexpayne1364
    @alexpayne1364 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ngl Sam Montembeault is so underrated. I know he's not as known as the rest but on a weak Montreal team he's a solid choice

  • @mike8099m
    @mike8099m 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Marchand should be exactly where he is.

    • @Canuck.Collector
      @Canuck.Collector 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Marchand shouldn't even be in the league guy is trash

    • @mike8099m
      @mike8099m 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Canuck.Collector in what sense

  • @davepeach6832
    @davepeach6832 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Left out USA's best goalie Swayman

  • @nathanadrian7797
    @nathanadrian7797 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It will be tough to replace Carey Price! While Carey was playing for team Canada, we never lost a game!

  • @gymguy25
    @gymguy25 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Many of Canada’s best goalies used to come out of Quebec (Brodeur, Luongo, Theodore, Giguère, Lalime, Fleury), as most Quebec kids growing up in the 80s-90s were huge fans of Patrick Roy. Fleury’s career is nearing its end and I can’t think of another good goalie from Quebec right now as for the other Canadian goalies, no question, they’re not all that great for the most part! 🙁

  • @busherjackson5016
    @busherjackson5016 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Usa hockey = no heart

    • @eqluke9890
      @eqluke9890 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      USA hockey is the most overrated program in the world, idk what this guy is talking about

  • @sanaon7453
    @sanaon7453 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Get ready to sing the star spangled banner

  • @stevendeschamps5181
    @stevendeschamps5181 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We will see about that. I don't think so

  • @douglepong
    @douglepong 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Isn't Adin Hill Canadian? I'd pick him over Skinner!

    • @TheBluelineHockey
      @TheBluelineHockey  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He is, I mentioned him in the vid

  • @former2u
    @former2u 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    while it is possible that the US can beat Canada best on best... to say that they would be the favourites is purely a lack of hockey knowledge. When was the last time an American goalie won the cup? Demko, Oettenger, Helebuyck all dissappear in important games....

  • @davesmith7993
    @davesmith7993 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With a talent pool many times the size of Canada's, it was only a matter of time after NHL expansion exploded into the US that they would have more top tier players than Canada. It's simple math.

    • @former2u
      @former2u 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thats not even close to be being true ... Canada has far more top end players. It has nothing to do with logistics.

  • @douglepong
    @douglepong 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What the hell happened to our goal tending?.. Dear lord how did it get this bad?

  • @rona6063
    @rona6063 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Evan Bouchard has played himself on team.

  • @anthonyteichroeb917
    @anthonyteichroeb917 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Colorado Dummied Hellabuck
    Oilers got Otter in 6
    Demko is made of glass.

  • @lindsman682
    @lindsman682 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    While I do agree Marchand was not the best selection, I don't think USA is "miles" ahead in goaltending. Skinner clearly outgoaled Oetinger, and Hellyebuck had a sub .80 save percentage in the playoffs. Demko was behind those two goalies. I don't see it as a clear advantage anymore.

  • @the5thlineplaymaker131
    @the5thlineplaymaker131 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Throw Marchy on a line with McDavid or Crosby and I’d bet he outperforms Hyman.. Marchy has that IQ and experience to make the little plays teams need to win.
    Not taking away from Hyman but marchy slept on

    • @MrBallzy
      @MrBallzy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hyman much better choice since he has proven that he plays well with McDavid. Will only get better next year. Either way, Canada is strong up front.

    • @davepeach6832
      @davepeach6832 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Marchy definitely has to be on the team but will be better suited with Crosby. McDavid needs Hyman 100%.

    • @the5thlineplaymaker131
      @the5thlineplaymaker131 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davepeach6832 McDavid doesn’t need Hyman 💀

  • @epants8507
    @epants8507 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The reason why hockey development in the US has gotten better is because of Canada.
    Most Canadian players (dads) play and have kids in the US. Those kids develop and play for the US.
    As far as Canadas goaltending I’m not worried…
    Any one of them can step up like Hill or Skinner.
    Canada has 33 Canadian born goalies in the NHL the US has 20.

    • @JM-gj7de
      @JM-gj7de 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "The reason why hockey development in the US has gotten better is because of Canada."...I see this type of salty comment from Canadians all the time. It's designed to make yourselves feel better inside whilst diminishing American hockey. Canadians make such statements because their pride doesn't permit them to acknowledge the accomplishments of the U.S. program. Simply put, USA hockey is a threat to Canada. Canadians feel the need to belittle by saying the U.S. owes it all to Canada. Canada is A reason...not THE reason that USA hockey has gotten better. Take an inventory of USA's best players and research how many have zero connection to Canada. The overwhelming majority of top U.S. players have no such Canadian Dads of which you speak. Cherry picking a player here or that is not reflective of the whole. I can just as easily point to the ever increasing number of top Canadian players that choose to play College (NCAA) hockey and say they owe their development to the U.S.
      "Canada has 33 Canadian born goalies in the NHL the US has 20." Quality...not quantity of goalies is more important. I'm sure you can understand this. Want to talk quantity? I have some stats that should scare the crap out of you. In the 1983-84 NHL season, Canadians represented 77.4% and the U.S. only 10.6% of total players in the league. Today, 40 years later, Canada has dropped to 42% while the U.S. climbed to 28% of the league. (QuantHockey dot com). See for yourself. The numbers don't lie. Canada and the U.S. are on opposite trajectories. It will take a few decades, but the U.S. will eventually have a quantity AND quality advantage over Canada. Truth hurts sometimes.

    • @odoaceroftheneoromanempire7178
      @odoaceroftheneoromanempire7178 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JM-gj7de All but 8 captains since 1993 that have won cups are Canadian. Only 2 Americans, 2 Swedes, A Russian, A Czech, and A Finn have Captained their team to a cup since 1993. Why would Canadians be salty? USA has 340 million people. About time you all started becoming a "threat" to Canadian hockey... Just funny seeing that only 2 American captains have led teams to cups in 30 years... Same amount as Sweden and Sweden only has 10 million people.

    • @JM-gj7de
      @JM-gj7de 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@odoaceroftheneoromanempire7178 I bare you no malice at all. But, it's clear to me that you're salty. Your mention of captains was just another predictable way to belittle American hockey. I couldn't care less about how many Cup captains are Canadian or not. If the quantity of Canadian and American Cup captains were to become level in the future, you'd simply move the goal posts and point to another irrelevant factoid. This is what Canadians do when they're afraid of losing hockey supremacy. Most amusing of all is how you mentioned population size...as if it's THE factor that determines sporting success. By your logic, India and China should be the best at hockey. Interest in the sport is far more important than population size. Hockey interest in the U.S. is increasing steadily, as evidenced by the quantity of registered ice hockey players. The real reason why you pointed out population size is because Canadians will eventually use it as an excuse if/when the U.S. surpasses Canada in hockey. Is this guaranteed to happen? No, of course not. Honestly, I think it will take another 30 years for the U.S. to unequivocally surpasses Canada in hockey. Canada still has plenty of time on top, so you can relax.

    • @blackberrythorns
      @blackberrythorns 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@JM-gj7de hockey is a canadian game. it's hilarious how you think that canada is belittling the stars and stripes empire when the opposite is a daily occurrence for canadians. maybe it's your inability to give anyone else the respect they deserve for anything at all that's the problem. your empire is completely imploding so i wouldn't make any plans that project forward decades for anything.

    • @blackberrythorns
      @blackberrythorns 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JM-gj7de you should be thanking canada for teaching you lacrosse, hockey, canadian gridiron rugby football, baseball and basketball but that will never happen as supremacists are what they are. the vast majority of the world has had enough now and your empire is finished, you'll have to get used to a new status. the dementia patient you call a president says it all really. disgraceful. shameful.

  • @emilretee6932
    @emilretee6932 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Silver and bronze. 👍

  • @ianmorrison2846
    @ianmorrison2846 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why is JT Miller not mentioned?

    • @TheBluelineHockey
      @TheBluelineHockey  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He wasn't one of their first 6 roster picks. He'll be there for sure, along with Boeser if he is healthy and Demko.

    • @BigSleepyJoeCooking
      @BigSleepyJoeCooking 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Miller, Boeser, Hughes, Garland, Joshua, Demko, Guentzel. USA is gonna get carried by Canucks!

  • @waynebusilla
    @waynebusilla 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Out of the four teams it’s anyone’s game……do not discount the Swedes or Finland……it’s going to be good hockey to watch…….however I will be cheering for the Great White North!

  • @LEETCH_2
    @LEETCH_2 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    USA!!!

  • @colinbrown9044
    @colinbrown9044 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Of Course tge USA does.

  • @KingSteady
    @KingSteady 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Matthews can't score in games that count.

  • @the.wayne.b
    @the.wayne.b 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does it even matter without Russia there to be fair tho?

  • @zachw4829
    @zachw4829 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    LFG USA

  • @moneydynamicmatanya9541
    @moneydynamicmatanya9541 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hell no

  • @BillSteffler-zk2fc
    @BillSteffler-zk2fc 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Switched to soccer.... hockeys for the rich..

  • @williammccleary5878
    @williammccleary5878 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No they won’t

  • @CanadianBiPolarBear
    @CanadianBiPolarBear 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sober up , americans have no heart. We have Aiden Hill who won the cup last year with vegas ...move along

  • @willsk7068
    @willsk7068 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    USA hockey cant do shit.

  • @SportsMuppets
    @SportsMuppets 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hahaha

  • @TimFrith24
    @TimFrith24 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Team USA will beat Team Canada in the NHL 4 Nations Face-Off final, the 2025 IIHF World Championship gold medal game, and the gold medal game at the 2026 Winter Olympics.

    • @iceking1580
      @iceking1580 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      LOL you’re delusional

    • @MrBallzy
      @MrBallzy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Saying it won't make it happen, but hey, here is hoping for you. All I can say is that USA goaltending better be at its best if there is any chance at beating Team Canada.

    • @CanadianBiPolarBear
      @CanadianBiPolarBear 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Put your meth pipe down

  • @eqluke9890
    @eqluke9890 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah I don’t even need to watch video to tell you there is 0 chance the states wins, I stg American hockey fans are delusional

    • @TheBluelineHockey
      @TheBluelineHockey  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m not American

    • @eqluke9890
      @eqluke9890 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheBluelineHockey never said you were

  • @G_Ellis606
    @G_Ellis606 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    USA team will beat Canada quite easily. No Elias Pettersson on Sweden?

    • @shib420
      @shib420 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You must be a new fan of the sport if you are saying that beating team Canada in hockey will be "quite easy"

    • @CanadianBiPolarBear
      @CanadianBiPolarBear 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sober up , usa has no balls no brains no heart