I agree that there isn’t a big enough change to upgrade my 4 to a 5. I don’t think you mentioned it but there is a firmware update for the action 4 specifically for the new battery.
Thank you very much! You are the only one on TH-cam who did the test, I asked for a test like this on several TH-cam channels and none did it. A really surprising result, I thought the battery of the 5 could last longer using the DJI 4. And I was also really curious about the battery of the 4 in the 5.
@@WheelieGoodTV Hahaha yes it will! Good companies like honest reviews. I saw information that despite the same sensor, the DJI 5 has a 4-nanometer processor construction, which is why it achieves better energy efficiency.
Wow man , tks a lot for this video , great personality, keep it on , I will buy the action 3 now still a good one I think and will just be using it for recording some TH-cam vlog videos about running and exercise and some running and walking activity , so let's see how this thing works , I've never had an action cam , I am a pro photographer so I own a very different camera from an action one ,
@@WheelieGoodTV First, thx for your video, I'm from Indonesia and recently just bought action 4 adventure combo, I have a question, is osmo action 3 battery support in action 4? Because it so difficult to find osmo action 4 battery in e-commerce (the only available is OA 3 & OA5 battery)
Thank you! finally somebody did the test that actually useful! I did the live streaming test at 1080p30 the other day with the old battery and I got interesting result. Before the firmware update, I got about 100 minutes, and after the firmware update I got 115 minutes. No overheat. I know the new battery wont helps much but having exactly the same recording time is abit bummer!!
This video is really very helpful, because I just bought an action 4 and have plans to buy an additional battery belonging to the action 5 pro and use it in my action 4. I was very lucky to find this video. So I can save money because there is a price difference between action 4 and action 5 batteries. Thank you very much for making this comparison video. 🙏🏻 And I will subscribe to your TH-cam channel. 🙂
@@94ryanrichard yes there are a lot of users including myself who can’t justify the move to the 5 but would have liked the longer battery life. Well at least we all know now that it doesn’t work. I truly suspect the 5 is running a lower quality/bit rate to prolong the battery life. It’s very naughty of DJI.
Brilliant to know Dave, thank you. I am one of those vloggers who records A to B, but certainly do still have a lot of editing to do. I record at 2.7k which is more than adequate in my opinion, even for big screen tv’s. Battery life out of my OA3 truly is amazing. Thanks again.
Thank you for the test. To me this is not a conclusive test since batteries behave differently as they approach empty charge. Id like to see the same test with a fan blowing on each camera. I didn't have a dji camera but i know different settings on a GoPro cause different levels of heat generation. Could your camera in the test have had 2 different settings?
No, I made sure my cameras were both set exactly the same. I tell you what though, why don’t you go and buy two cameras, two batteries and two fans and put your mind at ease.
@WheelieGoodTV didn't mean to offend. I'm a bit overkill when it comes to scientific method. certainly there is value in the work you've done. I think you have the only video on TH-cam right now doing this test.
Agree with you on this 100%!! thanks for confirming. Only thing i find interesting is those newer 1900mah batteries that work with the 4 👍 I greatly appreciate your input Dave especially when it comes to film/camera info.
Thank you for this vid, I bought a new battery when they came out and found exactly the same. I thought the battery was faulty so I contacted DJI who sent out another battery and its the same.
I am wanting to do 66 for my 50th in a couple of years . Can't wait to see your updates . As you know I'm likewise a DJI osmo fan , the 5 hasn't really blown me away enough to change up. That said , as I'm still using (and happy enough) on the OA3 . As I have got a mic 2 it will be time to move on for next season.
Yes more of these please Dave - love your lighting and picture quality generally, can we have a video about your lighting and camera set up for these talking heads videos please??
Very informative video Dave. Would you be able to do a ''Settings'' video too please for your general riding footage ? I think that would be very useful for everyone. Thank you
Hah ! As soon as I read about the new battery capacity THIS very thought went through my mind 😁. Thank you for answering the question. BUT, what did make me consider upgrading, correct me if I'm wrong, is that you can now connect BOTH MIC 2 mics via Bluetooth to the Action 5 Pro camera, no need for that receiver which is only held in by the USB C socket and does not fit when you have the protector cage on. So one can, with ease now, record one's verbiage 😉 AND engine/exhaust sound.
Well that saved me a few quid, thanks Dave. I nearly bought a couple of the new batteries before my recent trip to the Picos in Spain, but I’m glad I didn’t now. I have 6 of the older batteries for my Action 4’s and expected the new ones to last longer.
Yes I think a lot of us were hoping the new batteries would be a cheaper alternative to buying new cameras. I’m sticking with my 4’s though as they are a superb cam.
Always enjoy your camera/filming related content 👌 Make it as technical as you like for me! I don't film on the bike these days, but for my style of video... outdoors/walking etc I've given up on GoPro, I use Lumix G9 and G7 + DJI Pocket and Drone. Thanks for sharing your knowledge 👌 ATB Alistair 👍
@@WainwrightWalksWiaLocalLad thanks Alistair and appreciate you tuning in. I love your channel!! Anyone reading this then go and check out this channel. It’s a beautiful escape!!
Darn it! I bought 2 of the new batteries for my Action 4 before seeing this video. If anything, Ive found them to perform slightly worse than the original batteries! Definitely not worth buying. Thanks for confirming my regretful suspicions 👍🏾
Do you use the MIC 2 with your DJI Action 4? Did they ever update the delay of the mic 2 turning on when you hit the quick record button on the camera? I do it of off road ridding in Florida on my Tenere and trying to decide if I should add the osmo action 4 with the mic 2 Bluetooth mic.
@ I’ve been using the DJI Osmo Action 3 with the receiver attached to the camera and followed your lead on placing the wireless mic in my neck gator. I definitely capture great audio that way. I haven’t had luck with using a wired mic. Love your channel. You are a professional and a master in your craft. Your videos have definitely inspired me and have provided me with some great knowledge and insight.
1,770mAh to 1.950mAh capacity is a 10% increase, really that's barely noticeable in real world when you using your action camera. I'm going to connect a power bank to mine when i ride next time and extend the run-time that way instead of buying extra batteries.
Interesting test! Sir, new battery need 4.45V, when old need 4.4V, it mean new battery with "old" charger or "old" cameras would be uncharged to full capacity
Is that why they dropped the bitrate? Overheating? I've got the 3, the 4 and the 5 Pro, and tbh I find the 3 is still a great camera, but at the moment I think the 4 has better video quality than the 5 Pro
Interesting that you're recording in 50 fps. Given that most monitors are running at a 30fps or multiples thereof, im using a 30/60 workflow. I can't find a reason to use 25/50 any more. Interested in your thoughts on that.
I’ve made a few vids on this but at 25/50 European format, everything talks to each other when I need to insert footage from drones/cameras that I might have already previously shot for my TV work. The other thing and perhaps the main reason is that the frame rates were designed to match the electrical frequency in the country they were used in hence why in all modern day cams even action cams like GoPro it is now called system frequency rather than frame rate. The biggest notable thing here is when you’re shooting inside a garage or your house using the ceiling lights powered by your house electricity, they will flicker a lot if you’re shooting 30/60 and you’re in Europe/UK. Select 25/50 and this will smooth out the flicker a lot.
At 30/60 fps here Europe and the UK you will see flickering from any sort of artificial lighting as the mains frequency is 50hz. The USA uses 60hz mains and so 30/60 fps is fine over there.
Flickering, indoors. OK. We have a 30/60 process at work (Germany) and don't have problems with flickering but maybe we're lucky. Personally it annoys me as a user when the 25/50s play on my 60fps monitors but maybe I'm just over sensitive to that.
@@WheelieGoodTV Wow that's some handy info on frame rates/frequency and indoor lighting. Excellent video btw, so many DJI reviews on YT are sponsored and we all know what that means, great to find someone who's not affiliated in that way. The DJI Action 4 is £219 on Amazon, the Action 5 Pro is £329, i'm very tempted by the DJI Action 4 at that price, it's all too easy to get swept up in the new tech and the specs whilst forgetting it's 50% more expensive to buy, £109 more than the 4. VFM looks like the Action 4 is the best deal.
@@urbanfireblade I would definitely buy the 4. I’ve compared the picture quality quite a lot now and I prefer the 4 overall. I’m really not a fan of HDR.
On a side note, the image quality in this vid was spot on! (Although the facial tracking was a bit over sensitive/reactive). I thought the new 5s had a larger size battery. Not backwards compatible
I wasn't expecting that outcome I must admit. I shoot in 9bit "normal" colours, not sure if thats best or not. interesting out come I wasn't expecting , your like a proper scientist doing this test ha!
Brilliant review mate , DJI are missing a trick not getting you on board, however, even if they did, I know your camera reviews would still be 100% honest (maybe that’s what they are afraid of!!!)
@ Good stuff, moved to two 5s from a 3 & 4 liking it so far despite being a bit of a beta tester for new fw, just wish DJI would sort the multicam issue on the remote proper.
I agree that there isn’t a big enough change to upgrade my 4 to a 5. I don’t think you mentioned it but there is a firmware update for the action 4 specifically for the new battery.
You’re dead right mate. I did the firmware upgrades before I recorded this test then forgot to mention it.🤯🤯🤣
@@WheelieGoodTVin that case you have saved me a few pounds as I was going to buy those batteries for my action 4. I know now it’s pointless
Thank you very much! You are the only one on TH-cam who did the test, I asked for a test like this on several TH-cam channels and none did it. A really surprising result, I thought the battery of the 5 could last longer using the DJI 4. And I was also really curious about the battery of the 4 in the 5.
Yeah I think a lot of us were wondering the same thing. I’m not sure DJI will want to ever deal with me now!🤣👌
@@WheelieGoodTV Hahaha yes it will! Good companies like honest reviews. I saw information that despite the same sensor, the DJI 5 has a 4-nanometer processor construction, which is why it achieves better energy efficiency.
Once again Dave many thanks for taking the hit for us and taking the time to let us all know the outcome. You're my guru when it comes to cameras.
Your sense of humor is excellent 😂 Thanks for the indepth, nerdy breakdown of it all. SPECS MATTER! Scientific method, love it.
Cheers buddy. Appreciated 🤣👌
Thanks
No need for that buddy but cheers man. 🙏
Wow man , tks a lot for this video , great personality, keep it on , I will buy the action 3 now still a good one I think and will just be using it for recording some TH-cam vlog videos about running and exercise and some running and walking activity , so let's see how this thing works , I've never had an action cam , I am a pro photographer so I own a very different camera from an action one ,
@@mojikatofficial welcome 🙏. I would go for the 4 if it’s your first one. Some very good deals on this at the moment.
@@WheelieGoodTV First, thx for your video, I'm from Indonesia and recently just bought action 4 adventure combo,
I have a question, is osmo action 3 battery support in action 4? Because it so difficult to find osmo action 4 battery in e-commerce (the only available is OA 3 & OA5 battery)
Thank you! finally somebody did the test that actually useful! I did the live streaming test at 1080p30 the other day with the old battery and I got interesting result. Before the firmware update, I got about 100 minutes, and after the firmware update I got 115 minutes. No overheat. I know the new battery wont helps much but having exactly the same recording time is abit bummer!!
Loved the content.. Top notch Presentation!!
@@musiconnew very kind. Thank you. 🙏
Love the techie videos. All my camera setups are based onto advice you’ve provided.
Thanks for the feedback. 👌🎥
Great video. Very informative just bought the Action 4s and was looking at extra batteries so thank you.
It certainly saved me a few quid as I was looking into buying 6 of them for my trips next year. 🤯
This video is really very helpful, because I just bought an action 4 and have plans to buy an additional battery belonging to the action 5 pro and use it in my action 4.
I was very lucky to find this video. So I can save money because there is a price difference between action 4 and action 5 batteries.
Thank you very much for making this comparison video. 🙏🏻
And I will subscribe to your TH-cam channel. 🙂
@@94ryanrichard yes there are a lot of users including myself who can’t justify the move to the 5 but would have liked the longer battery life. Well at least we all know now that it doesn’t work. I truly suspect the 5 is running a lower quality/bit rate to prolong the battery life. It’s very naughty of DJI.
Brilliant to know Dave, thank you. I am one of those vloggers who records A to B, but certainly do still have a lot of editing to do. I record at 2.7k which is more than adequate in my opinion, even for big screen tv’s. Battery life out of my OA3 truly is amazing. Thanks again.
Welcome mate. 🙏
Thank you for the test. To me this is not a conclusive test since batteries behave differently as they approach empty charge. Id like to see the same test with a fan blowing on each camera.
I didn't have a dji camera but i know different settings on a GoPro cause different levels of heat generation. Could your camera in the test have had 2 different settings?
No, I made sure my cameras were both set exactly the same. I tell you what though, why don’t you go and buy two cameras, two batteries and two fans and put your mind at ease.
@WheelieGoodTV didn't mean to offend. I'm a bit overkill when it comes to scientific method. certainly there is value in the work you've done. I think you have the only video on TH-cam right now doing this test.
thanks for that, I've had an old gopro for my diving vids but I think it's well time I upgraded 😀
Agree with you on this 100%!! thanks for confirming. Only thing i find interesting is those newer 1900mah batteries that work with the 4 👍 I greatly appreciate your input Dave especially when it comes to film/camera info.
Thank you for this vid, I bought a new battery when they came out and found exactly the same. I thought the battery was faulty so I contacted DJI who sent out another battery and its the same.
Nice one Dave. Thank you.
I am wanting to do 66 for my 50th in a couple of years . Can't wait to see your updates .
As you know I'm likewise a DJI osmo fan , the 5 hasn't really blown me away enough to change up.
That said , as I'm still using (and happy enough) on the OA3 .
As I have got a mic 2 it will be time to move on for next season.
Yes more of these please Dave - love your lighting and picture quality generally, can we have a video about your lighting and camera set up for these talking heads videos please??
Is this because you’ve just bought your fancy new camera and studio mic??🤣🤣🤣👌
Very informative video Dave.
Would you be able to do a ''Settings'' video too please for your general riding footage ?
I think that would be very useful for everyone. Thank you
Hi, I’ve done many in the past but maybe it’s time for an updated one. I’ll try and find time over Xmas.
@@WheelieGoodTV Thank you
Hah ! As soon as I read about the new battery capacity THIS very thought went through my mind 😁. Thank you for answering the question. BUT, what did make me consider upgrading, correct me if I'm wrong, is that you can now connect BOTH MIC 2 mics via Bluetooth to the Action 5 Pro camera, no need for that receiver which is only held in by the USB C socket and does not fit when you have the protector cage on. So one can, with ease now, record one's verbiage 😉 AND engine/exhaust sound.
Yes that’s correct, two mics into the one cam now is a great bonus for us motovloggers. 👌🏍️🎥
Well that saved me a few quid, thanks Dave. I nearly bought a couple of the new batteries before my recent trip to the Picos in Spain, but I’m glad I didn’t now. I have 6 of the older batteries for my Action 4’s and expected the new ones to last longer.
Likewise mate. I was about to buy 6 of these new ones. Thankfully I did this test first. 🤯
THIS is the review ive been looking for, as I do NOT plan to buy the action 5 as I just use action 4 for pov shots. thanks!
Yes I think a lot of us were hoping the new batteries would be a cheaper alternative to buying new cameras. I’m sticking with my 4’s though as they are a superb cam.
@@WheelieGoodTV now i wonder, will shooting at 24fps save more battery? cause I noticed you shot at 50.
@@sayhowlingit doesn’t. I’ve tried it 😉🤗
very interesting test and results. 👍
Always enjoy your camera/filming related content 👌
Make it as technical as you like for me! I don't film on the bike these days, but for my style of video... outdoors/walking etc I've given up on GoPro, I use Lumix G9 and G7 + DJI Pocket and Drone.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge 👌 ATB Alistair 👍
@@WainwrightWalksWiaLocalLad thanks Alistair and appreciate you tuning in. I love your channel!! Anyone reading this then go and check out this channel. It’s a beautiful escape!!
Darn it! I bought 2 of the new batteries for my Action 4 before seeing this video. If anything, Ive found them to perform slightly worse than the original batteries! Definitely not worth buying.
Thanks for confirming my regretful suspicions 👍🏾
Great info, mate! I will buy an extra Osmo 4 battery for my new Osmo 4. BTW, I still keep my trusty Osmo Action 1 as a take anywhere camera!
Cheers. 🙏
Understatement of the year: "I know a bit about cameras"
🤣👌🎥
Do you use the MIC 2 with your DJI Action 4? Did they ever update the delay of the mic 2 turning on when you hit the quick record button on the camera? I do it of off road ridding in Florida on my Tenere and trying to decide if I should add the osmo action 4 with the mic 2 Bluetooth mic.
I only use it in the rain. They never did sort that delay so I just use their wired lav mic into the adapter all other times.
@ I’ve been using the DJI Osmo Action 3 with the receiver attached to the camera and followed your lead on placing the wireless mic in my neck gator. I definitely capture great audio that way. I haven’t had luck with using a wired mic. Love your channel. You are a professional and a master in your craft. Your videos have definitely inspired me and have provided me with some great knowledge and insight.
I don't know how they made a battery larger but don't get more time out of it😂
1,770mAh to 1.950mAh capacity is a 10% increase, really that's barely noticeable in real world when you using your action camera. I'm going to connect a power bank to mine when i ride next time and extend the run-time that way instead of buying extra batteries.
Interesting test! Sir, new battery need 4.45V, when old need 4.4V, it mean new battery with "old" charger or "old" cameras would be uncharged to full capacity
Is that why they dropped the bitrate? Overheating?
I've got the 3, the 4 and the 5 Pro, and tbh I find the 3 is still a great camera, but at the moment I think the 4 has better video quality than the 5 Pro
Exactly.
What camera did you use to record this video ?
DJI Pocket 3. It’s great for this sort of stuff.
Thanks
Interesting that you're recording in 50 fps. Given that most monitors are running at a 30fps or multiples thereof, im using a 30/60 workflow. I can't find a reason to use 25/50 any more. Interested in your thoughts on that.
I’ve made a few vids on this but at 25/50 European format, everything talks to each other when I need to insert footage from drones/cameras that I might have already previously shot for my TV work. The other thing and perhaps the main reason is that the frame rates were designed to match the electrical frequency in the country they were used in hence why in all modern day cams even action cams like GoPro it is now called system frequency rather than frame rate. The biggest notable thing here is when you’re shooting inside a garage or your house using the ceiling lights powered by your house electricity, they will flicker a lot if you’re shooting 30/60 and you’re in Europe/UK. Select 25/50 and this will smooth out the flicker a lot.
At 30/60 fps here Europe and the UK you will see flickering from any sort of artificial lighting as the mains frequency is 50hz. The USA uses 60hz mains and so 30/60 fps is fine over there.
Flickering, indoors. OK. We have a 30/60 process at work (Germany) and don't have problems with flickering but maybe we're lucky.
Personally it annoys me as a user when the 25/50s play on my 60fps monitors but maybe I'm just over sensitive to that.
@@WheelieGoodTV Wow that's some handy info on frame rates/frequency and indoor lighting. Excellent video btw, so many DJI reviews on YT are sponsored and we all know what that means, great to find someone who's not affiliated in that way. The DJI Action 4 is £219 on Amazon, the Action 5 Pro is £329, i'm very tempted by the DJI Action 4 at that price, it's all too easy to get swept up in the new tech and the specs whilst forgetting it's 50% more expensive to buy, £109 more than the 4. VFM looks like the Action 4 is the best deal.
@@urbanfireblade I would definitely buy the 4. I’ve compared the picture quality quite a lot now and I prefer the 4 overall. I’m really not a fan of HDR.
On a side note, the image quality in this vid was spot on! (Although the facial tracking was a bit over sensitive/reactive). I thought the new 5s had a larger size battery. Not backwards compatible
Only bigger in Milliamps. Same physical size. 👌
Great one mukka
I wasn't expecting that outcome I must admit.
I shoot in 9bit "normal" colours, not sure if thats best or not.
interesting out come I wasn't expecting , your like a proper scientist doing this test ha!
I definitely wasn’t expecting this either Steve. Pleased I did the test though as I was about to order 6 of these batteries. That saved me a few quid!
OMG, not another DJI again!
@@DorianGRMC oh yes, but only the battery. Did you watch the vid?🤔
Clue was in the title
If you do buy a new camera I’ll buy the action 4 off you, with the same old battery. 😅
Done! 👍
Brilliant review mate , DJI are missing a trick not getting you on board, however, even if they did, I know your camera reviews would still be 100% honest (maybe that’s what they are afraid of!!!)
Cheers bud. I’d love to think they would watch these vids.🤔
Shouldn't you repeat swapping cameras the batteries are in? Come on Dave if you're gonna test it cover your bases fella 😉
@@ImJensenKing 🤣🤣 Already done this test now four times using different cams. Still the same. 🤯
@ Good stuff, moved to two 5s from a 3 & 4 liking it so far despite being a bit of a beta tester for new fw, just wish DJI would sort the multicam issue on the remote proper.
The auto tracking in this video is very distracting.
@@UpsideDownFork somebody else mentioned that. I must turn it off for the next studio but. 👌🎥
@@WheelieGoodTV Loving your work as always!