Sequence is Everything for Small Parts

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  • @mrc1539
    @mrc1539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having broken many small taps over the years , I held my breath the whole time you were taping. The feel is everything , and brass seems to be the one material that I have the most trouble with. Thanks for showing how it’s done.

  • @roadshowautosports
    @roadshowautosports 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    22:05 it’s an excellent safety tip and many times professionals forget to teach them, as it is so natural the actions they’re taking that it becomes “implied” nobody would be stupid enough to do it but, being someone who’s been injured by that very same assumption, I know how much it hurts and how much it lasts that one second of dumbness we all have when we just don’t know better! Thank you Mr. Pie!

  • @billy19461
    @billy19461 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You make everything look so simple and easy. And everyone knows that is not the case. Years of experience and the mark of a true craftsman. Well done Joe Pie!

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks you.

  • @ianrobinson509
    @ianrobinson509 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks Joe. As an ex Jeweller of 26 years, used to making small parts with very small taps, this was an eye-opener. For a start I never realised my tap follower had TWO modes(tips)! And the multiple pressure springs is such a good idea. The little knurled tap holder is an excellent accessory, I won't use my tap wrench ever again.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those additions to your process will certainly change the game for you. You'll love the increase in feedback from your small tools.

  • @delstone1919
    @delstone1919 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great educational video again, Joe. An excellent tip about reversing the tap before re-entry to align the pitch, which I have been using for years without really realising why.

    • @jrkorman
      @jrkorman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dad taught me that years ago when I would be helping him on the car. Using a tap to clean some threads and even more important, when starting spark plugs! He was a machinist, so taught my why I should do it that way too!

  • @ednichols2748
    @ednichols2748 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    here's a trick I use to remove those sharp thin part-off burrs: my Kurt mill vise has hard jaws with sharp square edges. Set the jaws just wide enough for the part to have a snug fit between them. Use a soft mallet to tap the part down between the jaws, cleanly shearing off the burr. This works very well for plastic, aluminum, brass, and free cutting steel like 12L14 & 303 stainless. And it is fast if you have multiple batch of parts. Nice job with your videos , thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍

  • @farmalltomf
    @farmalltomf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joe, another outstanding vid and emphasis on "order of operation". One of my biggest challenges in training people over the past 40 years has been, "don't think about the current operation, think about the next one, and how it impacts the current one". Just another great perspective to share. Well played.

  • @Motor-City-Mike
    @Motor-City-Mike 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Process IS absolutely everything.
    I used to turn custom 6061 aluminum metering rods for motorcycle carburetors on a conventional lathe.
    There was exactly one sequence of operations that was successful.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its great once you find it.

    • @Motor-City-Mike
      @Motor-City-Mike 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221
      Yes, very seldom will someone tell you, you have to figure it out for yourself

  • @allensooter8429
    @allensooter8429 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Joe, I have a friend that makes nuts, screws and gears for pocket watches, Most of his work is under a microscope, and must be very careful not to fart or it will blow his part away. Very nice operation on this small part.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I did my formal apprenticeship in a company that specialized in the internal components of electronic watches back in the 70's. I built the fixtures and holding devices for the crowns, stems, gears and seals for watches. I get it. PS...never go to work with a hangover. Wearing a magnifier all day while semi nauseous is a real bummer.

    • @allensooter8429
      @allensooter8429 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joepie221 Oh crap, that would be a problem.

  • @claywells662
    @claywells662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the reverse trick with the tap, great idea for bolts and screws too.

  • @brucec954
    @brucec954 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very useful video for me as I am scratch building an HO steam loco. Turns out its a lot harder making very small parts than the same part in a larger dimension.

  • @TrojanHorse1959
    @TrojanHorse1959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video and machining, that nut is miniscule! You are the master machinist, thank you!

  • @garyhardman8369
    @garyhardman8369 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great instructive video, as always.
    Really good tip about reversing the tap direction, when re-engaging a thread. I did not know this.
    Thank you Joe.

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei4252 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, that knurled tap guide is nice. Now I want to go make one and go tap some small holes just for the hell of it.
    Thanks for -another- more great tips, Joe!

  • @anneinfurna8528
    @anneinfurna8528 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can save one of the steps in a production by putting a 45 Degree angle at the back end of your parting tool-it automatically chamfers the part at the back as you part it off. Also you can grind a notch in the front of the parting tool to cleanly part it off with no burr--even with the thread hole there. Love your videos, Sir!

  • @TheTsunamijuan
    @TheTsunamijuan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks again for making these videos, and taking the time to share your knowledge and experience with us.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching. I hope I earned a subscription.

    • @TheTsunamijuan
      @TheTsunamijuan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221 I think you earned it about 6 months ago from me. Shortly after I saw one of my first videos from you.

  • @joeziegler9054
    @joeziegler9054 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video Joe! Thanks or sharing your wisdom with us. Its always great to see another machinist working in their shop and the methods they use to get the work done. Keep up the great work sir!!

  • @billchiasson2019
    @billchiasson2019 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, love your common sense approach to machining, always learn Somthing! Thank you Joe.

  • @markhobster8113
    @markhobster8113 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff, I didn't even know there are threads inside 5c collets until yesterday and now I know a good use for them, also that spring plunger for tapping fine threads is a good build thanks a lot for showing small things which are like a side story to the main subject, I find I learn a lot more that way other than just showing something being made without details.

  • @peteengard9966
    @peteengard9966 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Joe.
    Can't wait to see the final product. The chain and bucket videos were awesome too!
    Thank you.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks. That bucket was fun to do.

  • @trevorjarvis3050
    @trevorjarvis3050 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always had a box of wooden toothpicks handy to use a “catcher” of the tiny bushings, ferrules and what not I was parting off. Under the parting tool, I had a shallow tray with a layer of grease in it to catch the part and try to keep it from disappearing down into the abyss should it get away from me.

    • @johndonlan5956
      @johndonlan5956 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been there...... Definitely done that..... All too often! The layer of grease in the tray is a great idea!!!! 😉

  • @johnswilley6764
    @johnswilley6764 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    More Pearls of wisdom from the Master, Joe thank you so much, I always learn something from you. Best wishes!

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching.

  • @arnoldsmachinetool4632
    @arnoldsmachinetool4632 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information.
    Actually paused the video. Went and made the tap holder. The feedback you receive is outstanding.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it will give you great confidence with smaller taps. You'll use it a lot.

  • @graemebrumfitt6668
    @graemebrumfitt6668 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great vid Joe, loads of good info, I do the reverse screw on most of my screw insertions but never thought of using it to tap. TFS, G :)

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially handy in softer materials.

  • @ronwilken5219
    @ronwilken5219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joe, your suggestion of turning the tap backwards to the "click" also applies when reassembling any plastic item that has coarse thread screws, self tapping I call them, turn the screw backwards until you feel the first thread drop into the mating thread. That way you don't cut a new thread and you avoid shattering the plastic post into which the screw is being driven.
    This reminds me of the story of the Swiss watch maker who drilled, tapped and made a screw to fit into the end of the smallest screw that an American company bragged they had made as being the smallest possible.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thats the best trick you can teach a young mechanically inclined person.

    • @carloeffigiati7275
      @carloeffigiati7275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't mess with Swiss watch maker.

  • @johndonlan5956
    @johndonlan5956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to program CNC vertical and horizontal machining centers, 4-axis double turret lathes, 5-axis screw machines..... And I can testify that sequence is everything! As a rule of thumb I would try to get all of my heavy machining done while the part was still very beefy...... And then only the more delicate work when the part had thinned out and was less rigid.
    You're so right Joe..... The order in which you do your machining makes all the difference between success or failure. The saddest thing to face is when you have a part that's ready for its next machining operation and there's not enough material to properly hold it securely. You find yourself saying "darn, I should have done that the other way around..... I should have done that other operation first...". It's so important to take the time in the beginning to carefully think out every step of the machining process, making sure of how you will hold the part and that it will be strong enough to withstand the pressures and possible deflection of the next operation. It's like playing a chess game..... You have to think ahead.
    This is a great video!

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate the comment. Thanks.

  • @jabramo340
    @jabramo340 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More great stuff Joe. I make tiny parts like this all the time, but I still learned some things.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I try to work in a tip on every video. Thanks.

  • @cogentdynamics
    @cogentdynamics 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    your videos are so awesome! some things you show I know and still enjoy hearing again "take your tools out of the machine when using hand tools!" i learned that one while pulling a small part out of a 5C collet with pliers while still having the #55 drill bit (jobber length) in the tail stock... the drill went into the side of my palm to full depth. Much respect to you sir!

  • @alexvonbosse5090
    @alexvonbosse5090 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How small is small? Small is not a problem! Where there is a will mixed with the proper skill level and necessary knowledge, most anything can be accomplished! And you just gave proof that you have what it takes!
    Thanks Joe for sharing!

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I could go much smaller, but I'd need a camera microscope to share it with you guys.

  • @bhartwigutube
    @bhartwigutube 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! Just read the comment below to see I am not the first to suggest it, but I also sometimes use the drill chuck in the tailstock to hold the wire or rod for catching the pieces while parting - especially if I am trying to two-hand the crossfeed where I am trying to use lots of cutting fluid and want to keep my brush in place.

  • @larrybarnes3920
    @larrybarnes3920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been using the old turn the bolt backwards until it clicks trick for years. I find it particularly handy when I can't see the bolt, oil fitting or whatever I'm installing.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its a good one to pass on.

  • @craigtate5930
    @craigtate5930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your lil tap holder and guide setup

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great feedback while tapping.

  • @MagnetOnlyMotors
    @MagnetOnlyMotors 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:00 I thought I was the only one with that annoying drill deflection.
    Love watching a pro and his experienced advice!

  • @highpwr
    @highpwr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joe I saw a comment you left on a different channel about using different size springs (spring rates) in your tap guide for different size taps to better match the axial force applied to the tap. Seeing it in this video just reminded me that I have a good stash of long lengths of various coil spring stock (Brownells) in different diameters and wire gage sizes. Looks like I have some spring cutting to do! Great idea - thanks.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure that was a Blondihacks video. Once you cut some down, you'll see what I mean. Makes a huge difference in plastics.

  • @steveclark..
    @steveclark.. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always great videos from Joe, look forward to part 2.

  • @sblack48
    @sblack48 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your tapered bushing/collet thingy to hold the cannon from the last vid was genius. This is cool too.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Just don't move the compound between the part and collar prep and be sure the turning and boring tools are on center. It should work out well.

  • @TedRoza
    @TedRoza 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Joe ... This coupled Video with the miniature cannon would be some of the best Instruction Videos, in regards to precision and How to tap and drill very small Items. Keep up Your Great Work.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe I should have made a micro cannon !!

  • @carlpenney901
    @carlpenney901 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am learning so much form you! Thanks again for these video's.

  • @Changtent
    @Changtent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video again Joe. Several good tips I picked up there. As far as "loosing your part on the floor" - have you got that pet wolf spider trained to recover parts for you yet? He's got to earn his keep if you take time to clean his feet like you did in an earlier video.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When I drop a small part, I turn out the shop lights and lay a flashlight on the floor. When the light hits the part, the shadow is 5 feet long. You can't miss that.

    • @sierraspecialtyauto7049
      @sierraspecialtyauto7049 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joepie221 ...if your floor is otherwise clean. If it's like mine, you see hundreds of 5 foot shadows.

    • @Changtent
      @Changtent 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221 I do that too. Also important to keep the floor clean so that when I drop something, it's not lost in the 'old' mess. I'm sure you do too. Thanks.

    • @Changtent
      @Changtent 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of those magnet-on-a-stick part retrievers is a huge help too for anything with iron in it. I always keep one handy.

  • @LambertZero
    @LambertZero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had to learn the hard way that it's better to clean the machine before making small parts, rather than after. :-) Once spent like 20 minutes looking for a part in the chip pan.

  • @garth849
    @garth849 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Joe!,, Here's a fun idea for machinist skill test -- Single-point an ID ought-eighty thread!!
    Just thinking about it makes makes my head spin, but all I need is someone to tell me that it's IMPOSSIBLE, then I'm headed out to the shop. I had to make several hundered ought-eighty tapped holes in aluminum about 25 years ago, and I actually used a Tapmatic head in the bridgeport ! Pretty nerve-racking stuff. Anyway, if you just single-point an OD ought-eighty I'm impressed enough.
    Thanks again, Gbristol.

    • @Notch90usa
      @Notch90usa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've done it. It's definitely not fun. The tool is very fragile.

  • @bruceanderson9461
    @bruceanderson9461 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My son and I learned years ago that you always turn backwards screws that screw into plastic until you get the click before tightening. This is especially important in items that are assembled and disassembled frequently. If you don’t do this you will often wind up with multiple thread paths which eventually lead to a stripped out thread.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure will. It seems many fathers have shared that with their sons. Good to see.

  • @loydsa
    @loydsa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow Joe, I am looking forward to the single point video :-)

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It should be fun. This stuff is getting too small to film it.

  • @norwegiangadgetman
    @norwegiangadgetman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The trick with rotating the tap the wrong way to seat it correctly also works very well with the screew-on lid on my thermos cup.
    (This is relevant because my cup contains industrial strength tea... Can probably be used as solvent... )
    In the case of making hex nuts, those of us that can't afford an indexer can use a Hex Collett block and a milling vise.

  • @owenclark7210
    @owenclark7210 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    smallest parts I've ever made are my chain post sockets for wooden pocketwatches. 3/16" main diameter with a 1/4"x1/16" top flange and a 3mmx0.5 thread through the middle. Very finicky to do, but it allows me to unthread the chain post from the watch and swap it between different wooden bodies.

  • @billrichardson4873
    @billrichardson4873 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff Joe, thanks for sharing

  • @FKreider
    @FKreider 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome stuff as always Joe! A friend of mine just made some 0-80 threads (and their mating parts) on a 14" lathe using a collet, is always cool to see!

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've never single pointed such a small thread. Curious to see how it goes.

  • @thrustprop67
    @thrustprop67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Inspiration,, I just want to go out to the garage and make a tap tensioner tool . Lots of innovation in that clip Joe . When I build things I usually find building the tools to make the part was just as much work as the actual project .

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True. 30 minutes to setup a 2 minute cut.

  • @angelramos-2005
    @angelramos-2005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent.You are getting closer to James A. Lea.Good,good,good.Thank you

  • @rickmellor
    @rickmellor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "now you're smarter" ... that pretty much sums up the effect of Joe's videos.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks. Thats always the plan.

    • @ronwilken5219
      @ronwilken5219 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @cpcoark
    @cpcoark 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good as always Joe. Why not put a small dimple in the end of your stop so the nib doesn't affect your spacing?

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have those too. Good comment.

  • @planeflyer21
    @planeflyer21 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This will be a good series. My buddy was in a shop where they regularly single-pointed 0-80 parts. He described it as "threading a cooked noodle."

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I may have finally break down and buy an optivisor.

    • @planeflyer21
      @planeflyer21 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221 lol Yeah, that's pretty fine thread.

  • @johnwallace9002
    @johnwallace9002 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a brass bushing clamped in the drill Chuck in lathe or mill or drill press instead of a spring center so that there is no pressure on the tap. You just need bushings and wheels for #10, #8, and #6 and under.

  • @beachcomberbob3496
    @beachcomberbob3496 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I put my wire/rod 'part catcher' in a tailstock chuck when parting off. No fingers endangered.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Safer the better. Threaded part will grab and form that hook everytime.

    • @PaulSteMarie
      @PaulSteMarie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221 Not only the hook, but the spindle will use that bit of thread like a bolo or a sling and send the part off like a bullet. It takes quite a shot to put an 1/8" deep dent in solid steel.

  • @PaulSteMarie
    @PaulSteMarie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:45 "Any time you're using hand tools on a part in the spindle, remove tooling from your tool post so any movement of your elbow or wrist does not involve a cut".
    /me looks at 4" cut on wrist and gouged knuckle and nods ruefully.
    "Parting off through a threaded hole"
    Oh man, that was scary. Parted off the base of a machinist's jack, about 1¼", threaded 1"-12. Part took off like @Taofledermaus shot it out of a 12ga. After that I started using a half inch catch stick chucked into the tail stock. My soft and tender bits were nowhere nearby!

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have seen many peripheral injuries on a lathe from loaded tools. I've also seen that whip and launch scenario you described. they can really pick up some velocity before they let go. It happens very fast.

  • @TheHunter2506
    @TheHunter2506 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    bought a 5C spin indexer about three years ago....just found out what is was and what it does!! Thanks Joe

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you watch the video where I made a diamond on a spin indexer?

    • @TheHunter2506
      @TheHunter2506 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221 No missed that one as I did not understand what it was ....Dumb or what!!!

  • @RagsdaleCreek
    @RagsdaleCreek 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have dropped that part and never found it. Awesome video Joe. Never knew the tap guide had a cone on other end will have to check mine when my health's let's me back in shop.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is probably the best kept secret in the shop.

    • @ronwilken5219
      @ronwilken5219 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221 second. First is where all the little bits you drop disappear to. Like the odd sock in the laundry ☺️🤣

  • @CMAenergy
    @CMAenergy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a thought
    When parting off small parts like you have done
    Have you got a magnet with a piece of steel wire
    And place the wire in the hole and set the other end to the magnet which is attached to a piece of metal that is not going to move, like the head stock ,
    And your hands fingers have nothing attached to anything moving

  • @roadshowautosports
    @roadshowautosports 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two questions I have, since I’m geared to start with watches:
    - I don’t know how small machinist drills go but watchmaking have small as tenths of mm, and I use some small drills that I’ve been told are end mill bits and not drills, they have a 3.2 mm shank. Are those really bits? They are as skinny as needles and will go into your finger like one! Don’t ask…
    - when I first started, the machinist told me to use the center bit, then grab the first drill by the minimum possible on the Chuck, this way it would follow the center hole but, watching your videos, I understand that we must seek for rigidity as far as using stubby drill bits, I’m confused?
    Thank you for such marvelous content you share! Wish I could be your apprentice and have my own videos series “how to teach a 55 years old to be a machinist!”

  • @maciekm7953
    @maciekm7953 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pure gold 👍 Thank you Joe

  • @mrayco
    @mrayco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great always joe thumps up every video 👍

  • @ronringel9132
    @ronringel9132 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Job well done. Thanks for sharing.

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Make extras if you drop it it could end up anywhere. I saw a video on a the best Japanese lathe operator drill a hole through in a mechanical pencil lead on a lathe. Thanks for sharing

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      saw that too. He must have had great feel for that machine.

  • @bpark10001
    @bpark10001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Comment about 5C collet stops: I have never found them good for doing anything other then cutting off stock to the nearest inch! The shallow taper magnifies any diameter variation of the stock into longitudinal position. I s'pose if you indicated off the face of the collet you would get more repeatable results. This would require turning a face at its outer edge to indicate from.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or you could hit nominal and not worry. Just sayin.

  • @bterzini1
    @bterzini1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been working out a process for making even smaller 0-80 nuts in silver and gold without a flange for use in jewelry. Without a flange I can use a draw plate to form the hex rather than mill. I don’t want to have to chase down gold chips any more than I have to.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to make watch crowns for some of the worlds most exclusive brands. The entire crown, dome, stem, teeth, logo, were all done in one operation in a die. Boom...done. We started with a BB size gold blank. The only thing machined was the stem thread and maybe a dust seal cut under the head. very little waste, but accounting for it was a super big pain in the a#*

    • @bterzini1
      @bterzini1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Pieczynski Yeah, the required accountability for working with precious metals in volume is its own workflow.

  • @julianlockyear8824
    @julianlockyear8824 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice work and thank you for sharing your skills.

  • @bwyseymail
    @bwyseymail 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh, you are making a little nut. At first glance I thought you were making a crown for the King of Wolf Spiders.

  • @jamessherrill3454
    @jamessherrill3454 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is an awsome video, thanks for sharing.

  • @michaellinahan7740
    @michaellinahan7740 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Joe, when drilling it looked like the drill bit had to climb to find the center. Could the tail stock be misaligned or was it an optical illusion? I second the comment from Bruce, that reverse feed trick is very important when replacing self taping screws in plastic.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its an old chuck and the jaws probably did that. the camera makes it look worse that it does just looking at it. I'll have to investigate it.

  • @tced2858
    @tced2858 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol....great video...I made a tiny screw in the same fashion for a old double barrel shotgun , I used a die to thread.

  • @smacknives754
    @smacknives754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would an angled parting insert/blade help solve the ugly "dag" on the end of the part, Joe?, or am I just looking for an excuse to buy more stuff;).
    As always, thanks for the tips, Joe,
    Scott.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On a non threaded part, that works well. The helix of a thread makes a clean cut almost impossible.

    • @smacknives754
      @smacknives754 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221 Thanks, Joe

  • @woodenhead8887
    @woodenhead8887 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was entertaining Joe. The crazy thing is the effort to make a little nut like this isn’t much different than making a bigger nut (within reason). Yet folks asking how much $$ to make some little nuts sometimes have a hard time understanding that lol.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is very true. The first piece is always the most expensive.

  • @chuckphilpot7756
    @chuckphilpot7756 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:31 Is that a wiper tpmt insert you are using or is it just built up on the corners?
    Always used to love manually cutting brass. That squealing gets delightfully louder the larger the chipload. 360 brass cuts like butter.

  • @bpark10001
    @bpark10001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your floating drill looked like it had excessive side-play. it wandered around before "finding" the center. It was jumping up on each penetration. Regarding the "catcher", why not chuck straight wire in your tailstock chuck? You can also use undersize drill bit as catcher. Clippings from paperclips are handy for this for such small parts. You can retract the tailstock after the spindle is stopped.
    Regarding the tap, use gun taps! They can be threaded straight in without stopping. Just be sure to have enough hole behind.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its a very old drill chuck. The movement seen on camera, was due to the worn jaws.

  • @FredMiller
    @FredMiller 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it. I sometimes put a longitudinal angle on the vertical face of the parting tool so the part parts with no excess material on the back.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That works well with non-threaded holes. I haven't had much luck with the threaded ones.

  • @barrygerbracht5077
    @barrygerbracht5077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see you have an interesting style of insert tool holder. I'm not sure how much experience you have with various insert styles and ot holders (lathe and or mill) but I would appreciate any insight you may have. I will be getting my lathe and mill later this year and tooling decisions are both daunting and expensive.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like my TPG turning tool because it uses all 3 corners of the insert. More bang for the buck. Many 80 degree diamond shaped inserts used to profile only allow for the use of 4 of the 8 corners. They are great inserts, but unless you have the fore site to buy a milling cutter that utilizes the remaining 4 corners, you are throwing 50% of your money away. Thats something to consider. So look for a pair of cutters that use the same insert and compliment each other across both machines.

  • @MichaelLloyd
    @MichaelLloyd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The small scale of that part was amazing

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did a smaller one afterwards, but it was too small to film with my camera. Thanks for watching.

    • @MichaelLloyd
      @MichaelLloyd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221 I only have one of those Chinese mini-lathes (for now) but your work inspired me to try to make some small parts for a 1940's radio battery operated radio (think 90V battery). It's the first real part that had any use that I've tried to make and the first in over a year since I bought the lathe. The dial cord pulleys were made of wood back then and they were "expanded with water" then shrunk to the spindle. There were two pulleys and a spindle. The spindle had 6-32 threads (0.120 long with a .050 relief cut between the threads and the hex), a 1/4" hex flat (.050 deep, I don't have a mill so I started with hex stock), and a .090 diameter spindle (.470 long). The two pulleys were 0.520 diameter, 0.24 at the hub, 0.200 wide, groove width was 0.040, and the hole for the spindle was 0.080. I started with 0.750 stock (because that's all I had). All stock was held in a collet chuck.
      I had to watch a couple of your videos more than once, improvise some tool bits, and "endeavor to persevere" (Outlaw Josey Wales reference). The pulleys came out right the very first time. I must've measured them a dozen times but they were good so I accepted that I could actually do something right on a lathe and moved on to the spindle. I'd like to say the spindle shaft did too but it took 3 times before I was satisfied. The spindle diameter was a tad too small on the first to.
      If you see a package come in from me (YT name is real) it's just a little something that I think you can use sent in appreciation of what you do for us. With your help another antique radio will live to sing again. It's boxed up (and small) but getting to the PO before it closes has been a challenge lately. I addressed it to your business btw

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichaelLloyd Thank you. I'll keep my eyes open for it to arrive.

  • @lohikarhu734
    @lohikarhu734 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice... as always, good tips, sequence #looks# self-evident, when YOU do it ;-)

  • @MagnetOnlyMotors
    @MagnetOnlyMotors ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Joe, was your career mostly focused on these itty bitty parts making? You seem to enjoy it and obviously you’re quite comfy doing it .

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did my apprenticeship in precision miniature components. I cut my teeth making the internal parts for electronic watches back in the 70's. But my business was born of Surgical instruments and scuba camera platforms.

    • @MagnetOnlyMotors
      @MagnetOnlyMotors ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221 Ahh, no wonder you do such fine work with finesse and dexterity . 😊

  • @danielmorrison7579
    @danielmorrison7579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To prevent the damage from when you part off the part, what if you thread in a screw past the point of the part-off, and cut thru it as well.
    It would have been nice for you to also have rounded off the hex as well.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Think about that. The hex nut would initially trap the screw, but when the parting tool broke through the nut ID, it would hit a now unrestrained threaded shaft. The initial contact would most likely stop the screw from rotating. At which time it would want to rapidly screw into the arbor or down the remaining threaded hole. It is possible to rig it up the way you suggest, but plan ahead or get ready for a mouse trap surprise.

    • @danielmorrison7579
      @danielmorrison7579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221 Yes, you are correct. Perhaps brass with some loctite near the end that was going to get removed, or at the point of cut.
      It was all just a thought. Perhaps in critical situations? I love the work that you are doing. Thanks for the videos.

  • @Amaysing79
    @Amaysing79 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Love your videos

  • @Ghostwalker71
    @Ghostwalker71 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you put a threaded scrap rod into the threaded piece when you part it off you get a clean part without worrying with the burr and it also works well to catch the piece when it comes free

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As soon as the parting tool hits the threaded rod and stalls it, the rod will try to thread into the hole and blow the tool. It must securely bottom out before that has any chance of working.

    • @Ghostwalker71
      @Ghostwalker71 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joepie221 Sorry for not being more detailed in my post, I did forget to specify that you would only thread the rod just far enough that it would be tight in the threads and reach just past the point of parting to prevent what you pointed out. I also angle my parting tools leading edge so that they cut next to the piece being parted first to reduce the tendency of leaving burrs on the parted piece. This allows the piece of threaded rod left in the lathe piece to move away from the tool if it does rotate. I have never needed to bottom out the threaded rod in the hole and this would often not be possible when making multiple hinge parts out of a single threaded tube. Another thing to note is that the piece of threaded rod that is left in the material still in the lathe can be easily extracted with a opposite direction drill or similar tool. I would also like to add that I only suggest this method be used in soft metals such as gold, silver, copper and brass. Again, sorry for not being more clear.

  • @outsidescrewball
    @outsidescrewball 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great tips

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Chuck.

  • @noelmason2305
    @noelmason2305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great vid brother top skills 👍🏼

  • @paulinmt2185
    @paulinmt2185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An enjoyable 25 minutes!

  • @davidkarath6549
    @davidkarath6549 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome as usual...😊

  • @christurley391
    @christurley391 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I suspect Joe's floor is clean enough that that little part would stand out. Lol.
    The little burr on the back of the brass nut could have been sheared off with a sharp box knife blade then chanfered.
    Thanks for the video Joe.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I took it off with a pair of flush cut wire snips and hit it on some 400 emery. Slight chamfer on the hole by hand, re-ran the tap and done! OH, and you are correct. The floor is very clean. Thanks for the assumption.

  • @vincentmazza9221
    @vincentmazza9221 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I definitely look forward to seeing the single point threading of an .080

  • @edwardnotebaart5268
    @edwardnotebaart5268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos! Your tap following guide, did you make it or buy it? Can't find one with a hollow and a pointed end! Can you tell me where to get one like yours?

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thats a NIROL brand. I bought it.

  • @kirklindstedt2018
    @kirklindstedt2018 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you make that work stop for the collett? If so, it might be a quick show to us to see how it was made.

    • @kirklindstedt2018
      @kirklindstedt2018 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe, I see you answered this in another post. Can you show how you made the stop?

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That may be a great topic for a video.

  • @deangiacopassi8757
    @deangiacopassi8757 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good tips for my next project. Thanks.

  • @bfpenner
    @bfpenner 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 5:35 in this video I noticed the center drill jump up to center as it approached the apart. What caused that?

  • @rtkville
    @rtkville 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good and informative thank you!

  • @alangriff1
    @alangriff1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it more desirable to use a suitable sized collett for turning small parts than the 3 Jaw chuck? Thanks J P

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely.

    • @fischermann5279
      @fischermann5279 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends how accurate ur 3 jaw is and if its adjustable. I have a 3 jaw on my myford I would put against any import 5с collet.

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lucky me! My shop boss years ago decreed nothing smaller than 1/4-20 so I am safe from the challenges of these almost invisible sized parts. Still fun to watch somebody else do it though! lol

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like the shop boss snapped off a few taps in his days. Lucky you.

  • @Wilett614
    @Wilett614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL SEQUENCE is EVERYTHING when Machining ANY Part !! especially Complicated ones

  • @krazziee2000
    @krazziee2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the video. great lesson,,,

  • @hodgepodgeenginerd1258
    @hodgepodgeenginerd1258 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda surprised you haven’t made a micro drilling attachment similar to the one ox tools made.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have, but mine isn't cam and lever driven. Check my video library.

  • @oldman6495
    @oldman6495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I couldn't find part 2 of this So I take it single pointing the mating part didn't go so well?

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I found out my lathe can't single point 80 tpi. It only allows for 72 as the finest.

    • @oldman6495
      @oldman6495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joepie221 Thats too bad, would liked to have seen it. I am sure you would have made it look easy. Stay safe

  • @michaeltrumble3858
    @michaeltrumble3858 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joe how did you measure the depth of the drilled hole when using the sliding drill chuck ?

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn't. I over drilled it based on the part and tap profile.